Day 1: Throwaway on B:L
Day 2: Megawagon position #19 (noninformative either way, included for completeness)
Day 3: Fiaryn\RGG (Villager)
Day 4: Fiaryn\RGG Again
Shalmelo seems like a good place to start the discussion today.
I agree that Shalmelo's vote history is not a good one and there's a decent chance that he's mafia. In the spirit of competition, I'd like to throw out another name: Cayrus
Cayrus has a throwaway day 1, and has then been waiting til late in the day to jump on the bandwagon. He hasn't posted much of anything.
Also of note, Cayrus was fairly quick to jump onto jdark's rainfall wagon (I feel fairly safe in saying that jdark actually thought that rainfall was a villager). Cayrus waits until almost the end of the night to change his vote to Xenogears (a mafia member).
Day 1: Throwaway on B:L
Day 2: Megawagon position #19 (noninformative either way, included for completeness)
Day 3: Fiaryn\RGG (Villager)
Day 4: Fiaryn\RGG Again
Shalmelo seems like a good place to start the discussion today.
All that I can say in my defense is that I was really convinced that Fiaryn/RGG was a bad guy. But yeah, can't deny that it's a shitty vote history.
Anyway, I'm most suspicious of SeGaTai at the moment. He's putting most of his votes into minor bandwagons that stand no chance of winning, so it's basically a long string of semi-throwaways.
I agree that Shalmelo's vote history is not a good one and there's a decent chance that he's mafia. In the spirit of competition, I'd like to throw out another name: Cayrus
Cayrus has a throwaway day 1, and has then been waiting til late in the day to jump on the bandwagon. He hasn't posted much of anything.
Also of note, Cayrus was fairly quick to jump onto jdark's rainfall wagon (I feel fairly safe in saying that jdark actually thought that rainfall was a villager). Cayrus waits until almost the end of the night to change his vote to Xenogears (a mafia member).
Saber, you should know by ow that what you describe is me in every phalla. All votes on day 1 are throw away votes. I trusted jdark and went with the network call. Also, I'm phone posting all the ime and thus I often forget to vote until the last minute and also the quote function is my friend.
Sega for being part of the sudden snowball on Rainfall yesterday.
The sudden snowball on me was from people waiting for a network call, it's not inherently suspicious.
Invictus is my vote target for today. His reluctance to switch over to Xenogears was completely at odds with his hasty jump onto my wagon earlier today, and Megafrosts lazy vote on him on Day 2 smells like mafia collusion. It's the most valid point of sanity I can extrapolate at this time.
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So, what's going on today?
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I can see Segatai being evil. Although, I can always see Segatai as being evil. One evil dude right there.
Its board game night, so I'll be busy till close, will try and check back if someone gets AP.
Evil, I wish that would be too easy. Been waiting all day for people jdarksun said would contact me with a password, they have not and for that there's not much I can do, especially with my current vote lead.
Evil, I wish that would be too easy. Been waiting all day for people jdarksun said would contact me with a password, they have not and for that there's not much I can do, especially with my current vote lead.
Jdark was village aligned but effectively a "neutral" as his win condition was to kill only one certain mafia member.
Which means the network could be hosed at this point. It's why I'm still very suspicious of Rainfall who went from "oh no I'm actually useful to the village" to "I AM CONFIRMED BY THE COUNTERWAGON CONTACT ME".
Evil, I wish that would be too easy. Been waiting all day for people jdarksun said would contact me with a password, they have not and for that there's not much I can do, especially with my current vote lead.
Jdark was village aligned but effectively a "neutral" as his win condition was to kill only one certain mafia member.
Which means the network could be hosed at this point. It's why I'm still very suspicious of Rainfall who went from "oh no I'm actually useful to the village" to "I AM CONFIRMED BY THE COUNTERWAGON CONTACT ME".
From what I've seen of other win conditions, it's more likely that he was a villager with an additional win condition. Something like "Eliminate all threats to the village OR kill Orange Soda."
It's perfectly debatable whether that makes him more or less neutral.
On a slightly different note, I'm not a huge fan of the segatai wagon.
Remember back on day 2 when jdark was leading the Megafrost wagon, segatai was one of the only people to say "This is silly, why are we all listening to jdark." The rest of the mafia we know about took a lower profile and just hopped on the megafrost wagon or did a little throwaway.
Not to mention, none of the people who are starting the segatai wagon are people I have a whole lot of trust in. ZH has outlined Shalmelo's sketchy votes. Gizzy has throwaways on day 1 and 3 and jumped onto the network wagon day 2 and 4. 38th Doe has a vote on Ketbra day 1, jumped on the bandwagon day 2 and 3, and stayed on Rainfall last night instead of switching over to Xenogears.
Don't get me wrong, Segatai has a ton of bad votes. I'm just a little suspicious of this.
There isn't one. I think he's another one of those spreadsheeters. Bullshit on that vote count.
Sigh.
It's hard enough compiling an accurate vote count, but putting together one that's off just slightly enough that y'all will accept it? With so few players left in the game? That's damn near impossible.
We are too late in the game to just shrug and let the wagon grow. I'm putting this vote here so we think about this harder than just a thoughtless vote "to save from vote manip". Invictus has offered some thoughtful posts. Also, he is not behaving at all like he did when he was mafia in games ive played with him.
We are too late in the game to just shrug and let the wagon grow. I'm putting this vote here so we think about this harder than just a thoughtless vote "to save from vote manip". Invictus has offered some thoughtful posts. Also, he is not behaving at all like he did when he was mafia in games ive played with him.
Let's not get lazy.
Oh, I'm not saying I don't see the logic on Invictus. I'm down for seeing him dead, it's just I don't like the votes being close enough for vote manipulation to decide who lives and who dies.
Sega for being part of the sudden snowball on Rainfall yesterday.
The sudden snowball on me was from people waiting for a network call, it's not inherently suspicious.
Invictus is my vote target for today. His reluctance to switch over to Xenogears was completely at odds with his hasty jump onto my wagon earlier today, and Megafrosts lazy vote on him on Day 2 smells like mafia collusion. It's the most valid point of sanity I can extrapolate at this time.
What the fuck? Find where I voted for you. Please find it. I have not voted for you, and I did not change my vote from INANTP until jdark made the explicit network call on Xenogears.
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I made a throw away vote day 1 - followed network call day 2 - then all the other days tried to put my thoughts out there before network calls. Nothing has been a "throw away" vote. But I guess it's obvious I know jack shit about what's going on .
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(9) The Anonymous - CesareB, Mill, Egos, Megafrost, SaberOverEasy, KetBra, Void Slayer, typhus733, Anialos, Gandalf_the_Crazed, Langly, KetBra, TehSpectre
(6) Infidel - Thetheroo, Delmain, Megafrost, Assuran, Bliss 101, SeGaTai, CesareB, The Anonymous, KetBra
(7) Assuran - Fiaryn\RGG, Thetheroo, Infidel, B:L, thorgot, Bliss 101, The Anonymous, jdarksun, romanqwerty
(5) Fiaryn\RGG - Bedlam, Premium, Gandalf_the_Crazed, Megafrost, Hucklebuck, KetBra
(4) Mill - Lucedes, OminousLozenge, Smasher, Macallan
(3) KetBra - Spoit, 38thDoe, Rainfall
(2) 38thDoe - locus, Xenogears
(1) Thetheroo - Kilnaga
(1) jdarksun - Anialos, Gandalf_the_Crazed, Zombie Hero
(1) TehSpectre - ObiFett
(1) shalmelo - INANTP
(1) Spoit - Bliss 101, Cayrus
(1) B:L - shalmelo
(1) SeGaTai - Invictus
(1) Gandalf_the_Crazed - MikeyCTS
(1) Anialos - Gizzy
(1) OminousLozenge - Alegis, Bliss 101, Bliss 101
(1) ObiFett - Void Slayer, Hucklebuck, Fiaryn
(1) Zombie Hero - Farangu
(1) Delmain - Baidol
(0) Megafrost - TehSpectre
(0) Langly - Delmain, romanqwerty
(0) Cythraul - Megafrost
(0) CesareB - B:L
(0) Bliss 101 - Megafrost
(0) Farangu - Megafrost
(0) INANTP - Gandalf_the_Crazed
(0) Void Slayer - ObiFett
DAY 2
(4) Spoit - Spoit, Lucedes, Anialos, SeGaTai, Invictus
(2) OminousLozenge - Bedlam, Infidel
(1) Anialos - B:L, shalmelo
(1) INANTP - Infidel
(1) Lucedes - Thetheroo
(1) Xenogears - locus
(1) B:L - Lucedes
(1) Infidel - Megafrost
(1) KetBra - Premium, Macallan
(1) Cayrus - Ominous Lozenge
(1) locus - Xenogears of Bore
(0) Mill - Megafrost
(0) Invictus - Bedlam, Megafrost
(0) Bliss 101 - Zombie Hero, TehSpectre, Invictus
(0) Fiaryn\RGG - Hucklebuck, Bliss 101, Bedlam
Day 3
Anialios(4) - B:L, Shalmelo, typhus733, jdarksun, 38thdoe, Macallan, MikeyCTS
Fiaryn\RGG (4) - Premium, Egos, Shalmelo, Hucklebuck
locus(2) - SegaTai, Xenogears of Bore
Spoit (1) - Anialos
Xenogears of Bore (1) - locus
M.D. (2) - thorgot, Rainfall
Smasher(1) - SaberOverEasy
Thetheroo (1) - Gizzy
SaberOverEasy (1) - Bedlam
TehSpectre (1) - Smasher
Rainfall (0) - Bedlam
Delmain (0) - Hucklebuck
Day 4
(5) Rainfall - Gizzy, M.D., jdarksun, Cayrus, SaberOverEasy, SegaTai, Xenogears of Bore, 38thdoe, Hucklebuck, Jaysonfour
(2) Gizzy - Thetheroo,INANTP, Macallan, Rainfall
(2) Zombie Hero - B:L, Anialos
(2) Rawking Goodguy - Shalmelo, Egos
(0) INANTP - Invictus, Zombie Hero
(1) Thetheroo - MikeyCTS, Smasher
(0) Hucklebuck - Rawkking Goodguy
(0) SabreOverEasy - 38thdoe, Invictus
(0) B:L- Zombie Hero
(0) Bedlam - Rainfall
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Day 2: Megawagon position #19 (noninformative either way, included for completeness)
Day 3: Fiaryn\RGG (Villager)
Day 4: Fiaryn\RGG Again
Shalmelo seems like a good place to start the discussion today.
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Fixed. Thanks for the heads up.
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Second time is a charm
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Cayrus has a throwaway day 1, and has then been waiting til late in the day to jump on the bandwagon. He hasn't posted much of anything.
Also of note, Cayrus was fairly quick to jump onto jdark's rainfall wagon (I feel fairly safe in saying that jdark actually thought that rainfall was a villager). Cayrus waits until almost the end of the night to change his vote to Xenogears (a mafia member).
All that I can say in my defense is that I was really convinced that Fiaryn/RGG was a bad guy. But yeah, can't deny that it's a shitty vote history.
**shrug**
Saber, you should know by ow that what you describe is me in every phalla. All votes on day 1 are throw away votes. I trusted jdark and went with the network call. Also, I'm phone posting all the ime and thus I often forget to vote until the last minute and also the quote function is my friend.
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Invictus(2) - Rainfall, Anialos
Rainfall(1) - B:L
Shalmelo(1) - Zombie Hero
Cayrus(1) - SabreOverEasy
SegaTai(1) - Shalmelo
Really guys? 5.5 hours left to go...
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Sega for being part of the sudden snowball on Rainfall yesterday.
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The sudden snowball on me was from people waiting for a network call, it's not inherently suspicious.
Invictus is my vote target for today. His reluctance to switch over to Xenogears was completely at odds with his hasty jump onto my wagon earlier today, and Megafrosts lazy vote on him on Day 2 smells like mafia collusion. It's the most valid point of sanity I can extrapolate at this time.
So, what's going on today?
Its board game night, so I'll be busy till close, will try and check back if someone gets AP.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Jdark was village aligned but effectively a "neutral" as his win condition was to kill only one certain mafia member.
Which means the network could be hosed at this point. It's why I'm still very suspicious of Rainfall who went from "oh no I'm actually useful to the village" to "I AM CONFIRMED BY THE COUNTERWAGON CONTACT ME".
From what I've seen of other win conditions, it's more likely that he was a villager with an additional win condition. Something like "Eliminate all threats to the village OR kill Orange Soda."
It's perfectly debatable whether that makes him more or less neutral.
Remember back on day 2 when jdark was leading the Megafrost wagon, segatai was one of the only people to say "This is silly, why are we all listening to jdark." The rest of the mafia we know about took a lower profile and just hopped on the megafrost wagon or did a little throwaway.
Not to mention, none of the people who are starting the segatai wagon are people I have a whole lot of trust in. ZH has outlined Shalmelo's sketchy votes. Gizzy has throwaways on day 1 and 3 and jumped onto the network wagon day 2 and 4. 38th Doe has a vote on Ketbra day 1, jumped on the bandwagon day 2 and 3, and stayed on Rainfall last night instead of switching over to Xenogears.
Don't get me wrong, Segatai has a ton of bad votes. I'm just a little suspicious of this.
!Invictus
Fair point. Pretty sure there's still at least one vote manipulator at large. Invictus it is.
Or
I guess
anti-Gizzy technically
Invictus (5) - Rainfall, Anialos, B:L, shalmelo, SeGaTai
SeGaTai (3) - Gizzy, 38thdoe, Jaysonfour
Anialos (1) - MacAllan
Cayrus (1) - SaberOverEasy
Egos (1) - cayrus
Gizzy (1) - INANTP
Shalmelo (1) - zombie hero
Still missing votes from Delmain, Egos, Invictus, Smasher, Spoit, and thetheroo
There isn't one. I think he's another one of those spreadsheeters. Bullshit on that vote count.
Sigh.
It's hard enough compiling an accurate vote count, but putting together one that's off just slightly enough that y'all will accept it? With so few players left in the game? That's damn near impossible.
We are too late in the game to just shrug and let the wagon grow. I'm putting this vote here so we think about this harder than just a thoughtless vote "to save from vote manip". Invictus has offered some thoughtful posts. Also, he is not behaving at all like he did when he was mafia in games ive played with him.
Let's not get lazy.
Nintendo ID: Pastalonius
Smite\LoL:Gremlidin \ WoW & Overwatch & Hots: Gremlidin#1734
3ds: 3282-2248-0453
Nintendo ID: Pastalonius
Smite\LoL:Gremlidin \ WoW & Overwatch & Hots: Gremlidin#1734
3ds: 3282-2248-0453
Oh, I'm not saying I don't see the logic on Invictus. I'm down for seeing him dead, it's just I don't like the votes being close enough for vote manipulation to decide who lives and who dies.
That's Nasus's job.
What the fuck? Find where I voted for you. Please find it. I have not voted for you, and I did not change my vote from INANTP until jdark made the explicit network call on Xenogears.
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