Just as a note, I rate games by their stories. So Mario's, whose hasn't changed in any significant or lasting way over decades, is just boring to me. Every time I see a new Mario game I tune it out automatically because I know it's going to be more of the same. That's fine for some people, but there's a reason I play RPG's and other story-heavy games almost exclusively.
theres a difference between not liking something and implying that its a shell of its former self that only is used to make money
It's not a shell of its former self, it's the same thing it was decades ago, there's a difference. Shell of its former self implies it's gotten worse over time, but it hasn't. If anything Nintendo has perfected the formula. Withered husk however means that something has become dry and shriveled. This is Mario, more of the same, time and time again, brought out because it's a guaranteed cash cow. They're good games, by other people's standards, but when a story refuses to change over the course of literal decades in any meaningful fashion then it is absolutely a withered husk, wrung dry long ago of everything I'd find interesting.
This is a really, really weird way to look at something
Mario doesn't give a shit about its story and has never made any allusions that it does
You are looking at an apple and calling it a bad orange
Mario is NOT the same thing over and over, it innovates constantly
Just because its not in the area you like doesn't make any of the things you said true
Just as a note, I rate games by their stories. So Mario's, whose hasn't changed in any significant or lasting way over decades, is just boring to me. Every time I see a new Mario game I tune it out automatically because I know it's going to be more of the same. That's fine for some people, but there's a reason I play RPG's and other story-heavy games almost exclusively.
theres a difference between not liking something and implying that its a shell of its former self that only is used to make money
It's not a shell of its former self, it's the same thing it was decades ago, there's a difference. Shell of its former self implies it's gotten worse over time, but it hasn't. If anything Nintendo has perfected the formula. Withered husk however means that something has become dry and shriveled. This is Mario, more of the same, time and time again, brought out because it's a guaranteed cash cow. They're good games, by other people's standards, but when a story refuses to change over the course of literal decades in any meaningful fashion then it is absolutely a withered husk, wrung dry long ago of everything I'd find interesting.
it absolutely is not the same thing it was at the start. That is insane.
I keep saying I'm talking about the story but people don't seem to notice.
Also Mario did have a story. Was a pretty basic one but that's alright. Plumber goes to save a princess from a giant lizard king. That was interesting. This wasn't some seasoned warrior hurtling through hell and back, it was a plumber, a craftsman forced into this quest by his own morals. This was Mario's story.
I keep saying I'm talking about the story but people don't seem to notice.
Also Mario did have a story. Was a pretty basic one but that's alright. Plumber goes to save a princess from a giant lizard king. That was interesting. This wasn't some seasoned warrior hurtling through hell and back, it was a plumber, a craftsman forced into this quest by his own morals. This was Mario's story.
dude you are reading way too far into the story of mario.
I keep saying I'm talking about the story but people don't seem to notice.
Also Mario did have a story. Was a pretty basic one but that's alright. Plumber goes to save a princess from a giant lizard king. That was interesting. This wasn't some seasoned warrior hurtling through hell and back, it was a plumber, a craftsman forced into this quest by his own morals. This was Mario's story.
No, you're talking about the game
the thing is the story is all you care about, but you are referring to the product as a whole
other people care about other aspects of the game, so that creates a problem
You said "Mario is a withered corpse"
That is incorrect. You may think it is from a story standpoint because to you thats what matters, but it isnt the same to other people
they call him a plumber but it's not like...he is a plumber. He jumps into pipes and jumps really high and kicks turtles.
Saying that the mario series is a withered husk that nintendo trots out to make money is not the same thing as saying you are not interested in the story. That is making a large generalization that the series, as a whole, has no redeeming value and is not bringing anything to the table.
That is not the case. Mario doesn't care about the story, the mario games are, to one extent or another, innovating on platforming as a genre.
An analogous comparison would be to say that Sonic is a withered husk of what it was and gets trotted out etc. Sonic is not innovating on any level, it's just garbage.
I keep saying I'm talking about the story but people don't seem to notice.
Also Mario did have a story. Was a pretty basic one but that's alright. Plumber goes to save a princess from a giant lizard king. That was interesting. This wasn't some seasoned warrior hurtling through hell and back, it was a plumber, a craftsman forced into this quest by his own morals. This was Mario's story.
No, you're talking about the game
the thing is the story is all you care about, but you are referring to the product as a whole
other people care about other aspects of the game, so that creates a problem
You said "Mario is a withered corpse"
That is incorrect. You may think it is from a story standpoint because to you thats what matters, but it isnt the same to other people
And then I clarified. You saw this clarification. To continue to assume it's about anything other than the story is ignoring that clarification and pretty much putting words into my mouth by placing your own context over what I say. This is a goose thing to do.
I keep saying I'm talking about the story but people don't seem to notice.
Also Mario did have a story. Was a pretty basic one but that's alright. Plumber goes to save a princess from a giant lizard king. That was interesting. This wasn't some seasoned warrior hurtling through hell and back, it was a plumber, a craftsman forced into this quest by his own morals. This was Mario's story.
No, you're talking about the game
the thing is the story is all you care about, but you are referring to the product as a whole
other people care about other aspects of the game, so that creates a problem
You said "Mario is a withered corpse"
That is incorrect. You may think it is from a story standpoint because to you thats what matters, but it isnt the same to other people
And then I clarified. You saw this clarification. To continue to assume it's about anything other than the story is ignoring that clarification and pretty much putting words into my mouth by placing your own context over what I say. This is a goose thing to do.
No dude, that's not what happened
It's not a shell of its former self, it's the same thing it was decades ago, there's a difference. Shell of its former self implies it's gotten worse over time, but it hasn't. If anything Nintendo has perfected the formula. Withered husk however means that something has become dry and shriveled. This is Mario, more of the same, time and time again, brought out because it's a guaranteed cash cow. They're good games, by other people's standards, but when a story refuses to change over the course of literal decades in any meaningful fashion then it is absolutely a withered husk, wrung dry long ago of everything I'd find interesting
This sentence still says mario is the same over and over and that its just there to make money
You don't say you are talking about the story
you say "mario"
the whole thing
And you say that when mario refuses to change its story it is a withered husk
you are making an enormous generalization where you assume that what matters to you about games is ALL that matters about games
But what if you went through some crazy narrative while getting all 120 Stars?
You didn't get the political metaphors?
The stars are like... The electoral vote. And Mario represents the electoral college. Only instead of letting the stars decide what they want to do, he forces them into a position where they'll do what he wants to (IE Gerrymandering)
Bowser is actually the hero, as he wants to take the stars so they can do their own thing.
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally dont care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally only care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
Why do you automatically assume RPG means only JRPG? Or that I can't do both reading and gaming? I mean is there something stopping me from reading a book for a couple chapters, playing a game for a bit, then doing my own writing with what I've picked up from both?
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
alright dude, just keep moving those goalposts
Nothing's moved. I said "significant or lasting change" on the last page and haven't changed stance since.
I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally only care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
Why do you automatically assume RPG means only JRPG? Or that I can't do both reading and gaming? I mean is there something stopping me from reading a book for a couple chapters, playing a game for a bit, then doing my own writing with what I've picked up from both?
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
alright dude, just keep moving those goalposts
Nothing's moved. I said "significant or lasting change" on the last page and haven't changed stance since.
If literally all you care about in a game is story, there are essentially 0 games that tell a better story than any good book or movie
I somehow feel like I missed large swathes of what the hell Galaxy's plot was about
Bowser destabilizes the universe to make a Bowser Galaxy
Mario stops him but the universe implodes.
Every Luma including Silver enters the epicenter and goes off allowing Rosalina to restart it.
Rosalina creates and exact copy of the old universe and Mario is seemingly the only one who remembers the events of the game
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I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally only care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
Why do you automatically assume RPG means only JRPG? Or that I can't do both reading and gaming? I mean is there something stopping me from reading a book for a couple chapters, playing a game for a bit, then doing my own writing with what I've picked up from both?
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
alright dude, just keep moving those goalposts
Nothing's moved. I said "significant or lasting change" on the last page and haven't changed stance since.
If literally all you care about in a game is story, there are essentially 0 games that tell a better story than any good book or movie
I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally only care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
Why do you automatically assume RPG means only JRPG? Or that I can't do both reading and gaming? I mean is there something stopping me from reading a book for a couple chapters, playing a game for a bit, then doing my own writing with what I've picked up from both?
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
alright dude, just keep moving those goalposts
Nothing's moved. I said "significant or lasting change" on the last page and haven't changed stance since.
If literally all you care about in a game is story, there are essentially 0 games that tell a better story than any good book or movie
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SotC
Portal
Portal 2
Earthbound
Mother 3
What's out so far of Kentucky Route Zero
Metal Gear Solid 2
Silent Hill 2
That is more or less an exhaustive list of games I know of with stories that fully rise above rote pulp genre fiction (and at least some of those are pretty contentious)
If you're not playing one of those and you exclusively care about good story, then you are wasting your time playing video games, because you could be spending your time with a better story
I have said repeatedly that the Mario games are good games, by other people's standards. As in what I'm saying are my standards and what I consider to be good, the key words being the personal pronouns. As in my opinions. And to me? Yes, the story IS the only thing that matters in a game, for the most part. There are exceptions, but I want a reason why I am playing a game, why I'm exploring a world and going on a quest. I can forgive everything else about a game if there's a good story to be had.
That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally only care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
Why do you automatically assume RPG means only JRPG? Or that I can't do both reading and gaming? I mean is there something stopping me from reading a book for a couple chapters, playing a game for a bit, then doing my own writing with what I've picked up from both?
I think it's unfair to say that the "story" of mario hasn't changed
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
alright dude, just keep moving those goalposts
Nothing's moved. I said "significant or lasting change" on the last page and haven't changed stance since.
If literally all you care about in a game is story, there are essentially 0 games that tell a better story than any good book or movie
Last of us
putting aside my personal feelings on last of us
no, not even close
the last of us is a good game story
its not even close to any good post apocalypse book, or even film
to be clear, this isn't me bashing games
I'm saying that if Madican Truly, TRULY doesn't care about ANY ASPECT of the game but story, he is spending his time unwisely
my GUESS is that he actually does and either doesn't realize it or is denying it for some other reason
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This is a really, really weird way to look at something
Mario doesn't give a shit about its story and has never made any allusions that it does
You are looking at an apple and calling it a bad orange
Mario is NOT the same thing over and over, it innovates constantly
Just because its not in the area you like doesn't make any of the things you said true
it absolutely is not the same thing it was at the start. That is insane.
Also Mario did have a story. Was a pretty basic one but that's alright. Plumber goes to save a princess from a giant lizard king. That was interesting. This wasn't some seasoned warrior hurtling through hell and back, it was a plumber, a craftsman forced into this quest by his own morals. This was Mario's story.
Wah
dude you are reading way too far into the story of mario.
No, you're talking about the game
the thing is the story is all you care about, but you are referring to the product as a whole
other people care about other aspects of the game, so that creates a problem
You said "Mario is a withered corpse"
That is incorrect. You may think it is from a story standpoint because to you thats what matters, but it isnt the same to other people
I don't see your point
they call him a plumber but it's not like...he is a plumber. He jumps into pipes and jumps really high and kicks turtles.
Saying that the mario series is a withered husk that nintendo trots out to make money is not the same thing as saying you are not interested in the story. That is making a large generalization that the series, as a whole, has no redeeming value and is not bringing anything to the table.
That is not the case. Mario doesn't care about the story, the mario games are, to one extent or another, innovating on platforming as a genre.
An analogous comparison would be to say that Sonic is a withered husk of what it was and gets trotted out etc. Sonic is not innovating on any level, it's just garbage.
And then I clarified. You saw this clarification. To continue to assume it's about anything other than the story is ignoring that clarification and pretty much putting words into my mouth by placing your own context over what I say. This is a goose thing to do.
No dude, that's not what happened
This sentence still says mario is the same over and over and that its just there to make money
You don't say you are talking about the story
you say "mario"
the whole thing
And you say that when mario refuses to change its story it is a withered husk
you are making an enormous generalization where you assume that what matters to you about games is ALL that matters about games
I mean, I don't need one
But what if you went through some crazy narrative while getting all 120 Stars?
This is highly narrative stuff here
You didn't get the political metaphors?
The stars are like... The electoral vote. And Mario represents the electoral college. Only instead of letting the stars decide what they want to do, he forces them into a position where they'll do what he wants to (IE Gerrymandering)
Bowser is actually the hero, as he wants to take the stars so they can do their own thing.
it definitely qualifies as a narrative
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Rosalina is god
super mario bros. is about mario saving peach and the mushroom kingdom from bowser
smb2 takes place in a weird dream world where you fight a giant frog
smb3 is a stage play
super mario world is about mario and yoshi saving dinosaur land from bowser and the koopa kids
super mario 64 is about reclaiming peach's castle from bowser by jumping into bizarre painting worlds
super mario sunshine is about cleaning up a tropical island that was vandalized by shadow mario
super mario galaxy and smg2 are about space adventures
the new super mario bros. series are the only ones that follow the same plot as the first game
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there were like...stars
and, you got them
and a woman with white hair needed them
then you gave them to her
and...you got the princess back?
that's all I got.
I said meaningful way. Mario and Peach's relationship doesn't seem to change. Bowser keeps being Bowser for whatever reasons he has. There are characters with character in Mario, such as the Paper Mario games where dialogue can be pretty good (and I played them because of the story/dialogue), but they don't show up in the platformers with that level of character.
Super Mario Sunshine is the only one that kind of shook things up by implying Baby Bowser was Peach's child. That was new and it's also the last Mario game I played. It threatened to upset the status quo and then...didn't. Things remained the same, and that's when I was done with the series.
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That's because your standards are batshit
Like if you literally dont care about anything other than the story then why are you even playing games
Spend your game playing time reading novels and watching films, they have on average much better writing than random JRPG schlock
http://www.audioentropy.com/
alright dude, just keep moving those goalposts
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http://www.audioentropy.com/
Why do you automatically assume RPG means only JRPG? Or that I can't do both reading and gaming? I mean is there something stopping me from reading a book for a couple chapters, playing a game for a bit, then doing my own writing with what I've picked up from both?
Nothing's moved. I said "significant or lasting change" on the last page and haven't changed stance since.
If literally all you care about in a game is story, there are essentially 0 games that tell a better story than any good book or movie
Mario stops him but the universe implodes.
Every Luma including Silver enters the epicenter and goes off allowing Rosalina to restart it.
Rosalina creates and exact copy of the old universe and Mario is seemingly the only one who remembers the events of the game
Last of us
A Wii u
Nintendoland
Mario 3d world
Wind waker
Smash bros
And a pro controller
Coming to my house tomorrow
I hope you're goddamn happy, Nintendo thread
(i am pretty happy)
ico
SotC
Portal
Portal 2
Earthbound
Mother 3
What's out so far of Kentucky Route Zero
Metal Gear Solid 2
Silent Hill 2
That is more or less an exhaustive list of games I know of with stories that fully rise above rote pulp genre fiction (and at least some of those are pretty contentious)
If you're not playing one of those and you exclusively care about good story, then you are wasting your time playing video games, because you could be spending your time with a better story
http://www.audioentropy.com/
putting aside my personal feelings on last of us
no, not even close
the last of us is a good game story
its not even close to any good post apocalypse book, or even film
to be clear, this isn't me bashing games
I'm saying that if Madican Truly, TRULY doesn't care about ANY ASPECT of the game but story, he is spending his time unwisely
my GUESS is that he actually does and either doesn't realize it or is denying it for some other reason