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Obama made a move on Gun Control
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They're the only guns I've ever needed.
What I've heard is that since it's an executive order, and not actually a law passed by congress, then it's basically effortless for the next president to simply change the executive order.
So if a republican wins the white house, then it'll probably be reversed basically immediately.
If you ask them, they still aren't and really never can be because if they were to rise against the government, it would be a justified action to defend their freedoms just like our forefathers did.
I guess he's relying on republicans losing the next election, so it works and they'll just forget about it and will look crazy (uhh... crazier) if they try to revoke it a few years down the line.
He isn't relying on anything...he is doing what he can and hoping that the rest down the line works out. It is all he can do, it isn't like he can make it a law unfortunately, and I say that as a owner of several fire arms. I do have to laugh though in my state this stuff was already law and people here are still freaking out. Not even bothering to get educated..they just hear "herp derp gurn contreler" and go all NRA.
You have the National Guard already.
In fact, brass knuckles are straight up, end-of-discussion illegal.
EDIT: ...in certain specific states.
Which is unconstitutional, if you go by the NRA-style interpretation of the 2A.
Person: why are you making it harder for me to protect myself.
Obama: are you a felon?
Person: no.
Obama: then im not.
Repeat for an hour.
Post show interview:
Jake tapper: what did you think of the president's answer.
Person: hes trying to make it harder for me to protect my family.
Then I was so worked up I took a sleeping pill so I could sleep betore work.
I would be down with it being a law to temporary seize weapons and ban further purchase if you are currently under a 5150 hold. Then it is in the hands of a court and a doctor and isn't something morbid like keeping lists of people who have any sort of mental illness diagnosis. Then again I am also in the camp that a temporary seizure and ban should be a viable option if you appear on a no fly list and I am emphatically behind not only background checks for the purchaser but also being able to run one for anyone who comes into the store with them....you can do it with beer...why the hell cant you for a gun?
I'm glad something is finally happening, and props to Obama for getting something off of his fuckit bucket list.
Even if he was doing anything to keep these people from owning guns, which he's not, arghlbbraghle owning a gun does not protect your family in fact it makes your family significantly less safe garhhhgb
I'm not complaining because this really doesn't affect me. And for most gun owners, this really doesn't affect them.
And if I were gonna do a private sale, for the sake of my own sanity, I would pay the extra $20-35 that an FFL dealer would charge to do the transfer and NICS check.
Which would be a moot point if they had a CHL because all they have to do is fill out the paperwork and they can purchase, no NICS call necessary since they've been fingerprinted and background checked more thoroughly than the NICS incomplete database provides.
Edit: just so you know where I stand, I think this is fine. I just know the people are raising a stink about it suck.
Even under the most conservative definition of spree killings by unhinged people, more people have been killed by those during his terms than by terrorism, yet they want nothing done for the former, and mountains moved for the latter.
white people
Man I wish that was a white person exclusive world view.
To this point, Americans are five times more likely to be killed by white people (specifically right wingers) in acts of terrorism.
But there are so many people (on both sides, but I don't typically have these conversations with people who agree with me) who I can show facts and figures to and try to have a conversation where I show experts talking about something (Like gun control) and how it might benefit us and they will say "Yes but this picture my aunt sent me on facebook disagrees with your point. Those pollers or statistics are just biased! It says its middle ground or whatever but its not because this website by Jon B. Gunguy says its fake!" and they curl into a ball and hide themselves from anyone who disagrees.
Sometimes it makes me think, maybe we don't deserve a better world.
Probably better than all previous presidents combined.
Look man I don't want to come off as harsh here
But that doesn't sound like a great dude
I know a lot of people like this...it isn't always about being evil, some of them are just easily manipulated and listen to too much republican radio.
In my opinion the nazi symbolism is a step beyond the "good but misguided" category. If you truly believe Obama is some sort of tyrant you are incredibly foolish and divorced from reality.
Some people legitimately have an opinion that people doing the sorts of things that Obama has done is literal tyranny. A narrow, shortsighted view of tyrrany, yes, but it's still what they actually feel it to be.
It's very weird and I am not sure if them being truly sincere is depressing or slightly relieving (that they aren't, at their core, awful human beings)
If they really are what you say they are, then what is the point of obeying the law and talking? The only way your protests and actions have a good outcome is if your opposition is a decent human being.
24 hour news cycle
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
I have someone like this too. Except it's a lot of Hillary now. He was completely gung-ho for Carson, until he died out, and is now all about Cruz.
speaking of which, does anyone have any news sources here on the net they respect? most of the ones I was reading have faded away, i'm looking for some new ones.
Uncle Biden is pretty great.