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Stargate: The (Re)watch Thread - SG-1 Season Three
SimBen
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Hi guys, recently I was hanging out in that Star Trek thread and the discussion veered towards Stargate at one point. This led me to looking up Gateworld for the first time in years and realizing they're organizing a rewatch of the whole franchise considering MGM recently took Stargate out in the backyard and put a slug in its brains. And it's starting like right now. I'm gonna watch along, so I'm making this thread so I don't have to go hang out on Gateworld's creepy forums to discuss it (seriously, that place is full of nothing but shippers and fanfiction writers). I suggest you join me so I'm not in here talking to myself!
Here's Gateworld's Rewatch central and schedule and stuff:
http://www.gateworld.net/news/stargate-rewatch/
Basically we're doing a season a month (which means we'll be done in December 2012). Also the original movie was supposed to be last week. I watched it. We can talk about it.
If you're like me, you're gonna watch an episode every weekday, starting tomorrow (August 1st). The entire franchise is on Netflix, or you could watch the DVDs if you have them. I do. Seriously, the first season of SG-1 was literally the first DVD I ever bought.
Since this is specifically a let's-watch-something type of thread with a schedule, we should put shit that happens after the point the rewatch is at between spoiler tags, because people who haven't watched it before shouldn't be spoiled. I hope some of those people show up and start watching. Half the fun in these things is seeing their reactions.
Also, new people: the series gets better than the movie is. I mean the movie isn't terrible, it's just average. It gets better on rewatches too, I found. Knowing all the backstory going in, it just seems a lot more meaningful to see how it all began. Also, it's not Kurt Russell and James Spader in the series, if you were wondering. O'Neill becomes an awesome character once he's recast.
So yeah. Do this shit!
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They should have ended it when they beat the Goa'uld
SGU is the one that sort of starts making you go eeehhhh.
SGU was much worse than Atlantis.
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Questions like, how come an incoming wormhole often seems to encode each chevron at the same speed as someone dialing with a DHD? I mean, for that to happen, wouldn't the stargate being dialed out from already know which full address you are inputting as you are doing it?
Why does the gate always seem to disengage as soon as they've gone through it, why does every gate and DHD look the same even though the constellations would look completely different from their respective points of view, why does every gate seem to have Earth's point of origin on it despite it being established that each planet has its own, why doesn't the kawoosh disintegrate the iris, why do people slam into the iris if the iris blocks the wormhole from being engaged entirely (instead of the gates just shutting off), how does the gate know what a complete object is and therefore when to put stuff in the buffer and when to transmit (okay, so that much can be attributed to alien technology being beyond our comprehension), why is it possible to stick your head into the gate and then just stand there and walk forward when you feel like it even though by then your head is disintegrated and stored in the buffer as data...
Am I missing anything?
Atlantis should have been kept as a movie, as it was originally planned to be. I think it would have worked better that way.
The Ori plot wasn't...bad. I actually liked it, I just wish they'd had another season or two to work through it, and then ended it, or just end it before the Ori plot, and have "SGU" be about multiple factions (Tau'ri, Tokra, Jaffa, Lucians, Asgard, Tollan, etc) dealing with the impending Ori threat.
Why does the gate always seem to disengage as soon as they've gone through it, why does every gate and DHD look the same even though the constellations would look completely different from their respective points of view, why does every gate seem to have Earth's point of origin on it despite it being established that each planet has its own, why doesn't the kawoosh disintegrate the iris, why do people slam into the iris if the iris blocks the wormhole from being engaged entirely (instead of the gates just shutting off), how does the gate know what a complete object is and therefore when to put stuff in the buffer and when to transmit (okay, so that much can be attributed to alien technology being beyond our comprehension), why is it possible to stick your head into the gate and then just stand there and walk forward when you feel like it even though by then your head is disintegrated and stored in the buffer as data...
Am I missing anything?[/quote]
They have explained a few of these things in the show.
Every gate and DHD looks the same (talking about the milky way galaxy here) because the Ancients who built them used Earth as their starting point. Of course, I know this explanation doesn't really take into account that the constellations would have changed somewhat since the time the gates were built.
The woosh doesn't disintegrate the irisi, as the iris is set very close to the event horizon of the wormhole, preventing the woosh from being able to form.
The Iris does not block the wormhole from being engaged entirely. Objects trying to materialize are instead disintegrated as they cannot reform.
And Teal'c dual wielding staff weapons
I was watching the Conan trailer going "Hey, this dude looks a lot like Ronan". Then I went "Oh, hey, I'm dumb." He's on Game of Thrones, too? Good for him.
I was always intrigued by the non-humanoid aliens in Stargate. Off the top of my head, there's
GIIIANT ALIEEENS
(okay they were humanoid too)
Don't forget
Also those bugs from Bane and those beasts in the movie.
And the Goa'uld, technically.
And the Replicators. At least for a while.
I think that's what they originally planned/expected to end on, but then they got a few more seasons...
SG-1 ended four times.
At the end of season 5, when they moved from Showtime to Sci-fi. They were prepared for that to be the end of the show.
At the end of season 7, when they were anticipating an Atlantis movie
At the end of season 8, when RDA officially left the show
and then finally after season 10.
When Amazon does their Black Friday sale this year or something I may just pick up the complete set of SG1 and start working on it from the beginning.
And even then, in the very first episode they set up a running story arc that doesn't get fully resolved until several seasons later.
But at this point I've seen enough episodes it becomes easier to connect the dots.
Pretty sure they had just one other set on the side to stand in for the bridge of every kind of ship, too.
Explains why they always seemed to be rounding a corner.
Love
Stargate.
All of them
I hate the last couple seasons of SG-1. Some of Atlantis was pretty okay. Stargate universe was not as bad as it could have been.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Oh yeah, now that you mention it, I don't think anyone mentions a seventh symbol before Daniel does.
The dialing back thing is handwaved by Ferretti saying if they dial wrong they could just rematerialize in the middle of space. Which of course we now know isn't how Stargates work, but back in the time of the movie that was as good a guess as any, so it was good enough for them not to take any chances on.
Absolutely could not stand Universe, right from the first episode.
It's a really slow creep up to get you to care about the characters, whereas both SG-1 and Atlantis had immediately lovable characters. And SGU has nothing except its characters.
Yes, that is the joke.
"Now it takes us through the uuuuuniverse!"
I really should watch this sometime to see how bad it is.