So, I'm a weird one when it comes to X-Men comics. Blink has and will always be my absolute favorite mutant. Ever since she wrecked pretty much everyone's face in Age of Apocolypse (particularly her complete and utter defeat of Holocaust), I've been a number one fan of Blink. Seeing her powers used as creatively as they were was a real treat for me. I was grinning ear to ear. A shame we didn't get to know her too, but there wasn't time. Maybe we'll see her again now...actually, looking at Blink's Wiki, it says that Simon Kinberg is saying that we will see Blink again in X-Men: Apocolypse. That's exciting.
Blink was awesome in the movie. Actually, all of the action scenes were great. They looked like the scenes looked in my head back when I was just a kid reading the comics.
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Regarding Quicksilver. This might be the time where the MCU will end up worse.
Or they could both end up amazing.
I'm sure Pietro in Avengers 2 will great.
Cap 2 Spoilahs
The little glimpse we've seen of him in Cap 2 didn't look like he was having fun with his powers. More tortured soul type. Can't see him doing the same stuff as DoFP Quicksilver :P
The concept art was him using his wake as a weapon, could totally see some Man of Steel style super speed POV stuff.
So, I'm a weird one when it comes to X-Men comics. Blink has and will always be my absolute favorite mutant. Ever since she wrecked pretty much everyone's face in Age of Apocolypse (particularly her complete and utter defeat of Holocaust), I've been a number one fan of Blink. Seeing her powers used as creatively as they were was a real treat for me. I was grinning ear to ear. A shame we didn't get to know her too, but there wasn't time. Maybe we'll see her again now...actually, looking at Blink's Wiki, it says that Simon Kinberg is saying that we will see Blink again in X-Men: Apocolypse. That's exciting.
Regarding Quicksilver. This might be the time where the MCU will end up worse.
Or they could both end up amazing.
I'm sure Pietro in Avengers 2 will great.
Cap 2 Spoilahs
The little glimpse we've seen of him in Cap 2 didn't look like he was having fun with his powers. More tortured soul type. Can't see him doing the same stuff as DoFP Quicksilver :P
The concept art was him using his wake as a weapon, could totally see some Man of Steel style super speed POV stuff.
This is true, but then again, this is closer to the comic book version of Quicksilver. In the comics, he's sort of a tortured, overprotective, angsty, jerk. (What do you expect when your father is a serial murdering psychopath)
Regarding Quicksilver. This might be the time where the MCU will end up worse.
Or they could both end up amazing.
I'm sure Pietro in Avengers 2 will great.
Cap 2 Spoilahs
The little glimpse we've seen of him in Cap 2 didn't look like he was having fun with his powers. More tortured soul type. Can't see him doing the same stuff as DoFP Quicksilver :P
The concept art was him using his wake as a weapon, could totally see some Man of Steel style super speed POV stuff.
This is true, but then again, this is closer to the comic book version of Quicksilver. In the comics, he's sort of a tortured, overprotective, angsty, jerk. (What do you expect when your father is a serial murdering psychopath)
It's disappointing how the X-men was the only movie series that can have the Maximoff's being Magneto's children and didn't touch it. I'd have liked the Maximoffs to be in the Brotherhood for a while. Oh well. At least Whedon is going to explore that side of their history.
The way they established Kitty's time travel power (PFFFT) was that it's like editing a document. Nothing changes until you close the program. While Kitty is maintaining the connection, nothing changes, and the time traveller has to make the change in real time relevant to Kitty. Once the connection is severed (because Wolverine died) the change is made and the Future timeline is replaced with the happy one at the school. Future Wolverine's conciousness tries to go back to the Future where it belongs, but that future is now the happy one, so it goes there and overwrites the natural progression Wolverine's timeline. They'd probably sort of merge and he'd get those memories back, but hey - Wolverine has always had amnesia trubs, it's nothing new. :P
I was kinda bummed Kitty was nowhere to be seen in the Happy future, and Rogue was back with Iceman. Also they both appeared to still be students?
Exactly. It worked just like she said it would.
To your last point:
She was there. She was teaching a class with Colossus (probably setting them up as the good future couple)
And the reason the fact that people in the past would not know is because of PARADOX prevention
What Paradox?
They all lived the events that happened in 1973. It would seem a lot stranger to me if they suddenly forgot them all. "Hey Beast... Why did we do all that stuff yesterday?" "I dunno... Some guy maybe? I don't remember."
4. Old Magneto looked TOO old for me. But that isn't their fault (Ian is getting up there in age).
He's a Holocaust survivor living in 2023. Dude would be at least in his nineties.
Indeed. But then that opens up things with New Magneto. Going by your definition, if he is in his 90's then, that means in 1973 he is in his 40's. Which he certainly doesn't look like.
He just seemed 'shakey', for lack of a better term, which kind of ruined the whole 'ultimately powerful badass' thing.
Also on that same sort of point (but not really)
Couldn't they get the Sentinel's to copy Colossus, which would then allow Magneto to use his powers on them?
Or couldn't Magneto just spear them with metal? He seemed kind of useless too be honest.
That was sort of the point, though. Xavier and Magneto are so old at that point that they just aren't what they used to be. They can't fight off waves and waves of enemies as they could have before. This is Magneto at the end of his life, and what you see him do in that fight is literally the last bit of power he can muster.
The way they established Kitty's time travel power (PFFFT) was that it's like editing a document. Nothing changes until you close the program. While Kitty is maintaining the connection, nothing changes, and the time traveller has to make the change in real time relevant to Kitty. Once the connection is severed (because Wolverine died) the change is made and the Future timeline is replaced with the happy one at the school. Future Wolverine's conciousness tries to go back to the Future where it belongs, but that future is now the happy one, so it goes there and overwrites the natural progression Wolverine's timeline. They'd probably sort of merge and he'd get those memories back, but hey - Wolverine has always had amnesia trubs, it's nothing new. :P
I was kinda bummed Kitty was nowhere to be seen in the Happy future, and Rogue was back with Iceman. Also they both appeared to still be students?
Exactly. It worked just like she said it would.
To your last point:
She was there. She was teaching a class with Colossus (probably setting them up as the good future couple)
And the reason the fact that people in the past would not know is because of PARADOX prevention
What Paradox?
They all lived the events that happened in 1973. It would seem a lot stranger to me if they suddenly forgot them all. "Hey Beast... Why did we do all that stuff yesterday?" "I dunno... Some guy maybe? I don't remember."
4. Old Magneto looked TOO old for me. But that isn't their fault (Ian is getting up there in age).
He's a Holocaust survivor living in 2023. Dude would be at least in his nineties.
Indeed. But then that opens up things with New Magneto. Going by your definition, if he is in his 90's then, that means in 1973 he is in his 40's. Which he certainly doesn't look like.
He just seemed 'shakey', for lack of a better term, which kind of ruined the whole 'ultimately powerful badass' thing.
Also on that same sort of point (but not really)
Couldn't they get the Sentinel's to copy Colossus, which would then allow Magneto to use his powers on them?
Or couldn't Magneto just spear them with metal? He seemed kind of useless too be honest.
That was sort of the point, though. Xavier and Magneto are so old at that point that they just aren't what they used to be. They can't fight off waves and waves of enemies as they could have before. This is Magneto at the end of his life, and what you see him do in that fight is literally the last bit of power he can muster.
Xavier's powerless with Sentinels. They're robots and immune to telepathy.
The way they established Kitty's time travel power (PFFFT) was that it's like editing a document. Nothing changes until you close the program. While Kitty is maintaining the connection, nothing changes, and the time traveller has to make the change in real time relevant to Kitty. Once the connection is severed (because Wolverine died) the change is made and the Future timeline is replaced with the happy one at the school. Future Wolverine's conciousness tries to go back to the Future where it belongs, but that future is now the happy one, so it goes there and overwrites the natural progression Wolverine's timeline. They'd probably sort of merge and he'd get those memories back, but hey - Wolverine has always had amnesia trubs, it's nothing new. :P
I was kinda bummed Kitty was nowhere to be seen in the Happy future, and Rogue was back with Iceman. Also they both appeared to still be students?
Exactly. It worked just like she said it would.
To your last point:
She was there. She was teaching a class with Colossus (probably setting them up as the good future couple)
And the reason the fact that people in the past would not know is because of PARADOX prevention
What Paradox?
They all lived the events that happened in 1973. It would seem a lot stranger to me if they suddenly forgot them all. "Hey Beast... Why did we do all that stuff yesterday?" "I dunno... Some guy maybe? I don't remember."
4. Old Magneto looked TOO old for me. But that isn't their fault (Ian is getting up there in age).
He's a Holocaust survivor living in 2023. Dude would be at least in his nineties.
Indeed. But then that opens up things with New Magneto. Going by your definition, if he is in his 90's then, that means in 1973 he is in his 40's. Which he certainly doesn't look like.
He just seemed 'shakey', for lack of a better term, which kind of ruined the whole 'ultimately powerful badass' thing.
Also on that same sort of point (but not really)
Couldn't they get the Sentinel's to copy Colossus, which would then allow Magneto to use his powers on them?
Or couldn't Magneto just spear them with metal? He seemed kind of useless too be honest.
That was sort of the point, though. Xavier and Magneto are so old at that point that they just aren't what they used to be. They can't fight off waves and waves of enemies as they could have before. This is Magneto at the end of his life, and what you see him do in that fight is literally the last bit of power he can muster.
Xavier's powerless with Sentinels. They're robots and immune to telepathy.
Well yeah. I was referring to Magneto specifically. We don't really get to see how powerful old Xavier is.
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I don't think Magneto was weaker in his old age. Just a few years before this he ripped the Golden Gate bridge off the ground, then carried it a couple miles like it was no thing.
At first glance I thought he'd dropped the ball with his shield and let some shrapnel through, but it's actually probably a bit of plastic Sentinel that gets through, eh?
Such a great moment right before that scene; Sentinels are coming, Magneto and the Prof look at each other, don't say anything, he walks off, probably to his death, to buy them a few more minutes.
I loooove that little bit with him and Xavier after he comes back and collapses. "All those years, wasted, fighting each other..."
If Mystic was captured in timeline A by stark industries, then how is she the original xmen movies.
Also doesnt she have the ability to change how she looks so she wouldnt actually gain whoevers powers she looks like. So how does capturing her give the sentinels the ability to mimic everyones powers.
Also how does she change mass, she changes into a dwarf so does her body compress itself, also how does she grow clothing? Shouldnt she just transform into naked female versions of old french men with out a suit on.
-She escaped or was rescued before they decided they didn't need her alive anymore
-Studying her adaptive cells lead the designers to eventually figure out how to adapt more than appearence
-How does she shape shift at all? Where does wolverine get the energy to rapid heal? Or Magneto get the energy to generate a force field big enough to lift a stadium?
X-gene is magic in all but name, don't read into it too much
If Mystic was captured in timeline A by stark industries, then how is she the original xmen movies.
Also doesnt she have the ability to change how she looks so she wouldnt actually gain whoevers powers she looks like. So how does capturing her give the sentinels the ability to mimic everyones powers.
Also how does she change mass, she changes into a dwarf so does her body compress itself, also how does she grow clothing? Shouldnt she just transform into naked female versions of old french men with out a suit on.
-She escaped or was rescued before they decided they didn't need her alive anymore
-Studying her adaptive cells lead the designers to eventually figure out how to adapt more than appearence
-How does she shape shift at all? Where does wolverine get the energy to rapid heal? Or Magneto get the energy to generate a force field big enough to lift a stadium?
X-gene is magic in all but name, don't read into it too much
I don't think Magneto was weaker in his old age. Just a few years before this he ripped the Golden Gate bridge off the ground, then carried it a couple miles like it was no thing.
At first glance I thought he'd dropped the ball with his shield and let some shrapnel through, but it's actually probably a bit of plastic Sentinel that gets through, eh?
Such a great moment right before that scene; Sentinels are coming, Magneto and the Prof look at each other, don't say anything, he walks off, probably to his death, to buy them a few more minutes.
I loooove that little bit with him and Xavier after he comes back and collapses. "All those years, wasted, fighting each other..."
Watched it a second time today, still really enjoyed it.
I'm surprised at how funny a movie it is, I haven't laughed so hard in an action film in such a long time.
Also McAvoy is bringing some top notch game to Professor X. I was kind of annoyed how different his portrayal was then Stewarts, but I noticed a shift from Rock and Roll Telepath to Somber introspective professor.
The way they established Kitty's time travel power (PFFFT) was that it's like editing a document. Nothing changes until you close the program. While Kitty is maintaining the connection, nothing changes, and the time traveller has to make the change in real time relevant to Kitty. Once the connection is severed (because Wolverine died) the change is made and the Future timeline is replaced with the happy one at the school. Future Wolverine's conciousness tries to go back to the Future where it belongs, but that future is now the happy one, so it goes there and overwrites the natural progression Wolverine's timeline. They'd probably sort of merge and he'd get those memories back, but hey - Wolverine has always had amnesia trubs, it's nothing new. :P
I was kinda bummed Kitty was nowhere to be seen in the Happy future, and Rogue was back with Iceman. Also they both appeared to still be students?
Exactly. It worked just like she said it would.
To your last point:
She was there. She was teaching a class with Colossus (probably setting them up as the good future couple)
And the reason the fact that people in the past would not know is because of PARADOX prevention
What Paradox?
They all lived the events that happened in 1973. It would seem a lot stranger to me if they suddenly forgot them all. "Hey Beast... Why did we do all that stuff yesterday?" "I dunno... Some guy maybe? I don't remember."
4. Old Magneto looked TOO old for me. But that isn't their fault (Ian is getting up there in age).
He's a Holocaust survivor living in 2023. Dude would be at least in his nineties.
Indeed. But then that opens up things with New Magneto. Going by your definition, if he is in his 90's then, that means in 1973 he is in his 40's. Which he certainly doesn't look like.
He just seemed 'shakey', for lack of a better term, which kind of ruined the whole 'ultimately powerful badass' thing.
Also on that same sort of point (but not really)
Couldn't they get the Sentinel's to copy Colossus, which would then allow Magneto to use his powers on them?
Or couldn't Magneto just spear them with metal? He seemed kind of useless too be honest.
That was sort of the point, though. Xavier and Magneto are so old at that point that they just aren't what they used to be. They can't fight off waves and waves of enemies as they could have before. This is Magneto at the end of his life, and what you see him do in that fight is literally the last bit of power he can muster.
Xavier's powerless with Sentinels. They're robots and immune to telepathy.
Well yeah. I was referring to Magneto specifically. We don't really get to see how powerful old Xavier is.
Didn't Magneto lose his powers at the end of X3? Maybe he didn't get them all back.
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I never bother asking questions of scale when it comes to powers. The answer to the question of, "How strong is X?" is always, "As strong as they need it to be." The Flash went from a guy who runs fast into becoming a god-like figure, arguably more powerful than Superman. The Hulk went from a super strong soldier to basically being able to physically jump out of planetary orbit. Didn't Cyclops's eye beams change from being "kinetic lasers" into some sort of hyperspace portal into a dimension of infinite energy or something?
You know, it's kind of surprising how much I vaguely know of these things even thoughI don't even read comic books.
gone back to the past some unknown but multiple times after seeing everyone he knows wiped out violently. Over and over with just a few days each time to recover. He's got to be a complete and utter mental mess at that point.
gone back to the past some unknown but multiple times after seeing everyone he knows wiped out violently. Over and over with just a few days each time to recover. He's got to be a complete and utter mental mess at that point.
To be fair
He didn't actually see them wiped out in the scene we saw. He was in a different room at the time and I'd assume he usually is since they need to keep him away from the Sentinels long enough for him to go back in time. It would probably still mess him up, but not as much as actually seeing them killed.
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The best thing DOFP did, hands down, was give Halle Berry nothing to do but mutant stuff. Did she even talk? I can't remember. That alone is glorious.
She had one line. i remember thinking "weird didn't she win an oscar and she gets one line?"
did they actually shoot the "break rouge out of a cell" scene we heard about? I wonder how much was shot and not used? This is the first movie in a long time I would like a 3+ hour cut of.
She had one line. i remember thinking "weird didn't she win an oscar and she gets one line?"
did they actually shoot the "break rouge out of a cell" scene we heard about? I wonder how much was shot and not used? This is the first movie in a long time I would like a 3+ hour cut of.
And I hope they shot more scenes with Trask. He really wasn't in enough of the film and all the scenes he's in are good.
Even though they don't give him that many scenes, I like how he wasn't just some crazy prejudiced asshole who hates mutants for no reason. I would have liked it if they resolved his arc like they did in the comics and the cartoons and have him go through a change of heart.
Directed by Bryan Singer, X-Men: Days of Future Past is the thirty-seventh in 20th Century Fox’s series of X-Men films based on the Marvel Comics franchise originated by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. It is owing to the series’ bitterly old age that the new film is almost totally devoted to reconciling the conflicting plots and divergent timelines of its predecessors. In this very hilarious way, Days of Future Past is the most faithful adaptation to date, having actually translated to film that most core concept of X-Men comics: hopelessly confusing and eternally jacked up continuity.
The film opens in a grim future where there is only war, but one slightly more distinct than other grim futures where there is only war because of Singer’s prodigious use of the color purple. It is in this dark dystopia that we’re treated to the first of the film’s many very clever superpower fight sequences when purple Sentinels besiege a team of X-Men running around and doing something. On account of a bunch of nonsense that will be explained later, the Sentinels are able to mimic any mutant ability — except, for some reason, those of the mutant Blink, who has the very useful power to open purple portals to seemingly anywhere in the general vicinity. This provides the film with some truly cool fight moves, with mutants and Sentinels and energy blasts and Icemen and all manner of things jumping in and out of Blink’s doorways as all hell breaks loose in very entertaining ways.
Fortunately it’s all for naught and we get to see the Sentinels violently kill a bunch of lousy leather-clad X-Men audiences have been waiting to see die for the last forty-four years of mutant movies, and they do so in occasionally ironic ways like burning Iceman alive or freezing Pyro to death (or was it Sunspot? Some fire guy). Sadly, it turns out fine for the X-Men since, apparently, Kitty Pryde has the power to send Bishop’s consciousness a few days back in time and into his younger body to warn the others that the Sentinels are going to kill them in a big set piece, allowing the X-Men to avoid that fate and survive for most of the rest of the movie.
The Sentinels have utterly ruined the world by eradicating nearly the entire mutant race as well as most decent normals, leaving only the nastiest people in charge. It occurs to old Professor X and old Magneto that Kitty’s powers could be used to send someone back in time 50 years to stop the Sentinels before they were created, for so grim is the grim future where there is only war that its X-Men would rather be erased from existence than live another day explaining Kitty Pryde’s powers to each other.
Indeed, in what is doubtlessly the most abusive expository dialogue in the history of comic book films, old Professor X explains to old Wolverine how he’s going to employ Kitty to send Logan’s consciousness back in time and into his younger body and that time will continue to pass normally in the present (the future) even as Wolverine changes events in the past (the present-ish), but those changes will only take effect when Wolverine wakes up again in the future (the new present), but he will still remember everything that happened because bzzzzzzzzztt
In the Days of Future Past comic book, it was Kitty Pryde who was sent back to the past by Rachel “Not Appearing in This Film” Summers to save the future. In this film, it’s decided that Wolverine will be the one to go back via Kitty Pryde, because his brain is the most physically durable (even though he has a long history of being brainwashed and mind wiped) and also because of sexism.
The Sentinels have utterly ruined the world by eradicating nearly the entire mutant race as well as most decent normals, leaving only the nastiest people in charge. It occurs to old Professor X and old Magneto that Kitty’s powers could be used to send someone back in time 50 years to stop the Sentinels before they were created, for so grim is the grim future where there is only war that its X-Men would rather be erased from existence than live another day explaining Kitty Pryde’s powers to each other.
Indeed, in what is doubtlessly the most abusive expository dialogue in the history of comic book films, old Professor X explains to old Wolverine how he’s going to employ Kitty to send Logan’s consciousness back in time and into his younger body and that time will continue to pass normally in the present (the future) even as Wolverine changes events in the past (the present-ish), but those changes will only take effect when Wolverine wakes up again in the future (the new present), but he will still remember everything that happened because bzzzzzzzzztt
In the Days of Future Past comic book, it was Kitty Pryde who was sent back to the past by Rachel “Not Appearing in This Film” Summers to save the future. In this film, it’s decided that Wolverine will be the one to go back via Kitty Pryde, because his brain is the most physically durable (even though he has a long history of being brainwashed and mind wiped) and also because of sexism.
Wolverine lays all his cards on the table, telling the Professor that he’s only here because old Professor sent him and implores the man to get a job remember his dream of uniting humans and mutants. Unfortunately for Wolverine, Xavier can’t help but remember the greatest single-serving PG-13 F-bomb of all time, and tells Wolverine what to go do with himself. However, seeing a glamour shot of J-Law on his bedside table reminds Xavier of how much he loves his friend and he agrees to help Wolverine stop her from indirectly annihilating all mutantkind.
Meanwhile, in the future, Academy Award nominee Ellen Page grimaces sweatily.
The next step in Wolverine’s mission is to reunite Xavier with Magneto, who we’re told has been locked up in a jail of concrete and glass deep beneath the Pentagon for the last ten years for the crime of killing John F. Kennedy. The “magic bullet” wasn’t magic — it was magnetic, see? But Wolverine is Canadian so he resolves to break Magneto out anyway.
(Magneto will later claim to be innocent, that he was trying to stop the bullet but was himself stopped, which resulted in JFK’s… accidental death? Also he said JFK was a mutant. Just kind of threw it out there….)
Determining that stupid bone claws and a guy who can turn into a blue ape are insufficient means with which to infiltrate the Pentagon, Wolverine recruits one of the worst ever superheroes to help them out: Quicksilver. Known throughout comics history as a sh*tty knockoff of the Flash and an enduring symbol of Marvel Zombiesm, Quicksilver is rubbish. He sucks. He looks like an complete a**hole and that he’s ended up in two unconnected but equally massive film franchises is testament to the chaotic absurdity of existence.
But he’s the best part of Days of Future Past, which undermines my earlier claim that Days of Future Past is the most faithful adaptation of the X-Men comics, for if it were truly reverent to the source material, then Quicksilver would be laughably awful at everything he does. But on the contrary, he’s marvelous. Evan Peters’ performance is charming, fearless and funny. It seems extremely unlikely that the new Flash television show, as promising as it looks, will put forth anything as thrilling and just plain cool as Quicksilver’s rescue of Magneto and the others from Pentagon security.
Even this film can’t; the sequence is without question the highlight, with Quicksilver running so fast that he sets up a kind of super-Rube-Goldberg trap using his enemies’ own relatively still bodies. The heroes blink and Quicksilver’s already sorted it out with more cleverness and style than every mutant in this whole film series combined. Quicksilver is in fact so useful that Wolverine has to send him back home to Mrs. Maximoff before he steals the rest of the damn movie.
When not focusing on Team Wolverine, Days of Future Past tracks Mystique’s mission to avenge the off-screen deaths of everyone missing from First Class. Jennifer Lawrence has become a superstar since playing Mystique in that film, and Days of Future Past is wise to avail itself of her ability to express a strong sense of rage and anguish that does help anchor this crazy story in some kind of emotional way. Xavier and Magneto are ultimately fighting as much over Mystique’s soul as they are about their philosophies about mutant-human relations, and it’s the choices their student Mystique will make that represent the way their race’s future will unfold.
But for the moment Mystique is persecuted and pissed, and her psychic pendulum has swung far from Xavier’s form of passive resistance to Magneto’s militant revolution. She falls upon Boliver Trask with designs on murder, but she’s stopped by Wolverine and company, who quickly have to become her protectors when Magneto betrays them all and tries to kill Mystique. Ever the extremist, Magneto believes that only Mystique’s death can save the mutant race from the a grim future where there is only war.
The ensuing battle reveals the existence of mutants to the entire world, prompting President Nixon to approve Trask’s Sentinel plans. Both Magneto and Mystique escape the conflict, but some stray Mystique DNA left at the scene gives the inventor the spark of inspiration and, somehow, the technology he needs to develop the Sentinels’ mutant mimicking abilities, and it seems the grim future where there is only war is more certain than ever. Too bad they didn’t bring Quicksilver!
Meanwhile, in the future, Academy Award nominee Ellen Page grimaces sweatily.
Later in the Cerebro amphitheater, Xavier can’t find Mystique because he’s too weak and depressed to deal, man. But Wolverine has the eminently weird idea of inviting Xavier into his mind to send Xavier’s consciousness into old Logan’s body in the future and have a psychic conversation with his own older self. Naturally, old Xavier gives young Xavier a good old fashioned Picard pep talk, and it’s back on Mystique’s psychic trail.
The story comes to a head when Nixon and Trask make a big deal of unveiling the prototype Sentinels to a patriotic crowd on the White House lawn with the national anthem and everything, because that’s a thing that happens. The robots are several stories tall and come with a mutant-detecting Glade air freshener. You might wonder why, if they had Sentinels in 1973, did the government not deploy them for 40 or 50 years, but you forget about that because suddenly they start attacking people! It’s a result of Magneto clandestinely lacing their non-metal bodies with steel so that he could control them like enormous marionettes! While that’s going on, Magneto performs the coolest bit of action he’s done throughout the entire sixty-nine X-Men movies and lifts a whole stadium off the ground and drops it around the White House so nobody can get in or out (unless they’re in a plane or helicopter or something but luckily none of those show up to rescue the President — which is plausible because… Nixon).
See, having determined that a grim future where there is only war is inevitable, Magneto decides to go full-on villain and just go on TV with his hostage Nixon and tell everyone that mutants are here to take over and you’d better get used to it.
Meanwhile, in the future — something happens! The future Sentinels have located the X-Men’s hideout and start re-killing them in really entertaining ways. Wolverine had better be successful, because if his body dies in the future then his past conscious… do… it’s bad. Everyone will be f*cked, basically, unless Wolverine and his team can make sure George and Lorraine kiss at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance.
What that means in this movie is Magneto not assassinating yet another President of the United States on live television. Wolverine is powerless to stop it, though, for Magneto has impaled Logan with loads of rebars and thrown him into the Potomac River in a chilling foreshadowing of things to come for the indestructible mutant.
Magneto yanks the safe room under the Oval Office right out from the ground, tears it open and prepares to deprive the world of a Nixon to kick around anymore when, gasp, Nixon turns out to be Mystique in disguise. She brandishes a plastic gun designed specifically for use against the master of magnetism and shoots him non-fatally through the neck and kicks the sh*t out of him so that Xavier can psychically subdue the villain. Mystique then trains her gun on Trask, putting the grim future where there is only war in play once again.
In the grim future where there is only war, the Sentinels have breached the X-Men’s defenses and are moments away from killing Kitty and Logan.
Xavier makes a final plea to Mystique to do the right thing and defy Magneto. Beast begs Xavier to just take control of Mystique’s mind, but Xavier refuses, saying he has faith in his old friend to do the right thing. This demonstration of love and trust in the face of genocide persuades Mystique to let Trask live. Mystique leaves the scene a masterless mutant ronin with an uncertain future, perhaps no longer even destined to become Rebecca Ronin-Stamos. Xavier allows Magneto to walk away as well, for they already broke him out of prison in this movie, and allowing the government to capture him again would just mean another prison escape in X-Men: Apocalypse.
In the grim future where there is no longer war, everyone vanishes just before the Sentinels can make lethal contact with Kitty and Logan. Xavier got through to Mystique, and the war was stopped before it was begun.
Old Wolverine wakes up in a strangely familiar room. He emerges to discover the Xavier School has indeed survived 50 years into the future, with students buzzing about on their way to classes and all his dead co-stars from other movies still alive. You see, the events of this film have thrown those of the others into an amorphous state, where what did and did not happen is largely up to the writers of subsequent films, and where if you complain about not understanding what counts and whine about the series rebooting only two films after the last reboot, it means you’re just being an a**hole. You know, like how DC Comics does it.
This epilogue to Crisis on Infinite X-Men films is the best part of the movie after the Quicksilver sequence, for it is a truly emotional experience for the viewer to see that our point-of-view character, Wolverine — given his nature in the comics, possibly the most unlikely point-of-view character in superhero movie history — has made it back home safe and sound after all the harrowing adventures we’ve followed throughout this young century. Indeed, Logan’s touching reunion with the alive-and-well Jean Grey is the filmmakers’ acknowledgment of not just the uncommon lifespan of this franchise but also of the charismatic performance of Hugh Jackman, whose work has traversed the dark and primordial modern superhero movie model and found success in the more aesthetically interesting and comics-like landscape of today (some exceptions not withstanding).
But the epilogue also makes it plain that the filmmakers know these movies have been… not great, with the soft reboot First Class requiring a subsequent timeline sweep, and The Last Stand being so dire that Days of Future Past retcons it almost completely out of existence. Only we and our old friend Logan will ever remember.
The gears grind pretty hard in Days of Future Past’s plot, but probably no more so than most of these X-Men movies. What this film offers that the others arguably don’t is some genuine emotional resolution, and not just for its characters but for a franchise that’s been characterized by a distinct lack of emotion; a lack of life; a lack of vision. But in a paradoxical, metatextual way, this could not have been possible without putting these beloved characters and their audiences through those bad movie experiences.
While it was obviously created to clear the continuity path for subsequent films, this movie serves as an excellent conclusion to Fox’s X-Men franchise as we know it. Everyone is older, wiser, and back where they belong. The mutants survived. It’s the happy ending the characters deserve, and it would be a warm, safe place to leave them while a new creative direction is pursued — a truly new beginning.
But it won’t be, because we know Channing Tatum’s Gambit is coming up. We know that blue-skinned bro after the credits is Apocalypse. And we know Hugh Jackman may wish to say a final goodbye to his record-setting role. Despite whatever may be a more creatively interesting path for the X-Men, it would be impossible not to watch Jackman play this grizzled and scarred superhero into old age.
I never bother asking questions of scale when it comes to powers. The answer to the question of, "How strong is X?" is always, "As strong as they need it to be." The Flash went from a guy who runs fast into becoming a god-like figure, arguably more powerful than Superman. The Hulk went from a super strong soldier to basically being able to physically jump out of planetary orbit. Didn't Cyclops's eye beams change from being "kinetic lasers" into some sort of hyperspace portal into a dimension of infinite energy or something?
You know, it's kind of surprising how much I vaguely know of these things even thoughI don't even read comic books.
Hulk was always a behemouth of strength, capable of Golden Age Superman sort of feats like leaping the better part of a mile in a single jump, things like that. There are some silly early panels where he looks like his flying.
Fun fact: Cyclops' beams were origionally not hot. They were just kinetic force. Punch lasers from the punch dimension. Basically, if Cyclops was looking at you like he was going to hit you, he might already be doing that. You're dead on about flash though. Flash is rad now. Definately my favorite DC superhero. Especially since he's one of the last guys permitted to be both super and heroic over there at DC these days. Mostly even at the same time!
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Regarding Quicksilver. This might be the time where the MCU will end up worse.
Or they could both end up amazing.
I'm sure Pietro in Avengers 2 will great.
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The little glimpse we've seen of him in Cap 2 didn't look like he was having fun with his powers. More tortured soul type. Can't see him doing the same stuff as DoFP Quicksilver :P
The concept art was him using his wake as a weapon, could totally see some Man of Steel style super speed POV stuff.
This is true, but then again, this is closer to the comic book version of Quicksilver. In the comics, he's sort of a tortured, overprotective, angsty, jerk. (What do you expect when your father is a serial murdering psychopath)
It's disappointing how the X-men was the only movie series that can have the Maximoff's being Magneto's children and didn't touch it. I'd have liked the Maximoffs to be in the Brotherhood for a while. Oh well. At least Whedon is going to explore that side of their history.
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they do touch it. quicksilver says "oh hey this guy you're breaking out has magnetic powers? my mom knew a guy like that once!
hey may not know that, but it was probably "know" in the biblical sense. no clue where wanda is though.
I like Cyclops better with Kinetic energy beams rather than hot lasers.
Yeah, I think it was just poorly communicated by Kirby making the beams red. People think of red beams as being heat rays of some kind. Of course, if they were blue, maybe he'd have ice powers today. Comics are silly and associative like that (which is part of why I like them.)
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Wow. It turns out if you don't trust someone who says, "I hate comics. I think superheroes are stupid," to make an X-Men movie, you get a decent movie!
Who would've guessed?
I'm surprised that they went whole hog on the typical X-Men time travel bit. Props for pulling it off pretty convincingly.
Also, hahaha, fuck you Brett Ratner. Turns out that, no, it wasn't the source material that was the problem. Enjoy being the one shitty hack who couldn't produce a decent film in this franchise*, who had to be cleaned-up after via retconn.
*Not counting the awful Wolverine movies, because duh, of course those would be bad. Even the Wolverine comics were bad.
Wow. It turns out if you don't trust someone who says, "I hate comics. I think superheroes are stupid," to make an X-Men movie, you get a decent movie!
Who would've guessed?
I'm surprised that they went whole hog on the typical X-Men time travel bit. Props for pulling it off pretty convincingly.
Also, hahaha, fuck you Brett Ratner. Turns out that, no, it wasn't the source material that was the problem. Enjoy being the one shitty hack who couldn't produce a decent film in this franchise*, who had to be cleaned-up after via retconn.
*Not counting the awful Wolverine movies, because duh, of course those would be bad. Even the Wolverine comics were bad.
Wow. It turns out if you don't trust someone who says, "I hate comics. I think superheroes are stupid," to make an X-Men movie, you get a decent movie!
Who would've guessed?
I'm surprised that they went whole hog on the typical X-Men time travel bit. Props for pulling it off pretty convincingly.
Also, hahaha, fuck you Brett Ratner. Turns out that, no, it wasn't the source material that was the problem. Enjoy being the one shitty hack who couldn't produce a decent film in this franchise*, who had to be cleaned-up after via retconn.
*Not counting the awful Wolverine movies, because duh, of course those would be bad. Even the Wolverine comics were bad.
The Wolverine was good.
Ehh, I liked the first half of The Wolverine but thought the second half was pretty bad.
It handled the "plot twist" the worst possible way. You had characters who knew what was going on being evasive in scenes where there was no one to hide the information from.
Wow. It turns out if you don't trust someone who says, "I hate comics. I think superheroes are stupid," to make an X-Men movie, you get a decent movie!
Who would've guessed?
I'm surprised that they went whole hog on the typical X-Men time travel bit. Props for pulling it off pretty convincingly.
Also, hahaha, fuck you Brett Ratner. Turns out that, no, it wasn't the source material that was the problem. Enjoy being the one shitty hack who couldn't produce a decent film in this franchise*, who had to be cleaned-up after via retconn.
*Not counting the awful Wolverine movies, because duh, of course those would be bad. Even the Wolverine comics were bad.
The Wolverine was good.
Ehh, I liked the first half of The Wolverine but thought the second half was pretty bad.
It handled the "plot twist" the worst possible way. You had characters who knew what was going on being evasive in scenes where there was no one to hide the information from.
It was fun stupid comic book shit. A letdown from the previous half, of course. And a hell of a lot better than what X-men Origins: Wolverine did. But if they ever bring Sabertooth back they need to rehire Liev Schreiber.
Wow. It turns out if you don't trust someone who says, "I hate comics. I think superheroes are stupid," to make an X-Men movie, you get a decent movie!
Who would've guessed?
I'm surprised that they went whole hog on the typical X-Men time travel bit. Props for pulling it off pretty convincingly.
Also, hahaha, fuck you Brett Ratner. Turns out that, no, it wasn't the source material that was the problem. Enjoy being the one shitty hack who couldn't produce a decent film in this franchise*, who had to be cleaned-up after via retconn.
*Not counting the awful Wolverine movies, because duh, of course those would be bad. Even the Wolverine comics were bad.
The Wolverine was good.
I didn't see that one. 'The Pool' ended any and all of my desire to ever see another stand-alone Wolverine movie.
If that was spyke, why did they do the thing with the eyes?
Because they looked cool. Personally I'm curious why they made Spyke when they already had Marrow, but I presume it involved market research or some writer not remembering a low-profile character when he was created for the cartoon.
So, I'm a weird one when it comes to X-Men comics. Blink has and will always be my absolute favorite mutant. Ever since she wrecked pretty much everyone's face in Age of Apocolypse (particularly her complete and utter defeat of Holocaust), I've been a number one fan of Blink. Seeing her powers used as creatively as they were was a real treat for me. I was grinning ear to ear. A shame we didn't get to know her too, but there wasn't time. Maybe we'll see her again now...actually, looking at Blink's Wiki, it says that Simon Kinberg is saying that we will see Blink again in X-Men: Apocolypse. That's exciting.
Blink was awesome in the movie. Actually, all of the action scenes were great. They looked like the scenes looked in my head back when I was just a kid reading the comics.
Blink was, is, and ever shall be everyone's favorite dead character. And she will always be dead, or elseworlds'd, or otherwise NOT in regular continuity for very long. Which is probably some of her mystiqueappeal, the other half being "hot exotic-colored* chick with insanely abusable powers." I mean if the Portal games taught us anything they taught us how to use portals/teleportation to bend the freakin' world to our will.
*I've seen her go from steel-blue, through purple, into hot pink, and occasionally flirt with battleship grey.
So, I'm a weird one when it comes to X-Men comics. Blink has and will always be my absolute favorite mutant. Ever since she wrecked pretty much everyone's face in Age of Apocolypse (particularly her complete and utter defeat of Holocaust), I've been a number one fan of Blink. Seeing her powers used as creatively as they were was a real treat for me. I was grinning ear to ear. A shame we didn't get to know her too, but there wasn't time. Maybe we'll see her again now...actually, looking at Blink's Wiki, it says that Simon Kinberg is saying that we will see Blink again in X-Men: Apocolypse. That's exciting.
Blink was awesome in the movie. Actually, all of the action scenes were great. They looked like the scenes looked in my head back when I was just a kid reading the comics.
Blink was, is, and shall be everyone's favorite dead character. And she will always be dead, or elseworlds'd, or otherwise NOT in regular continuity. Which is probably some of her appeal, the other half being "hot exotic-colored* chick with insanely abusable powers." I mean if the Portal games taught us anything they taught us how to use portals/teleportation to bend the freakin' world to our will.
*I've seen her go from steel-blue, through purple, into hot pink, and occasionally be battleship grey.
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Blink was awesome in the movie. Actually, all of the action scenes were great. They looked like the scenes looked in my head back when I was just a kid reading the comics.
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The concept art was him using his wake as a weapon, could totally see some Man of Steel style super speed POV stuff.
This is true, but then again, this is closer to the comic book version of Quicksilver. In the comics, he's sort of a tortured, overprotective, angsty, jerk. (What do you expect when your father is a serial murdering psychopath)
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That was sort of the point, though. Xavier and Magneto are so old at that point that they just aren't what they used to be. They can't fight off waves and waves of enemies as they could have before. This is Magneto at the end of his life, and what you see him do in that fight is literally the last bit of power he can muster.
Well yeah. I was referring to Magneto specifically. We don't really get to see how powerful old Xavier is.
Such a great moment right before that scene; Sentinels are coming, Magneto and the Prof look at each other, don't say anything, he walks off, probably to his death, to buy them a few more minutes.
I loooove that little bit with him and Xavier after he comes back and collapses. "All those years, wasted, fighting each other..."
-Studying her adaptive cells lead the designers to eventually figure out how to adapt more than appearence
-How does she shape shift at all? Where does wolverine get the energy to rapid heal? Or Magneto get the energy to generate a force field big enough to lift a stadium?
X-gene is magic in all but name, don't read into it too much
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I'm surprised at how funny a movie it is, I haven't laughed so hard in an action film in such a long time.
Also McAvoy is bringing some top notch game to Professor X. I was kind of annoyed how different his portrayal was then Stewarts, but I noticed a shift from Rock and Roll Telepath to Somber introspective professor.
I'm pretty pumped for apocalypse as well.
Didn't Magneto lose his powers at the end of X3? Maybe he didn't get them all back.
You know, it's kind of surprising how much I vaguely know of these things even thoughI don't even read comic books.
To be fair
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did they actually shoot the "break rouge out of a cell" scene we heard about? I wonder how much was shot and not used? This is the first movie in a long time I would like a 3+ hour cut of.
heres a little infographic I made of the timelines involved in DoFP
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They definitely shot the scene.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=98220
And I hope they shot more scenes with Trask. He really wasn't in enough of the film and all the scenes he's in are good.
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The film opens in a grim future where there is only war, but one slightly more distinct than other grim futures where there is only war because of Singer’s prodigious use of the color purple. It is in this dark dystopia that we’re treated to the first of the film’s many very clever superpower fight sequences when purple Sentinels besiege a team of X-Men running around and doing something. On account of a bunch of nonsense that will be explained later, the Sentinels are able to mimic any mutant ability — except, for some reason, those of the mutant Blink, who has the very useful power to open purple portals to seemingly anywhere in the general vicinity. This provides the film with some truly cool fight moves, with mutants and Sentinels and energy blasts and Icemen and all manner of things jumping in and out of Blink’s doorways as all hell breaks loose in very entertaining ways.
Fortunately it’s all for naught and we get to see the Sentinels violently kill a bunch of lousy leather-clad X-Men audiences have been waiting to see die for the last forty-four years of mutant movies, and they do so in occasionally ironic ways like burning Iceman alive or freezing Pyro to death (or was it Sunspot? Some fire guy). Sadly, it turns out fine for the X-Men since, apparently, Kitty Pryde has the power to send Bishop’s consciousness a few days back in time and into his younger body to warn the others that the Sentinels are going to kill them in a big set piece, allowing the X-Men to avoid that fate and survive for most of the rest of the movie.
The Sentinels have utterly ruined the world by eradicating nearly the entire mutant race as well as most decent normals, leaving only the nastiest people in charge. It occurs to old Professor X and old Magneto that Kitty’s powers could be used to send someone back in time 50 years to stop the Sentinels before they were created, for so grim is the grim future where there is only war that its X-Men would rather be erased from existence than live another day explaining Kitty Pryde’s powers to each other.
Indeed, in what is doubtlessly the most abusive expository dialogue in the history of comic book films, old Professor X explains to old Wolverine how he’s going to employ Kitty to send Logan’s consciousness back in time and into his younger body and that time will continue to pass normally in the present (the future) even as Wolverine changes events in the past (the present-ish), but those changes will only take effect when Wolverine wakes up again in the future (the new present), but he will still remember everything that happened because bzzzzzzzzztt
In the Days of Future Past comic book, it was Kitty Pryde who was sent back to the past by Rachel “Not Appearing in This Film” Summers to save the future. In this film, it’s decided that Wolverine will be the one to go back via Kitty Pryde, because his brain is the most physically durable (even though he has a long history of being brainwashed and mind wiped) and also because of sexism.
The Sentinels have utterly ruined the world by eradicating nearly the entire mutant race as well as most decent normals, leaving only the nastiest people in charge. It occurs to old Professor X and old Magneto that Kitty’s powers could be used to send someone back in time 50 years to stop the Sentinels before they were created, for so grim is the grim future where there is only war that its X-Men would rather be erased from existence than live another day explaining Kitty Pryde’s powers to each other.
Indeed, in what is doubtlessly the most abusive expository dialogue in the history of comic book films, old Professor X explains to old Wolverine how he’s going to employ Kitty to send Logan’s consciousness back in time and into his younger body and that time will continue to pass normally in the present (the future) even as Wolverine changes events in the past (the present-ish), but those changes will only take effect when Wolverine wakes up again in the future (the new present), but he will still remember everything that happened because bzzzzzzzzztt
In the Days of Future Past comic book, it was Kitty Pryde who was sent back to the past by Rachel “Not Appearing in This Film” Summers to save the future. In this film, it’s decided that Wolverine will be the one to go back via Kitty Pryde, because his brain is the most physically durable (even though he has a long history of being brainwashed and mind wiped) and also because of sexism.
Wolverine lays all his cards on the table, telling the Professor that he’s only here because old Professor sent him and implores the man to get a job remember his dream of uniting humans and mutants. Unfortunately for Wolverine, Xavier can’t help but remember the greatest single-serving PG-13 F-bomb of all time, and tells Wolverine what to go do with himself. However, seeing a glamour shot of J-Law on his bedside table reminds Xavier of how much he loves his friend and he agrees to help Wolverine stop her from indirectly annihilating all mutantkind.
Meanwhile, in the future, Academy Award nominee Ellen Page grimaces sweatily.
The next step in Wolverine’s mission is to reunite Xavier with Magneto, who we’re told has been locked up in a jail of concrete and glass deep beneath the Pentagon for the last ten years for the crime of killing John F. Kennedy. The “magic bullet” wasn’t magic — it was magnetic, see? But Wolverine is Canadian so he resolves to break Magneto out anyway.
(Magneto will later claim to be innocent, that he was trying to stop the bullet but was himself stopped, which resulted in JFK’s… accidental death? Also he said JFK was a mutant. Just kind of threw it out there….)
Determining that stupid bone claws and a guy who can turn into a blue ape are insufficient means with which to infiltrate the Pentagon, Wolverine recruits one of the worst ever superheroes to help them out: Quicksilver. Known throughout comics history as a sh*tty knockoff of the Flash and an enduring symbol of Marvel Zombiesm, Quicksilver is rubbish. He sucks. He looks like an complete a**hole and that he’s ended up in two unconnected but equally massive film franchises is testament to the chaotic absurdity of existence.
But he’s the best part of Days of Future Past, which undermines my earlier claim that Days of Future Past is the most faithful adaptation of the X-Men comics, for if it were truly reverent to the source material, then Quicksilver would be laughably awful at everything he does. But on the contrary, he’s marvelous. Evan Peters’ performance is charming, fearless and funny. It seems extremely unlikely that the new Flash television show, as promising as it looks, will put forth anything as thrilling and just plain cool as Quicksilver’s rescue of Magneto and the others from Pentagon security.
Even this film can’t; the sequence is without question the highlight, with Quicksilver running so fast that he sets up a kind of super-Rube-Goldberg trap using his enemies’ own relatively still bodies. The heroes blink and Quicksilver’s already sorted it out with more cleverness and style than every mutant in this whole film series combined. Quicksilver is in fact so useful that Wolverine has to send him back home to Mrs. Maximoff before he steals the rest of the damn movie.
When not focusing on Team Wolverine, Days of Future Past tracks Mystique’s mission to avenge the off-screen deaths of everyone missing from First Class. Jennifer Lawrence has become a superstar since playing Mystique in that film, and Days of Future Past is wise to avail itself of her ability to express a strong sense of rage and anguish that does help anchor this crazy story in some kind of emotional way. Xavier and Magneto are ultimately fighting as much over Mystique’s soul as they are about their philosophies about mutant-human relations, and it’s the choices their student Mystique will make that represent the way their race’s future will unfold.
But for the moment Mystique is persecuted and pissed, and her psychic pendulum has swung far from Xavier’s form of passive resistance to Magneto’s militant revolution. She falls upon Boliver Trask with designs on murder, but she’s stopped by Wolverine and company, who quickly have to become her protectors when Magneto betrays them all and tries to kill Mystique. Ever the extremist, Magneto believes that only Mystique’s death can save the mutant race from the a grim future where there is only war.
The ensuing battle reveals the existence of mutants to the entire world, prompting President Nixon to approve Trask’s Sentinel plans. Both Magneto and Mystique escape the conflict, but some stray Mystique DNA left at the scene gives the inventor the spark of inspiration and, somehow, the technology he needs to develop the Sentinels’ mutant mimicking abilities, and it seems the grim future where there is only war is more certain than ever. Too bad they didn’t bring Quicksilver!
Meanwhile, in the future, Academy Award nominee Ellen Page grimaces sweatily.
Later in the Cerebro amphitheater, Xavier can’t find Mystique because he’s too weak and depressed to deal, man. But Wolverine has the eminently weird idea of inviting Xavier into his mind to send Xavier’s consciousness into old Logan’s body in the future and have a psychic conversation with his own older self. Naturally, old Xavier gives young Xavier a good old fashioned Picard pep talk, and it’s back on Mystique’s psychic trail.
The story comes to a head when Nixon and Trask make a big deal of unveiling the prototype Sentinels to a patriotic crowd on the White House lawn with the national anthem and everything, because that’s a thing that happens. The robots are several stories tall and come with a mutant-detecting Glade air freshener. You might wonder why, if they had Sentinels in 1973, did the government not deploy them for 40 or 50 years, but you forget about that because suddenly they start attacking people! It’s a result of Magneto clandestinely lacing their non-metal bodies with steel so that he could control them like enormous marionettes! While that’s going on, Magneto performs the coolest bit of action he’s done throughout the entire sixty-nine X-Men movies and lifts a whole stadium off the ground and drops it around the White House so nobody can get in or out (unless they’re in a plane or helicopter or something but luckily none of those show up to rescue the President — which is plausible because… Nixon).
See, having determined that a grim future where there is only war is inevitable, Magneto decides to go full-on villain and just go on TV with his hostage Nixon and tell everyone that mutants are here to take over and you’d better get used to it.
Meanwhile, in the future — something happens! The future Sentinels have located the X-Men’s hideout and start re-killing them in really entertaining ways. Wolverine had better be successful, because if his body dies in the future then his past conscious… do… it’s bad. Everyone will be f*cked, basically, unless Wolverine and his team can make sure George and Lorraine kiss at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance.
What that means in this movie is Magneto not assassinating yet another President of the United States on live television. Wolverine is powerless to stop it, though, for Magneto has impaled Logan with loads of rebars and thrown him into the Potomac River in a chilling foreshadowing of things to come for the indestructible mutant.
Magneto yanks the safe room under the Oval Office right out from the ground, tears it open and prepares to deprive the world of a Nixon to kick around anymore when, gasp, Nixon turns out to be Mystique in disguise. She brandishes a plastic gun designed specifically for use against the master of magnetism and shoots him non-fatally through the neck and kicks the sh*t out of him so that Xavier can psychically subdue the villain. Mystique then trains her gun on Trask, putting the grim future where there is only war in play once again.
In the grim future where there is only war, the Sentinels have breached the X-Men’s defenses and are moments away from killing Kitty and Logan.
Xavier makes a final plea to Mystique to do the right thing and defy Magneto. Beast begs Xavier to just take control of Mystique’s mind, but Xavier refuses, saying he has faith in his old friend to do the right thing. This demonstration of love and trust in the face of genocide persuades Mystique to let Trask live. Mystique leaves the scene a masterless mutant ronin with an uncertain future, perhaps no longer even destined to become Rebecca Ronin-Stamos. Xavier allows Magneto to walk away as well, for they already broke him out of prison in this movie, and allowing the government to capture him again would just mean another prison escape in X-Men: Apocalypse.
In the grim future where there is no longer war, everyone vanishes just before the Sentinels can make lethal contact with Kitty and Logan. Xavier got through to Mystique, and the war was stopped before it was begun.
Old Wolverine wakes up in a strangely familiar room. He emerges to discover the Xavier School has indeed survived 50 years into the future, with students buzzing about on their way to classes and all his dead co-stars from other movies still alive. You see, the events of this film have thrown those of the others into an amorphous state, where what did and did not happen is largely up to the writers of subsequent films, and where if you complain about not understanding what counts and whine about the series rebooting only two films after the last reboot, it means you’re just being an a**hole. You know, like how DC Comics does it.
This epilogue to Crisis on Infinite X-Men films is the best part of the movie after the Quicksilver sequence, for it is a truly emotional experience for the viewer to see that our point-of-view character, Wolverine — given his nature in the comics, possibly the most unlikely point-of-view character in superhero movie history — has made it back home safe and sound after all the harrowing adventures we’ve followed throughout this young century. Indeed, Logan’s touching reunion with the alive-and-well Jean Grey is the filmmakers’ acknowledgment of not just the uncommon lifespan of this franchise but also of the charismatic performance of Hugh Jackman, whose work has traversed the dark and primordial modern superhero movie model and found success in the more aesthetically interesting and comics-like landscape of today (some exceptions not withstanding).
But the epilogue also makes it plain that the filmmakers know these movies have been… not great, with the soft reboot First Class requiring a subsequent timeline sweep, and The Last Stand being so dire that Days of Future Past retcons it almost completely out of existence. Only we and our old friend Logan will ever remember.
The gears grind pretty hard in Days of Future Past’s plot, but probably no more so than most of these X-Men movies. What this film offers that the others arguably don’t is some genuine emotional resolution, and not just for its characters but for a franchise that’s been characterized by a distinct lack of emotion; a lack of life; a lack of vision. But in a paradoxical, metatextual way, this could not have been possible without putting these beloved characters and their audiences through those bad movie experiences.
While it was obviously created to clear the continuity path for subsequent films, this movie serves as an excellent conclusion to Fox’s X-Men franchise as we know it. Everyone is older, wiser, and back where they belong. The mutants survived. It’s the happy ending the characters deserve, and it would be a warm, safe place to leave them while a new creative direction is pursued — a truly new beginning.
But it won’t be, because we know Channing Tatum’s Gambit is coming up. We know that blue-skinned bro after the credits is Apocalypse. And we know Hugh Jackman may wish to say a final goodbye to his record-setting role. Despite whatever may be a more creatively interesting path for the X-Men, it would be impossible not to watch Jackman play this grizzled and scarred superhero into old age.
Hulk was always a behemouth of strength, capable of Golden Age Superman sort of feats like leaping the better part of a mile in a single jump, things like that. There are some silly early panels where he looks like his flying.
Fun fact: Cyclops' beams were origionally not hot. They were just kinetic force. Punch lasers from the punch dimension. Basically, if Cyclops was looking at you like he was going to hit you, he might already be doing that. You're dead on about flash though. Flash is rad now. Definately my favorite DC superhero. Especially since he's one of the last guys permitted to be both super and heroic over there at DC these days. Mostly even at the same time!
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hey may not know that, but it was probably "know" in the biblical sense. no clue where wanda is though.
Yeah, I think it was just poorly communicated by Kirby making the beams red. People think of red beams as being heat rays of some kind. Of course, if they were blue, maybe he'd have ice powers today. Comics are silly and associative like that (which is part of why I like them.)
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Also - how far can Blink throw portals?
Also also as mentioned above:
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Ink has tattoos he can activate for various powers (he used the biohazard one, making his targets sick)
Spyke was in X3 too - he can grow bony knife things and throw them.
Toad was in the first movie - long tongue, super agile
And Havok was in First Class. Pew pew. He seems to have mastered his powers now. ;D
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Who would've guessed?
Also, hahaha, fuck you Brett Ratner. Turns out that, no, it wasn't the source material that was the problem. Enjoy being the one shitty hack who couldn't produce a decent film in this franchise*, who had to be cleaned-up after via retconn.
*Not counting the awful Wolverine movies, because duh, of course those would be bad. Even the Wolverine comics were bad.
Ehh, I liked the first half of The Wolverine but thought the second half was pretty bad.
It handled the "plot twist" the worst possible way. You had characters who knew what was going on being evasive in scenes where there was no one to hide the information from.
It was fun stupid comic book shit. A letdown from the previous half, of course. And a hell of a lot better than what X-men Origins: Wolverine did. But if they ever bring Sabertooth back they need to rehire Liev Schreiber.
I didn't see that one. 'The Pool' ended any and all of my desire to ever see another stand-alone Wolverine movie.
*shudders*
Because they looked cool. Personally I'm curious why they made Spyke when they already had Marrow, but I presume it involved market research or some writer not remembering a low-profile character when he was created for the cartoon.
edit: yep
Blink was, is, and ever shall be everyone's favorite dead character. And she will always be dead, or elseworlds'd, or otherwise NOT in regular continuity for very long. Which is probably some of her mystiqueappeal, the other half being "hot exotic-colored* chick with insanely abusable powers." I mean if the Portal games taught us anything they taught us how to use portals/teleportation to bend the freakin' world to our will.
*I've seen her go from steel-blue, through purple, into hot pink, and occasionally flirt with battleship grey.
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