Hey you, I saw that. Put it back! [Kids]

MNC Dover

I think my kid's programming is broke. She lays on her back, she flips over to her and starts screaming her head off because she can't flip back. Mom or dad put her back on her back and she almost immediately flips over again.

This went on for over 30 minutes last night before she got tired and fell asleep on her stomach. Naturally that scares the crap out of me, but she's done that several nights in a row and hasn't had any problems.

Shadowfire

Once they can flip on their own, sleeping on their stomach is totally fine. Ours went through the same thing. Now she falls asleep on her stomach, knees under her, butt in the air.

Fishman

Our newborn can already roll front-to-back, but not back-to-front, and he's barely 2 months old. Utterly ridiculous how strong he is so young.

MNC Dover

Here's that first laugh I was talking about a few days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Har0n8av0NQ

MNC Dover

Good morning thread! Where the cute baby pics at?!

Janson

Fishman wrote: »

Our newborn can already roll front-to-back, but not back-to-front, and he's barely 2 months old. Utterly ridiculous how strong he is so young.

That is amazing!

Does he have a name yet?!

MNC Dover wrote: »

Good morning thread! Where the cute baby pics at?!

That smile! So cute! Also, I am always envious of babies with eyebrows.

Niko is going to be one next month, ah!

Janson

Yesterday afternoon was tough, I was already super tired as it was, and I came home early from work to relieve Mori's mom so she could attend a doctor's appt. Niko had juuust fallen asleep, and of course as soon as he heard my voice he woke, then never went back to sleep.

So I had another afternoon/evening of him screaming. He's pretty attached to me, and also demands quite a bit of attention, so he's never really very happy unless he's being held. But he also wants to move about and wriggle, so I can't ever sit down with him; he wants me to pace up and down while I hold him (he's 22+ lb so this isn't ideal). He had (massively) pooped around 5.45 pm so when it was 6.30 pm and he was still screaming, I placed him down on the floor and tried to ignore him because I could just not deal with him any more.

...yeah, I ran his bath and went to undress him and it turned out he had pooped AGAIN, and he was probably screaming because his poor butt was red-raw from the poop (it stank as if something had crawled up his butt and died - he never normally gets such a rash, so I figure something really bothered his stomach). Ugh, poor guy, and I felt so bad.

DisruptedCapitalist

Got these pics from school today. They're reading the Cat in the Hat and splashing in the "puddle" afterwards. I love her new glasses.



EDIT: Another ...

ahava

Our little miss Ellie is 15 days old today!

And she's already gained a full pound over her birth weight! She was 5lbs 5oz at birth and is now 6lbs 4oz as of two days ago. So Yay!

Peen

The hair on that baby, I mean goddamn though

ahava

it's so funny cause every body comments on her hair. But my hair was the same when i was born so I was expecting it. I'd have been more surprised if she didn't have any hair.

Although it is very much like her daddy's hair in that it won't stay put.

Janson

Niiice weight gain!

DisruptedCapitalist

fuzzy...

Entriech

lonelyahava wrote: »

it's so funny cause every body comments on her hair. But my hair was the same when i was born so I was expecting it. I'd have been more surprised if she didn't have any hair.

Although it is very much like her daddy's hair in that it won't stay put.

@lonelyahava Did you have crazy heartburn during your pregnancy? I only ask as our daughter came out with a crazy head of hair too, and my wife had a ton of heartburn, and heard an old wives tale about babies with lots of hair and heartburn during pregnancy. Just want to build that anecdotal case, you know.

In other news, my kid's picking up on how to use a fork. She hated all the plastic, dull-edged kids utensils, so we provide her with demi-tasse spoons, and cocktail forks. The scale works! Here she is, practising with a banana.
https://youtu.be/legpEExew9M

SimBen

36 weeks tomorrow. Starting to feel marginally more real. Need to make the bug-out bag and register for parental leave this week-end.

Also do my taxes.

SimBen

Also, baby's still sideways. Doctor said at this point it's not worrisome but that just in case let's read up on our options and start thinking about it.

I mean, it's more of a choice for her than for me. Everything else has gone perfectly well so far though.

SyphonBlue

Mallory has been suuuuuuuuuper difficult for the past week. She's always been a difficult baby, but this week has just been on a whole other level (and half the time she's crying during that, too!) All she does is cry and want to be held. She wants nothing to do with any of her toys anymore, she fights sleep to the extreme, and when she is finally asleep she's up again after a couple hours (used to sleep 5-6 hours), we can't take her out anywhere, we can't even go on walks and she used to love those. She's just started teething, one tooth halfway in and another just about to come, so I assume it's that but holy shit it's really hard to not just leave her on the side of the road this week.

ahava

I may have had more heartburn, but it's tough to tell. I've got acid reflux disease and so was on antacid meds all through the pregnancy. Towards the end the acid started to break through the medication, so maybe.



Ok, now that i've wowed you all with my amazing child, please indulge me in some wordvomit ranting/panicking word salad that i need to put down somewhere or i'm going to lose my mind

I wanted to raise her as fairly as possible. I want to give her as much opportunity as possible. I was determined to do nothing overly 'girly' for her. She was in no way going to wear pink or bows or lace or ruffles. She was going to not be beholden to those stereotypes. Not my daughter. I would praise her on her wit and her skills. On her ability to burp like an old drunkard and her talent for grabbing at the bottle. I would not praise her for her looks or gush and go gaga over her soft skin or gorgeous hair. I would not put her in dresses and i would buy her hotwheels cars and monster trucks. She'll play with duplo and lego and tonka.

But then mom bought her this adorable pink sleeper outfit that had cats on it and I can't resist it. She is just too cute. I want to put bows in her hair and maybe one of those really obnoxious hairbands. I want to take her dress shopping and get her a adorable outfit. I find myself staring at her while she sleeps and just babbling about how pretty she is. How lovely her skin is, how dark her eyes, etc. I call her things like "ladybug" and "princess" without even thinking and then realize that I don't care. I'm not so progressive to be able to raise her completely gender-neutral. If she wants princesses and pink barbie dolls, then she will have them. But I am finding my willpower against even the smallest of gender role stereotypes crumbling in the face of just how beautiful my little queen is. And I'm having some mental gymnastics with this.

Granted I'm also having brain issues with the fact that I'm failing at breastfeeding, my milk is drying up, and I just don't have the mental ability/capacity/energy to try and fix it. but that's a whole different thing. As is the fact that I just can't seem to get her to sleep in her cot.

Ellie was named Eleanor after two amazing women in history, Eleanor Roosevelt and Eleanor of Aquitaine. And she will be just as amazing as they were. Her mommy just needs to get past feeling like a failure.

SyphonBlue

We also had planned on not having anything pink for our daughter.

But godammit it's so godamn fucking cute. Ugh!

Muzzmuzz

Ahava, I feel for you. Here I was going to go as gender neutral as possible, and yet here I am going googoo over pink fuzzy sleepers, and calling her 'Sweetie McGeety'

Until my relatives told me about how my parents, who while they weren't too strict on gender conformity, did like putting me in dresses as a baby, and putting bows on my threadbare head. And how did I turn out? A kid who loved Ninja Turtles, video games, Star Wars, Barbie, skirts, and the colour pink. They just kept the whole "You can do anything" mandate, although there were a few blips in puberty.

So, in all honesty, don't feel bad about 'gendering' your awesome baby, as long as you keep an open mind about what they like when they're older (and I can't even picture you telling your kid that they like something because of their gender), you will be an awesome parent.

And honestly, who could resist wanting to put bows in that adorable head of hair?

davidsdurions

My 2 year old daughter wears little adorable bows in her hair (out of necessity I try to say because otherwise her hair is unmanageable and it requires taming, so cute bows it is), wears pink shirts and pants and shorts and dresses (she also wears jeans and boots and black and brown and green and blue and white and red and yellow), dances around on her tip toes like a ballerina (in between rounds of kicking the shit out of a soccer ball, learning to play catch with smaller round objects, and WWE body slamming me after doing her patented countdown "TWO THREE TWO!").

Leah is certainly female and she has and enjoys "girly" things, but also has and enjoys "boy stuff" without objection from her parents. If she was male, I wouldn't change the way things have played out. Looking at her toy box and her book shelf, you can't tell if we have a girl or a boy. Looking at her closet, you'd certainly know it belongs to a girl but definitely not a "toddlers and tiaras" type. She's got the equipment for jumping in muddy puddles, and if the weather would just cooperate, she'll be out there with her parents and their friends and their kids, boys and girls, getting dirty and having fun.

And look, today she was Super Girl, and yes she did the body slamming on me off and on all afternoon:

Shadowfire

Having some pink is fine, but there's a lot of cute green, blue, yellow, red, and white outfits for kids too.

They're just normally in the boys section because ugh.

Muzzmuzz

What really irks me is the pink and white recolours of 'boy' logos. Sports teams, Superhero logos.... blech.

Ranlin

Yeah, it's really hard to stay 100% gender neutral, which is one reason I never even tried. Not to be neutral, but balanced instead, so my daughter could experience as much as possible and choose what she wanted. I think while it's worse to force all the solely frilly pink things on a girl, it's not great to deny it completely either. Enjoy the cute things, and ignore the 95% of the rest that is hideous pink vomit, then go to the boys section for the neutral + boy selection, and frown super hard about it being separated in that fashion.

Alex is going to be 3 in a couple months, and she continues to be 95th percentile for height and weight. That means she's big enough that the girls section suddenly has a lot more variety of tops, while unfortunately the basic t-shirt dominated boys sections are also increasingly dominated by sports teams and similar franchise things that I don't like and don't give a crap about. I continue to find waaaaay better variety and selection in perfect condition at a second hand store here run by the humane society than I do in any regular store.

Smrtnik

Entriech wrote: »

lonelyahava wrote: »

it's so funny cause every body comments on her hair. But my hair was the same when i was born so I was expecting it. I'd have been more surprised if she didn't have any hair.

Although it is very much like her daddy's hair in that it won't stay put.

@lonelyahava Did you have crazy heartburn during your pregnancy? I only ask as our daughter came out with a crazy head of hair too, and my wife had a ton of heartburn, and heard an old wives tale about babies with lots of hair and heartburn during pregnancy. Just want to build that anecdotal case, you know.

In other news, my kid's picking up on how to use a fork. She hated all the plastic, dull-edged kids utensils, so we provide her with demi-tasse spoons, and cocktail forks. The scale works! Here she is, practising with a banana.
https://youtu.be/legpEExew9M

It's not an old wives tale if it's true. They told us at the hospital that the hormone that grows hair in babies gives momma heartburn, and also thickens her hair. Then after delivery for a good year or so the mom sheds her own extra acquired hair.

MNC Dover

Good night folks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmZasQm-FAM

Farangu

My wife just sent me a video of Dexter flipping himself from stomach to back.

This means we can start letting him sleep on his stomach and THANK FUCK because he has been such a little terror when it comes to fighting my attempts to get him to sleep, but whenever it's tummy time and he's the littlest bit gassed he's out like a light.

Edit: I also realize I haven't put any pictures of him up in like a month. I'll make time for that soon, although preparing to move takes a lot more time to do with a two month old baby!

Peen

@lonelyahava Your kid will self-direct way sooner than you expect. Both of my kids were making decisions about how they wanted to look when they were two and I've talked about it before but my older daughter leaned hard into the pretty pink princess thing despite us having literally no Disney princess stuff in the house and extremely minimal stereotypically girly things in her wardrobe or room. She saw it some at day care and said fuck it, I want all of the dresses and pink things there are, so we went with it.

Do I love it? Nah. Am I bothered by it? Nah.

Your daughter is new and beautiful and rightfully the love of your life. Express that love, however it comes out, and feeling guilty for not staying gender neutral enough is as ridiculous as feeling guilty for putting something blue on her. If she looks good in a pink cat sleeper and a giant flower headband, great! She'll start finding her own way and making her own decisions soon enough and if you and Eco are truly committed to supporting her then she will flourish and shine, don't begin to allow yourself to worry about how clothing decisions are affecting her now.

Joshmvii

If you're not forcing gender roles and stereotypes on your kids, then you're doing it right.

If you're putting them in both cute pink and cute green and when they get big enough to know what they want, letting them drive their choices while also making sure to present an array of options in front of them and never making them feel like they are required to like a certain thing, then you're doing it right too.

My oldest before she was even two was in love with all things princess and dresses. Some of her first words were telling a friend of ours she was "boo-ful(beautiful)," and she takes every opportunity to talk about how her dress is pretty and such. But that's just what she likes. She also loves playing with Star Wars toys, little animals, dinosaurs, and most of her favorite games to play involve jumping on me and roaring monster noises, or stomping around in water puddles and playing in the park.

My wife and I make sure when we're complimenting her and our youngest, we just focus the compliments on how smart, funny, fast, etc. they are. We typically don't remark on her looks at all unless she says something about her dress or hair ties being pretty, or her nails when she wants to paint them alongside mommy, then we just agree with her about how it's pretty.

Honestly, if you're a parent that cares about not making your kids feel beholden to gender roles and stereotypes, you're probably already doing the job right. The people who perpetuate that stuff wouldn't even be thinking about it in the first place.

Janson

I agree with Joshmvii, and anyway, I don't like that gender neutral has come to mean green and white and nothing frilly or pink. Everything is for everyone; it's if you were denying your kid access to something based on their sex that it'd be unfair.

Why do you feel like your milk is drying up?

Joshmvii

Exactly. I think it's just as bad when people are militant and act like it'd be a crime to put their daughters in a frilly dress as people who act like girls can't wear pants. It's so much more about letting your kids express themselves in whatever healthy way they want, and making sure they understand that their gender doesn't determine their worth or what they can achieve.

djmitchella

From a few years ago -- the dressup box at preschool was well-used:

and for a while our other kid was very keen on being a cowgirl called Jess:

MNC Dover

"You're my favorite deputy!"

Moriveth

Poor Anya wanted to cuddle Niko last night but she accidentally woke him in the process. So we had two screaming kids - one because he was suddenly woken up, and the other because she accidentally woke him up and felt bad about it.

Taramoor

Joshmvii wrote: »

If you're not forcing gender roles and stereotypes on your kids, then you're doing it right.

If you're putting them in both cute pink and cute green and when they get big enough to know what they want, letting them drive their choices while also making sure to present an array of options in front of them and never making them feel like they are required to like a certain thing, then you're doing it right too.

My oldest before she was even two was in love with all things princess and dresses. Some of her first words were telling a friend of ours she was "boo-ful(beautiful)," and she takes every opportunity to talk about how her dress is pretty and such. But that's just what she likes. She also loves playing with Star Wars toys, little animals, dinosaurs, and most of her favorite games to play involve jumping on me and roaring monster noises, or stomping around in water puddles and playing in the park.

My wife and I make sure when we're complimenting her and our youngest, we just focus the compliments on how smart, funny, fast, etc. they are. We typically don't remark on her looks at all unless she says something about her dress or hair ties being pretty, or her nails when she wants to paint them alongside mommy, then we just agree with her about how it's pretty.

Honestly, if you're a parent that cares about not making your kids feel beholden to gender roles and stereotypes, you're probably already doing the job right. The people who perpetuate that stuff wouldn't even be thinking about it in the first place.

My kid likes to tell my wife how beautiful her dresses are.

Then she builds robots out of legos.

ahava

Janson wrote: »

I agree with Joshmvii, and anyway, I don't like that gender neutral has come to mean green and white and nothing frilly or pink. Everything is for everyone; it's if you were denying your kid access to something based on their sex that it'd be unfair.

Why do you feel like your milk is drying up?

I was getting about 50-60mls each time I was pumping right after she was born. Now I'm struggling to get even 20mls after almost an hour. I mean is my fault. I didn't pump with enough dedication the first week. But I had a spinal headache that made doing anything difficult. But I'm seeing the consequences now.

She's still thriving on the formula, and while it's not my perfect mental image on how I wanted things, she's still amazing. So it is what it is.

DaMoonRulz

@Janson but Green and White are the best colors (MSU alum on a technicality)

Janson

lonelyahava wrote: »

I was getting about 50-60mls each time I was pumping right after she was born. Now I'm struggling to get even 20mls after almost an hour. I mean is my fault. I didn't pump with enough dedication the first week. But I had a spinal headache that made doing anything difficult. But I'm seeing the consequences now.

She's still thriving on the formula, and while it's not my perfect mental image on how I wanted things, she's still amazing. So it is what it is.

I was going to say that pumping is no indication of your supply; I don't respond well to a pump at all, I wouldn't even get an oz after 40 minutes of pumping, yet Niko was still over 16 lb by 4 months. I tried eeeeeeverything to increase my supply at the pump with Anya and nothing ever worked.

However, I know you were having difficulty breastfeeding, so I'm not sure if you're exclusively pumping at this point. And formula is also great, both my kids were combined formula/breastmilk-fed at 4+ months (because I couldn't pump enough at work. I still produced enough during the day at weekends, though!). Just wanted to offer encouragement that pumping means diddly squat, if you are still wishing to combo-feed.

Robonun

DaMoonRulz wrote: »

@Janson but Green and White are the best colors (MSU alum on a technicality)

Go Green! Go White! *\o/*

ahava

Janson wrote: »

lonelyahava wrote: »

I was getting about 50-60mls each time I was pumping right after she was born. Now I'm struggling to get even 20mls after almost an hour. I mean is my fault. I didn't pump with enough dedication the first week. But I had a spinal headache that made doing anything difficult. But I'm seeing the consequences now.

She's still thriving on the formula, and while it's not my perfect mental image on how I wanted things, she's still amazing. So it is what it is.

I was going to say that pumping is no indication of your supply; I don't respond well to a pump at all, I wouldn't even get an oz after 40 minutes of pumping, yet Niko was still over 16 lb by 4 months. I tried eeeeeeverything to increase my supply at the pump with Anya and nothing ever worked.

However, I know you were having difficulty breastfeeding, so I'm not sure if you're exclusively pumping at this point. And formula is also great, both my kids were combined formula/breastmilk-fed at 4+ months (because I couldn't pump enough at work. I still produced enough during the day at weekends, though!). Just wanted to offer encouragement that pumping means diddly squat, if you are still wishing to combo-feed.

Yeah. Pumping exclusively. Ellie just will not take the nipple. It's abhorrent to get sensibilities or something.

I'm fine with her being formula fed (in a logical mindset). It's the illogical side that goes all silly. She's healthy and happy. However I can keep her there is what I'll do.

But it's 8am now. Night shift is over and I'm going to bed.

Edit: I'm sorry. That sounded very rude and dismissive of me. Thank you for your support and advice. It is appreciated. I'm just tired. I didn't mean to be rude at all.