Especially at his weight. I think the record is a 300 or so pound guy doing 1075. And that's with a bench press shirt, but I'm sure cap's uniform has those properties as needed.
IRT geebs
he's in the justice league because reporters can't afford skyscrapers, duh. They let him play because he owns the ball. I like to think that's what's going on with the whole "batman always comes out on top" thing.
Like Supes and Darkseid are talking in the clinch like WWE guys
"Dude, don't flatten wayne, he's the meal ticket for this whole scene. Just let him think he's really winning."
"I can dig it. I leave wayne standing, you do the same with luthor?"
despite weighing less than the carnival performer from the 1800s you posted, cap can beat his unsubstantiated records, as well as his real records. IN sets. WIthout really trying. Then he can do it again, to actually recordholders. If nothing else, achieving a peak POSSIBLE athletic level at more than one thing is superpower. You can probably find a guy who can bench as much as cap, a guy who is as gymnastic as cap, and a guy who throws knives or something as well as cap throws his shield...I defy you to find one who does all three.
Notice how many gymnast/powerlifting crossovers there are in the real world? Also, how many people in the real world have survived being frozen for 50 years again?
Super. Powered.
Edit: You do understand that none of those things Louis Cyr did were a straight-up bench press, right? That they were carnival/strongman tricks where you make yourself look stronger then you are? (which in his case was still pretty strong, no doubt)
The comics make a point of it that he's not really superhuman. Whether or not his feats count as superhuman in real life is irrelevant. In the context of the comics they are not, because nobody can ever fucking shut up about how he's not technically superhuman.
Batman does things no real human could possibly do in a million years. Does Batman have superpowers now, too?
no
batman is a huge gary stu. Written badly - ala 'bat shark repellent' groaners from the 60s - he is almost a parody of a gary stu. We let it slide because he is so established and so awesome, but at the end of the day he is inexplicably superheroic. That's one reason I like the Arkham Asylum games - because they play up the idea that one of the main things batman is is a tremendous poker player who has everyone convinced he is even more dangerous than he really is.
but cap is different . . . because he can actually do the things he can do, which no other human can do, because super science was applied to him in an origin story that directly advanced his abilities to a high level, and maintained them there for years
I will say, however, I have no problem with Bruce Wayne on a given day doing anything Tony Stark can do. I mean, if Tony Stark can do it half in the bag, Bruce Wayne should be able to do it sober, right?
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they are, first and foremost, superpowerful self-inserts
Yeah, but the term has evolved long ago to include more than just self-insertion. Not to mention Batman could easily act as a self-insert for an author so
I want to do with you
What spring does with the cherry trees.
they are, first and foremost, superpowerful self-inserts
Yeah, but the term has evolved long ago to include more than just self-insertion. Not to mention Batman could easily act as a self-insert for an author so
even with how those terms have evolved he's using it improperly.
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Viscount Islands[INSERT SoKo HERE]...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered Userregular
they are, first and foremost, superpowerful self-inserts
Yeah, but the term has evolved long ago to include more than just self-insertion. Not to mention Batman could easily act as a self-insert for an author so
even with how those terms have evolved he's using it improperly.
Yeah I kind of stopped reading the post once he said Gary Stu
I want to do with you
What spring does with the cherry trees.
but whatever. A canon stu, if you prefer. He's certainly a piece of wish fulfillment. A really dark one, actually, since when you look at batman, at a fundamental level, what is he? He's a rich jock that beats up nerds. Batman is actually a horrible person. He has no personal life, he's an adrenaline junky, his only salient romantic relationships are deeply, weirdly co-dependent.
Basically he's .... the logical evolution of Christian Bale's character in American Pyscho.
Batman works best in his own stories, by and large. That's pretty definite.
Naw
He works great with other people
As a support role
The problem is people still want to see him doing his ninja shit, when really he should be playing backseat chemist most of the time he is teamed up with the League or similar
If you want him to shine as a ninja detective, yeah, maybe he should be on his own, or teamed up with someone without combat based super powers
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every time the question is mentioned, I get so angry at what dc did with new 52 vic sage
Oh fuck you
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Constantine is my favorite comic
oops
i mean hellblazer
what kind of idiot would just rename that property Constantine for no reason? I must be hung over, I'm operating on a hollywood level.
but Constanblazer is using a slightly different device. The device in play in Hellstantine is that no one, maybe not even the man himself, is actually certain how powerful John is.
Batman is actually a horrible person. He has no personal life, he's an adrenaline junky, his only salient romantic relationships are deeply, weirdly co-dependent.
Basically he's .... the logical evolution of Christian Bale's character in American Pyscho.
It all makes sense now.
haha, wow. you saw the pier coming and you just held down the gas pedal anyway, didn't you?
Batman is actually a horrible person. He has no personal life, he's an adrenaline junky, his only salient romantic relationships are deeply, weirdly co-dependent.
Basically he's .... the logical evolution of Christian Bale's character in American Pyscho.
It all makes sense now.
haha, wow. you saw the pier coming and you just held down the gas pedal anyway, didn't you?
john is a redhead. so is isley. We know that superman can fly around the sun and travel in time. Ergo, it's very possible that Poison Ivy was secretly a reverse crossdresser and it's HER in the last supper, engineering the "polination" if you will of the christian religion - all in an effort to slow the march of progress by instigating the crusades, thus slowing the use of plant habitat as city.
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they are, first and foremost, superpowerful self-inserts
Arguments with solar I always wait for the predictable end
Oh my god
I'm out
Yeah, but the term has evolved long ago to include more than just self-insertion. Not to mention Batman could easily act as a self-insert for an author so
What spring does with the cherry trees.
even with how those terms have evolved he's using it improperly.
Yeah I kind of stopped reading the post once he said Gary Stu
What spring does with the cherry trees.
I didn't put the bolded part on
you can totally check the edit log on the wiki
but whatever. A canon stu, if you prefer. He's certainly a piece of wish fulfillment. A really dark one, actually, since when you look at batman, at a fundamental level, what is he? He's a rich jock that beats up nerds. Batman is actually a horrible person. He has no personal life, he's an adrenaline junky, his only salient romantic relationships are deeply, weirdly co-dependent.
Basically he's .... the logical evolution of Christian Bale's character in American Pyscho.
It all makes sense now.
I host a podcast about movies.
just fuck it all with its need to label every goddamn thing and trying to compartmentalize and jesus christ
kill it all
Naw
He works great with other people
As a support role
The problem is people still want to see him doing his ninja shit, when really he should be playing backseat chemist most of the time he is teamed up with the League or similar
If you want him to shine as a ninja detective, yeah, maybe he should be on his own, or teamed up with someone without combat based super powers
Where is my Batman/John Constantine team up book
That is what we need
I'm not sure you're using compartmentalize right there
maybe what you mean is it needs to index everything?
Compartmentalizing implies separation, I'm not sure that's what you really mean
(I'm kidding)
I host a podcast about movies.
that is how bad you are, Johnny
Two detectives
Getting the shit kicked out of them by forces more powerful then them
But with enough tactical planning/moxie to keep going
The Question and the Riddler
I went to one of those schools where everyone who plays gets a trophy
I feel like a winner all the time.
Peak human self esteem is my super-power.
I guess I'm very like the tick in that regard
also my tight blue clothing and general obliviousness
I host a podcast about movies.
now I have an erection
Oh fuck you
I'd forgotten
oops
i mean hellblazer
what kind of idiot would just rename that property Constantine for no reason? I must be hung over, I'm operating on a hollywood level.
but Constanblazer is using a slightly different device. The device in play in Hellstantine is that no one, maybe not even the man himself, is actually certain how powerful John is.
I host a podcast about movies.
haha, wow. you saw the pier coming and you just held down the gas pedal anyway, didn't you?
She doesn't have powers or anything, but she's a trained police detective used to dealing with the worst of Gotham's worst
I host a podcast about movies.
ALWAYS REMEMBER TO NEVER FORGET
HISTORY WAS MADE
It just never happened
I host a podcast about movies.
Yeah, and I can't swim
but it's ok
the fall will probably kill me
and why is bruce batman
be cause of his father's death
a cruel murder
what else is cruel
trick or treat
what is another name for a father
pa
"pa trick"
pa trick. bateman
I host a podcast about movies.
john is a redhead. so is isley. We know that superman can fly around the sun and travel in time. Ergo, it's very possible that Poison Ivy was secretly a reverse crossdresser and it's HER in the last supper, engineering the "polination" if you will of the christian religion - all in an effort to slow the march of progress by instigating the crusades, thus slowing the use of plant habitat as city.
I host a podcast about movies.
A thought strikes me, so dreadful I scarcely dare give it utterance!
Adam West rightfully gets a lot of credit for '60s Batman, but Burgess Meredith and the guy who plays Commission Gordon completely seal the deal