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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Big news happening in Texas. Meanwhile, on CNN:

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    to be fair, it really doesn't matter. override can testify as to the utter irrelevance of trying to intimidate representatives already in office with a studiously non-violent mob. The only interesting decisionmaker here is the Federal Supreme Court, really.

    every day this law is delayed is a day that a woman in Texas who needs an abortion has one less hurdle to jump.

    Considering Texas is #3 for teen pregnancies and #1 for repeat teen pregnancies, it's probably even more than just a woman this matters to.

    I'm not even sure what this means, but the fact that I read it as something pretty fucking virulent means I need to leave [chat].

    It means the supposed "Pro Life" movement in your state causes more abortions than it prevents through suppressed education and an aversion to medical and scientific understanding of problems that are inconvenient to stunted morality.

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    Podly wrote: »
    this texas stuff is just nuts

    to offer lighter fare, getting a few mason jars and picking your own veggies (and certain fruits!) is a super cheap way to make your own cheap, delicious snacks

    Do you pickle garlic?

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    CCP can afford to cruise on its earlier successes. It fucks up a lot, and when it does it has a loyal fanbase that supports a game that despite its flaws is so unique that its players can't go anywhere else.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    i like to go to my market and pick up whatever veg (or season bountiful veg/fruit) is on sale and pickle it to see how it turns out

    that's how i discovered pickled ramps are the fucking DELICIOUS

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
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    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    That is Destiny's stated gameplan, according to Bungie and Activision. Halo went for for a decade so I don't see why Destiny shouldn't

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Picked bananas

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Picked bananas

    All my pickled nightmares.

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    You are as optimistic about Dust as he is about Destiny.

    Dust is pulling in revenue and developed by a company that has a good track record for this stuff.

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    MillMill Registered User regular
    It's the modern GOP, at the state level, made up of tea party idiots and corporate shills, I doubt most of them understand how anything works.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    You are as optimistic about Dust as he is about Destiny.

    Dust is pulling in revenue and developed by a company that has a good track record for this stuff.

    CCP has a good track record of holding people hostage because they're the only game in town.

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    KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Picked bananas

    Why are you so terrible? First you forgot to get ham, now you want to pickle crazy things. What next?

    Freedom for the Northern Isles!
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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    the threat of a low-level democratic body being hijacked by an organized concentrated interest because its local opposition is too diffuse is an omnipresent one

    the only real permanent cure is to dissolve the body and revert its powers to a sufficiently senior level of representation, such that elected representatives are actually representative, due to a diffusion of interest imposed by sheer size

    all American states are arguably too small, even California and Texas, since both tend to be dominated by one of their national parties each. But "dissolve Texas" is hardly going to be on the average American's political horizon.

    The problem is that sufficient popular support in elections is unduly difficult by design of those in power.

    I'm sorry, if you're expecting even well-run democracies to continually probe for opposition, you're going to be permanently disappointed

    (for the sake of consistency, I should point out that I have argued before on [chat] that deliberately hampering populism under the weight of bureaucratic institutions is a big part of stabilizing a liberal welfare state. You want the kind of people who can mobilize "popular support" at local levels to stay far, far away from the reins of power. Only distant bureaucrats poll; all votes are driven by enthusiasm, and all local enthusiasm is driven by concentrated interest.)

    I would posit there's a difference between probing for opposition and rigging the system to ensure a lack of opposition.

    nope

    there is no body here that can deliver an uncontested opinion on just how much give an incumbent majority is obliged to let the loyal opposition have

    noting that your country has vigorous notions on what constitute legitimate kinds of electoral districts to begin with, and won't readily tolerate, e.g., non-geographical seats. I have no clue why you think this stuff has some simple uncontested point of fairness.

    I don't think you have a firm grasp on how districting works in practice in the US maybe?

    Gerrymandering isn't just some dream someone came up with to explain why Republicans continue to control legislatures with less than a majority of votes.

    I know what gerrymandering is, thanks

    I also know that your country cannot tolerate any of the 'mathematical' solutions because of ethnic enfranchisement concerns, but won't tolerate dedicated non-geographical ethnic representation either, or non-equal votes of representatives

    so, out of a balance of political imperatives, you've wound up with a system where continual adjustment of electoral boundaries is necessary, and you are shocked, shocked! that this has forced your governments to retain archaic politicking over the drawing of these boundaries

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    CCP's way of developing things is releasing something okay and then adding to it until it's better and then worse and then okay and then WORSE and then whatever fuck this I'm either addicted or I'm gonna escape and live a good long life.

    It's release something unique, develop a stable core player population, continue development at the rate that population can fund, lol 10 years later game is still running and more successful than ever.

    This is true for EVE, 100%.

    Sadly this is not true for Dust 514, that turned out to be very generic. I mean, yes, it has a persistent world but so does Destiny and The Division so its not that special on that front.

    You played it what, in beta? Even now they're only just scratching the surface of the stuff they're going to add.

    No I played it once it got out of beta. They would have to practically completely overhaul the game and rework core mechanics to make it non-generic.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    You are as optimistic about Dust as he is about Destiny.

    Dust is pulling in revenue and developed by a company that has a good track record for this stuff.

    Destiny is being made by Bungie, who long ago had to reinforce their plumbing because they shit solid gold. Nobody is going to lose money on Destiny.

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    A couple years ago we grew a bunch of pickling cucumbers. But when it came time to pickle them, Mom decided to use a salt brine instead of a vinegar brine.

    A whole years worth of "pickles" were rendered completely inedible.

    But the good news is, a jar of pickles at the store is pretty cheap, and it doesn't taste like I just drank seawater.

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    That is Destiny's stated gameplan, according to Bungie and Activision. Halo went for for a decade so I don't see why Destiny shouldn't

    Strange, I don't remember anyone still playing Halo 1 in 2011.

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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    this texas stuff is just nuts

    to offer lighter fare, getting a few mason jars and picking your own veggies (and certain fruits!) is a super cheap way to make your own cheap, delicious snacks

    Do you pickle garlic?

    Sweet pickled garlic is delicious

    Also sort of disgusting, in that oh god now I sweat garlic kind of way

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Sen. Uresti: Senate Journal clerk has the vote on SB5 started at 12:02. #txlege

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    You are as optimistic about Dust as he is about Destiny.

    Dust is pulling in revenue and developed by a company that has a good track record for this stuff.

    Destiny is being made by Bungie, who long ago had to reinforce their plumbing because they shit solid gold. Nobody is going to lose money on Destiny.

    Hint: they don't need to lose money for it to stop being worth continuing development long before 10 years is up.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    That is Destiny's stated gameplan, according to Bungie and Activision. Halo went for for a decade so I don't see why Destiny shouldn't

    Strange, I don't remember anyone still playing Halo 1 in 2011.

    a-hem

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    CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    CCP's way of developing things is releasing something okay and then adding to it until it's better and then worse and then okay and then WORSE and then whatever fuck this I'm either addicted or I'm gonna escape and live a good long life.

    It's release something unique, develop a stable core player population, continue development at the rate that population can fund, lol 10 years later game is still running and more successful than ever.

    This is true for EVE, 100%.

    Sadly this is not true for Dust 514, that turned out to be very generic. I mean, yes, it has a persistent world but so does Destiny and The Division so its not that special on that front.

    You played it what, in beta? Even now they're only just scratching the surface of the stuff they're going to add.

    I want more time spent on World of Darkness, to be honest.

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Picked bananas

    Why are you so terrible? First you forgot to get ham, now you want to pickle crazy things. What next?

    A9ewoGd.jpg

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    That is Destiny's stated gameplan, according to Bungie and Activision. Halo went for for a decade so I don't see why Destiny shouldn't

    Strange, I don't remember anyone still playing Halo 1 in 2011.

    Destiny is a series of games, you know, like mass effect. No need to be intentionally obtuse.

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    the hamfinding was unsuccessful, m_j?

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    https://www.texastribune.org/donate/

    if you watched the feed on the Texas Trib site, and feel generous.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    the threat of a low-level democratic body being hijacked by an organized concentrated interest because its local opposition is too diffuse is an omnipresent one

    the only real permanent cure is to dissolve the body and revert its powers to a sufficiently senior level of representation, such that elected representatives are actually representative, due to a diffusion of interest imposed by sheer size

    all American states are arguably too small, even California and Texas, since both tend to be dominated by one of their national parties each. But "dissolve Texas" is hardly going to be on the average American's political horizon.

    The problem is that sufficient popular support in elections is unduly difficult by design of those in power.

    I'm sorry, if you're expecting even well-run democracies to continually probe for opposition, you're going to be permanently disappointed

    (for the sake of consistency, I should point out that I have argued before on [chat] that deliberately hampering populism under the weight of bureaucratic institutions is a big part of stabilizing a liberal welfare state. You want the kind of people who can mobilize "popular support" at local levels to stay far, far away from the reins of power. Only distant bureaucrats poll; all votes are driven by enthusiasm, and all local enthusiasm is driven by concentrated interest.)

    I would posit there's a difference between probing for opposition and rigging the system to ensure a lack of opposition.

    nope

    there is no body here that can deliver an uncontested opinion on just how much give an incumbent majority is obliged to let the loyal opposition have

    noting that your country has vigorous notions on what constitute legitimate kinds of electoral districts to begin with, and won't readily tolerate, e.g., non-geographical seats. I have no clue why you think this stuff has some simple uncontested point of fairness.

    I don't think you have a firm grasp on how districting works in practice in the US maybe?

    Gerrymandering isn't just some dream someone came up with to explain why Republicans continue to control legislatures with less than a majority of votes.

    I know what gerrymandering is, thanks

    I also know that your country cannot tolerate any of the 'mathematical' solutions because of ethnic enfranchisement concerns, but won't tolerate dedicated non-geographical ethnic representation either, or non-equal votes of representatives

    so, out of a balance of political imperatives, you've wound up with a system where continual adjustment of electoral boundaries is necessary, and you are shocked, shocked! that this has forced your governments to retain archaic politicking over the drawing of these boundaries

    Are you seriously just saying DWI in regards to how fucked up our legislature is?

    I really don't get your point here, unless it's just dismissive, wanking pragmatism.

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    The remaining senators in the chamber being asked to caucus behind closed dors to resolve the evening's disarray. Some are refusing. #txlege

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited June 2013
    ... so they did just edit the legal logging of their votes.

    How fucking skeevy does this have to get before the federal government can step in and smack them about the head and shoulders?

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    CCP's way of developing things is releasing something okay and then adding to it until it's better and then worse and then okay and then WORSE and then whatever fuck this I'm either addicted or I'm gonna escape and live a good long life.

    It's release something unique, develop a stable core player population, continue development at the rate that population can fund, lol 10 years later game is still running and more successful than ever.

    This is true for EVE, 100%.

    Sadly this is not true for Dust 514, that turned out to be very generic. I mean, yes, it has a persistent world but so does Destiny and The Division so its not that special on that front.

    You played it what, in beta? Even now they're only just scratching the surface of the stuff they're going to add.

    I want more time spent on World of Darkness, to be honest.

    They were overextending themselves trying to do prelaunch development on both Dust and WoD. Once is Dust is solidly up and running they'll expand the WoD dev team.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    this texas stuff is just nuts

    to offer lighter fare, getting a few mason jars and picking your own veggies (and certain fruits!) is a super cheap way to make your own cheap, delicious snacks

    Do you have some sort of guide to pickling I could use?

    pickling is super easy

    everyone has their own recipe, but mostly it comes down to vinegar, sugar, mustard seed, cinnamon (or allspice/jamaican pepper) and bay leaf, and everything else is preference

    (btw, the same basic premise applies for brining meats)

    you want your pickles (my faves being cucumbers, peppers, and fennel) to sit in the brine long enough that the vinegar breaks them down a bit and infuses the brine flavor in them

    once you get that down, you can branch out and make stuff like salsas

    pickled jalapeño and red onion salsa is one of the spiciest things ever if you let it sit for long enough, but GOD DAMN it is so delicious

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    evilbob wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    You are as optimistic about Dust as he is about Destiny.

    Dust is pulling in revenue and developed by a company that has a good track record for this stuff.

    Destiny is being made by Bungie, who long ago had to reinforce their plumbing because they shit solid gold. Nobody is going to lose money on Destiny.

    Hint: they don't need to lose money for it to stop being worth continuing development long before 10 years is up.

    no it just needs to stop raking it in by the shovelful.

    which if they manage to get even close to another halo, it won't

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Thanks Poldy.

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    PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    Kalkino wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    this texas stuff is just nuts

    to offer lighter fare, getting a few mason jars and picking your own veggies (and certain fruits!) is a super cheap way to make your own cheap, delicious snacks

    Do you pickle garlic?

    no but that sounds delicious!

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    the hamfinding was unsuccessful, m_j?
    It remains on my to do list. Maybe I could have stolen one from the ham, wine and parmesan cellar last night. I would have had to fight that man for it though and he had a knife

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    ... so they did just edit the legal logging of their votes.

    How fucking skeevy does this have to get before the federal government can step in and smack them about the head and shoulders?

    Are they betting on "as skeevy as they fucking want" based on today's SCOTUS ruling?

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    the threat of a low-level democratic body being hijacked by an organized concentrated interest because its local opposition is too diffuse is an omnipresent one

    the only real permanent cure is to dissolve the body and revert its powers to a sufficiently senior level of representation, such that elected representatives are actually representative, due to a diffusion of interest imposed by sheer size

    all American states are arguably too small, even California and Texas, since both tend to be dominated by one of their national parties each. But "dissolve Texas" is hardly going to be on the average American's political horizon.

    The problem is that sufficient popular support in elections is unduly difficult by design of those in power.

    I'm sorry, if you're expecting even well-run democracies to continually probe for opposition, you're going to be permanently disappointed

    (for the sake of consistency, I should point out that I have argued before on [chat] that deliberately hampering populism under the weight of bureaucratic institutions is a big part of stabilizing a liberal welfare state. You want the kind of people who can mobilize "popular support" at local levels to stay far, far away from the reins of power. Only distant bureaucrats poll; all votes are driven by enthusiasm, and all local enthusiasm is driven by concentrated interest.)

    I would posit there's a difference between probing for opposition and rigging the system to ensure a lack of opposition.

    nope

    there is no body here that can deliver an uncontested opinion on just how much give an incumbent majority is obliged to let the loyal opposition have

    noting that your country has vigorous notions on what constitute legitimate kinds of electoral districts to begin with, and won't readily tolerate, e.g., non-geographical seats. I have no clue why you think this stuff has some simple uncontested point of fairness.

    I don't think you have a firm grasp on how districting works in practice in the US maybe?

    Gerrymandering isn't just some dream someone came up with to explain why Republicans continue to control legislatures with less than a majority of votes.

    I know what gerrymandering is, thanks

    I also know that your country cannot tolerate any of the 'mathematical' solutions because of ethnic enfranchisement concerns, but won't tolerate dedicated non-geographical ethnic representation either, or non-equal votes of representatives

    so, out of a balance of political imperatives, you've wound up with a system where continual adjustment of electoral boundaries is necessary, and you are shocked, shocked! that this has forced your governments to retain archaic politicking over the drawing of these boundaries

    Are you seriously just saying DWI in regards to how fucked up our legislature is?

    I really don't get your point here, unless it's just dismissive, wanking pragmatism.

    no, I am asking you to accept that there is no uncontested level of obligation toward the opposition in American political culture, because (for complicated reasons) all the systems where such a level of obligation would either be cleanly identified or would not be necessary are all intolerable

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Alright, it's 1:30 and I'm tired. Time to sleep. @ me if they actually decide anything tonight.

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
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    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    You are as optimistic about Dust as he is about Destiny.

    Dust is pulling in revenue and developed by a company that has a good track record for this stuff.

    Destiny is being made by Bungie, who long ago had to reinforce their plumbing because they shit solid gold. Nobody is going to lose money on Destiny.

    Hint: they don't need to lose money for it to stop being worth continuing development long before 10 years is up.

    no it just needs to stop raking it in by the shovelful.

    which if they manage to get even close to another halo, it won't

    How long did they continue post release development on Halo?

    or Halo 2?

    or Halo 3?

    or Halo ODST?

    or Halo Reach?

    Halo 4?

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
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    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    the threat of a low-level democratic body being hijacked by an organized concentrated interest because its local opposition is too diffuse is an omnipresent one

    the only real permanent cure is to dissolve the body and revert its powers to a sufficiently senior level of representation, such that elected representatives are actually representative, due to a diffusion of interest imposed by sheer size

    all American states are arguably too small, even California and Texas, since both tend to be dominated by one of their national parties each. But "dissolve Texas" is hardly going to be on the average American's political horizon.

    The problem is that sufficient popular support in elections is unduly difficult by design of those in power.

    I'm sorry, if you're expecting even well-run democracies to continually probe for opposition, you're going to be permanently disappointed

    (for the sake of consistency, I should point out that I have argued before on [chat] that deliberately hampering populism under the weight of bureaucratic institutions is a big part of stabilizing a liberal welfare state. You want the kind of people who can mobilize "popular support" at local levels to stay far, far away from the reins of power. Only distant bureaucrats poll; all votes are driven by enthusiasm, and all local enthusiasm is driven by concentrated interest.)

    I would posit there's a difference between probing for opposition and rigging the system to ensure a lack of opposition.

    nope

    there is no body here that can deliver an uncontested opinion on just how much give an incumbent majority is obliged to let the loyal opposition have

    noting that your country has vigorous notions on what constitute legitimate kinds of electoral districts to begin with, and won't readily tolerate, e.g., non-geographical seats. I have no clue why you think this stuff has some simple uncontested point of fairness.

    I don't think you have a firm grasp on how districting works in practice in the US maybe?

    Gerrymandering isn't just some dream someone came up with to explain why Republicans continue to control legislatures with less than a majority of votes.

    I know what gerrymandering is, thanks

    I also know that your country cannot tolerate any of the 'mathematical' solutions because of ethnic enfranchisement concerns, but won't tolerate dedicated non-geographical ethnic representation either, or non-equal votes of representatives

    so, out of a balance of political imperatives, you've wound up with a system where continual adjustment of electoral boundaries is necessary, and you are shocked, shocked! that this has forced your governments to retain archaic politicking over the drawing of these boundaries

    Are you seriously just saying DWI in regards to how fucked up our legislature is?

    I really don't get your point here, unless it's just dismissive, wanking pragmatism.

    no, I am asking you to accept that there is no uncontested level of obligation toward the opposition in American political culture, because (for complicated reasons) all the systems where such a level of obligation would either be cleanly identified or would not be necessary are all intolerable

    ergo ____ ?

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    MillMill Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    evilbob wrote: »
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    My plan back in the day was to make a dedicated mining account in EvE, and use it to pay for its own monthly game time and just send the excess straight to my mercenary in Dust 514.

    But then Dust 514 turned out to be really bad.

    That is a bad plan for a whole host of reasons.

    Also, give dust time.

    CCP develop games on very different timescale to other developers.

    Eh, by the time they have it anywhere near something fun Destiny, The Division and Titanfall will all be out. And even with huge improvement Dust 514 won't be able to touch any of those.

    And when those games are dead and gone Dust will still be there with bigger player population than ever.

    Destiny is going to be around for a decade so, that is a long ways out.

    You are mightily optimistic.

    That is Destiny's stated gameplan, according to Bungie and Activision. Halo went for for a decade so I don't see why Destiny shouldn't

    Strange, I don't remember anyone still playing Halo 1 in 2011.

    Destiny is a series of games, you know, like mass effect. No need to be intentionally obtuse.

    I really need to do a better job at keeping up to date on Destiny since it's one of the games that has piqued my interest. I didn't realize they were going to make it a series of games instead of an MMO with possible expansions if it does well enough.

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