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[Path of Exile] Released on Steam! New Leagues! Now with more balance complaining!

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    Patcher is broken. I got to 236 MB remaining and it refuses to download any more.

  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Even if you close and restart?

  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    Yes.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    If I go duelist, am I going to constantly regret not having cool spells?

    What is this I don't even.
  • ghostbanditghostbandit Registered User regular
    Well i was downloading it last night but it was taking hours...But it "should" be done by the time i get off of work. I will post my account name when i remember what it is lol.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    The website says their patcher is being hammered so who knows.

  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    exis wrote: »
    Word on the vine says that energy shield got a nerf.

    Wait, what does this mean? They already nerfed CI, was ES really that unbalanced?

    Energy Shield was the go-to defensive stat for a ton of end game builds because, at higher levels, there was more energy shield on items than other defensive stats. So what they did is they lowered the amount of energy shield that can roll on items and increased the amount of armor that can roll and brought it up to parity with evasion.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Well the issue I see at a low level is:

    armour doesn't block magic + big hits still hit very hard: therefore it's only useful against things you don't give a shit about anyway

    evasion is random chance and again, can't block spells unless you get a perk for it (I think): therefore it's varying in usefulness and isn't reliable enough

    ES regenerates, blocks everything but chaos damage and is always 100% effective no matter what hits it.

    Like leaving numbers out of the discussion for a second it's not hard to see why at a base level ES is fucking awesome compared to the other two.

    armour needs to block bigger blows better and have some perks that make it work against elemental stuff (it does block physical spells btw).

    Evasion needs a base line garunteed effect to it so it's not as unreliable and even then it'd be a bit of a gimmicky thing. If you re-worked it to be like "this is your evade bar, it goes down when you would have being hit and re-fills after a given period of time) so they could boost the dodge % significantly but make it more of a kiting resource.

  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    I was hoping to get to play with some peeps last night, but everyone gained access to the game at different times so we ended up scaled at different levels.

    After the release what characters did people roll with, and what level did you attain?!

  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    Well the issue I see at a low level is:

    armour doesn't block magic + big hits still hit very hard: therefore it's only useful against things you don't give a shit about anyway

    evasion is random chance and again, can't block spells unless you get a perk for it (I think): therefore it's varying in usefulness and isn't reliable enough

    ES regenerates, blocks everything but chaos damage and is always 100% effective no matter what hits it.

    Like leaving numbers out of the discussion for a second it's not hard to see why at a base level ES is fucking awesome compared to the other two.

    armour needs to block bigger blows better and have some perks that make it work against elemental stuff (it does block physical spells btw).

    Evasion needs a base line garunteed effect to it so it's not as unreliable and even then it'd be a bit of a gimmicky thing. If you re-worked it to be like "this is your evade bar, it goes down when you would have being hit and re-fills after a given period of time) so they could boost the dodge % significantly but make it more of a kiting resource.

    I want to try an ES/Evasion hybrid that would feel kinda like that mechanic -- seems like a good match because you can get high % mitigation and a recharging buffer for the spikes. Dunno how the numbers play out.

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    So this is really funny. I rolled a shadow last night and I've been playing him solo. I'm about to go fight Merveil, and I haven't had a single health potion drop. Yes, you heard me right. I'm getting mana potions out the ass, but I only have one medium flask that I bought for myself before Brutus. I'm about to fight Merveil, and I had to buy a large flask because I haven't seen any health pots drop.

    At first I thought I was just unlucky, but I think this might be a bug.

    Steam: Spawnbroker
  • ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    This game is a lot more interesting right out of the gate than D3 was. I hope it keeps that up past the first few areas because I really like the atmosphere.

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Started this patching last night before I went to bed, so uhh, maybe it's done? Don't know, forgot to look when I left for work. I'll look again before I head out to play Warmachine tonight.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    If I go duelist, am I going to constantly regret not having cool spells?

    I think you'll still be able to pull off some cool spell depending on how you go on the tree.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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  • InkSplatInkSplat 100%ed Bad Rats. Registered User regular
    So this is really funny. I rolled a shadow last night and I've been playing him solo. I'm about to go fight Merveil, and I haven't had a single health potion drop. Yes, you heard me right. I'm getting mana potions out the ass, but I only have one medium flask that I bought for myself before Brutus. I'm about to fight Merveil, and I had to buy a large flask because I haven't seen any health pots drop.

    At first I thought I was just unlucky, but I think this might be a bug.

    I've had health vials drop..so, that'd be a really weird bug.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    InkSplat wrote: »
    So this is really funny. I rolled a shadow last night and I've been playing him solo. I'm about to go fight Merveil, and I haven't had a single health potion drop. Yes, you heard me right. I'm getting mana potions out the ass, but I only have one medium flask that I bought for myself before Brutus. I'm about to fight Merveil, and I had to buy a large flask because I haven't seen any health pots drop.

    At first I thought I was just unlucky, but I think this might be a bug.

    I've had health vials drop..so, that'd be a really weird bug.

    Been getting my fair share of vials, as well.

  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    I still cant get the patcher to finish downloading this last part.

  • MadpandaMadpanda suburbs west of chicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    All of my vials are medium now, and i've sold about 4 of each type. Level 9 just beat the warden.

    I'm playing in regular league if anyone around that level is, add me, in game is benevicious.

    Are damage numbers turned off by design decision? Its kind of hard to tell when my green torpedo spell is hitting people (agi skill i forgot what its called).

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Rizzi wrote: »
    I still cant get the patcher to finish downloading this last part.
    As shitty as it sounds, if you've plumbed the depths of the forums or site's support, delete it and start over.


  • Minerva_SCMinerva_SC Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Yeah I'm not really sure why they choose to not have an option for showing how much damage you do. It's my biggest gripe with the game at the moment. At least show the damage on critical hit or something.

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  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    Rizzi wrote: »
    I still cant get the patcher to finish downloading this last part.

    Have you tried using the torrent to finish the download process by pointing the application at the folder containing what you have downloaded already via the patcher?

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  • Fartacus_the_MightyFartacus_the_Mighty Brought to you by the letter A.Registered User regular
    I only heard details about this game a couple days ago. I started downloading this morning; it's going at a decent clip, but slowing down a bit from earlier (when it was maxing out my meager ~620KB/s connection).

    I was a big fan of FFX's novel (at the time) Sphere Grid system, and I can't wait to get my groove on in Path of Diablo-3-Except-With-Less-Bullshit.

  • mr_michmr_mich Mmmmagic. MDRegistered User regular
    I played up until Level 6ish, where I kill the giant crab thing.

    I apparently already messed up my build, by pumping up +Dex passives on my Ranger rather than the +dmg%, but she'll be dead soon and I won't worry about it. I didn't realize that +atts is mostly useful to get to another tier of gear or gems or something.

    A few observations, with some obligatory D3 comparisons:
    -The atmosphere is really a lot better than D3...it really embarrasses Blizzard. Why they opted to take it in a different direction, I'll never know.
    -I miss the destructible environments from D3. Granted, I've spent the whole time in the wilderness and stuff...does this ever show up in more dungeony-settings?
    -The ability to reroll almost anything on an item (number of sockets, color of sockets, affixes, quality) is super awesome. It really captures the "go forth and loot" vibe that D3 missed.
    -I love seeing a hundred arrows sticking out of things after I've wrought my havoc.
    -I'm getting weird slowdowns? I'm on an i5 2500k and a 7950, so it may be an ATI issue, but it's obnoxious having my framerate drop from 60fps to 30fps in some places.

  • ghostbanditghostbandit Registered User regular
    My characters name is Ghostbandit, regular league.

    Only managed to hit lvl 4 before i had to come back to work :(

    First impressions. Yeah..this is what i wanted diablo 3 to be. I am pretty stoked ill be playing it all night.

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  • PacificstarPacificstar Registered User regular
    @spawnbroker my shadow died :( In a dumb way cause I'm dumb. Was only level 20 though, so maybe I'll make a new one?

  • mr_michmr_mich Mmmmagic. MDRegistered User regular
    Are the update servers still screwed?

  • ghostbanditghostbandit Registered User regular
    i updated like an hour ago. just fine.

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    @spawnbroker my shadow died :( In a dumb way cause I'm dumb. Was only level 20 though, so maybe I'll make a new one?

    Haha no worries, mine died too. I was right before Merveil, and one of the rare siren spawners got three (!) lucky cold crits on me in a row, perma-freezing me to death. Really unlucky, but it happens.

    Steam: Spawnbroker
  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    Yeah finding a frozen remove flask is so critical for hardcore

  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    If I go duelist, am I going to constantly regret not having cool spells?

    I'm playing a duelist with one handed sword + shield and I think my spells are pretty cool. Shield charge for life

  • AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Got my Ranger (Rebeykah) ready. Question is whether I should go HC or Default. Also, my fiber is pretty great, but I wonder if the US server is feasible in terms of ping.

    Absalon on
  • Anon the FelonAnon the Felon In bat country.Registered User regular
    So I'm on, level 11, working on the prison.

    Character name: Anonthefelon

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    If I go duelist, am I going to constantly regret not having cool spells?

    I'm playing a duelist with one handed sword + shield and I think my spells are pretty cool. Shield charge for life

    Would you be able to link some Duelist guides so I make sure not to completely fuck up assignments?

    What is this I don't even.
  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    If I go duelist, am I going to constantly regret not having cool spells?

    I'm playing a duelist with one handed sword + shield and I think my spells are pretty cool. Shield charge for life

    Would you be able to link some Duelist guides so I make sure not to completely fuck up assignments?

    I've only just started playing myself, no guides or anything. Note that in PoE your skills are tied to items, and those can be switched around whenever you want.

    As for the passive tree I've just been getting all of the one handed, attack speed and shield points in the immediate vicinity. From there I'll probably head towards the ranger area to get some more attack speed.

  • AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Absalon wrote: »
    Got my Ranger ready. Question is whether I should go HC or Default. Also, my fiber is pretty great, but I wonder if the US server is feasible in terms of ping.

    Can't comment on skill tree because I'm just plonking stuff in as I feel like is appropriate but the nice thing about Hardcore is that dying doesn't delete your character. It just shifts it down to the soft core league with no penalty.

    As a result I'd recomend playing on the Hardcore league unless you have friends you want to play with if only as a tracker of how long you last without dying.

    EDIT: Though from a non expert's glance it looks a bit weird how much HP your taking for a bow build. You could have way more flat damage and you're skipping 9% movespeed right next to thick skin.

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  • AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Absalon wrote: »
    Got my Ranger ready. Question is whether I should go HC or Default. Also, my fiber is pretty great, but I wonder if the US server is feasible in terms of ping.

    Can't comment on skill tree because I'm just plonking stuff in as I feel like is appropriate but the nice thing about Hardcore is that dying doesn't delete your character. It just shifts it down to the soft core league with no penalty.

    As a result I'd recomend playing on the Hardcore league unless you have friends you want to play with if only as a tracker of how long you last without dying.

    EDIT: Though from a non expert's glance it looks a bit weird how much HP your taking for a bow build. You could have way more flat damage and you're skipping 9% movespeed right next to thick skin.

    Hey, I'm definitely a non-expert myself! I guess I lean towards health because I am the cautious sort, but I guess I can shift away from it as I go along the tree.

    Absalon on
  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Yeah but my point would be that as a bow ranger having the damage to put guys down is going to be much more effective as far as I can tell. You're basically not picking any bow damage talents up.

  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »

    You seem to have a good idea of what you want to do, here's where I would go with it: pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAnEEswguDq0UTRjbGY4hYCP2KLUppTIJMn4yiTWGNZI26DpSOrM64TwtQKBDnEp9TP9N407IVgRW-lfiWK9aSFuvXQBfqmCIYVJjp2egbPZuqnPhdPF35XgNeriC5IZgh3aI8YqvkAqQEZuNnaqeuZ_LogCmV6lurFmuk69stfK3PrnNxYrGrtN-3Q3dRt-_52Ptg-4O707v8PAf8kX3iPxO_MX-Cv6P

    Instead of going through those dex nodes in the middle, work your way along the bottom of the tree so you can pick up Armor Master and Unwavering Stance. You might want to make a detour to pick up Blood Drinker as well, if you're going Blood Magic.

    @Albino Bunny damage nodes are not important at all in this game. Survive, survive, survive is the name of the game. You can't kill things if you get one shot. Life and resist nodes are king.

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  • AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Yeah but my point would be that as a bow ranger having the damage to put guys down is going to be much more effective as far as I can tell. You're basically not picking any bow damage talents up.

    I guess the build is more elemental and based on surviving hits. Also, Blood Magic. I wanted a build that would go against my cautious tendencies but still had a bunch of health.

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