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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Ross Perot
    Langly wrote: »
    Martin replaced any passion for sex with passion for food, so all the sex scenes are purposeful and character driven, and all the eating scenes are sensual fluff.

    I honestly wonder how he feels about the constant jokes in regards to his infatuation with food in the series.

    Maybe he's actually responsible for a few of them?

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Ross Perot
    if i want to read a fantasy tale with discussions of morality, death, and feasts described in detail

    i will read redwall instead

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    QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    I'll read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Ross Perot
    i'll read the belgariad

    wait

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Kang
    ie: animal racist allegory

    Langly on
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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Ross Perot
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Here is a real poll

    www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/npr/161623593/poll-shows-rural-battlegrounds-backing-romney

    this just in, rural citizens vote against their self-interest

    in other news, something else totally precedented and unsurprising happened today and we'll talk about that for far longer than it deserves

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Kang
    Quoth wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    I'll read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

    Such a good story.

    Unfortunately, the first time I read it was when I was given the abridged version in high school. It cut out a lot of important things.

    Like the fact that Gawain is a huge dick.

    Stilts on
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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    there have been eight whole redwall books released since the last one I read

    kinda tempted to assemble the whole series

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    FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Ross Perot
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    Shit.

    freerepublic.com absolutely loves these unskewed polls

    people there were so happy someone was finally telling the truth the lamestream media ignores

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    QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    I'll read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

    Such a good story.

    Unfortunately, the first time I read it was when I was given the abridged version in high school. It cut out a lot of important things.

    Like the fact that Gawain is a huge dick.

    Which translation, do you know

    I actually like Tolkien's

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
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    Shit.

    freerepublic.com absolutely loves these unskewed polls

    people there were so happy someone was finally telling the truth the lamestream media ignores

    Free Republic - Where logic goes to die

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Ross Perot
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    Fuck You Mitt.

    (Courtesy of Wil Wheaton's Tumblr.)

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    there have been eight whole redwall books released since the last one I read

    kinda tempted to assemble the whole series

    I remember reading one of those (probably the first), and then later I read another one that took place someplace else

    And, as far as I could remember, they were the exact same fucking book except all the names were different

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    Kodos
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

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    AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Fandyien wrote: »
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    Shit.

    freerepublic.com absolutely loves these unskewed polls

    people there were so happy someone was finally telling the truth the lamestream media ignores

    They're gonna be so mad when every single ballot machine gets hacked.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Kang
    I wouldn't call gawain a huge dick, in the context of the story he's just overly proud.

    He does take the challenge when no one else will, and spends a year fighting monsters and traveling alone to find the knight

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

    death

    of

    the

    author

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Kang
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

    The racism in lotr is with the humans.

    All the evil men were swarthy and dark skinned

    Langly on
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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Kodos
    so is death of the author something we should just start saying when we talk about the constitution

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Kang
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

    death

    of

    the

    author

    Because there's only one right way to analyze literature, obviously.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

    The racism on lotr is with the humans.

    All the evil men were swarthy and dark skinned

    In LotRO I made my character a Gondorian chick, with the most 'Southern' skin tone they had

    So that I could be the only black chick in all of Middle Earth

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    so is death of the author something we should just start saying when we talk about the constitution

    i wish

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

    The racism in lotr is with the humans.

    All the evil men were swarthy and dark skinned

    that's not true at all

    the Ringwraiths were white
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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited September 2012
    Ross Perot
    I'd probably like GoT more if Martin replaced the kiddie rape with more loving descriptions of beer-basted boars.

    Sterica on
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    DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    The racism in lotr is with the humans.

    All the evil men were swarthy and dark skinned

    like saruman, grima, and denethor

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    AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    Buttlord wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    ie: animal racist allegory

    are you sure you aren't thinking about lord of the rings

    neither of these things is true

    and they're both true

    death of the author y'all

    Nah, Tolkien was pretty forward about regretting making Orcs faceless evil monsters.

    death

    of

    the

    author

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EWruiIjBmo

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Kodos
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    there have been eight whole redwall books released since the last one I read

    kinda tempted to assemble the whole series

    The only ones you need are "Martin the Warrior," "Mossflower," and maybe "Redwall."

    The rest are just the same story over and over.


    I will say that I noticed the feast descriptions in the redwall books (and loved them) but never noticed them in Martin's books until people pointed them out on the internet.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    The racism in lotr is with the humans.

    All the evil men were swarthy and dark skinned

    like saruman, grima, and denethor

    to be fair, saruman's switch to evil coincided with his becoming saruman the many-colored

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    WhytherWhyther Registered User regular
    The worst Redwall book was the one where there was like a stoat or one of the other 'evil' rodent races was raised by the good races and everyone was like "Oh man he is an evil species he will be evil," and I was reading it thinking "oh man I can't wait for him to show everybody that he is actually a good guy and it is the inside that counts."

    and then he turned out to be (Mostly) evil.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Whyther wrote: »
    The worst Redwall book was the one where there was like a stoat or one of the other 'evil' rodent races was raised by the good races and everyone was like "Oh man he is an evil species he will be evil," and I was reading it thinking "oh man I can't wait for him to show everybody that he is actually a good guy and it is the inside that counts."

    and then he turned out to be (Mostly) evil.

    if I had read that it would have frustrated me so much I would have quit reading the Redwall books

    good thing I never started!

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Kodos
    Whyther wrote: »
    The worst Redwall book was the one where there was like a stoat or one of the other 'evil' rodent races was raised by the good races and everyone was like "Oh man he is an evil species he will be evil," and I was reading it thinking "oh man I can't wait for him to show everybody that he is actually a good guy and it is the inside that counts."

    and then he turned out to be (Mostly) evil.

    Well he was good for like three seconds before he died, so that's what counts.

    Besides, there was the sea rat pirate in "Muriel of Redwall" who reformed after he hung out Redwall for a while.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Ross Perot
    We're an evil race, right?

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    WhytherWhyther Registered User regular
    Like, I read all of those books when I was a kid and I didn't get the possible racist undertones from most of them.

    But like, even little kid me read that and was like whoah this is pretty fucking racist.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Ross Perot
    Great Mouse Detective feels kinda racist in retrospect now.

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    FyndirFyndir Registered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Great Mouse Detective feels kinda racist in retrospect now.

    Nope.

    Nope.

    Shut up.

    Shut the fuck up.

    I will have that pure and unsullied memory and you can't do a thing about it.

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    there's some weird way to read outcast of redwall where it's partly that the dude is just being a shitheel because it's all anyone expects from him

    especially given that when he actually meets up with the bad guys he's like uhhhhh what no fuck this shit

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Kodos
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Great Mouse Detective feels kinda racist in retrospect now.

    Which part? Like how Ratigan denies he's a rat or something?


    Great Mouse Detective will always be fantastic because strippers in a Disney movie

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    ButtlordButtlord Fornicus Lord of Bondage and PainRegistered User regular
    actually that isn't all that weird, thinking about it

    it kinda makes sense

    dude basically just gets shit on from day one because he's a Bad Animal so he starts actually being a shitheel because fuck it, if you're going to get blamed anyway, may as well do it, right?

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