For any and all management/supervisory types out there there is a right way to help someone under your supervision improve:
First, point out the underling's error without dismissing their intelligence.
Second, if you failed to notice the error in prior drafts, admit to doing so instead of suggesting that the underling sprung it on you and is dishonest.
Third, after you point out the underling's error, teach them how to do it correctly instead of having the underling figure out what, exactly, is wrong because just being told something is wrong without any additional guidance does jack shit.
Fourth, be open to discussing the issue with the underling and how they can get better. This includes not being pissy with the underling when they ask for your guidance, mentorship, etc and telling the underling that they are wasting your very valuable time. I know teaching is hard, but it's part of being a good supervisor!
Man, would be nice to have a good supervisor.
So that's where my old supervisor went!
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
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MrMonroepassed outon the floor nowRegistered Userregular
The answer is yes, you don't have to solve any riddles or anything.
The only time I've put "please advise." is after I followed the persons explicit instructions after giving a written protest that they were out of their god damn minds and that shit would hit the fan.
"Just following up, I followed your instructions and per my previous email shit has hit the fan.
Please advise."
On a more important note,
I have not seen the duck I rescued from our parking lot for a few weeks and I am concerned but maybe it is just really good at hiding in the reeds so I'm trying to remain hopefully optimistic.
So. About, eh 9 months ago I landed a pretty decent job. Or as decent as you get in this area without some kind of degree. The pay is great (again, for this area) but man, you definitely earn it (manufacturing. 12 hour swing shifts. Lotta heavy lifting.)
Well, problem is I hate my town. It is a desolate void of rednecks and cows and occasional meth lab explosions. I really want to move about 4 hours away down towards the coast where things are just the worst ever. The cost of living is a fair tick higher than where I'm at, though, and most of the jobs in that specific area are all pretty much service industry based. Tourism and restaurants and such. I've sent off two applications so far to plants nearby that looked like I might be reasonably qualified for but I have no clue how long it might be before I hear from them, if at all. One I'm pretty sure is not gonna call me back. It was a bit of a stretch.
But man I am getting a serious itch to just up and move. So I guess what I'm getting at is: should I wait to pull the trigger until I have something definitive lined up or should I save and then just make a go of it? It really wouldn't take me more than a couple of months to save up enough to keep alive for a good while, provided I was thrifty. I've also got family in the area who have already offered to let me stay at their place should I move so I wouldn't be risking a whole lot other than the job I have now but I'd really like to be self sufficient ASAP, though so my first inclination is to just keep shooting off applications until I get a bite. I just don't really want to step back down on my paycheck. I've lived on negative account balances and peanut butter enough and I don't know if I can do it again. Especially with a car payment and increased rent.
I would wait until you've got somewhere lined up, but I'm a cautionary kind of person that way. It's good you're seeking something better.
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MrMonroepassed outon the floor nowRegistered Userregular
I generally agree with Liiya, but sometimes that is not possible and you just gotta make a leap.
I would try to remember that there's a whole hell of a lot of places other than wherever you are that you can move to as well, so consider widening your search parameters.
That's fair! It may be one of those situations where you can only know what's best by being in it. I definitely agree widening a search is a good idea.
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BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
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Work thoughts before work tomorrow.
Hmmmm maybe don't have meetings first thing Monday morning to go over the schedule, only to have changed the schedule over the weekend and SURPRISE expect everyone to magically know about the schedule changes.
Also don't give one manager one set of deadlines and another manager another set of deadlines and tell them both that the same entry level person will be the one to complete all the deadlines, it just confuses everyone and no deadlines get completed. Also when you give deadlines, actually tell the people you are assigning the deadlines what they are, dont just avoid this step because you "hate meetings."
Also don't stop people walking out the door to go home on Friday in order to grill them about the work they did that week. Maybe wait until next week for that. Maybe never do that.
So. About, eh 9 months ago I landed a pretty decent job. Or as decent as you get in this area without some kind of degree. The pay is great (again, for this area) but man, you definitely earn it (manufacturing. 12 hour swing shifts. Lotta heavy lifting.)
Well, problem is I hate my town. It is a desolate void of rednecks and cows and occasional meth lab explosions. I really want to move about 4 hours away down towards the coast where things are just the worst ever. The cost of living is a fair tick higher than where I'm at, though, and most of the jobs in that specific area are all pretty much service industry based. Tourism and restaurants and such. I've sent off two applications so far to plants nearby that looked like I might be reasonably qualified for but I have no clue how long it might be before I hear from them, if at all. One I'm pretty sure is not gonna call me back. It was a bit of a stretch.
But man I am getting a serious itch to just up and move. So I guess what I'm getting at is: should I wait to pull the trigger until I have something definitive lined up or should I save and then just make a go of it? It really wouldn't take me more than a couple of months to save up enough to keep alive for a good while, provided I was thrifty. I've also got family in the area who have already offered to let me stay at their place should I move so I wouldn't be risking a whole lot other than the job I have now but I'd really like to be self sufficient ASAP, though so my first inclination is to just keep shooting off applications until I get a bite. I just don't really want to step back down on my paycheck. I've lived on negative account balances and peanut butter enough and I don't know if I can do it again. Especially with a car payment and increased rent.
Edit: gonna spoil that cause its kinda long.
I agree with the preceding esteemed posters. Also, constructing a 5 month, 1 year and 2 year plan might serve you well. For me, plans help to dampen impulses as there's always something concrete to work towards(ymmv). Good luck whatever you choose, ask for some lemurs when appropriate, the bloody things are magical.
Ay people. Talk to your parents about their end of life wishes before they get all demented and shit. What we do to these 90 year old people in the hospital is barbaric as shit. All because nobody in the family wanted to be the one to step up and ask them how they wanted to die.
Agree it's both sad and one of those hard truths to come to face with and then try to discuss with others to make sure they follow your wishes
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WeaverWho are you?What do you want?Registered Userregular
Pride burnt me out at work. I get that it's cool to go nearly buck naked when out celebrating but you have a backpack, carry a poncho or something for when you come into the grocery store and also maybe don't act like the party just carries on right through the doors. Also for some reason, we had a big uptick is really aggressive and persistent homeless thieves today, well err yesterday. Sunday. We had six LP plus the armed security at one point and they were all busy all the time. Last guy I kicked out had actually been trying to start fights with other homeless people all day and tried to steal a clock off the wall on his way out and then tried to pick a fight with security.
Ay people. Talk to your parents about their end of life wishes before they get all demented and shit. What we do to these 90 year old people in the hospital is barbaric as shit. All because nobody in the family wanted to be the one to step up and ask them how they wanted to die.
... yeah. We're trying to do this now, but my mother is in deep denial about the realities of her life expectancy. It's fucking hard.
Ay people. Talk to your parents about their end of life wishes before they get all demented and shit. What we do to these 90 year old people in the hospital is barbaric as shit. All because nobody in the family wanted to be the one to step up and ask them how they wanted to die.
... yeah. We're trying to do this now, but my mother is in deep denial about the realities of her life expectancy. It's fucking hard.
Ay people. Talk to your parents about their end of life wishes before they get all demented and shit. What we do to these 90 year old people in the hospital is barbaric as shit. All because nobody in the family wanted to be the one to step up and ask them how they wanted to die.
... yeah. We're trying to do this now, but my mother is in deep denial about the realities of her life expectancy. It's fucking hard.
Yup.
I've gotten to the "I know it needs to be updated, so I will update it" but then a few months down the line, I get to have the same conversation all over again.
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KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
Ay people. Talk to your parents about their end of life wishes before they get all demented and shit. What we do to these 90 year old people in the hospital is barbaric as shit. All because nobody in the family wanted to be the one to step up and ask them how they wanted to die.
My wife is a pulm/critical care specialist, currently working as an intensivist.
We're both extremely clear on what is and isn't ok when it comes to prolonging life. For a variety of circumstances and situations that encompass anything likely, and then some.
There's a weekend supervisor who was supposed to take care of the weekend work so Mondays were not so bad. Only, I have no idea what she does.
There were four samples due today that were not scheduled. And two batches of samples not due today that were. The analysts had already started working on one of the batches not due, but I got to the other one before it had begun so I could take it out of the schedule.
So now they will be overworked because the weekend supervisor doesn't schedule properly. At one point, I wanted to come in half days on Sundays to fix this mess, but was told the weekend supervisor would take care of it.
The two other supervisors I work with spend a lot of time in the lab doing work, but not actually managing people or work or much of anything. You're not analysts.. stop doing analyst work and do your job..
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Elevator was not working/delayed on the lobby, so I decided to take the stairs because I am young and fit and cool like that.
I barely reached floor 4 out of 8 before I had to stop and catch my breath. By floor 8 I was panting heavily and feeling the coffee back up on my throat, so I needed double the water by the time I hit my desk.
And people really need to stop just emailing my boss. I do a lot of what he's emailed about, but I usually hear about it way late or after the fact. I wish people would just include me on stuff so I can get it done. Or that my boss could remember to fwd stuff.
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Conversations with my grandmother about her end of life choices:
"I'd like to be resting next to your grandfather when it's my time."
"...Grandma, he's in an urn in your underwear drawer."
"I suppose I shouldn't end up in my own underwear drawer should I? Just take me back to The Bronx."
Backstory: My Grandfather died almost 20 years ago to smoking related illnesses. His request? Cremation and "well, I want to be in <Grandmother's> lingerie drawer."
We think...THINK...he was joking. But to this day it's where he remains.
We have upper management visiting my workplace this week. This morning my manager called us (IT) into a meeting. Apparently last time these people were here, they went back to the mothership and reported that everyone here was extremely negative, and no wonder our business is failing (it isn't).
The thing is, our company culture involves a lot of snark, very dry humor, and friendly ribbing. So every team in the building is getting the same talk from their manager today to not do that this week. We are to be nothing but sunny, positive, and consummately professional until the higher-ups are gone.
Prescription safety glasses broke from wear and tear, so now I have to go to the doctor Monday and get my prescription updated and a new pair ordered. This will, of course, be completely out of pocket because the company stopped paying for glasses last year, and prescription safety glasses are not covered under insurance.
@korodullin I know this is probably cold comfort, but you can claim safety equipment, tools, uniforms etc that you paid for out of pocket on your taxes. It's a 100% write off most of the time.
My dad called me last night, speaking of end of life choices, and wanted to know if he should let me brother and his girlfriend take over the house after my mother dies, and dad will just go out to his cabin in the desert. I suggested maybe an assisted living facility, but then he wanted to split time between down where he, my mother, and my brother and his girlfriend live, and up here where I am.
To the best of my knowledge, my mother isn't sick (though we will be having a conversation about this soon), and if I had to put money on it (and I do!), I'd guess my father will die before my mom.
That's an odd conversation to have with nothing leading up to it.
The trouble applying for jobs you really want is that you will probs get rejected.
Yeah but the trouble with not applying for them is you'll definitely not get them.
(I know you know this, but I feel it's always worth repeating. Especially as I am a sufferer of "I'd rather cling to false hope" -itis)
Truuuue thanks buddy
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#pipeCocky Stride, Musky odoursPope of Chili TownRegistered Userregular
I got a package in the mail a few weeks ago that was an amendment to my parents' will outlining their end-of-life medical intervention preferences and how power of attorney would be divided when one or both of them die or are functionally compromised.
It was all very straight forward and not scary and now we have clear instructions and so do their lawyers.
It's a Good Thing™ to make a comprehensive will while you're still healthy.
Conversations with my grandmother about her end of life choices:
"I'd like to be resting next to your grandfather when it's my time."
"...Grandma, he's in an urn in your underwear drawer."
"I suppose I shouldn't end up in my own underwear drawer should I? Just take me back to The Bronx."
Backstory: My Grandfather died almost 20 years ago to smoking related illnesses. His request? Cremation and "well, I want to be in <Grandmother's> lingerie drawer."
We think...THINK...he was joking. But to this day it's where he remains.
The good news is I start my new job next week and get to make money and be productive again. The okay news is that the company is taking care of housing me until my contract is up in January so no rent or utilities for a while. The bad news is, "housing" is a motel room without internet in BFE. Not a huge deal to most people but giving up Overwatch and SFV for six months is going to be kinda rough. I have, however, been informed that the hotel room has a DVD player, so there's that!
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Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
The baby duiker is barely eating and has become very shaky. I predict it won't last more than another day or two.
Today I got a pat on the head because I was able to teach someone in the office how to make their Excel sheet go in alphabetical order.
She originally asked me to send her a whole new list because she didn't know she could do it herself. Now I feel like I should have just re-sent it so she would have thought I put in a lot more work than I actually did.
Today I got a pat on the head because I was able to teach someone in the office how to make their Excel sheet go in alphabetical order.
She originally asked me to send her a whole new list because she didn't know she could do it herself. Now I feel like I should have just re-sent it so she would have thought I put in a lot more work than I actually did.
Typical IT Department workflow:
Receive stupid request.
Fill request in 5 minutes.
Sit on request for 3 days just to teach them a lesson.
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Librarian's ghostLibrarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSporkRegistered Userregular
Today I got a pat on the head because I was able to teach someone in the office how to make their Excel sheet go in alphabetical order.
She originally asked me to send her a whole new list because she didn't know she could do it herself. Now I feel like I should have just re-sent it so she would have thought I put in a lot more work than I actually did.
Typical IT Department workflow:
Receive stupid request.
Fill request in 5 minutes.
Sit on request for 3 days just to teach them a lesson.
Wait, did she actually physically pat you on the head? 'Cause I would think you would rip her arm off and beat her to death with it is so.
Or was this a metaphorical pat on the head?
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So that's where my old supervisor went!
Kadith
Being mean to the new guy.
smh
"Just following up, I followed your instructions and per my previous email shit has hit the fan.
Please advise."
On a more important note,
I have not seen the duck I rescued from our parking lot for a few weeks and I am concerned but maybe it is just really good at hiding in the reeds so I'm trying to remain hopefully optimistic.
Please, continue cursing me out in front those small children.
No threats were made, just bragging about "mad money."
I have nothing against European Americans.
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Well, problem is I hate my town. It is a desolate void of rednecks and cows and occasional meth lab explosions. I really want to move about 4 hours away down towards the coast where things are just the worst ever. The cost of living is a fair tick higher than where I'm at, though, and most of the jobs in that specific area are all pretty much service industry based. Tourism and restaurants and such. I've sent off two applications so far to plants nearby that looked like I might be reasonably qualified for but I have no clue how long it might be before I hear from them, if at all. One I'm pretty sure is not gonna call me back. It was a bit of a stretch.
But man I am getting a serious itch to just up and move. So I guess what I'm getting at is: should I wait to pull the trigger until I have something definitive lined up or should I save and then just make a go of it? It really wouldn't take me more than a couple of months to save up enough to keep alive for a good while, provided I was thrifty. I've also got family in the area who have already offered to let me stay at their place should I move so I wouldn't be risking a whole lot other than the job I have now but I'd really like to be self sufficient ASAP, though so my first inclination is to just keep shooting off applications until I get a bite. I just don't really want to step back down on my paycheck. I've lived on negative account balances and peanut butter enough and I don't know if I can do it again. Especially with a car payment and increased rent.
Edit: gonna spoil that cause its kinda long.
I would try to remember that there's a whole hell of a lot of places other than wherever you are that you can move to as well, so consider widening your search parameters.
Hmmmm maybe don't have meetings first thing Monday morning to go over the schedule, only to have changed the schedule over the weekend and SURPRISE expect everyone to magically know about the schedule changes.
Also don't give one manager one set of deadlines and another manager another set of deadlines and tell them both that the same entry level person will be the one to complete all the deadlines, it just confuses everyone and no deadlines get completed. Also when you give deadlines, actually tell the people you are assigning the deadlines what they are, dont just avoid this step because you "hate meetings."
Also don't stop people walking out the door to go home on Friday in order to grill them about the work they did that week. Maybe wait until next week for that. Maybe never do that.
I agree with the preceding esteemed posters. Also, constructing a 5 month, 1 year and 2 year plan might serve you well. For me, plans help to dampen impulses as there's always something concrete to work towards(ymmv). Good luck whatever you choose, ask for some lemurs when appropriate, the bloody things are magical.
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... yeah. We're trying to do this now, but my mother is in deep denial about the realities of her life expectancy. It's fucking hard.
Witness.
I've gotten to the "I know it needs to be updated, so I will update it" but then a few months down the line, I get to have the same conversation all over again.
My wife is a pulm/critical care specialist, currently working as an intensivist.
We're both extremely clear on what is and isn't ok when it comes to prolonging life. For a variety of circumstances and situations that encompass anything likely, and then some.
There were four samples due today that were not scheduled. And two batches of samples not due today that were. The analysts had already started working on one of the batches not due, but I got to the other one before it had begun so I could take it out of the schedule.
So now they will be overworked because the weekend supervisor doesn't schedule properly. At one point, I wanted to come in half days on Sundays to fix this mess, but was told the weekend supervisor would take care of it.
The two other supervisors I work with spend a lot of time in the lab doing work, but not actually managing people or work or much of anything. You're not analysts.. stop doing analyst work and do your job..
I barely reached floor 4 out of 8 before I had to stop and catch my breath. By floor 8 I was panting heavily and feeling the coffee back up on my throat, so I needed double the water by the time I hit my desk.
That's the start of my week.
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"I'd like to be resting next to your grandfather when it's my time."
"...Grandma, he's in an urn in your underwear drawer."
"I suppose I shouldn't end up in my own underwear drawer should I? Just take me back to The Bronx."
Backstory: My Grandfather died almost 20 years ago to smoking related illnesses. His request? Cremation and "well, I want to be in <Grandmother's> lingerie drawer."
We think...THINK...he was joking. But to this day it's where he remains.
The thing is, our company culture involves a lot of snark, very dry humor, and friendly ribbing. So every team in the building is getting the same talk from their manager today to not do that this week. We are to be nothing but sunny, positive, and consummately professional until the higher-ups are gone.
Should be an interesting week...
@korodullin I know this is probably cold comfort, but you can claim safety equipment, tools, uniforms etc that you paid for out of pocket on your taxes. It's a 100% write off most of the time.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
To the best of my knowledge, my mother isn't sick (though we will be having a conversation about this soon), and if I had to put money on it (and I do!), I'd guess my father will die before my mom.
That's an odd conversation to have with nothing leading up to it.
Yeah but the trouble with not applying for them is you'll definitely not get them.
(I know you know this, but I feel it's always worth repeating. Especially as I am a sufferer of "I'd rather cling to false hope" -itis)
Truuuue thanks buddy
It was all very straight forward and not scary and now we have clear instructions and so do their lawyers.
It's a Good Thing™ to make a comprehensive will while you're still healthy.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
This has been a trying few days.
She originally asked me to send her a whole new list because she didn't know she could do it herself. Now I feel like I should have just re-sent it so she would have thought I put in a lot more work than I actually did.
Typical IT Department workflow:
So the Scotty method of Engineering?
Or was this a metaphorical pat on the head?