SPECIAL UPDATE: [SUPERHERO] WAR!!!

Undead Scottsman

WAR HAS CHANGED!

CIVIL WAR IN THE MCU!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43NWzay3W4s

WAR BETWEEN GAINING INTEREST AND SPOILERS IN BATMAN V SUPERMAN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fis-9Zqu2Ro

CIVIL WAR II IN MARVEL COMICS! BECAUSE IT WORKED SO WELL THE FIRST TIME!


APOCALYPSE WARS!


SECRET WARS! (IS STILL GOING ON)


SECRET WARS: WARZONES: CIVIL WAR!


WAR! WAR NEVER CHANGES!!!

Grey Ghost

What is Apocalypse Wars

Munkus Beaver

JESSICA!


JESSICA!!!!

BlankZoe

Grey Ghost wrote: »

What is Apocalypse Wars

X-Men crossover featuring Apocalypse coming back

Grey Ghost

Blankzilla wrote: »

Grey Ghost wrote: »

What is Apocalypse Wars

X-Men crossover featuring Apocalypse coming back

Snooooooze

Undead Scottsman

Grey Ghost wrote: »

What is Apocalypse Wars

X-Men Crossover scheduled for next year
http://www.newsarama.com/27034-report-apocalypse-wars-x-men-crossover-in-2016.html

PiptheFair

man dawn of justice looks awful

wirehead26

Pretty hyped to read Secret Wars 8 this week.

UnbrokenEva

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

Grey Ghost wrote: »

What is Apocalypse Wars

X-Men crossover featuring Apocalypse coming back

Snooooooze

What makes it interesting to me is that it seems that Evan/Genesis is NOT becoming Apocalypse in it, so we'll have the potential of Apocalypse vs his heroic kid clone

Munkus Beaver

Batman shouldering a rifle?

Synder giving the people what they want! PRELUDE TO THE JUSTICE LORDS

PaperLuigi44

I decided to marathon through S3 of Arrow, and woof. I knew about a lot of the issues ahead of time but even then

Whole season spoilers

I know she's back next season/in Legends of Tomorrow, but killing off Sara was a tremendous fuck-up on multiple levels. As was keeping her death from Quentin. God, when Nyssa chewed out Laurel for keeping another secret (Oliver accepting Ra's deal) I immediately thought 'Thank you'. Then there was Ray being a creepy stalker, Laurel being a crap Canary, Quentin going off the rails and Felicity crying in almost. every. episode. There's more but those were some of the big issues I had. That DJ plot was dumb, but I kinda think that dude has a future in VA work.

There were some bright spots, Roy as Arsenal is awesome, shame he had to leave. Although I'm up for Thea joining the team (something I wouldn't have been found dead saying at the start of season 1).

I can only imagine the life of a CW writer.

"Oh, have you told Mike that the milk has gone bad?"

"No. He can never know, it would destroy him."

Ceno

http://youtu.be/yfl6Lu3xQW0

Undead Scottsman

Oh hey, I didn't notice there was a description for the Iron Fist show in that Buck announcement

Returning to New York City after being missing for years, Daniel Rand fights against the criminal element corrupting New York City with his incredible kung-fu mastery and ability to summon the awesome power of the fiery Iron Fist.

Sounds like it'll be based on his early, pre-Power Man stories.

Xehalus

good god, y'all

Tox

Undead Scottsman wrote: »

Oh hey, I didn't notice there was a description for the Iron Fist show in that Buck announcement

blah blah Danny Rand blah blah mysterious island blah blah you get the joke

Sounds like it'll be based on his early, pre-Power Man stories.

PiptheFair

PaperLuigi44 wrote: »

I decided to marathon through S3 of Arrow, and woof. I knew about a lot of the issues ahead of time but even then

Whole season spoilers

I know she's back next season/in Legends of Tomorrow, but killing off Sara was a tremendous fuck-up on multiple levels. As was keeping her death from Quentin. God, when Nyssa chewed out Laurel for keeping another secret (Oliver accepting Ra's deal) I immediately thought 'Thank you'. Then there was Ray being a creepy stalker, Laurel being a crap Canary, Quentin going off the rails and Felicity crying in almost. every. episode. There's more but those were some of the big issues I had. That DJ plot was dumb, but I kinda think that dude has a future in VA work.

There were some bright spots, Roy as Arsenal is awesome, shame he had to leave. Although I'm up for Thea joining the team (something I wouldn't have been found dead saying at the start of season 1).

I can only imagine the life of a CW writer.

"Oh, have you told Mike that the milk has gone bad?"

"No. He can never know, it would destroy him."

about roy

coulton has confirmed he will be back

as for the rest

the season was really good and really bad at the same time

Centipede Damascus

Fearghaill wrote: »

Grey Ghost wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

Grey Ghost wrote: »

What is Apocalypse Wars

X-Men crossover featuring Apocalypse coming back

Snooooooze

What makes it interesting to me is that it seems that Evan/Genesis is NOT becoming Apocalypse in it, so we'll have the potential of Apocalypse vs his heroic kid clone

I am totally up for a good showdown between Genesis and Apocalypse

Munkus Beaver

EVANGELION?

BlankZoe

So the costume designer for BvS accidentally let slip a character appearing in the film that hadn't been confirmed

Flash appears, in costume

So we have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash appearing in the movie

So yeah almost certainly gonna end with a Justice League shot

KingofMadCows

Blankzilla wrote: »

So the costume designer for BvS accidentally let slip a character appearing in the film that hadn't been confirmed

Flash appears, in costume

So we have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash appearing in the movie

So yeah almost certainly gonna end with a Justice League shot

I'm going to guess that

the other Justice League characters are actually going to show up in a vision of the future. It'll be related to the Knightmare desert scene with the Superman soldiers/cultists and flying things/parademons. I'm guessing that will be a future where the super powered people have been turned evil by Darkseid and they've raised armies and the world has been divided up between Superman, Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg, etc., kind of like a combination of the Justice Lords and the Crime Syndicate. That'll also play into the gods vs. humanity theme. There's a bad future where the superheroes fashion themselves to be gods and force people to worship them.

Wonder Woman is the one who got that prophecy/vision from the oracles and that's why she left Themyscira. She's going to gather up all the super powered people so she could create the Justice League, prevent that dark future, and combat Darkseid. Then they could have her show up in other movies to recruit the other heroes.

Dedwrekka

Blankzilla wrote: »

So the costume designer for BvS accidentally let slip a character appearing in the film that hadn't been confirmed

Flash appears, in costume

So we have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash appearing in the movie

So yeah almost certainly gonna end with a Justice League shot

I will pay to see the movie if Flash appears for the first time in the movie, with no other explanation, in every picture of Superman at the Daily Planet, giving him rabbit ears.

Stilts

Dedwrekka wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

So the costume designer for BvS accidentally let slip a character appearing in the film that hadn't been confirmed

Flash appears, in costume

So we have Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash appearing in the movie

So yeah almost certainly gonna end with a Justice League shot

I will pay to see the movie if Flash appears for the first time in the movie, with no other explanation, in every picture of Superman at the Daily Planet, giving him rabbit ears.

That would require the movie to have a sense of humor.

Goatmon

PiptheFair wrote: »

PaperLuigi44 wrote: »

I decided to marathon through S3 of Arrow, and woof. I knew about a lot of the issues ahead of time but even then

Whole season spoilers

I know she's back next season/in Legends of Tomorrow, but killing off Sara was a tremendous fuck-up on multiple levels. As was keeping her death from Quentin. God, when Nyssa chewed out Laurel for keeping another secret (Oliver accepting Ra's deal) I immediately thought 'Thank you'. Then there was Ray being a creepy stalker, Laurel being a crap Canary, Quentin going off the rails and Felicity crying in almost. every. episode. There's more but those were some of the big issues I had. That DJ plot was dumb, but I kinda think that dude has a future in VA work.

There were some bright spots, Roy as Arsenal is awesome, shame he had to leave. Although I'm up for Thea joining the team (something I wouldn't have been found dead saying at the start of season 1).

I can only imagine the life of a CW writer.

"Oh, have you told Mike that the milk has gone bad?"

"No. He can never know, it would destroy him."

about roy

coulton has confirmed he will be back

as for the rest

the season was really good and really bad at the same time

It had some really great bits, particularly

Ra's who owns every scene he's in.

Fun fact: Liam Neeson almost reprised that role, but was busy with other work and couldn't make it happen.

Ray Palmer's bits are neat, but it made some sense when I heard he was supposed to be Ted Kord but DC said no so they wrote Palmer into it instead.

My main beefs with season three are as follows

- The handling of Felicity, who basically has zero agency and is tossed between boyfriends with little to no say in any of it.

- The decline in the quality of fight scenes. Like, season 3 just stopped trying to make things seem tense. Everything got kinda formulaic and predictable. I just stopped feeling like the gang was ever in any real danger. S4 hasn't really fixed this.

- The show's desperation to make everyone care about the plot with one silly drama bomb after another. WHO KILLED SARA? Wait, was it Merlyn? No! Was it Roy? NO! it was Thea! Who was being mind controlled by Merlyn! Who is now blackmailing Ollie to fight Ra's al Ghul by threatening to throw his own daughter under the bus! DUN DUNNNN

Oh shit now Ollie's going to be the new Ra's! But he doesn't want to be! Oh no, now Ra's is terrorizing the city! Oh no, now Thea is going to die! Oh no, now Ollie is turning dark side! Oh wait he's faking it. OH NO MERYLN BACKSTABS HIM.

Just

fucking stop it. Please.

And my last beef is just... Laurel. Just fuck Laurel. She's never not been the worst character in the show. Her sister was so much better, and then she got fridged to make Laurel more interesting. Bleugh.

Spoit

SECRET WARS: WARZONES: CIVIL WAR: COLONS (WARS) was pretty good. The art was pretty.

BlankZoe

The best part of Secret Wars: Civil War is

that it is actually a Secret Secret Invasion story

Spoit

So when is the "I'm with whoever" sig thing going to start again?

PaperLuigi44

I'm with Wynn Duffy.

Matev

Goatmon wrote: »

PiptheFair wrote: »

PaperLuigi44 wrote: »

I decided to marathon through S3 of Arrow, and woof. I knew about a lot of the issues ahead of time but even then

Whole season spoilers

I know she's back next season/in Legends of Tomorrow, but killing off Sara was a tremendous fuck-up on multiple levels. As was keeping her death from Quentin. God, when Nyssa chewed out Laurel for keeping another secret (Oliver accepting Ra's deal) I immediately thought 'Thank you'. Then there was Ray being a creepy stalker, Laurel being a crap Canary, Quentin going off the rails and Felicity crying in almost. every. episode. There's more but those were some of the big issues I had. That DJ plot was dumb, but I kinda think that dude has a future in VA work.

There were some bright spots, Roy as Arsenal is awesome, shame he had to leave. Although I'm up for Thea joining the team (something I wouldn't have been found dead saying at the start of season 1).

I can only imagine the life of a CW writer.

"Oh, have you told Mike that the milk has gone bad?"

"No. He can never know, it would destroy him."

about roy

coulton has confirmed he will be back

as for the rest

the season was really good and really bad at the same time

It had some really great bits, particularly

Ra's who owns every scene he's in.

Fun fact: Liam Neeson almost reprised that role, but was busy with other work and couldn't make it happen.

Ray Palmer's bits are neat, but it made some sense when I heard he was supposed to be Ted Kord but DC said no so they wrote Palmer into it instead.

My main beefs with season three are as follows

- The handling of Felicity, who basically has zero agency and is tossed between boyfriends with little to no say in any of it.

- The decline in the quality of fight scenes. Like, season 3 just stopped trying to make things seem tense. Everything got kinda formulaic and predictable. I just stopped feeling like the gang was ever in any real danger. S4 hasn't really fixed this.

- The show's desperation to make everyone care about the plot with one silly drama bomb after another. WHO KILLED SARA? Wait, was it Merlyn? No! Was it Roy? NO! it was Thea! Who was being mind controlled by Merlyn! Who is now blackmailing Ollie to fight Ra's al Ghul by threatening to throw his own daughter under the bus! DUN DUNNNN

Oh shit now Ollie's going to be the new Ra's! But he doesn't want to be! Oh no, now Ra's is terrorizing the city! Oh no, now Thea is going to die! Oh no, now Ollie is turning dark side! Oh wait he's faking it. OH NO MERYLN BACKSTABS HIM.

Just

fucking stop it. Please.

And my last beef is just... Laurel. Just fuck Laurel. She's never not been the worst character in the show. Her sister was so much better, and then she got fridged to make Laurel more interesting. Bleugh.

I would've lost all my shit

If Liam Neeson was on Arrow. He could do actual mystical Ra's so good.

Bucketman

Oh hey did you guys hear Secret Wars #9 got delayed another week?

Undead Scottsman

Bucketman wrote: »

Oh hey did you guys hear Secret Wars #9 got delayed another week?

13th of January last I heard.

Morkath

Oh boy another Civil War.
Because Tony vs Captain hasn't been done before.

I am looking forward to Skrull invasion 2.0!

Wait, aren't the Skrulls are dead? Fuck it, bring them back, Galactus threw up.

BlankZoe

To be fair Tony vs. Sam Wilson hasn't really been done before

I'm still wary but we should probably wait until they unveil the actual plot of the thing instead of just a single teaser image before shitting on it?

Undead Scottsman

Skrulls had their homeworld et by Galactus, a most of their empire wiped out by the Annihilation Wave, their invasion of Earth foiled which lead to their queen dying and finally they got their asses handed to them by the builders to the point where they had to join an alliance that included their mortal enemies, the Kree. They had descending into dozens of factions lead by competing warlords, but after the Builder war, they picked KL'RT the Super Skrull as thier supreme leader. They haven't done much since, given Secret Wars happened immediately afterwards.

Morkath

I dunno, I think at this point it is justified to shit on "Tony vs X". It has been kind of run into the ground lately.

e:
Ah, that was it, thanks Undead!

I skimmed the wiki's but nothing jumped out at me, and I had forgotten they were part of the Builder War. I just remember Galactus eating their planet.

BlankZoe

Morkath wrote: »

I dunno, I think at this point it is justified to shit on "Tony vs X". It has been kind of run into the ground lately.

I mean we don't even know if they're really fighting each other

All we have is a teaser that has them about to punch each other

Which hints at that, yeah, but there have been misleading or mostly inaccurate teasers for events before and they are obviously trying to get that Civil War buzz by plastering the image of CAPTAIN AMERICA VS. IRON MAN everywhere

But Bendis has written 4 events, 3 of which are fantastic (1 Of those probably being the single best event they've done outside of maybe Secret Wars depending on how it ends) and is also writing a pretty great, fun Iron Man book right now so I very much doubt Tony will be in the antagonistic role he is usually shoved into. And with Sam Wilson having one of the most acclaimed books in the relaunch and also being super liberal and proactive and a great hero he likely isn't going to be either.

There's a ton we don't know. I'm tired of heroes fighting each other too but just as Secret Wars only had a few tenuous connections to the original event this might just have a handful of similar themes to CW 1.

Undead Scottsman

Skrulls are just below Korbanites on the "universe's favorite punching bag" list.

DouglasDanger

I don't like weird half mask of Falcon Cap

Chincymcchilla

Blankzilla wrote: »

Morkath wrote: »

I dunno, I think at this point it is justified to shit on "Tony vs X". It has been kind of run into the ground lately.

I mean we don't even know if they're really fighting each other

All we have is a teaser that has them about to punch each other

Which hints at that, yeah, but there have been misleading or mostly inaccurate teasers for events before and they are obviously trying to get that Civil War buzz by plastering the image of CAPTAIN AMERICA VS. IRON MAN everywhere

But Bendis has written 4 events, 3 of which are fantastic (1 Of those probably being the single best event they've done outside of maybe Secret Wars depending on how it ends) and is also writing a pretty great, fun Iron Man book right now so I very much doubt Tony will be in the antagonistic role he is usually shoved into. And with Sam Wilson having one of the most acclaimed books in the relaunch and also being super liberal and proactive and a great hero he likely isn't going to be either.

There's a ton we don't know. I'm tired of heroes fighting each other too but just as Secret Wars only had a few tenuous connections to the original event this might just have a handful of similar themes to CW 1.

Blank while I admire your restraint

The idea that we should wait when the thing they are showing is cap and Tony punching each other seems a bit silly

Like that's what they're advertising

If you don't like that it is perfectly justified to be upset

Muggins

The only good thing about Dawn of Justice is Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor because it's just so simply absurd it comes back around as interesting.

BlankZoe

Chincymcchilla wrote: »

Blankzilla wrote: »

Morkath wrote: »

I dunno, I think at this point it is justified to shit on "Tony vs X". It has been kind of run into the ground lately.

I mean we don't even know if they're really fighting each other

All we have is a teaser that has them about to punch each other

Which hints at that, yeah, but there have been misleading or mostly inaccurate teasers for events before and they are obviously trying to get that Civil War buzz by plastering the image of CAPTAIN AMERICA VS. IRON MAN everywhere

But Bendis has written 4 events, 3 of which are fantastic (1 Of those probably being the single best event they've done outside of maybe Secret Wars depending on how it ends) and is also writing a pretty great, fun Iron Man book right now so I very much doubt Tony will be in the antagonistic role he is usually shoved into. And with Sam Wilson having one of the most acclaimed books in the relaunch and also being super liberal and proactive and a great hero he likely isn't going to be either.

There's a ton we don't know. I'm tired of heroes fighting each other too but just as Secret Wars only had a few tenuous connections to the original event this might just have a handful of similar themes to CW 1.

Blank while I admire your restraint

The idea that we should wait when the thing they are showing is cap and Tony punching each other seems a bit silly

Like that's what they're advertising

If you don't like that it is perfectly justified to be upset

I didn't say you can't be upset

I said we should maybe wait before shitting on event we know nothing about other than "there is a teaser image of Cap and Iron Man facing off"

If you hate that teaser that's totally fine but there are tons and tons of different ways they could tell a story based on that image and we have no idea what they are actually doing

Like I get why the gut reaction is OH GOD THEY'RE JUST DOING CIVIL WAR ALL OVER AGAIN, that is what the teaser is kind of meant to envoke, but Marvel literally just did a giant event all about revisiting old events and putting distinct spins on them so there's not a lot of reason to believe this is going to just be the same thing with a different status quo going in. Especially since Bendis is already writing Tony as extremely likeable and heroic and dashing which is already totally against one of the first event's biggest flaws.

Straightzi

Goatmon wrote: »

PiptheFair wrote: »

PaperLuigi44 wrote: »

I decided to marathon through S3 of Arrow, and woof. I knew about a lot of the issues ahead of time but even then

Whole season spoilers

I know she's back next season/in Legends of Tomorrow, but killing off Sara was a tremendous fuck-up on multiple levels. As was keeping her death from Quentin. God, when Nyssa chewed out Laurel for keeping another secret (Oliver accepting Ra's deal) I immediately thought 'Thank you'. Then there was Ray being a creepy stalker, Laurel being a crap Canary, Quentin going off the rails and Felicity crying in almost. every. episode. There's more but those were some of the big issues I had. That DJ plot was dumb, but I kinda think that dude has a future in VA work.

There were some bright spots, Roy as Arsenal is awesome, shame he had to leave. Although I'm up for Thea joining the team (something I wouldn't have been found dead saying at the start of season 1).

I can only imagine the life of a CW writer.

"Oh, have you told Mike that the milk has gone bad?"

"No. He can never know, it would destroy him."

about roy

coulton has confirmed he will be back

as for the rest

the season was really good and really bad at the same time

It had some really great bits, particularly

Ra's who owns every scene he's in.

Fun fact: Liam Neeson almost reprised that role, but was busy with other work and couldn't make it happen.

Ray Palmer's bits are neat, but it made some sense when I heard he was supposed to be Ted Kord but DC said no so they wrote Palmer into it instead.

My main beefs with season three are as follows

- The handling of Felicity, who basically has zero agency and is tossed between boyfriends with little to no say in any of it.

- The decline in the quality of fight scenes. Like, season 3 just stopped trying to make things seem tense. Everything got kinda formulaic and predictable. I just stopped feeling like the gang was ever in any real danger. S4 hasn't really fixed this.

- The show's desperation to make everyone care about the plot with one silly drama bomb after another. WHO KILLED SARA? Wait, was it Merlyn? No! Was it Roy? NO! it was Thea! Who was being mind controlled by Merlyn! Who is now blackmailing Ollie to fight Ra's al Ghul by threatening to throw his own daughter under the bus! DUN DUNNNN

Oh shit now Ollie's going to be the new Ra's! But he doesn't want to be! Oh no, now Ra's is terrorizing the city! Oh no, now Thea is going to die! Oh no, now Ollie is turning dark side! Oh wait he's faking it. OH NO MERYLN BACKSTABS HIM.

Just

fucking stop it. Please.

And my last beef is just... Laurel. Just fuck Laurel. She's never not been the worst character in the show. Her sister was so much better, and then she got fridged to make Laurel more interesting. Bleugh.

Really?

I absolutely hated the actor who played Ra's.

Like, one of the worst parts of the whole season was that actor.