I dunno, as engaging as a good videogame is, nothing has ever been able to immerse me the way a good book does. When I finish a good game, I feel drained, like I gave something of myself to it. When I finish a good book, I feel energized. Different people respond best to different forms of stimuli, I guess.
What the hell is wrong with you guys, you are being extremely shitty to Madican
The way the player interacts with the story of a videogame is significantly different than any other medium. Telling Madican to go read a book if he enjoys stories is asinine. Playing through the story of a game is a fundamentally different experience than reading a book or watching a movie.
Like, it's implied that he specifically is talking about the stories of video games right, and the way playing though the game influences the experience of that story? Not just stories in general? That doesn't need to be made explicit because it should be obvious because of the topic of discussion?
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What the hell is wrong with you guys, you are being extremely shitty to Madican
The way the player interacts with the story of a videogame is significantly different than any other medium. Telling Madican to go read a book if he enjoys stories is asinine. Playing through the story of a game is a fundamentally different experience than reading a book or watching a movie.
Like, it's implied that he specifically is talking about the stories of video games right, and the way playing though the game influences the experience of that story? Not just stories in general? That doesn't need to be made explicit because it should be obvious because of the topic of discussion?
Madican framed their entire derision of the Mario series around its story, declaring story more important than anything. Through argument they eventually listed out games they enjoyed which indicated what they really meant was story interacting with gameplay is more important than anything. This is an extremely important distinction that completely reframes the argument and it wasn't until that point it became clear what their reasoning for deriding Mario for "not having a story" was based on.
What the hell is wrong with you guys, you are being extremely shitty to Madican
The way the player interacts with the story of a videogame is significantly different than any other medium. Telling Madican to go read a book if he enjoys stories is asinine. Playing through the story of a game is a fundamentally different experience than reading a book or watching a movie.
Like, it's implied that he specifically is talking about the stories of video games right, and the way playing though the game influences the experience of that story? Not just stories in general? That doesn't need to be made explicit because it should be obvious because of the topic of discussion?
Madican framed their entire derision of the Mario series around its story, declaring story more important than anything. Through argument they eventually listed out games they enjoyed which indicated what they really meant was story interacting with gameplay is more important than anything. This is an extremely important distinction that completely reframes the argument and it wasn't until that point it became clear what their reasoning for deriding Mario for "not having a story" was based on.
"Story" in this case is shorthand for "the way the gameplay interacts with the narrative." This should not have to be explicitly stated because that's the way videogame stories work. In the case of Mario, if I understand him correctly, he doesn't feel that the narrative you interact with is compelling. Which is perfectly reasonable!
What the hell is wrong with you guys, you are being extremely shitty to Madican
The way the player interacts with the story of a videogame is significantly different than any other medium. Telling Madican to go read a book if he enjoys stories is asinine. Playing through the story of a game is a fundamentally different experience than reading a book or watching a movie.
Like, it's implied that he specifically is talking about the stories of video games right, and the way playing though the game influences the experience of that story? Not just stories in general? That doesn't need to be made explicit because it should be obvious because of the topic of discussion?
I was giving them guff for calling something a lazy cash in because it did not cater to their specific tastes
As to the "story", madican was specifically discussing plot, which can be seen through him saying the story of Mario is that Mario saves the princess over and over
My point in saying that they might want to read books was that they actually DO care about more things in games than just the plot, because the plots in games are largely pretty bad and inferior to other mediums, and if they TRULY cared only about plot, games are not where you should be
Further discussion showed this was the case and that there are other things about the game that influence their enjoyment.
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Hey if you want to watch a three page argument about whether Mario games are bad because their story isn't compelling keep going ad infinitum then be my guest. Seems a little tiresome to me tho
What the hell is wrong with you guys, you are being extremely shitty to Madican
The way the player interacts with the story of a videogame is significantly different than any other medium. Telling Madican to go read a book if he enjoys stories is asinine. Playing through the story of a game is a fundamentally different experience than reading a book or watching a movie.
Like, it's implied that he specifically is talking about the stories of video games right, and the way playing though the game influences the experience of that story? Not just stories in general? That doesn't need to be made explicit because it should be obvious because of the topic of discussion?
Madican framed their entire derision of the Mario series around its story, declaring story more important than anything. Through argument they eventually listed out games they enjoyed which indicated what they really meant was story interacting with gameplay is more important than anything. This is an extremely important distinction that completely reframes the argument and it wasn't until that point it became clear what their reasoning for deriding Mario for "not having a story" was based on.
"Story" in this case is shorthand for "the way the gameplay interacts with the narrative." This should not have to be explicitly stated because that's the way videogame stories work. In the case of Mario, if I understand him correctly, he doesn't feel that the narrative you interact with is compelling. Which is perfectly reasonable!
Madican was talking specifically about plot
Because they say that marios story is Mario saves the princess
Your definition of story would have the story being significantly different for each Mario game
My understanding is that for a while metroid has been unpopular in Japan, and then other m was unpopular in America, which might lead one to believe that nintendo is shelving the series for the time being
But hey e3 is almost here maybe they'll surprise us
Of course, other m has kind of made me wary of whether I even WANT a new metroid
is metroid really part of the big three nintendos anymore
I think it's actually kirby at this point, if we're not counting pokemon (since that's basically handheld-only)
The question wasn't about franchises though, it was those specific three games from the 80's. Metroid's the obvious answer because I think someone may have already done this and we're the only ones who remember the original timeline.
Nintendo just doesn't do conferences anymore, they do a special Direct (which is basically just a cheaper, easier way to do a conference) and they absolutely have a booth there
Sega isn't going this year, and Nintendo just isn't showing Zelda
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No, those stories most video game. Not best.
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The way the player interacts with the story of a videogame is significantly different than any other medium. Telling Madican to go read a book if he enjoys stories is asinine. Playing through the story of a game is a fundamentally different experience than reading a book or watching a movie.
Like, it's implied that he specifically is talking about the stories of video games right, and the way playing though the game influences the experience of that story? Not just stories in general? That doesn't need to be made explicit because it should be obvious because of the topic of discussion?
This was unnecessary.
I'm canceling my Wii u order and I'm leaving and yes it is because of all of you
Madican framed their entire derision of the Mario series around its story, declaring story more important than anything. Through argument they eventually listed out games they enjoyed which indicated what they really meant was story interacting with gameplay is more important than anything. This is an extremely important distinction that completely reframes the argument and it wasn't until that point it became clear what their reasoning for deriding Mario for "not having a story" was based on.
"Story" in this case is shorthand for "the way the gameplay interacts with the narrative." This should not have to be explicitly stated because that's the way videogame stories work. In the case of Mario, if I understand him correctly, he doesn't feel that the narrative you interact with is compelling. Which is perfectly reasonable!
I was giving them guff for calling something a lazy cash in because it did not cater to their specific tastes
As to the "story", madican was specifically discussing plot, which can be seen through him saying the story of Mario is that Mario saves the princess over and over
My point in saying that they might want to read books was that they actually DO care about more things in games than just the plot, because the plots in games are largely pretty bad and inferior to other mediums, and if they TRULY cared only about plot, games are not where you should be
Further discussion showed this was the case and that there are other things about the game that influence their enjoyment.
Madican was talking specifically about plot
Because they say that marios story is Mario saves the princess
Your definition of story would have the story being significantly different for each Mario game
Its not that they're bad!
But they have the least impact on games as a whole
zelda and mario respectively, duh
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And i know that many people are going to tell me that's the wrong choice and i understand that completely
But i'd do it in a second if it meant Nintendo's mainline franchise was Metroid
And also i can't lose Wind Waker
no he said marry
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Forget that guy
You will get no kind of commitment from him
It'll just be a sea of empty promises
I think it's actually kirby at this point, if we're not counting pokemon (since that's basically handheld-only)
Its a shame because metroid prime is better than any Kirby game ever
Except isn't Star Fox getting a new game?
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But hey e3 is almost here maybe they'll surprise us
Of course, other m has kind of made me wary of whether I even WANT a new metroid
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The question wasn't about franchises though, it was those specific three games from the 80's. Metroid's the obvious answer because I think someone may have already done this and we're the only ones who remember the original timeline.
Nintendo just doesn't do conferences anymore, they do a special Direct (which is basically just a cheaper, easier way to do a conference) and they absolutely have a booth there
Sega isn't going this year, and Nintendo just isn't showing Zelda