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Preacher

I've had a 1000 dollar bounty for a half a second until I decapitated the other witness. Something about murdering a whole family while wearing daedra armor that just says "yes yes this is right."

Preacher

Wren wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

How do i (grey-mane/battle-born spoilers)

Free the brother from Northwatch keep without just murdering everybody?
I only got two dialogue options: What is this? And will you purty please release the brother?
Both were responded to with sass, so I frenzied the doorman and watched him murder his friends.
I feel there was another way.

you mean the same thalmor who are trying to torture out a fake confession on an illegally detained skyrim native? better question would be whats the best method for killing all of them

but I think theres a backdoor that leads straight to the torture chambers, its a master level lock though

It is a backdoor, but there are plenty of guards patrolling along it.

Xagar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieYXj5cDKE

mynameisguido

override367 wrote:

I murdered someone solely because a Daedra whispered that I should

Does that make me a bad person? I mean, it's not like the guy did anything to make me not want to bludgeon him to death

Well, (The House of Horrors spoilers)

The daedra locks you into that room with that guy and he'll eventually try to kill you first. So maybe it makes you a bad person but the net result is the same no matter what. I'm probably going to help his rival out just because he made me do that

jackal

A city guard hired a group of thugs to rough me up because I took 11 gold that wasn't in red. How's that for law and order.

Axen

Preacher wrote:

Axen wrote:

I'd have a little more respect for Elisif if she wasn't hitting on me all the time.

Your husband's body is barely cold you succubus!

edit- actually I think her husband has been dead for a year or so, but still!

Look he's dead and she hasn't had nothin' twixt her nethers weren't run on soul gems for over a year brosef. Besides think of the sexual adventurism with the Thu'm.

Fix'd? I think so. :P

Tulabelle

Jacobkosh wrote:

chocobolicious wrote:

dinodynamo wrote:

Minor complaint...I know it's a fantasy universe, populated with dragons, giants, and a plethora of fictional beings. That aside, the wildlife for the most part looks like creatures similar to the world that you and I are familiar with...even the Deer and Elk. Wait a minute...these creatures labeled as "deer" look and sound suspiciously like our universe's Elk. And the creatures labeled as "elk" look suspiciously like our universe's Moose.

Doesn't detract from the game in anyway, but it made me raise an eyebrow when I noticed it.

I have to admit, this bothered the hell out of me too.

Its like if they renamed 'Horse' to goat and you had mountain horses instead of mountain goats.
Cats called dogs and dogs called cats.

Generally it doesn't detract, but it made me chuckle and maybe wonder if the people who made this haven't seen actual wildlife before.

An elk is a type of deer, and moose are called elks in Europe.

An elk is a type of deer like a lion is a type of cheetah.

Preacher

His rival's cult is actually worse for what they want you to do.

mynameisguido

Preacher wrote:

I've had a 1000 dollar bounty for a half a second until I decapitated the other witness. Something about murdering a whole family while wearing daedra armor that just says "yes yes this is right."

There's a house in Markarth that needs this exact treatment. I may just start murdering everyone in this house at the start of every walkthrough.

jackal

Moose and elk are both deer.

anoffday

Ok, so I had to publicly kill someone and I did it and ran away. Now the guards know me, so I went to jail. I picked the lock, killed the guards, and broke out. But now I still have a bounty on my head and I can't go anywhere. How do you end this?

Preacher

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

Alucard6986

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

In other words it's the best city.

TACOnightmare

Preacher wrote:

Wren wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

How do i (grey-mane/battle-born spoilers)

Free the brother from Northwatch keep without just murdering everybody?
I only got two dialogue options: What is this? And will you purty please release the brother?
Both were responded to with sass, so I frenzied the doorman and watched him murder his friends.
I feel there was another way.

you mean the same thalmor who are trying to torture out a fake confession on an illegally detained skyrim native? better question would be whats the best method for killing all of them

but I think theres a backdoor that leads straight to the torture chambers, its a master level lock though

It is a backdoor, but there are plenty of guards patrolling along it.

So i can't sweet talk and bribe my way in?
For shame

Alucard6986

TACOnightmare wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Wren wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

How do i (grey-mane/battle-born spoilers)

Free the brother from Northwatch keep without just murdering everybody?
I only got two dialogue options: What is this? And will you purty please release the brother?
Both were responded to with sass, so I frenzied the doorman and watched him murder his friends.
I feel there was another way.

you mean the same thalmor who are trying to torture out a fake confession on an illegally detained skyrim native? better question would be whats the best method for killing all of them

but I think theres a backdoor that leads straight to the torture chambers, its a master level lock though

It is a backdoor, but there are plenty of guards patrolling along it.

So i can't sweet talk and bribe my way in?
For shame

You also can't use 100 Speech to defeat Alduin.

Couscous

So Markarth...

if I didn't do the quest where you get arrested before I helped the stormcrows take over, am I screwed on that quest?

Xagar

Too much blood for me.

Although I amused myself zombifying the first thing you see when you get there.

mynameisguido

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

Which is why some houses just need purging. I may be playing a "good" character but it's more of a "purge the wicked" kind of good.

Alucard6986

Couscous wrote:

So Markarth...

if I didn't do the quest where you get arrested before I helped the stormcrows take over, am I screwed on that quest?

I did it after the rebellion was over and it functioned the same way as if it it had been before, I'd assume

Bloodsheed

TACOnightmare wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Wren wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

How do i (grey-mane/battle-born spoilers)

Free the brother from Northwatch keep without just murdering everybody?
I only got two dialogue options: What is this? And will you purty please release the brother?
Both were responded to with sass, so I frenzied the doorman and watched him murder his friends.
I feel there was another way.

you mean the same thalmor who are trying to torture out a fake confession on an illegally detained skyrim native? better question would be whats the best method for killing all of them

but I think theres a backdoor that leads straight to the torture chambers, its a master level lock though

It is a backdoor, but there are plenty of guards patrolling along it.

So i can't sweet talk and bribe my way in?
For shame

Could always enchant a sword and name it "Sweet Talk" and a bow named "Bribe".

...

Excuse me, I need to go enchant some things.

TACOnightmare

Alucard6986 wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

In other words it's the best city.

Am I the only one who saw similarities between the Forsworn and the Stormcloaks? I laughed when they tried to get me involved and continued on my way.

Archonex

So i'm not sure if this one of those funny bugs Bethesda left in, or if it's something they missed, but this is hilarious.

Elder Scroll Wiki - Marriage Bugs List wrote:

Some users playing as a male character may experience Vilkas chasing after them in Jorrvaskr trying to marry them, with his weapon drawn, and no actual action done by the player.

Preacher

Alucard6986 wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

In other words it's the best city.

Nah the best city is Solitude.

TACOnightmare

Alucard6986 wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Wren wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

How do i (grey-mane/battle-born spoilers)

Free the brother from Northwatch keep without just murdering everybody?
I only got two dialogue options: What is this? And will you purty please release the brother?
Both were responded to with sass, so I frenzied the doorman and watched him murder his friends.
I feel there was another way.

you mean the same thalmor who are trying to torture out a fake confession on an illegally detained skyrim native? better question would be whats the best method for killing all of them

but I think theres a backdoor that leads straight to the torture chambers, its a master level lock though

It is a backdoor, but there are plenty of guards patrolling along it.

So i can't sweet talk and bribe my way in?
For shame

You also can't use 100 Speech to defeat Alduin.

I like to think a Thu'un is speech.

Alucard6986

TACOnightmare wrote:

Alucard6986 wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Wren wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

How do i (grey-mane/battle-born spoilers)

Free the brother from Northwatch keep without just murdering everybody?
I only got two dialogue options: What is this? And will you purty please release the brother?
Both were responded to with sass, so I frenzied the doorman and watched him murder his friends.
I feel there was another way.

you mean the same thalmor who are trying to torture out a fake confession on an illegally detained skyrim native? better question would be whats the best method for killing all of them

but I think theres a backdoor that leads straight to the torture chambers, its a master level lock though

It is a backdoor, but there are plenty of guards patrolling along it.

So i can't sweet talk and bribe my way in?
For shame

You also can't use 100 Speech to defeat Alduin.

I like to think a Thu'un is speech.

touche

anoffday

anoffday wrote:

Ok, so I had to publicly kill someone and I did it and ran away. Now the guards know me, so I went to jail. I picked the lock, killed the guards, and broke out. But now I still have a bounty on my head and I can't go anywhere. How do you end this?

Preacher

Archonex wrote:

So i'm not sure if this one of those funny bugs Bethesda left in, or if it's something they missed, but this is hilarious.

Elder Scroll Wiki - Marriage Bugs List wrote:

Some users playing as a male character may experience Vilkas chasing after them in Jorrvaskr trying to marry them, with his weapon drawn, and no actual action done by the player.

Next up on fox news, deviant sexual sim "Skyrim" is making men gay.

Xagar

You don't. Pay up.

Preacher

anoffday wrote:

anoffday wrote:

Ok, so I had to publicly kill someone and I did it and ran away. Now the guards know me, so I went to jail. I picked the lock, killed the guards, and broke out. But now I still have a bounty on my head and I can't go anywhere. How do you end this?

I think you are boned bro, once your bouty gets above a certain limit you are KOS.

Arthil

TACOnightmare wrote:

Alucard6986 wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

In other words it's the best city.

Am I the only one who saw similarities between the Forsworn and the Stormcloaks? I laughed when they tried to get me involved and continued on my way.

Except not.

Trust me the Forsworns cause is more valid than even the Stormcloaks.

Alucard6986

Stay out of that city/region for a while, come back when you have enough money.

This makes some of the dark brotherhood contracts a pain in the ass if you're not a stealth character/they don't have some obvious place in their schedule where they're in an isolated area.

Renegade Wolf

anoffday wrote:

anoffday wrote:

Ok, so I had to publicly kill someone and I did it and ran away. Now the guards know me, so I went to jail. I picked the lock, killed the guards, and broke out. But now I still have a bounty on my head and I can't go anywhere. How do you end this?

Run up to a guard with your weapon out then sheath it right in front of him.

Then he should arrest you.

Elendil

Someone in the Dark Brotherhood mentioned that the Thieves Guild could rid you of bounties. I haven't explored either questline enough to know what the deal is though.

Preacher

Elendil wrote:

Someone in the Dark Brotherhood mentioned that the Thieves Guild could rid you of bounties. I haven't explored either questline enough to know what the deal is though.

I run that guild and didn't see anything. Though I didn't restore it to its previous honor yet.

Couscous

So do some DB quests automatically give you a bounty?

I always got a bounty for the wedding quest even if I used poison.

Alucard6986

Arthil wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

Alucard6986 wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

In other words it's the best city.

Am I the only one who saw similarities between the Forsworn and the Stormcloaks? I laughed when they tried to get me involved and continued on my way.

Except not.

Trust me the Forsworns cause is more valid than even the Stormcloaks.

What the fuck kind of forsworn propaganda is this? The forsworn are fucking crazy people who live in the woods doing all kinds of crazy human sacrifice, black magic, soul stealing fucked up shit.

The stormcloaks are simply following the old nord way. The high king was weak. The empire is weak. Therefore they must die.

anoffday

Preacher wrote:

anoffday wrote:

anoffday wrote:

Ok, so I had to publicly kill someone and I did it and ran away. Now the guards know me, so I went to jail. I picked the lock, killed the guards, and broke out. But now I still have a bounty on my head and I can't go anywhere. How do you end this?

I think you are boned bro, once your bouty gets above a certain limit you are KOS.

Then the whole escaping from jail thing is kind of bs. I pick the lock, avoid the guards, and get out but it's in a castle with more guards, so I use an invisibility potion to get out the door, which goes away once you open the door, and guess what? More guards outside. wtf? Has anyone successfully escaped?

TACOnightmare

anoffday wrote:

anoffday wrote:

Ok, so I had to publicly kill someone and I did it and ran away. Now the guards know me, so I went to jail. I picked the lock, killed the guards, and broke out. But now I still have a bounty on my head and I can't go anywhere. How do you end this?

I know in oblivion, you could pay the thieves guild to settle your debt to society.

Archonex

Alucard6986 wrote:

Arthil wrote:

TACOnightmare wrote:

Alucard6986 wrote:

Preacher wrote:

Markarth in general is one f'd up city. Just about every quest there is 8 shades of wrong.

In other words it's the best city.

Am I the only one who saw similarities between the Forsworn and the Stormcloaks? I laughed when they tried to get me involved and continued on my way.

Except not.

Trust me the Forsworns cause is more valid than even the Stormcloaks.

What the fuck kind of forsworn propaganda is this? The forsworn are fucking crazy people who live in the woods doing all kinds of crazy human sacrifice, black magic, soul stealing fucked up shit.

The stormcloaks are simply following the old nord way. The high king was weak. The empire is weak. Therefore they must die.

Trust us when we say this. The Forsworn have alot of due cause for some of the darker affiliations they have. Which is basically to say that they buddy up with witches and Hagravens occasionally. Which in the scheme of what they're up against is really small potatoes.

Go do some quests in Markath. You'll get it.


Still pissed I can't join them. If the Stormcloaks get a side-quest series that has minimal effect on the gameworld, they could give the Forsworn the same thing, at the very least.

But nope. Herp-derp barbarian Bretons are the Fallout raiders of the game. What's that? They're actually

the good guys of the Rift, fighting against slavery, an evil police state, and corruption that'd make a real world third world dictator blush with shame against honorless Nords who stole their city and home out from under them?

Well fuck that, still. Sorry players, fuck you. You'll genocide your Conan ripoffs and like it.

Steel Angel

So does anyone know if city guards respawn? I've killed a whole mess of them for insulting me/being dicks/being in Windhelm/having useful black souls/being around when I needed to test something and I've noticed that even after a good amount of in game time, no new guards seem to be in the now empty posts.

I'm pretty sure I have seen some repopulate after quests/scripted events that resulted in guard death though.

And if they do in fact stay dead when killed by the player, I believe we have an alternate solution to anoffday's problem.