Oh god, the roaches. That totally happened to me on my second playthrough. I thought I was being all clever, farming up silver weapons from the fish merchant to deal with the mansion bosses, and then JUMP SPAM HA HA HOPE YOU SAVED RECENTLY OH WAIT YOU COULDN'T BECAUSE STEALTH SEQUENCE
Good times.
Also, late on this, but the whole thing with the Nue messed with my young, impressionable mind. I felt like shit afterwards, which is not what I was expecting from a cartoony JRPG by Capcom. Well played.
Anyhoo, good stuff so far, digging this LP. The mansion should be fun
The Mygas dude reminded me of the Archmage random enemy near the end. Never did manage to beat him.
Neither have I, don't feel bad. Some of the end-game stuff gets kinda weird. And by weird I mean useless and unnecessary.
I once got totally fucked by Archmage - there's one point where you have to walk between two teleporters - they're very close together and the room has a very low encounter rate, but BAM. I hadn't saved in a while either.
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Are you making up any of the dialogue in between screenshots henroid? How are you showing this so I know what is real and what is your fevered humor brain producing witticisms with wild abandon.
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Are you making up any of the dialogue in between screenshots henroid? How are you showing this so I know what is real and what is your fevered humor brain producing witticisms with wild abandon.
Italics text is made up by me. I should have noted this in the OP.
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I thought that might be the case.
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To the LP author, a quick suggestion on what to do with Peco to make your life easier if you hadn't thought of it already:
I'm like you. I find the little bastard worthless and uninteresting. But he IS great for cheesing your way into some great skills in a very timely fashion. I leave him at level 1 and use him to get Kyrie and Shadowstep, since getting a large QUANTITY of levels from level 1 is incredibly easy. Skill Ink+Peco, the most useful Peco.
Well, that's why you use command. Both him andu ncontrolled kaiser follow command. Best skill in the game!
Followed by shadowwalk for Momo to fix her terrible hitting things problem.
Oh man I still have my 80 hour all items, all skills maxed save. I love breath of fire games. Maybe I should do a lp of one of the others.
This is why Rei is better than Garr in every conceivable way. Garr isn't a bad character, he's just overshadowed by unreasonably overpowered ones who do his job way better than him.
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I sure hope by the end of this lets play I'll finally understand what on earth you guys are talking about.
That's your goal here. Make me understand via the power of your pictures.
I found the descriptions of stat + and - very clear btw. Is there a reason why choosing the character you did was odd or different? You seemed to feel the need to explain that one.
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I found the descriptions of stat + and - very clear btw. Is there a reason why choosing the character you did was odd or different? You seemed to feel the need to explain that one.
There's more masters on the way, obviously, but since Rei isn't meant to be a caster (even though he does learn a couple spells) and Roo I like to keep as a melee character, I didn't apprentice them under Mygas. Teepo is built like Roo sorta, but actually learns offensive magic. So him being apprenticed in this way is to his benefit.
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To the LP author, a quick suggestion on what to do with Peco to make your life easier if you hadn't thought of it already:
I'm like you. I find the little bastard worthless and uninteresting. But he IS great for cheesing your way into some great skills in a very timely fashion. I leave him at level 1 and use him to get Kyrie and Shadowstep, since getting a large QUANTITY of levels from level 1 is incredibly easy. Skill Ink+Peco, the most useful Peco.
Yeah.
I'm actually going to wait for a point in the game before I even give Peco any level ups. Specifically, I'm waiting for Deis to be available as a master. She takes 15 levels to learn all her skills, and since her stat gains / penalties are total shit (in my opinion), I'm not putting anyone useful under her tutorage. She pretty much teaches AoE spells and giving those to Momo seems good to me. Nina learns some of those on her own, but her stat gains are so awful I don't plan to use her full-time.
I don't think I've ever actually used her in BoF III beyond the points where you're required to. For some reason, the late-90s JRPG caster chicks just never fit into my parties. Same with Elly in Xenogears. I'm going to have to replay BoF III some time and force myself to use Nina to see how she is.
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I don't think I've ever actually used her in BoF III beyond the points where you're required to. For some reason, the late-90s JRPG caster chicks just never fit into my parties. Same with Elly in Xenogears. I'm going to have to replay BoF III some time and force myself to use Nina to see how she is.
I was the opposite.
I felt like I HAD to have a strong magic caster around. Which wasn't a bad idea per se, but in this game, strong magic use kinda falls short of what melee types can do. Granted, Nina's strength is that she has AP for days so she doesn't run out. She can use magic all the time. But even equipping her with a Wisdom ring, the damage output was so bad. In my previous play through she was getting 200ish damage done against most bosses. Meanwhile Momo was able to shoot for that much damage, and since I had Roo up front in attack formation, he was laying waste to everything with way, way more damage.
I'm thinking of having my party be Roo, Garr, and Momo in the magic formation (Momo being in the back). She can buff the boys, and she'll be versatile enough with her magic and attack that she'll be a good damage dealer. Garr can just soak up damage, as can Roo, who will also have his super-god-mode dragon attacks.
I don't think I've ever actually used her in BoF III beyond the points where you're required to. For some reason, the late-90s JRPG caster chicks just never fit into my parties. Same with Elly in Xenogears. I'm going to have to replay BoF III some time and force myself to use Nina to see how she is.
Off topic, but Elly was pretty useful in a few niche fights. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I do remember a couple of the harder bosses that took a lot of magic damage and that Fei's and Bart's skills were pretty useless.
Elly and Emeralda made them easy.
Someone needs to do a Xenogears Let's Play.
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I don't think I've ever actually used her in BoF III beyond the points where you're required to. For some reason, the late-90s JRPG caster chicks just never fit into my parties. Same with Elly in Xenogears. I'm going to have to replay BoF III some time and force myself to use Nina to see how she is.
Off topic, but Elly was pretty useful in a few niche fights. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I do remember a couple of the harder bosses that took a lot of magic damage and that Fei's and Bart's skills were pretty useless.
I don't think I've ever actually used her in BoF III beyond the points where you're required to. For some reason, the late-90s JRPG caster chicks just never fit into my parties. Same with Elly in Xenogears. I'm going to have to replay BoF III some time and force myself to use Nina to see how she is.
Off topic, but Elly was pretty useful in a few niche fights. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I do remember a couple of the harder bosses that took a lot of magic damage and that Fei's and Bart's skills were pretty useless.
Man, you're not even through the first segment of the story and I'm already nostalgia'd up enough to hunt down a copy of this game. Now to dig up my PS1 from the garage of undying horrors.
Or hey, PS2's do the whole backwards compatability thing, I'll just use that. Would be nice if I could use my PS3 for it...
Glad I'm not the only one nostalgia tripping from this LP. You can accuse BoF3 of playing like a typical JRPG - always felt the encounter rate was on the high side - but I still say it really was something special. There aren't many games that nail the journey, the drama of just getting from A to B in this crazy world. There was never any world-ending impetus to keep going, but the adventure itself was epic all the same. It's difficult to pin down; I've played my share of the genre, but rarely anything quite like it.
And shoot me right here if Ryu and Nina as kids isn't goddamn adorable.
There aren't many JRPGs that nail those "wham" moments as effectively as BoF3 did. When shit goes down in the game, it goes down.
The journey was pretty awesome; everything that happens while RyuRoo blue hair number 3 is a kid is pretty freaking fantastic. He's a lot less interesting once he's grown up, but that's the point that the rest of the cast finally starts to shine.
Edit: And yeah, the rest of the cast rounds out nicely after the time jump. Also, the town-building minigame was great. So many hours lost just trying to get those expansions.
Whenever I think about it... yeah, I really didn't like Momo. I was all right with using Peco for some reason, but Momo really irritated me. There wasn't any particular reason for it, now that I look back on it I tried getting around her accuracy deficiency all the time. But it seemed like whenever I used her, I'd always get stuck in a situation where I'd have to rely on her attacking eventually, and at that point I knew I was screwed. Maybe I just didn't manage her AP very effectively?
Bleh, either way, team migrated towards Blue, Rei and Garr the first time. Maybe when the game arrives I'll land on something else.
Man, you're not even through the first segment of the story and I'm already nostalgia'd up enough to hunt down a copy of this game. Now to dig up my PS1 from the garage of undying horrors.
Or hey, PS2's do the whole backwards compatability thing, I'll just use that. Would be nice if I could use my PS3 for it...
You can use your PS3. It's backwards compatible with PS1 games. Just not PS2 games. All Playstation devices(except for the Vita) can play PS1 games.
Ohhhh that's right, I forgot about that. Probably because I never actually finished my PS2 backlog, and thus kept it hooked up for some theoretical future point when I would have the time.
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Re: Magic casters
In BoF3 at least, I felt that Nina's on the weak side, unless the dungeon has an exploitable weakness. And I was stingy with my AP recovery items so I kind of scrimped on her. Momo's one of my favorites however. I played defensively back then, so having a Defense formation and a main healer+buffer aside from Ryu (who goes balls out with his AP using Dragon forms) helped me a ton.
Also, I tried making Garr worked, but the other guys are better. It's unfair.
Man, you're not even through the first segment of the story and I'm already nostalgia'd up enough to hunt down a copy of this game. Now to dig up my PS1 from the garage of undying horrors.
Or hey, PS2's do the whole backwards compatability thing, I'll just use that. Would be nice if I could use my PS3 for it...
I don't remember typing this post, but it sure looks like the author is me.
Fake edit: Except my PS3 is chinese and really isn't backwards-compatible outside of that region. (Right?)
Good news and bad news. Good news: found a friend with the PSX version of BOF3 I shall be playing it for the first time. Bad news: I can't find my BOF4 pc discs in storage
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Good news and bad news. Good news: found a friend with the PSX version of BOF3 I shall be playing it for the first time. Bad news: I can't find my BOF4 pc discs in storage
I hope you enjoy it. You should. If I was able to, I'd be whipping out updates faster so that you could have a sort of walk-thru. But I'm here to answer questions if you're hesitant / confused about things!
Question: do I need to avoid leveling up in BOF3 until I get 'masters'? Will I gimp myself if I gain too many levels before I unlock any of those?
The only way not having a master hurts is if you NEVER have a master ever in the game. Masters let you emphasize strengths of a character or balance them out. Don't force yourself to go under a master when the options are limited though; if all you have are magic masters available, don't put melee characters under them just because.
But getting a few levels, it won't hurt. Probably around the level 15 content, you want to try to have a master to make the most of things.
Question: do I need to avoid leveling up in BOF3 until I get 'masters'? Will I gimp myself if I gain too many levels before I unlock any of those?
The only way not having a master hurts is if you NEVER have a master ever in the game. Masters let you emphasize strengths of a character or balance them out. Don't force yourself to go under a master when the options are limited though; if all you have are magic masters available, don't put melee characters under them just because.
But getting a few levels, it won't hurt. Probably around the level 15 content, you want to try to have a master to make the most of things.
Ok then. I just broke into some poor hermit's shack and I'm stealing his beef jerky. That's how it starts: first beef jerky robbery, then world domination.
Question: do I need to avoid leveling up in BOF3 until I get 'masters'? Will I gimp myself if I gain too many levels before I unlock any of those?
The only way not having a master hurts is if you NEVER have a master ever in the game. Masters let you emphasize strengths of a character or balance them out. Don't force yourself to go under a master when the options are limited though; if all you have are magic masters available, don't put melee characters under them just because.
But getting a few levels, it won't hurt. Probably around the level 15 content, you want to try to have a master to make the most of things.
Ok then. I just broke into some poor hermit's shack and I'm stealing his beef jerky. That's how it starts: first beef jerky robbery, then world domination.
I'm playing the bad guy, aren't I?
Well, it does start with a dragon whelp going on a rampage...
Speaking of which, I totally wasn't sure who I was controlling that very first time. I saw Mogu and got confused. Felt silly afterwards, and a little guilty. I liked that little mole guy
Ok. Some werehorse jocks just kidnapped the princess, and I have to break out of the goddamn king's dungeon to go get her back. And this is after they a) burnt down my house b) beat on my friends and c) tried to sell me.
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I should explain what happened there; I forgot to pull my formation out of attack to defense. Teepo got wrecked so hard, I felt like an amateur.
Good times.
Also, late on this, but the whole thing with the Nue messed with my young, impressionable mind. I felt like shit afterwards, which is not what I was expecting from a cartoony JRPG by Capcom. Well played.
Anyhoo, good stuff so far, digging this LP. The mansion should be fun
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Neither have I, don't feel bad. Some of the end-game stuff gets kinda weird. And by weird I mean useless and unnecessary.
Henroid, how could you?
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I once got totally fucked by Archmage - there's one point where you have to walk between two teleporters - they're very close together and the room has a very low encounter rate, but BAM. I hadn't saved in a while either.
Italics text is made up by me. I should have noted this in the OP.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Also this.
This is why Rei is better than Garr in every conceivable way. Garr isn't a bad character, he's just overshadowed by unreasonably overpowered ones who do his job way better than him.
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That's your goal here. Make me understand via the power of your pictures.
I found the descriptions of stat + and - very clear btw. Is there a reason why choosing the character you did was odd or different? You seemed to feel the need to explain that one.
There's more masters on the way, obviously, but since Rei isn't meant to be a caster (even though he does learn a couple spells) and Roo I like to keep as a melee character, I didn't apprentice them under Mygas. Teepo is built like Roo sorta, but actually learns offensive magic. So him being apprenticed in this way is to his benefit.
Yeah.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
I was the opposite.
I'm thinking of having my party be Roo, Garr, and Momo in the magic formation (Momo being in the back). She can buff the boys, and she'll be versatile enough with her magic and attack that she'll be a good damage dealer. Garr can just soak up damage, as can Roo, who will also have his super-god-mode dragon attacks.
Elly and Emeralda made them easy.
Someone needs to do a Xenogears Let's Play.
Battlenet ID: MildC#11186 - If I'm in the game, send me an invite at anytime and I'll play.
(Also Nina is made of paper mache)
Good news, the best of LPers already has.
http://lparchive.org/Xenogears-(by-The-Dark-Id)/
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Well if you insist...
well, at least the older Nina
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Damn you!
Now I have to read that.
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Man, you're not even through the first segment of the story and I'm already nostalgia'd up enough to hunt down a copy of this game. Now to dig up my PS1 from the garage of undying horrors.
Or hey, PS2's do the whole backwards compatability thing, I'll just use that. Would be nice if I could use my PS3 for it...
Ain't a thing wrong with that. Ain't a thing.
Glad I'm not the only one nostalgia tripping from this LP. You can accuse BoF3 of playing like a typical JRPG - always felt the encounter rate was on the high side - but I still say it really was something special. There aren't many games that nail the journey, the drama of just getting from A to B in this crazy world. There was never any world-ending impetus to keep going, but the adventure itself was epic all the same. It's difficult to pin down; I've played my share of the genre, but rarely anything quite like it.
And shoot me right here if Ryu and Nina as kids isn't goddamn adorable.
Now playing: Teardown and Baldur's Gate 3 (co-op)
Sunday Spotlight: Horror Tales: The Wine
The journey was pretty awesome; everything that happens while Ryu Roo blue hair number 3 is a kid is pretty freaking fantastic. He's a lot less interesting once he's grown up, but that's the point that the rest of the cast finally starts to shine.
Cept Nina. Fuck Nina.
Cus that's all she's good for, see :winky:
And I don't mean the games.
:winky:
Okay I'll stop now.
Edit: And yeah, the rest of the cast rounds out nicely after the time jump. Also, the town-building minigame was great. So many hours lost just trying to get those expansions.
Now playing: Teardown and Baldur's Gate 3 (co-op)
Sunday Spotlight: Horror Tales: The Wine
Whenever I think about it... yeah, I really didn't like Momo. I was all right with using Peco for some reason, but Momo really irritated me. There wasn't any particular reason for it, now that I look back on it I tried getting around her accuracy deficiency all the time. But it seemed like whenever I used her, I'd always get stuck in a situation where I'd have to rely on her attacking eventually, and at that point I knew I was screwed. Maybe I just didn't manage her AP very effectively?
Bleh, either way, team migrated towards Blue, Rei and Garr the first time. Maybe when the game arrives I'll land on something else.
So it does. Well that's... Pretty cool! I thought I lost all of my awesome game saves forever when my fat PS3 died. Now there's some hope!
EDIT: in that I can resume playing the non-PS2 ones. Of course you realize you just killed my chances of ever clearing my PS3 backlog, now.
Then Steam rolled around :oops:
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Also, I tried making Garr worked, but the other guys are better.
I don't remember typing this post, but it sure looks like the author is me.
Fake edit: Except my PS3 is chinese and really isn't backwards-compatible outside of that region. (Right?)
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
I hope you enjoy it. You should. If I was able to, I'd be whipping out updates faster so that you could have a sort of walk-thru. But I'm here to answer questions if you're hesitant / confused about things!
Edit: oh nm, it looks like BoF3 wasn't released for the PSP in NA.
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The only way not having a master hurts is if you NEVER have a master ever in the game. Masters let you emphasize strengths of a character or balance them out. Don't force yourself to go under a master when the options are limited though; if all you have are magic masters available, don't put melee characters under them just because.
But getting a few levels, it won't hurt. Probably around the level 15 content, you want to try to have a master to make the most of things.
Ok then. I just broke into some poor hermit's shack and I'm stealing his beef jerky. That's how it starts: first beef jerky robbery, then world domination.
I'm playing the bad guy, aren't I?
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Well, it does start with a dragon whelp going on a rampage...
Speaking of which, I totally wasn't sure who I was controlling that very first time. I saw Mogu and got confused. Felt silly afterwards, and a little guilty. I liked that little mole guy
Now playing: Teardown and Baldur's Gate 3 (co-op)
Sunday Spotlight: Horror Tales: The Wine
Vengeance is magic, you pony fucks. Here I come.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW