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whaaa the supreme court unanimously agreed that being detained after work by your employer doesn't require them to pay you as long as it's for something that's not in your job description (in regards to amazon locking everyone in after the warehouse closes to search them every day)
so if say, wal mart hires me, they can say my job description is a cashier now, and then just keep me 6 hours after my two hour shift to stock shelves?
no i don't imagine walmart could actually do that because of this ruling
when I worked at target I was kept up to an hour every day to face other departments and I wasn't paid for it
so they already do that
I think now it's just legal
and yes I was physically locked in the store and unable to leave (to prevent theft)
It's not about your job description, but about whether what you are doing is actually work.
So, yeah that target shit still illegal.
The decision was unanimous because that that really is the law as it exists, and the Constitution doesn't have much to say on worker rights. So they really didn't have anything to overturn it on.
This is something that needs to be fixed with passing new fed or state laws.
For example, this shit wouldn't fly in WA, since our laws are set up such that if you are required to be on work premises for any reason you are on the clock.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
we did, deebaser and tapeslinger and hakkekage and nexuscrawler and i dont remember who else probably others
beast this is not a very good report
It was like a really really long improv set with a script
It would have benefited from MORE editing
iirc it was locked in distribution hell not editor hell
When Peter Dinklage became A Big Fucking Deal overnight, the distributors wanted more money, to which they were essentially told to get fucked
so much of the displeasure about police car searches seems to be predicated in weed being illegal. like, that is what pretty much everyone's mind jumps to - a cop pulls you over for speeding and comes up with weed and now you're in real trouble.
but you could imagine plenty of cases in which casual searches were really important - seeing a back seat doused in fresh blood, or a bomb or illegal weapons or whatever.
i wonder to what degree legalization of weed will change the public stance wrt these sorts of searches.
I think the problem really comes with how easily it is to bootstrap yourself into jail time.
I don't want to EVER consent to a cop searching my car, because fuck the police. But I know that if I ever refuse, they're going to trump up some bullshit , arrest me, impound the car, search it anyway under some tenuous "probably cause" that I'd have to hire an expensive lawyer to argue against, when they find nothing they're definitely going to take me to jail overnight because I was a dick about making them go through all that for nothing.
It will never happen that you just tell the cop "naah dogg you're not searching my shit" and they just go "well OK, here's your speeding ticket, have a nice day". Once you refuse the search, you are absolutely going to spend the night in county.
Umm...
What has happened every time I said cops couldn't search my car was they brought a dog along, it alerted on my car, the cops searched it for half an hour, they found nothing, and I eventually was let go.
4 times in 2 years.
Maybe Florida cops are just a special brand of shitheel that will cause there dogs to alert to manufacturer probable cause, but not actually plant drugs on a 20 something white boy.
oh wait me from the past already figured this out and there is some vacuum sealed sous vide cooked chicken in the fridge I just need to crack open and sear in the skillet
thanks me from the past
+1
BeNarwhalThe Work Left UnfinishedRegistered Userregular
You got yerself a human to take care of, you need 3 things
Food, water, and a place to sleep
It ain't sleeping, it might as well be attending to one of the other two
They'll basically live forever as long as you have those Big 3 nailed down
whaaa the supreme court unanimously agreed that being detained after work by your employer doesn't require them to pay you as long as it's for something that's not in your job description (in regards to amazon locking everyone in after the warehouse closes to search them every day)
so if say, wal mart hires me, they can say my job description is a cashier now, and then just keep me 6 hours after my two hour shift to stock shelves?
no i don't imagine walmart could actually do that because of this ruling
when I worked at target I was kept up to an hour every day to face other departments and I wasn't paid for it
so they already do that
I think now it's just legal
and yes I was physically locked in the store and unable to leave (to prevent theft)
It's not about your job description, but about whether what you are doing is actually work.
So, yeah that target shit still illegal.
The decision was unanimous because that that really is the law as it exists, and the Constitution doesn't have much to say on worker rights. So they really didn't have anything to overturn it on.
This is something that needs to be fixed with passing new fed or state laws.
For example, this shit wouldn't fly in WA, since our laws are set up such that if you are required to be on work premises for any reason you are on the clock.
well you can bet your ass every company is going to push the bounds of this thing as far as they can
because even if they end up losing, the cost will be less than their profits from doing so
so much of the displeasure about police car searches seems to be predicated in weed being illegal. like, that is what pretty much everyone's mind jumps to - a cop pulls you over for speeding and comes up with weed and now you're in real trouble.
but you could imagine plenty of cases in which casual searches were really important - seeing a back seat doused in fresh blood, or a bomb or illegal weapons or whatever.
i wonder to what degree legalization of weed will change the public stance wrt these sorts of searches.
I think the problem really comes with how easily it is to bootstrap yourself into jail time.
I don't want to EVER consent to a cop searching my car, because fuck the police. But I know that if I ever refuse, they're going to trump up some bullshit , arrest me, impound the car, search it anyway under some tenuous "probably cause" that I'd have to hire an expensive lawyer to argue against, when they find nothing they're definitely going to take me to jail overnight because I was a dick about making them go through all that for nothing.
It will never happen that you just tell the cop "naah dogg you're not searching my shit" and they just go "well OK, here's your speeding ticket, have a nice day". Once you refuse the search, you are absolutely going to spend the night in county.
Umm...
What has happened every time I said cops couldn't search my car was they brought a dog along, it alerted on my car, the cops searched it for half an hour, they found nothing, and I eventually was let go.
4 times in 2 years.
Maybe Florida cops are just a special brand of shitheel that will cause there dogs to alert to manufacturer probable cause, but not actually plant drugs on a 20 something white boy.
#everythingaboutfloridaisawful
Except for moi of course
Are you really about Florida though
Are you?
You know I'm all about that Florida
bout that Florida
so much of the displeasure about police car searches seems to be predicated in weed being illegal. like, that is what pretty much everyone's mind jumps to - a cop pulls you over for speeding and comes up with weed and now you're in real trouble.
but you could imagine plenty of cases in which casual searches were really important - seeing a back seat doused in fresh blood, or a bomb or illegal weapons or whatever.
i wonder to what degree legalization of weed will change the public stance wrt these sorts of searches.
I think the problem really comes with how easily it is to bootstrap yourself into jail time.
I don't want to EVER consent to a cop searching my car, because fuck the police. But I know that if I ever refuse, they're going to trump up some bullshit , arrest me, impound the car, search it anyway under some tenuous "probably cause" that I'd have to hire an expensive lawyer to argue against, when they find nothing they're definitely going to take me to jail overnight because I was a dick about making them go through all that for nothing.
It will never happen that you just tell the cop "naah dogg you're not searching my shit" and they just go "well OK, here's your speeding ticket, have a nice day". Once you refuse the search, you are absolutely going to spend the night in county.
Umm...
What has happened every time I said cops couldn't search my car was they brought a dog along, it alerted on my car, the cops searched it for half an hour, they found nothing, and I eventually was let go.
4 times in 2 years.
Maybe Florida cops are just a special brand of shitheel that will cause there dogs to alert to manufacturer probable cause, but not actually plant drugs on a 20 something white boy.
#everythingaboutfloridaisawful
Except for moi of course
Are you really about Florida though
Are you?
You know I'm all about that Florida
bout that Florida
TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
I'm assembling some minis I got off e-bay
I seem to be missing an arm, but I've got an extra sword and crossbow -- doesn't really seem like enough to whine at the seller since it's one tiny bit out of the dozens I got -- apparently I can order a replacement arm from the company for 50 cents
plus $6 shipping
guess my dude is gonna be an amputee till I need some other shit from them
Amazon is a terrible place to work for, no doubt, but you guys are worrying about this way to much. It was about whether things like security checks are part of the job (and this payable) or incidental to doing your job (not payable). It's an anti worker ruling, but it would not extend to something that is clearly work.
Any minute that I am not reclining and watching sports is time I consider work, skfm.
... I now aspire to achieving a place in life where I am being paid for every moment I am not sitting.
Amazon is a terrible place to work for, no doubt, but you guys are worrying about this way to much. It was about whether things like security checks are part of the job (and this payable) or incidental to doing your job (not payable). It's an anti worker ruling, but it would not extend to something that is clearly work.
Any minute that I am not reclining and watching sports is time I consider work, skfm.
... I now aspire to achieving a place in life where I am being paid for every moment I am not sitting.
I will you pay you one Penny per decade spent standing. Now you are paid for all your non-sitting time.
pretty sure that violates federal minimum wage laws
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
Amazon is a terrible place to work for, no doubt, but you guys are worrying about this way to much. It was about whether things like security checks are part of the job (and this payable) or incidental to doing your job (not payable). It's an anti worker ruling, but it would not extend to something that is clearly work.
Any minute that I am not reclining and watching sports is time I consider work, skfm.
... I now aspire to achieving a place in life where I am being paid for every moment I am not sitting.
I got paid for being on-call.
At a reduced rate ofcourse, unless I was actually called in.
I seem to be missing an arm, but I've got an extra sword and crossbow -- doesn't really seem like enough to whine at the seller since it's one tiny bit out of the dozens I got -- apparently I can order a replacement arm from the company for 50 cents
plus $6 shipping
guess my dude is gonna be an amputee till I need some other shit from them
Amazon is a terrible place to work for, no doubt, but you guys are worrying about this way to much. It was about whether things like security checks are part of the job (and this payable) or incidental to doing your job (not payable). It's an anti worker ruling, but it would not extend to something that is clearly work.
Any minute that I am not reclining and watching sports is time I consider work, skfm.
... I now aspire to achieving a place in life where I am being paid for every moment I am not sitting.
Work at target during Xmas.
You will be so tired when you get home you won't want to stand, and the pay is so low you'll have to sell your body during you laying down time.
Sounds perfect for you.
They moistly come out at night, moistly.
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BeNarwhalThe Work Left UnfinishedRegistered Userregular
Amazon is a terrible place to work for, no doubt, but you guys are worrying about this way to much. It was about whether things like security checks are part of the job (and this payable) or incidental to doing your job (not payable). It's an anti worker ruling, but it would not extend to something that is clearly work.
Any minute that I am not reclining and watching sports is time I consider work, skfm.
... I now aspire to achieving a place in life where I am being paid for every moment I am not sitting.
I will you pay you one Penny per decade spent standing. Now you are paid for all your non-sitting time.
Man that was easy.
I work in kitchens, remember. You are gonna owe me a surprising number of pennies if I keep this up.
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yes this new report you've submitted is much more complete
also here are some orders
you're being reassigned from the scouting regiment
and about half way from the oven to the stove top the burning starts
I did my part
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
ohshitohshitohshitowowowow
I pulled the rack out of a hot oven with a thin little dish towel the other day
and at first things went fine
but after I had a nice grasp and started pulling, my hand alerted me that this was not in fact enough protection
you'd basically be Katt Williams humping the stool at his standup specials
jonah hill is great in it, as is leo
welp this is dinner (made coq au vin @Irond Will ty)
spent too much time and money on this to just drop it.
forgive the source its the only one
more this.
and i know it's going to look really gross tomorrow.
pretty much the type of ill i hate the most
if i put two butter knives over the stove until they're red hot and then just shove them up my nose that will cure it right
"move the oven mitts!"
but he also had a perfectly good apron on.
...
I thought it was psytrance with lead guitar.
Richer than God, TAG.
Richer than God.
I guess I should cook him something so he doesn't die
is uh
is he your charge
cuz uh
It's not about your job description, but about whether what you are doing is actually work.
So, yeah that target shit still illegal.
The decision was unanimous because that that really is the law as it exists, and the Constitution doesn't have much to say on worker rights. So they really didn't have anything to overturn it on.
This is something that needs to be fixed with passing new fed or state laws.
For example, this shit wouldn't fly in WA, since our laws are set up such that if you are required to be on work premises for any reason you are on the clock.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
hes my roommate
more accurately I think I should cook the both of us dinner so he doesn't buy a pizza or some thing that he aint got money for
Yup, you're gonna wanna feed those things at least once a day.
Water too. Important.
It was like a really really long improv set with a script
It would have benefited from MORE editing
iirc it was locked in distribution hell not editor hell
When Peter Dinklage became A Big Fucking Deal overnight, the distributors wanted more money, to which they were essentially told to get fucked
Uncanny Magazine!
The Mad Writers Union
Are you really about Florida though
Are you?
thanks me from the past
Food, water, and a place to sleep
It ain't sleeping, it might as well be attending to one of the other two
They'll basically live forever as long as you have those Big 3 nailed down
well you can bet your ass every company is going to push the bounds of this thing as far as they can
because even if they end up losing, the cost will be less than their profits from doing so
it's amazing that Muppet's Christmas Carol still looks good. 22 years later.
You know I'm all about that Florida
bout that Florida
twitch.tv/tehsloth
no georgia
I seem to remember you describing one as having 'surprisingly literate pop culture references' and I think the story was kind of Yojimbo-y?
I seem to be missing an arm, but I've got an extra sword and crossbow -- doesn't really seem like enough to whine at the seller since it's one tiny bit out of the dozens I got -- apparently I can order a replacement arm from the company for 50 cents
plus $6 shipping
guess my dude is gonna be an amputee till I need some other shit from them
twitch.tv/tehsloth
Any minute that I am not reclining and watching sports is time I consider work, skfm.
... I now aspire to achieving a place in life where I am being paid for every moment I am not sitting.
pretty sure that violates federal minimum wage laws
I got paid for being on-call.
At a reduced rate ofcourse, unless I was actually called in.
It’s not a very important country most of the time
http://steamcommunity.com/id/mortious
uhmm
literal sword arm
problem solved
Work at target during Xmas.
You will be so tired when you get home you won't want to stand, and the pay is so low you'll have to sell your body during you laying down time.
Sounds perfect for you.
Man that was easy.
I work in kitchens, remember. You are gonna owe me a surprising number of pennies if I keep this up.
Possibly even more than 1.