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[Iron Man 3] is out now! Man of Steel coming soon.

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  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    just watched iron man 3

    that was certainly a joyless experience

    How... I mean...

    Don Cheadle and Robert Downey Jr. at maximum charm! Splendid robobiff! Witty dialog!
    Trevor!

    I'll give you RDJ, but, uh... Don Cheadle at maximum charm? did we watch the same movie cause in the Iron Man 3 I watched, Don Cheadle had like a few throwaway lines and hardly any presence

    Cheadle was decent in Iron Man 3. They didn't give him enough to do. Watch House of Lies for maximum Cheadle charm.

    exactly

    i don't doubt Cheadle as a fine actor.

    i'm talking more about the script and how he was written in

  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    EW finally posted that article with the Fiege quote about Marvel getting the Ghost Rider rights back; he doesn't go into detail about the specifics of how they got it back, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he didn't misspeak.

    Article also has Fiege taking a dump on the Planet Hulk rumor. (I think the quote has been around before)
    http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/05/17/marvel-phase-3/

    So reading over this, the two he seems most excited/certain about are Dr. Strange (no news there) and Inhumans (his implication that it would star or feature someone going through the mist, uncertain of what they will become, makes it sound really cool. For some reason, I had assumed it would only star characters that had already been mist-ed, and I wasn't that interested).

    Hulk still seems like a "maybe"

    There really isn't anything at all said about Black Panther, unfortunately. Not as promising as I'd hoped

    And despite a script and director, sounds like Runaways is still on the backburner until further notice

    And it doesn't quite sound like another Iron Man is in the works just yet

    So maybe Phase 3 will look something like this?

    Ant-Man
    Thor 3
    Dr. Strange
    Cap 3
    Inhumans
    Avengers 3

    Wishful thinking, but I have this idea where the Big Three's movies take a break for a phase and they play supporting roles in order to bolster other heroes

    So without veering too far out there, I'd do something like:

    Ant-Man (Hank, Wasp, and Hawkeye in supporting roles)
    Hulk (Leader as the villain, Tony (possibly recast, but hopefully not) supporting)
    Dr. Strange (Thor supporting? Iffy on that, but Strange-related artifacts are in Asgard right now)
    Black Panther (Cap supporting)
    Inhumans (Pietro supporting)
    Avengers 3

    I'd like to squeeze Captain Marvel or Runaways or Heroes for Hire in there, but I feel like Marvel/Disney are going to want to churn out another Avengers flick as quickly as they can. Though honestly, if they went with something like my second list, you could practically grab some of these less prominent names and do a Defenders or West Coast Avengers film instead. I just don't think they would.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    They need to give War Machine his own movie. Cheadle has earned his time in the spotlight and it'd give Downey jr. a break from Stark if he needs it - or reduce him to a cameo or supporting role.

    Harry Dresden on
  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    Yeah

    Barely anyone saw that thing, or even remembers it

    That shit was like twelve months ago

    UnbreakableVow on
  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I know it's late, but the best way to have the Rock get into the MCU universe is as himself, cosplaying as Hulk

  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    Yeah

    Barely anyone saw that thing, or even remembers it

    That shit was like twelve months ago

    yes, that was what i was saying

    and being facetious and shit without addressing the argument i made at all

    real effective

  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Jimothy wrote: »
    Matthew McConaughey can give a fantastic performance when he puts his mind to it

    Dazed and Confused, A Time to Kill, Amistad, Reign of Fire, etc.

    He's excellent in Tropic Thunder

    I mean, it's blatantly an Owen Wilson role, but he's very funny in it

    I never knew that.

    With that known though, I think McConaughey would have still done a better job then Wilson.

    Going off the dialogue and role, it's definitely something that is in line with Wilson's usual roles in Stiller movies

    But also Wilson was supposed to be in the film until he attempted suicide and had to be replaced while he recuperated

  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    the Rock should play Thunderball if the Wrecking Crew finds its way onto the screen somehow

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    Yeah

    Barely anyone saw that thing, or even remembers it

    That shit was like twelve months ago

    yes, that was what i was saying

    and being facetious and shit without addressing the argument i made at all

    real effective

    Because it's not incredibly reductive to say it was just to remind audiences of a film pretty much everyone on planet Earth has seen?

    Lazily done, perhaps. He gets over his anxiety attacks rather quickly, but it's a summer blockbuster (and a rather long one at that) so they have to keep the pacing up

    I'd rather they'd tried and failed then do nothing at all. Would you rather Tony just be completely mentally okay after the events of The Avengers?

  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    Yeah

    Barely anyone saw that thing, or even remembers it

    That shit was like twelve months ago

    I don't think it was that lazy, since the character Tony Stark has this big but not impenetrable ego that people can manipulate. He really responds to threats and challenges, so I thought that overcoming his anxiety was a callback to the first Iron Man.

    Iron Man 1 -
    Gets captured, decides that his captors will probably kill him whether he capitulates or not, decides to give up.

    Tony: "I'll probably be dead in a week."
    Yensin: "Then this is a very important week for you, isn't it?"

    ...and he builds his way out of certain death.


    So... after the Avengers, he's got a threat looming over his head, and he can't shake his fear of it, but the characterization of Pepper doesn't make it seem like she supports his (admittedly pretty bonkers) habit of working on new Iron Man tech. He needs somebody outside of himself to egg him on, and remind him that he can be all MacGyver and shit (which he then proceeds to be).

    Tony: (Panic Attack)
    Kid: "Why don't you just build something?"

    If you can believe in the Iron Man 1 character arc, you can believe in the Iron Man 3 character arc, I think.

    CowShark on
  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    ?

    Tony's anxiety attacks were part of the most overriding theme of the movie which was expressed all over the place
    He's not sleeping, he's made over thirty suits because he's working like a crazy person, he makes a very public and stupid threat to the Mandarin to overcompensate for his insecurity (and then freaks out when he hears the doorbell), he uses his suits as a buffer against the rest of the world, including Pepper (romancing her remotely via the suit), flips out at the idea that his suit isn't charging fast enough, has a major scene where he demonstrates/learns that he can be effective without a suit (getting creative with hardware store supplies), and ends the movie by destroying all the suits he had created in his desperation to feel secure (and special attention is given to his destroying the suit that he had spent the movie using as a physical stand-in)

    I mean

    that was the whole movie

  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    As somebody who's been dealing with PTSD for around a decade, I thought it was pretty good and even made me a bit uncomfortable.

  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    Up until a few years ago I still had violent fits in my sleep so
    calling the suit in his sleep, and the way he tried to brush it off after he woke up, was really relevant for me

  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    balerbower wrote: »
    just watched iron man 3

    that was certainly a joyless experience


    Everybody take a good look.

    This is what a fun-hater looks like.

    sarukun on
  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Yeah, Tony's panic attacks were pretty accurate to how I feel when I get a panic attack.

    Something triggers it, I feel like I'm gonna die, then I either calm down slowly or something distracts me and it's like it never happened.

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Iron Man 3
    Bruce should have redirected Tony to his buddy Leonard Samson

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  • balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    read jimothy's post. was a good one.

    been pondering for like the past hour why i didn't enjoy the film. will get back to you guys on that.

    and i ain't no fun-hater. i loved the first and second iron man films. i just was sorely disappointed by this one and i can't quite put my finger on why, yet.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    read jimothy's post. was a good one.

    been pondering for like the past hour why i didn't enjoy the film. will get back to you guys on that.

    and i ain't no fun-hater. i loved the first and second iron man films. i just was sorely disappointed by this one and i can't quite put my finger on why, yet.

    You should read the Iron Man 3 thread in D & D. That'll give you ideas about where the movie failed.

  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    It's entirely possible to not enjoy Iron Man 3 as much as you expected you would enjoy it from the hype and all that, and to end up feeling like you didn't enjoy it at all.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    the whole PTSD/anxiety attack thing was lazily written, never really amounted to anything substantial thematically, and only seemed like a reference vehicle to remind audiences of the existence of The Avengers movie

    As somebody who's been dealing with PTSD for around a decade, I thought it was pretty good and even made me a bit uncomfortable.

    You know, I was wondering how you would feel about that.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    balerbower wrote: »
    read jimothy's post. was a good one.

    been pondering for like the past hour why i didn't enjoy the film. will get back to you guys on that.

    and i ain't no fun-hater. i loved the first and second iron man films. i just was sorely disappointed by this one and i can't quite put my finger on why, yet.

    You should read the Iron Man 3 thread in D & D. That'll give you ideas about where the movie failed.

    Which mostly means, in this case, nitpicking things the film explained. Some of them explained in detail, even.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Please don't venture into a D&D thread about something if it's about something that you actually enjoy

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    read jimothy's post. was a good one.

    been pondering for like the past hour why i didn't enjoy the film. will get back to you guys on that.

    and i ain't no fun-hater. i loved the first and second iron man films. i just was sorely disappointed by this one and i can't quite put my finger on why, yet.

    You should read the Iron Man 3 thread in D & D. That'll give you ideas about where the movie failed.

    Which mostly means, in this case, nitpicking things the film explained. Some of them explained in detail, even.

    Nitpicking to you, logical criticisms to them. It's a thread to give him critiques to think about. Whether he agrees or disagrees is up to him. I think details are what he wants to solidify his thoughts on the movie.
    Please don't venture into a D&D thread about something if it's about something that you actually enjoy

    :lol:

    Harry Dresden on
  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Please don't venture into a D&D thread about something if it's about something that you actually enjoy

    I edited for more general purpose advice.

  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    D&D is where you go if you want to be banned

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Goddamn that is both a neat nod to Iron Man 3 and a super clever way to excuse Iron Man being both on the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy at the same time.

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  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Again, reminder that:
    remote controlled Iron Man armor
    is from at least as far back as the early 90s. He had one in the very first Iron Man I ever had/read.

    e: spoilering a potential spoiler.

    Tox on
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  • wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    They need to give War Machine his own movie. Cheadle has earned his time in the spotlight and it'd give Downey jr. a break from Stark if he needs it - or reduce him to a cameo or supporting role.
    I agree except
    replace "War Machine" with Pepper Potts/whatever her superhero name is.

  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    wandering wrote: »
    They need to give War Machine his own movie. Cheadle has earned his time in the spotlight and it'd give Downey jr. a break from Stark if he needs it - or reduce him to a cameo or supporting role.
    I agree except
    replace "War Machine" with Pepper Potts/whatever her superhero name is.
    Rescue

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    balerbower wrote: »
    read jimothy's post. was a good one.

    been pondering for like the past hour why i didn't enjoy the film. will get back to you guys on that.

    and i ain't no fun-hater. i loved the first and second iron man films. i just was sorely disappointed by this one and i can't quite put my finger on why, yet.

    You should read the Iron Man 3 thread in D & D. That'll give you ideas about where the movie failed.

    Which mostly means, in this case, nitpicking things the film explained. Some of them explained in detail, even.

    Nitpicking to you, logical criticisms to them. It's a thread to give him critiques to think about. Whether he agrees or disagrees is up to him. I think details are what he wants to solidify his thoughts on the movie.
    Please don't venture into a D&D thread about something if it's about something that you actually enjoy

    :lol:

    Sorry Harry but while there are plenty of criticisms to be made I left that mthread a few days ago cause someone wouldn't let go of the extra suits issue even thought the movie tells you he can't use them and came back today to find the same person arguing the same damn thing.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    haha blurb for the young avengers preview
    The book where when a character says “I did it half an hour ago” normally means doing “it” half an hour ago reaches its first epic conclusion.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Nic Cage is

    Luke Cage

    That's where he picked the last name from, isn't it?

  • wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    People who don't like Nic Cage fill me with Nic Rage

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Nic Cage is

    Luke Cage

    That's where he picked the last name from, isn't it?

    Yes. He didn't want people to know he was related to a famous director, so he picked the name of his favorite superhero: Cage.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Futore wrote: »
    so what you're saying is that the rock's dad should play luke cage

    let's all imagine a Luke Cage movie made in 1979 starring Rocky Johnson

    you could pretty much just watch most blaxploitation movies from the era and get the same effect

    well except I don't know of any blaxploitation films where the hero has super strength and unbreakable skin and fights crime for a fee

    I'm sure Blacula comes pretty damn close.

    Y'know, not really

    Like, I love Blacula and Scream Blacula Scream

    But they're not like blaxploitation kung fu affairs, they're really more in the realm of melodramatic bad seventies horror

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Also

    @The Lovely Bastard
    @Lost Salient
    @Zonugal

    My new local comic book shop has a decent business in DVD rental, including a reasonably sizeable cult section. Let's watch some awful stuff together.

  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    Nic also named his son Kal-El.

  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    Nic also named his son Kal-El.

    Poor kid. On so many levels.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    Rich kid.

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  • AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Nogs wrote: »
    Rich kid.

    I'm sure he leads a very fufilling life, yes.

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