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A Billion Degrees of [Science]

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Darmak wrote: »
    I have a question for those of y'all that know more about physics than I do. While playing with a fidget spinner at work I noticed that while it's spinning it sort of, I dunno, resists when I move it? Like if I'm holding it horizontally while it's spinning and I try to rotate my hand so that it's spinning vertically it feels like it's resisting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Why does it do that? Does the phenomenon have a name?

    That phenomenon is how gyroscopes work and has to do with conservation of angular momentum. Honestly it sorta breaks my head a little bit.

    Edit: Stupid new page making me edit in the quote.

    Edit2: Try this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9QSiVC2g0

    It shows some of the stupid tricks this leads to. Don't have sound at the moment so I think this is right.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    I have a question for those of y'all that know more about physics than I do. While playing with a fidget spinner at work I noticed that while it's spinning it sort of, I dunno, resists when I move it? Like if I'm holding it horizontally while it's spinning and I try to rotate my hand so that it's spinning vertically it feels like it's resisting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Why does it do that? Does the phenomenon have a name?

    That's gyroscopic motion.

    It'll resist angular movement to continue it's rotation.

    It's neat. You'll get a similar feedback from platter hard drives when they spin up if you try to move it around in your hand.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Darmak wrote: »
    I have a question for those of y'all that know more about physics than I do. While playing with a fidget spinner at work I noticed that while it's spinning it sort of, I dunno, resists when I move it? Like if I'm holding it horizontally while it's spinning and I try to rotate my hand so that it's spinning vertically it feels like it's resisting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Why does it do that? Does the phenomenon have a name?

    That phenomenon is how gyroscopes work and has to do with conservation of angular momentum. Honestly it sorta breaks my head a little bit.

    Edit: Stupid new page making me edit in the quote.

    Yeah its angular momentum, there is a physics lecture about it I saw on youtube I thought was pretty good

    Short version!

    https://youtu.be/NeXIV-wMVUk

    Longer version!

    https://youtu.be/LokwTnLBEQQ

    Edit I think that guy has other videos up that show/explain gyroscope stuff too

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    DirtmuncherDirtmuncher Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    I have a question for those of y'all that know more about physics than I do. While playing with a fidget spinner at work I noticed that while it's spinning it sort of, I dunno, resists when I move it? Like if I'm holding it horizontally while it's spinning and I try to rotate my hand so that it's spinning vertically it feels like it's resisting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Why does it do that? Does the phenomenon have a name?

    It has to do with the spinning and stuff. To drunk to actually explain. But here is some further reading material https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope

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    destroyah87destroyah87 They/Them Preferred: She/Her - Please UseRegistered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Moment_of_inertia is the technical term for how easy a spinning mass is to alter orentiation or speed. Also, wikipedia link for further reading, if you're interested. Angular_momentum is more specifically what you're asking about, regarding manipulation of a spinning mass.

    As already stated it's why gyroscopes do how they do. Since a fidget spinner is just a stripped down and less precise gyroscope, it's why you get the feeling of resistance on your hand when changing orientation.

    The most interesting trick I've seen is using a spinning bicycle tire to rotate a person sitting on a rotating chair.

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    I have a question for those of y'all that know more about physics than I do. While playing with a fidget spinner at work I noticed that while it's spinning it sort of, I dunno, resists when I move it? Like if I'm holding it horizontally while it's spinning and I try to rotate my hand so that it's spinning vertically it feels like it's resisting. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Why does it do that? Does the phenomenon have a name?

    That phenomenon is how gyroscopes work and has to do with conservation of angular momentum. Honestly it sorta breaks my head a little bit.

    Edit: Stupid new page making me edit in the quote.

    Yeah its angular momentum, there is a physics lecture about it I saw on youtube I thought was pretty good

    Short version!

    https://youtu.be/NeXIV-wMVUk

    Longer version!

    https://youtu.be/LokwTnLBEQQ

    Edit I think that guy has other videos up that show/explain gyroscope stuff too

    Dude has video lectures for the entirety of some MIT physics courses and is fairly interesting to watch if you're into that sort of geekery.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Wow, that was really fast! Thanks y'all, I'm checking those videos and links out now!

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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    I'm really glad everyone else answered that. I was going to try to, but I am not a physics person, and would have wound up making a fool of myself and confusing Darmak.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    chromdom wrote: »
    I'm really glad everyone else answered that. I was going to try to, but I am not a physics person, and would have wound up making a fool of myself and confusing Darmak.

    To be fair, I'm confused anyway. But I'm a highschool dropout so that's to be expected!

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    chromdom wrote: »
    I'm really glad everyone else answered that. I was going to try to, but I am not a physics person, and would have wound up making a fool of myself and confusing Darmak.

    To be fair, I'm confused anyway. But I'm a highschool dropout so that's to be expected!

    I always just think of it as "things travelling in a direction would like to continue traveling in that direction", and when you try and change the direction, they resist.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    that's also why bikes tend to stay upright when in motion

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    that's also why bikes tend to stay upright when in motion

    You obviously haven't seen me on one. :P

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    You are talking about gyroscopic effect.

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    Yes. The gyroscope effect.

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    AtheraalAtheraal Registered User regular
    Hey y'all I think Darmak might be talking about the gyroscopic effect

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Y’all ever hear of the motion which is unique to spinning gyros?

    It’s something like gyrogiggitydoo somethin’-or-other motion, can’t think of it just now.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Now I really want a gyro, thanks sarukun

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    My work here is done.

    Better find me a sunset to walk into.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Y’all ever hear of the motion which is unique to spinning gyros?

    It’s something like gyrogiggitydoo somethin’-or-other motion, can’t think of it just now.

    I think the effect of a spinning gyro is called shwarma.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I was trying to work in a squidbillies reference, but thing's just didn't go my way.

    Such is my lot in life.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Why do you think they're called gyros?

    Because the only way to avoid dripping spicy garlic sauce on your shirt when you're eating one is to spin around very very fast, which ensures that any drips are flung away from you.

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Why would I not want to drip garlic sauce on myself? That's just wasteful

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    FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    If I walked on the moon, while on my deathbed I'd say it was faked, but offer up no other details before I died, just to fuck with people.

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    TheStig wrote: »
    If I walked on the moon, while on my deathbed I'd say it was faked, but offer up no other details before I died, just to fuck with people.

    Remember when Buzz punched that guy in the mouth for claiming he faked walking on the moon?

    Yeah, I don't think he's gonna change his mind

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    Astronauts (and other space travellers regardless of what they're called by their respective countries) are, in the truest sense of a word that gets thrown around an awful lot, heroes. I hate the moon landing conspiracy or other conspiracies regarding NASA and manned space flight for that reason especially.

    Like, these are people who are selflessly putting their lives on the line in the spirit of furthering the human race. Of extending our reach, boldly going and all that. They can die horribly at literally any second for like a thousand reasons while on mission, and it's all just for the sake of answering questions.

    It's the noblest thing I can think of. Fuckin a, humans. We're pretty cool from time to time.

    Edit: actually, space animals too. By god, this is an interspecies endeavor and the non-human contributions to space travel should be acknowledged, even if it is kinda uncomfortable. Especially because it is in fact.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    If I walked on the moon, while on my deathbed I'd say it was faked, but offer up no other details before I died, just to fuck with people.

    Remember when Buzz punched that guy in the mouth for claiming he faked walking on the moon?

    Yeah, I don't think he's gonna change his mind

    Now, to be fair, it takes more than just denying it to get Buzz to punch you in the face. You have to harass him constantly and then ambush him.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    You know what blows my mind? Water gaps. Rivers that run through a mountain range leaving a gorge.

    Because it means that the river is older than the mountains. The gorge can't have been formed after the mountains were there, as the river would not have been able to flow up one side and down the other. So before there were mountains (or before there was those mountains) the river was doing its thing and over time the mountains formed, but they couldn't displace or stop the river. Which is pretty crazy.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    You know what blows my mind? Water gaps. Rivers that run through a mountain range leaving a gorge.

    Because it means that the river is older than the mountains. The gorge can't have been formed after the mountains were there, as the river would not have been able to flow up one side and down the other. So before there were mountains (or before there was those mountains) the river was doing its thing and over time the mountains formed, but they couldn't displace or stop the river. Which is pretty crazy.

    Unless the pass the gorge occupies was already the lowest point, or maybe even just reached a lower point earlier, causing the water to run that way, which then made the gorge.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    You know what blows my mind? Water gaps. Rivers that run through a mountain range leaving a gorge.

    Because it means that the river is older than the mountains. The gorge can't have been formed after the mountains were there, as the river would not have been able to flow up one side and down the other. So before there were mountains (or before there was those mountains) the river was doing its thing and over time the mountains formed, but they couldn't displace or stop the river. Which is pretty crazy.

    Unless it's a result of snow/ice action.

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    PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited July 2018
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44924796

    A competition helping to drive development of the futuristic hyperloop transport system has been won by engineering students from Munich.

    The hyperloop idea involves passengers in pods travelling at very high speeds down sealed tunnels.

    The team's pod hit 457km/h (290mph) on a 1.2km (0.75 mile) test track.

    Run by the SpaceX aerospace company, the competition aims to refine the technologies that could underpin the super-fast transport system.

    We going scifi now?

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    I hope those teams contributing engineering work to this are being paid

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    I hope those teams contributing engineering work to this are being paid

    Exposure and experience are forms of payment, right?

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Andy Joe wrote: »

    i'm honestly so jazzed about this

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Hmm

    Mars Sludge is probably not toxic, and maybe full of useful macromolecules

    Sarcophagus probably grants eternal life, but is incredibly cursed

    It's really a tossup!

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm definitely down for the Mars goop

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    The Sarcophagus was submerged in sewage. That's what the liquid is.

    Mars all the way.

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