Infraction System

The Hay Guys Cat

This is a test. Don't bother replying to this post.

Talonrazor

I really like this system, it's brilliant. This should really cut down on the amount of asshattery.

PA is becoming even more awesomer then it was.

Sterica

Are the infractions removed automatically or does have to be done manually?

Tube

They're removed automatically after one month for a minor, and two for a major. This is all in the announcement.

Janin

Are you guys still going to post in the "Who got banned and why" threads? I get a somewhat perverse laugh out of reading those.

Thanatos

jmillikin wrote: »

Are you guys still going to post in the "Who got banned and why" threads? I get a somewhat perverse laugh out of reading those.

Infraction reasons will be posted in the infractions thread, so you can see the auto-bans there.

Manual bans will still be posted in the old ban threads.

Tube

By the way, the jail timer is now 150 seconds, same as on the old board.

japan

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

jothki wrote: »

What exactly would be considered to be breaking H-Scroll? I'm using a widescreen laptop and I rarely see anything break it, but I'm assuming that a lot of people have much lower resolutions.

Anything that breaks the scroll at 1024 counts. It's barely an issue now, because h scroll breaks only effect one post, but it can still be obnoxious.

A better example would be posting an enormous (in file size) image or gif.

Something I keep wondering, is it just Opera that has a "fit to width" view option? I haven't used IE extensively in ages (and when I do it's on a widescreen at work) and I only use Firefox very occasionally.

I just thought people were being melodramatic about the h-scroll thing because, you know, the button's right there.

Ramius

IE7 has a zoom feature built in, but if they have a fit-to-width option, it is neither under the Zoom menu, nor the Page menu, nor the Tools menu.

Firefox does not have a fit-to-width feature built in, but I would bet there is an extension available that does it.

Echo

punBB does auto-fit with some CSS.

Ramius

FYI, the jail system has been upgraded to no longer display jailed forumers' images inline. All of a jailed users images should appear as links so long as they are in jail. As soon as they get out of jail, the links will revert back to inline images.

FunkyWaltDogg

Wow, that's totally sweet. Thanks Ramius!

Tube

Question, if the user is later banned, and thus moved from the jailed to the banned subgroup, will the images be revealed.

Because there might be some arcane way that could be abused.

The Muffin Man

Hmm. I guess this is the right place to ask.

Is it possible to show a users Infractions in the search tab? Like, say I look up JohnnyAsshole, and he has 2 yellow cards on his posts. Would it be possible to have the yellow card icon on the search tab next to the post, so we could see WHERE he got infracted? This would help the curious when/if the Infraction Log thread is taken down, as well as a user being able to reread his post and maybe more readily appeal(although as I understand it, a mod PMs you when you get an infraction with the link, so this is a non-issue).

Also, would it be possible to implement a search of infracted posts? I.e "JohnnyAsshole: Search all posts by JohnnyAsshole, Search all topics by JohnnyAsshole, Search all Infraction posts by JohnnyAsshole"?

Just a suggestion/question.

And that image thing is a great addition, Ramius.

Thanatos

The Muffin Man wrote: »

Hmm. I guess this is the right place to ask.

Is it possible to show a users Infractions in the search tab? Like, say I look up JohnnyAsshole, and he has 2 yellow cards on his posts. Would it be possible to have the yellow card icon on the search tab next to the post, so we could see WHERE he got infracted? This would help the curious when/if the Infraction Log thread is taken down, as well as a user being able to reread his post and maybe more readily appeal(although as I understand it, a mod PMs you when you get an infraction with the link, so this is a non-issue).

Also, would it be possible to implement a search of infracted posts? I.e "JohnnyAsshole: Search all posts by JohnnyAsshole, Search all topics by JohnnyAsshole, Search all Infraction posts by JohnnyAsshole"?

Just a suggestion/question.

And that image thing is a great addition, Ramius.

When you are infracted, the system automatically PMs you both the text of the post that got you infracted, and a link to that post.

Ramius

I think you are misunderstanding his question, Than.

t MuffinMan: mods and admins can see the infractions history when viewing a user's profile page. forumers can also see their own infraction history when looking at their profile page.

It would be trivial for me to make that part of the profile visible to everyone, and I don't see the harm in it since the infractions themselves are publicly advertised. What do you think, Tube?

Tube

I thought they already were to be honest. Go ahead.

Thanatos

Ramius wrote: »

I think you are misunderstanding his question, Than.

t MuffinMan: mods and admins can see the infractions history when viewing a user's profile page. forumers can also see their own infraction history when looking at their profile page.

It would be trivial for me to make that part of the profile visible to everyone, and I don't see the harm in it since the infractions themselves are publicly advertised. What do you think, Tube?

I was merely clarifying the one point regarding the PMs, not commenting on the rest of it.

Though, I think the profile thing is a good idea.

Mr_Rose

I just thought of something though; would this not be almost exactly like showing people the number of posts people have made all over again?
As in "You were infracted for such-and-such three years ago so your opinion doesn't count, despite the infraction being for something completely unrelated..."
Instead of "You only have three posts here so your opinion doesn't count despite the fact that you have a relevant PHD..."

Thanatos

Mr_Rose wrote: »

I just thought of something though; would this not be almost exactly like showing people the number of posts people have made all over again?
As in "You were infracted for such-and-such three years ago so your opinion doesn't count, despite the infraction being for something completely unrelated..."
Instead of "You only have three posts here so your opinion doesn't count despite the fact that you have a relevant PHD..."

We have postcounts in profiles, too.

Mr_Rose

Huh. So we do.
Never mind then, I'll be over there...

The Muffin Man

Thanatos wrote: »

The Muffin Man wrote: »

Hmm. I guess this is the right place to ask.

Is it possible to show a users Infractions in the search tab? Like, say I look up JohnnyAsshole, and he has 2 yellow cards on his posts. Would it be possible to have the yellow card icon on the search tab next to the post, so we could see WHERE he got infracted? This would help the curious when/if the Infraction Log thread is taken down, as well as a user being able to reread his post and maybe more readily appeal(although as I understand it, a mod PMs you when you get an infraction with the link, so this is a non-issue).

Also, would it be possible to implement a search of infracted posts? I.e "JohnnyAsshole: Search all posts by JohnnyAsshole, Search all topics by JohnnyAsshole, Search all Infraction posts by JohnnyAsshole"?

Just a suggestion/question.

And that image thing is a great addition, Ramius.

When you are infracted, the system automatically PMs you both the text of the post that got you infracted, and a link to that post.

Ahh okay. Never been infracted, hope never to be, so I was a bit hazy on if the mod did it personally or if it was automated.

I'm assuming it asks you to input something like when we report it, and that's how it gets "This shit doesn't fly in H&A." tagged on?


t Ramius; Thanks! Glad it's not too much work amongst the undoubtedly full workload you've got.

Huh. So we do.
Never mind then, I'll be over there...

Heh, plus the post count thing ('you have so many posts, so shut up') is one of those "zero tolerance" things the mods tend to be strict about.

Thanatos

The Muffin Man wrote: »

Thanatos wrote: »

The Muffin Man wrote: »

Hmm. I guess this is the right place to ask.

Is it possible to show a users Infractions in the search tab? Like, say I look up JohnnyAsshole, and he has 2 yellow cards on his posts. Would it be possible to have the yellow card icon on the search tab next to the post, so we could see WHERE he got infracted? This would help the curious when/if the Infraction Log thread is taken down, as well as a user being able to reread his post and maybe more readily appeal(although as I understand it, a mod PMs you when you get an infraction with the link, so this is a non-issue).

Also, would it be possible to implement a search of infracted posts? I.e "JohnnyAsshole: Search all posts by JohnnyAsshole, Search all topics by JohnnyAsshole, Search all Infraction posts by JohnnyAsshole"?

Just a suggestion/question.

And that image thing is a great addition, Ramius.

When you are infracted, the system automatically PMs you both the text of the post that got you infracted, and a link to that post.

Ahh okay. Never been infracted, hope never to be, so I was a bit hazy on if the mod did it personally or if it was automated.

I'm assuming it asks you to input something like when we report it, and that's how it gets "This shit doesn't fly in H&A." tagged on?

Yeah. There's also an "administrative note" we can tack on, that doesn't get sent to the user, but does get recorded where mods can see it.

Most of those posts in the infraction thread are the PMs people get, verbatim, minus the "administrative note."

Javen

Quick question about infractions:

When a user receives an infraction, are all previous infractions the user has accumulated up to this point "refreshed?" That is to say, if I have a week left on a minor infraction, and recieve another minor infraction, bringing me to "jailed" status, would I only be jailed for just the one week, or would the previous minor infraction be reset, making me jailed for the full month?

Tube

previous infraction reset

Thanatos

Cardboard Tube wrote: »

previous infraction reset

Not only that, but the time before the newest infraction expires is expanded by a month. So, if you have a minor infraction set to expire in one day, and you get hit with another minor infraction, you're jailed for a month, and it's another month before the new infraction expires, and you get a clean record.

Cyclone

Thanatos wrote: »

The Muffin Man wrote: »

Thanatos wrote: »

The Muffin Man wrote: »

Hmm. I guess this is the right place to ask.

Is it possible to show a users Infractions in the search tab? Like, say I look up JohnnyAsshole, and he has 2 yellow cards on his posts. Would it be possible to have the yellow card icon on the search tab next to the post, so we could see WHERE he got infracted? This would help the curious when/if the Infraction Log thread is taken down, as well as a user being able to reread his post and maybe more readily appeal(although as I understand it, a mod PMs you when you get an infraction with the link, so this is a non-issue).

Also, would it be possible to implement a search of infracted posts? I.e "JohnnyAsshole: Search all posts by JohnnyAsshole, Search all topics by JohnnyAsshole, Search all Infraction posts by JohnnyAsshole"?

Just a suggestion/question.

And that image thing is a great addition, Ramius.

When you are infracted, the system automatically PMs you both the text of the post that got you infracted, and a link to that post.

Ahh okay. Never been infracted, hope never to be, so I was a bit hazy on if the mod did it personally or if it was automated.

I'm assuming it asks you to input something like when we report it, and that's how it gets "This shit doesn't fly in H&A." tagged on?

Yeah. There's also an "administrative note" we can tack on, that doesn't get sent to the user, but does get recorded where mods can see it.

Most of those posts in the infraction thread are the PMs people get, verbatim, minus the "administrative note."

So wait, the administrative note isn't sent to the user, but it is posted in the infractions thread where everyone can see it, ostensibly including the user? Or is the administrative note published in the thread truncated? Something isn't making sense.

Thanatos

Kreutz wrote: »

Thanatos wrote: »

Most of those posts in the infraction thread are the PMs people get, verbatim, minus the "administrative note."

So wait, the administrative note isn't sent to the user, but it is posted in the infractions thread where everyone can see it, ostensibly including the user? Or is the administrative note published in the thread truncated? Something isn't making sense.

The administrative note is truncated, as I mentioned in the above quote. The one that you replied to, and quoted in your post.

Cyclone

Thanatos wrote: »

Kreutz wrote: »

Thanatos wrote: »

Most of those posts in the infraction thread are the PMs people get, verbatim, minus the "administrative note."

So wait, the administrative note isn't sent to the user, but it is posted in the infractions thread where everyone can see it, ostensibly including the user? Or is the administrative note published in the thread truncated? Something isn't making sense.

The administrative note is truncated, as I mentioned in the above quote. The one that you replied to, and quoted in your post.

:x I read 'posts in the thread' as 'PMs to the user'. I'm retarded.

Tube

This is exactly what an infraction auto thread looks like

Post: Infraction System
User: Thanatos
Infraction: Minor Offence
Points: 2

Administrative Note:

fattest, ugliest mod

Message to User:

Please be less fat and ugly

Original Post:

Kreutz wrote: »

Thanatos wrote: »

Most of those posts in the infraction thread are the PMs people get, verbatim, minus the "administrative note."

So wait, the administrative note isn't sent to the user, but it is posted in the infractions thread where everyone can see it, ostensibly including the user? Or is the administrative note published in the thread truncated? Something isn't making sense.

The administrative note is truncated, as I mentioned in the above quote. The one that you replied to, and quoted in your post.

Thanatos

Yeah, there's an invisible (to users) infraction subforum. Every time we issue an infraction or warning, it creates a thread. The subject line is something like:

Infraction for Thanatos: Minor Offence -- Tube's Circus Of Bug Reports and User Issues

That's the subject for the above infraction.

Tube

does anyone need to see it again? I'll let you see it again

Tube

Post: Infraction System
User: Thanatos
Infraction: Serious offence
Points: 3

Administrative Note:

continuing to be fat and ugly after repeated warnings

Message to User:

We mean it when we tell you to do things.

Original Post:

Yeah, there's an invisible (to users) infraction subforum. Every time we issue an infraction or warning, it creates a thread. The subject line is something like:

Infraction for Thanatos: Minor Offence -- Tube's Circus Of Bug Reports and User Issues

That's the subject for the above infraction.

Thanatos

That's interesting.

Apparently, you can't jail mods via infraction. I wonder if you can ban them via infraction?

Tube will inevitably try it, I'm sure.

Tube

Post: Infraction System
User: Thanatos
Infraction: Spamming
Points: 8

Administrative Note:

Spamming forum with fat, ugly posts

Message to User:

I'm serious, last warning.

Original Post:

That's interesting.

Apparently, you can't jail mods via infraction. I wonder if you can ban them via infraction?

Tube will inevitably try it, I'm sure.

Thanatos

Yes, you can, in fact, ban mods via infraction.

Or, at least, admins can.

Tube

:D:D

SithDrummer

hahaha

wunderbar

haha. that just made my day.

jothki

Looking at the new forum, is it then possible to grant modship to someone who is jailed without removing the jailed status?