#9 just had a tire explode on the start finish straight and probably destroyed their hydraulics in the process. They've been death by a thousand cutsed, and #7 and #8 have just been stabbed in the gut.
If Toyota ever comes back to the WEC I'll be amazed. What a disaster. LMP1H is probably going to be a dead class.
Toyota saying they were hit by a car to cause the puncture. I haven't seen an outside video yet but that was my first reaction when I saw the in car.
edit: i dunno. i think i might just pull the ripcord on this race. i can't subject myself to 13 and a half hours of the porsche victory parade after last 2 years. i'm just so gutted
Well they had to really work for it in the end! Coming back from 18 laps down and having to snatch the lead back from an LMP2 car with less than an hour to go!
Yea they had to rebuild the hybrid system. The #8 had the same problem but it was an extra 45 minutes to do the rebuild.
The #1 that was winning went out in the morning with hydraulic problems. Shame that the #9 could have won if they didn't get hit on the start finish straight which caused a tire to explode and cause them to lose the hydraulics system and get them stuck in 5th gear 8 miles from the pits.
So I caught none of it live and I only just started looking at highlights and I'm extremely naive about WEC. Is there an LMP1 hybrid and non-hybrid LMP1 class? Or were all the cars in LMP1 hybrid?
The 10 minute recap I saw had no narration so all I can tell it looked like a ton of cars driving around on fire. Did most LMP1 cars just have technical issues?
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There are only the two types of LMP1 cars I believe, and both are hybrid. I don't know if LMP1 is required to be hybrid, though. The usual justification for motorsport (other than it's just plain fun) is that it's to advance the technology, and the more we can do with hybrid the better, but again not sure if it is required.
Some people are wondering if there will even be LMP1 next year. If either Porsche or Toyota decide not to participate, that's basically it unless somebody like Peugeot jumps in.
The usual justification for motorsport (other than it's just plain fun) is that it's to advance the technology
I've never really found this argument to be convincing as the vast majority of technological improvements that are relevant outside of motorsport get banned.
That and Audi and Porsche are from the same family/corporation of cars. They didn't see the point in having two cars from essentially the same company competing with each other. They also withdrew from WRC where VW was almost completely dominant.
They didn't want to spend money on diesel development post dieselgate, Porsche runs a flat 4 turbocharged gasoline engine, so they got to keep going.
The two LMP1 classes are LMP1H, which is works teams with the very expensive hybrid systems, and LMP1, which has a similar aero design and more power but no hybrid, so they're slower. These are generally for privateers. The last few years the only LMP1 teams have been ByKolles and Rebellion, and Rebellion bailed out and moved to LMP2 because the non-H LMP1 teams have been horrible. ByKolles didn't even last 5 minutes this year.
However, next year they're standardizing LMP1 to be like LMP2 and adding a standard chassis which lets privateers join easier. There are rumored to be 5+ LMP1 Privateers next year. They will probably be a menace just like the altogether too fast LMP2 cars are with crappy silver drivers.
The real thing now is if Toyota and Porsche want to stay in WEC at LMP1H because the hybrid cars are extremely expensive relative to the other cars, and given the lack of competition there are rumors they might drop out. Especially Toyota, after missing the promised land at Le Mans so many times by just terrible luck.
Wow the situation with the various classes is even more bizarre and convoluted than I had expected. It's a damn shame about Toyota, the car is just ridiculously fast and I heard that it was undefeated this season prior to Le Mans. I'm not really sure how much of the technology in the LMP1H cars is applicable to consumer vehicles, but I would hope that at least some of the hybrid drivetrain stuff would be a fit for the consumer market. It'd be neat to see a high performance hybrid 911 or something.
Toyota and Porsche both say the hybrid drivetrain stuff is very applicable, since it's only mgu-k based recovery in formula one terms, which is more in line with road car designs.
I don't think Toyota would spend all the money on it if it wasn't. I'm sure they also want to make a poster with the TS050 and a Prius next to each other, to try and add some appeal to their general appliance look.
Apparently the #7's clutch was broken by a fake marshal who was a driver from another team running out and telling the #7 to go while waiting for the Safety Car. https://streamable.com/kvdca
At Le Mans, there are 3 safety cars, and when you pit, you can only exit when one comes around and you join at the back of it. The #7 was stopped at the end of the pit lane by a real marshal, and that marshal went away to stop other cars who pit. Someone then ran out, told the #7 to go, which it did, and then it was told to stop again, and then start when the train came around. The way LMP1H cars work is not at all intended for this herky jerky start stop because the clutch is only usually engaged once they are at speed on the electric motor and it burned the clutch out, causing the failure.
So Toyota lost the #7 to people being assholes, they lost the #9 to idiot LMP2 drivers, and they lost the #8 to the same freak failure that the winning #2 car had.
Toyota is mega-cursed, but whoever that driver is needs to be banned from WEC for a long ass time.
25 March -- Melbourne, Australia
8 April -- Shanghai, China*
15 April -- Sakhir, Bahrain
29 April -- Baku, Azerbaijan
13 May -- Barcelona, Spain
27 May -- Monte Carlo, Monaco
10 June -- Montreal, Canada
24 June -- Le Castellet, France
1 July -- Spielberg, Austria
8 July -- Silverstone, Great Britain
22 July -- Hockenheim, Germany
29 July -- Budapest, Hungary
26 August -- Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
2 September -- Monza, Italy
16 September -- Marina Bay, Singapore*
30 September -- Sochi, Russia
7 October -- Suzuka, Japan
21 October -- Austin, USA
28 October -- Mexico City, Mexico
11 November -- Sao Paulo, Brazil
25 November -- Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi
Malaysia is gone, as we knew was happening; Azerbaijan moves to April; Russia goes to the end of September; and France and Germany return, making a six-weekend span with five races in it!
China and Singapore await final confirmation but I'd be surprised if anything goes wrong with them.
He's been fined apparently, and obviously apologized. But yeah, his story is "I wanted to say "good going!" to the lead car and yeah obviously that was dumb"
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Toyota will be back if Porsche is back and there is no reason to believe Porsche is leaving. LMP1's rules change next year but I would still expect the dominant cars to be the hybrids.
If you haven't, and you have the equipment to do so, I highly recommend trying the 919 Hybrid in Assetto Corsa. It's the 2015 model, so it's not exactly like this years, but it still gives you a taste of the acceleration those 1000 bhp hybrids can get coming out of a corner. It's breath taking (especially in VR).
Race was crazy but also demonstrated some serious flaws with the track.
There should not have been as many safety cars, nor should they have taken so long. The track doesn't allow cars to be removed quickly (no exit points, no cranes along large sections of track) and the marshalls seemed poorly organized and slow to remove cars and debris. Likewise the high speed of the track makes debris much worse. This is before mentioning that an incident in the castle section could easily block the track (as seen in one of the support races and the practice sections) leading to an instant red flag.
Frustrating to see Hamilton lose out on what looked like a comfortable race win due to a faulty headrest but there isn't much you can do at that point.
Vettel was incredibly lucky. I would definitely have considered a disqualification for his shenanigans under the safety car. His only mitigating factor is that he was merely reckless rather than deliberate (he supposedly didn't have his hands on the wheel) but reckless driving leading to a collision under a safety car is not a good look - especially when the initial collision was his own fault. He was also incredibly lucky that timing on his penalty vs Hamilton's headrest meant he gained on Hamilton in the championship! Refusing to acknowledge reckless driving was pretty damned pathetic too.
Bottas had a good recovery drive but it was his own mistake that put him there. He was likewise lucky not to receive anything for the damage he did to Kimi's car.
Ricciardo kinda lucked out on the win but credit for his move on the Williams at the restart. Verstappen just has terrible luck. I have little doubt that he missed out on a potential win (given how things shook out) due to engine failure.
Terrible day for the Force India's. Was hoping to see them score a podium and all round good points. Taking each other out is never a good way to go but haven't seen a clear replay of what happened yet.
Congrats to Stroll though. He was on pace this weekend and generally a bit faster than Massa. I'd hope the confidence boost from this will drive him forward a bit.
Oh and McLaren got points! I was expecting the engine to blow (and they did have electric issues as usual) but they survived somehow.
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FIA penalty statement doing the rounds on twitter says that Vettel did steer into Hamilton. If it's genuine, then what do you have to do to get disqualified these days?
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If that's true...
And all he got was a 10s penalty, that's unacceptable. F1's favored son driving at their favored team gets the calls I guess.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-hamilton-vettel-baku-brake-testing-923425/
In short Hamilton did absolutely nothing wrong or unexpected at that corner, Vettel drove into the back of him on his own. Vettel was then found to have steered into Hamilton. He got away with the 10 second stop-go and 3 points on his license, bringing him to 9 total. 3 more before silverstone would net him a race ban.
Frankly it should have been a disqualification. Deliberate contact is not something that should be tolerated especially when it's under safety car regulations. That Vettel refused to even acknowledge what he did during or after the race is really poor form and not a good look for him.
Hamilton didn't really accelerate out of the corner either, and he's got a history of chucklefuckery with safety cars so even though he didn't blatantly brake check. i'm sure that played a part in the ruling. and a 10 second stop go is an enormous penalty, it's over 30 seconds.
hamilton would have won in a walk except he had effectively his own 10 second stop go with the headrest breaking.
He didn't have to accelerate. As the lead car he had the right to control the pace, it's up to the other drivers to pay attention. He also had to slow them significantly enough to let the SC get far enough ahead that they weren't going to pass it. On the previous restart you could see just how close they came to the SC. Vettel was also caught napping the last time which is why he was far too close to Hamilton. Telemetry also showed that Hamilton did more or less the same routine in previous laps.
A 10s stop go is a strong penalty, but intentional collisions justify the harshest possible penalty - disqualification.
Hamilton doing an intentional routine at the corner every time to get a better SC restart doesn't impress me. There are a lot of rules about lead car behavior and Hamilton frequently breaks the spirit if not the letter on them. Put in a sector of VSC after safety car pits if you don't want incidents like this to happen.
They never issue DQs in F1, and minor taps that don't do anything are never going to cause them. They won't DQ for anything short of intentionally pit manuvering someone into a wall, and even then i doubt it. a 10s stop and go is perhaps even excessive given the current f1 penalty regime.
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Eh, that's where we are at this morning? Hand waving completely unprofessional behavior by Vettel because Hamilton occasionally uses restart rules to his advantage? Yeah, fuck that Hamilton guy, using rules to his advantage. It's almost like he's paid 50m pounds a year to do whatever is necessary, within the rules, to win. He clearly should have accelerated, giving up his leaders advantage, so Vettel (a guy who also makes about 50m pounds a year) can not slam in to the back of him and then try and blame it on him like a child. In fact, maybe Hamilton should just pull over and let Vettel by next time. That's clearly the sporting thing to do.
Yeah. You deliberately hit someone out of anger = you're done. That's got to be the rule. Sucks for Hamilton that the timing of the two stops worked out so that he ended up behind.
That said, I thought this supposed to be a race, not a demolition derby. Sooooo many crashes, many of them unforced.
Very entertaining race, though.
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I don't think Hamilton did anything wrong, but I'm perfectly happy with him not winning the championship, but I despise Ferrari so the championship isn't really what's thrilling me this season. Regarding Vettel's penalty, I think the penalty was fine - if Hamilton's guard hadn't malfunctioned, Hamilton would have won the race with 4 or 5 positions ahead of Vettel. Vettel's penalty can't be made worse or better because his competition fucks up.
And regarding Vettel, what he did was ridiculously unprofessional and dangerous - but I have a feeling it wasn't his intention to actually ram Hamilton. I think it was him acting angrily and playing games on the track. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and he deserved the penalty.
As a Canadian, I'm super happy with Stroll, though. He had a run of bad luck, most of which was not his fault, but even when he wasn't being affected by circumstance he wasn't performing and his panic during the safety car in Monaco wasn't very encouraging. However, he showed stability and consistency in Baku, and hopefully this means he'll be more in line with Massa from here on out. I'm hopeful! I would like there to still be a Canadian driver in F1 in 2018!
Eh, that's where we are at this morning? Hand waving completely unprofessional behavior by Vettel because Hamilton occasionally uses restart rules to his advantage? Yeah, fuck that Hamilton guy, using rules to his advantage. It's almost like he's paid 50m pounds a year to do whatever is necessary, within the rules, to win. He clearly should have accelerated, giving up his leaders advantage, so Vettel (a guy who also makes about 50m pounds a year) can not slam in to the back of him and then try and blame it on him like a child. In fact, maybe Hamilton should just pull over and let Vettel by next time. That's clearly the sporting thing to do.
I don't like merc or ferrari and wish they'd both crash out every race. Does it count as handwaving when he got a 10 second stop and go, a huge penalty in F1? Ya'll want Vettel to be drawn and quartered for a collision that didn't even damage the cars.
Finally sat down to watch the rest of the race - holy moly.
The 10 second stop-and-go was clearly not enough since Vettel managed to finish 6 seconds off the leader in the end! The penalty should have put him at the back of the lead lap.
And all the more worse for Hamilton since the headrest problem meant he got zero advantage from the penalty.
Sergio Perez has got to be pissed - his teammate puts him into the wall and ruins his race, which turns out to be a race he could have won!
Also a pity that Stroll got passed in the last 100m by Bottas.
Following an incident at the recent Azerbaijan Grand Prix involving a collision between Car 5 (Sebastian Vettel) and Car 44 (Lewis Hamilton), Sebastian Vettel was today invited to attend a meeting at the FIA’s Paris headquarters. He was accompanied by his Team Principal Maurizio Arrivabene. He reviewed the incident together with a panel comprised of FIA Deputy President for Sport Graham Stoker, FIA General Secretary for Sport Peter Bayer, FIA Formula One World Championship Race Director Charlie Whiting and FIA Formula One World Championship Deputy Race Director and FIA Safety Director Laurent Mekies.
During the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, stewards officiating at the event issued a ten-second stop-and-go penalty to Sebastian Vettel, the most severe penalty immediately applicable before displaying a black flag notice to the driver. Sebastian Vettel also had three penalty points applied to his FIA Superlicence, taking his current total to nine.
However, while respecting the stewards’ decision, the FIA remained deeply concerned by the wider implications of the incident, firstly through the impact such behaviour may have on fans and young competitors worldwide and secondly due to the damage such behaviour may cause to the FIA’s image and reputation of the sport.
Following detailed discussion and further examination of video and data evidence related to the incident, Sebastian Vettel admitted full responsibility.
Sebastian Vettel extended his sincere apologies to the FIA and the wider motor sport family. He additionally committed to devote personal time over the next 12 months to educational activities across a variety of FIA championships and events, including in the FIA Formula 2 championship, the FIA Formula 3 European championship, at an FIA Formula 4 championship to be defined and at the FIA Stewards’ seminar. Due to this incident, president Jean Todt instructed that no road safety activities should be endorsed by Sebastian Vettel until the end of this year.
The FIA notes this commitment, the personal apology made by Sebastian Vettel and his pledge to make that apology public. The FIA also notes that Scuderia Ferrari is aligned with the values and objectives of the FIA.
In light of these developments, FIA President Jean Todt decided that on this occasion the matter should be closed.
Nevertheless, in noting the severity of the offence and its potential negative consequences, FIA President Todt made it clear that should there be any repetition of such behaviour, the matter would immediately be referred to the FIA International Tribunal for further investigation.
Commenting on the outcome of today’s meeting, FIA President Jean Todt said: “Top level sport is an intense environment in which tempers can flare. However, it is the role of top sportsmen to deal with that pressure calmly and to conduct themselves in a manner that not only respects the regulations of the sport but which befits the elevated status they enjoy.”
“Sportsmen must be cognisant of the impact their behaviour can have on those who look up to them. They are heroes and role models and to millions of fans worldwide and must conduct themselves accordingly.”
Here's Vettel's apology
Dear motor-racing fans
Concerning the incidents of Baku I’d like to explain myself: During the re-start lap, I got surprised by Lewis and ran into the back of his car. With hindsight, I don't believe he had any bad intentions. In the heat of the action I then overreacted, and therefore I want to apologise to Lewis directly, as well as to all the people who were watching the race. I realize that I was not setting a good example.
I had no intention at anytime to put Lewis in danger, but I understand that I caused a dangerous situation.
Therefore, I would like to apologise to the FIA. I accept and respect the decisions that were taken at today’s meeting in Paris, as well as the penalty imposed by the Stewards in Baku.
I love this sport and I am determined to represent it in a way that can be an example for future generations.
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I finally own some F1 merchandise.
Of course it's overpriced, but whateves. Wallet, hat and way-too-small shirt (Their shirts are super form fitting, so it's entirely inappropriate for a fat guy to wear). Sticking with my Mclaren, Alonso's number, because there will be good times again.
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If Toyota ever comes back to the WEC I'll be amazed. What a disaster. LMP1H is probably going to be a dead class.
A stark reminder it's the 24 hours of Le Mans and not the 12 hour.
edit: i dunno. i think i might just pull the ripcord on this race. i can't subject myself to 13 and a half hours of the porsche victory parade after last 2 years. i'm just so gutted
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The #1 that was winning went out in the morning with hydraulic problems. Shame that the #9 could have won if they didn't get hit on the start finish straight which caused a tire to explode and cause them to lose the hydraulics system and get them stuck in 5th gear 8 miles from the pits.
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The 10 minute recap I saw had no narration so all I can tell it looked like a ton of cars driving around on fire. Did most LMP1 cars just have technical issues?
Some people are wondering if there will even be LMP1 next year. If either Porsche or Toyota decide not to participate, that's basically it unless somebody like Peugeot jumps in.
I've never really found this argument to be convincing as the vast majority of technological improvements that are relevant outside of motorsport get banned.
The two LMP1 classes are LMP1H, which is works teams with the very expensive hybrid systems, and LMP1, which has a similar aero design and more power but no hybrid, so they're slower. These are generally for privateers. The last few years the only LMP1 teams have been ByKolles and Rebellion, and Rebellion bailed out and moved to LMP2 because the non-H LMP1 teams have been horrible. ByKolles didn't even last 5 minutes this year.
However, next year they're standardizing LMP1 to be like LMP2 and adding a standard chassis which lets privateers join easier. There are rumored to be 5+ LMP1 Privateers next year. They will probably be a menace just like the altogether too fast LMP2 cars are with crappy silver drivers.
The real thing now is if Toyota and Porsche want to stay in WEC at LMP1H because the hybrid cars are extremely expensive relative to the other cars, and given the lack of competition there are rumors they might drop out. Especially Toyota, after missing the promised land at Le Mans so many times by just terrible luck.
I don't think Toyota would spend all the money on it if it wasn't. I'm sure they also want to make a poster with the TS050 and a Prius next to each other, to try and add some appeal to their general appliance look.
Apparently the #7's clutch was broken by a fake marshal who was a driver from another team running out and telling the #7 to go while waiting for the Safety Car. https://streamable.com/kvdca
At Le Mans, there are 3 safety cars, and when you pit, you can only exit when one comes around and you join at the back of it. The #7 was stopped at the end of the pit lane by a real marshal, and that marshal went away to stop other cars who pit. Someone then ran out, told the #7 to go, which it did, and then it was told to stop again, and then start when the train came around. The way LMP1H cars work is not at all intended for this herky jerky start stop because the clutch is only usually engaged once they are at speed on the electric motor and it burned the clutch out, causing the failure.
So Toyota lost the #7 to people being assholes, they lost the #9 to idiot LMP2 drivers, and they lost the #8 to the same freak failure that the winning #2 car had.
Toyota is mega-cursed, but whoever that driver is needs to be banned from WEC for a long ass time.
8 April -- Shanghai, China*
15 April -- Sakhir, Bahrain
29 April -- Baku, Azerbaijan
13 May -- Barcelona, Spain
27 May -- Monte Carlo, Monaco
10 June -- Montreal, Canada
24 June -- Le Castellet, France
1 July -- Spielberg, Austria
8 July -- Silverstone, Great Britain
22 July -- Hockenheim, Germany
29 July -- Budapest, Hungary
26 August -- Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
2 September -- Monza, Italy
16 September -- Marina Bay, Singapore*
30 September -- Sochi, Russia
7 October -- Suzuka, Japan
21 October -- Austin, USA
28 October -- Mexico City, Mexico
11 November -- Sao Paulo, Brazil
25 November -- Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi
Malaysia is gone, as we knew was happening; Azerbaijan moves to April; Russia goes to the end of September; and France and Germany return, making a six-weekend span with five races in it!
China and Singapore await final confirmation but I'd be surprised if anything goes wrong with them.
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He's been fined apparently, and obviously apologized. But yeah, his story is "I wanted to say "good going!" to the lead car and yeah obviously that was dumb"
If you haven't, and you have the equipment to do so, I highly recommend trying the 919 Hybrid in Assetto Corsa. It's the 2015 model, so it's not exactly like this years, but it still gives you a taste of the acceleration those 1000 bhp hybrids can get coming out of a corner. It's breath taking (especially in VR).
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Frustrating to see Hamilton lose out on what looked like a comfortable race win due to a faulty headrest but there isn't much you can do at that point.
Vettel was incredibly lucky. I would definitely have considered a disqualification for his shenanigans under the safety car. His only mitigating factor is that he was merely reckless rather than deliberate (he supposedly didn't have his hands on the wheel) but reckless driving leading to a collision under a safety car is not a good look - especially when the initial collision was his own fault. He was also incredibly lucky that timing on his penalty vs Hamilton's headrest meant he gained on Hamilton in the championship! Refusing to acknowledge reckless driving was pretty damned pathetic too.
Bottas had a good recovery drive but it was his own mistake that put him there. He was likewise lucky not to receive anything for the damage he did to Kimi's car.
Ricciardo kinda lucked out on the win but credit for his move on the Williams at the restart. Verstappen just has terrible luck. I have little doubt that he missed out on a potential win (given how things shook out) due to engine failure.
Terrible day for the Force India's. Was hoping to see them score a podium and all round good points. Taking each other out is never a good way to go but haven't seen a clear replay of what happened yet.
Congrats to Stroll though. He was on pace this weekend and generally a bit faster than Massa. I'd hope the confidence boost from this will drive him forward a bit.
Oh and McLaren got points! I was expecting the engine to blow (and they did have electric issues as usual) but they survived somehow.
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In short Hamilton did absolutely nothing wrong or unexpected at that corner, Vettel drove into the back of him on his own. Vettel was then found to have steered into Hamilton. He got away with the 10 second stop-go and 3 points on his license, bringing him to 9 total. 3 more before silverstone would net him a race ban.
Frankly it should have been a disqualification. Deliberate contact is not something that should be tolerated especially when it's under safety car regulations. That Vettel refused to even acknowledge what he did during or after the race is really poor form and not a good look for him.
hamilton would have won in a walk except he had effectively his own 10 second stop go with the headrest breaking.
A 10s stop go is a strong penalty, but intentional collisions justify the harshest possible penalty - disqualification.
They never issue DQs in F1, and minor taps that don't do anything are never going to cause them. They won't DQ for anything short of intentionally pit manuvering someone into a wall, and even then i doubt it. a 10s stop and go is perhaps even excessive given the current f1 penalty regime.
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That said, I thought this supposed to be a race, not a demolition derby. Sooooo many crashes, many of them unforced.
Very entertaining race, though.
And regarding Vettel, what he did was ridiculously unprofessional and dangerous - but I have a feeling it wasn't his intention to actually ram Hamilton. I think it was him acting angrily and playing games on the track. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and he deserved the penalty.
As a Canadian, I'm super happy with Stroll, though. He had a run of bad luck, most of which was not his fault, but even when he wasn't being affected by circumstance he wasn't performing and his panic during the safety car in Monaco wasn't very encouraging. However, he showed stability and consistency in Baku, and hopefully this means he'll be more in line with Massa from here on out. I'm hopeful! I would like there to still be a Canadian driver in F1 in 2018!
I don't like merc or ferrari and wish they'd both crash out every race. Does it count as handwaving when he got a 10 second stop and go, a huge penalty in F1? Ya'll want Vettel to be drawn and quartered for a collision that didn't even damage the cars.
The 10 second stop-and-go was clearly not enough since Vettel managed to finish 6 seconds off the leader in the end! The penalty should have put him at the back of the lead lap.
And all the more worse for Hamilton since the headrest problem meant he got zero advantage from the penalty.
Sergio Perez has got to be pissed - his teammate puts him into the wall and ruins his race, which turns out to be a race he could have won!
Also a pity that Stroll got passed in the last 100m by Bottas.
Here's Vettel's apology
Of course it's overpriced, but whateves. Wallet, hat and way-too-small shirt (Their shirts are super form fitting, so it's entirely inappropriate for a fat guy to wear). Sticking with my Mclaren, Alonso's number, because there will be good times again.
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