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    YggiDeeYggiDee The World Ends With You Shill Registered User regular
    I just had a sudden weird thought that for how important Garnet is to Ruby and Sapphire and vice versa, they will never meet each other.

    And it's a slightly different situation than, say, Steven and Rose because Ruby and Sapphire aren't dead or anything, they just sorta can't exist at the same time as Garnet. Or they can only exist simultaneously, because fusion personhood is weird and strange. I dunno, I was thinking about 'The Answer' and how Garnet narrated it like it was happening to someone else but both of those someone elses were semi-existing in her brain. Then I saw Garnet pick up that one Ruby and it got all surreal on me.

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    surrealitychecksurrealitycheck lonely, but not unloved dreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered User regular
    if they dont retrieve whole ruby squad and they become friendos and just walk around being confused by soil and birds and swimming pools then i am REPORTING WHOLE WRITING TEAM TO YELLOW DIAMOND

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    steven universe

    you know

    a show for kids

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    personally I'm happy we're going in the Japanese Style where shows aimed at children are allowed to be hella dark

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Just so long as they keep all the super creepy sex stuff out.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    Just so long as they keep all the super creepy sex stuff out.

    Or at least disguised behind metaphors like dancing or fusion.

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Bubbled
    We really have gone from 0 to 60 on making me feel bad for the Homeworld gems

    They're treated like shit and taught no other way to exist and it sucks

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    JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!

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    WyvernWyvern Registered User regular
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!
    For that matter, why was the moonbase pressurized in the first place, since gems don't need to breathe? I thought that maybe they needed air to talk, but it's now apparent we're handwaving that. And, like...Lion doesn't have a human-breathable atmosphere, because Rose wouldn't have needed it . So why is the moonbase different? Would a radical difference in air pressure screw up the warp pad or something? That seems unlikely; fully-hollowed gem colony would lose most of its atmosphere, so they must deal with that situation routinely.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    ...You guys don't question Stephen's air staying in the area?

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Wyvern wrote: »
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!
    For that matter, why was the moonbase pressurized in the first place, since gems don't need to breathe? I thought that maybe they needed air to talk, but it's now apparent we're handwaving that. And, like...Lion doesn't have a human-breathable atmosphere, because Rose wouldn't have needed it . So why is the moonbase different? Would a radical difference in air pressure screw up the warp pad or something? That seems unlikely; fully-hollowed gem colony would lose most of its atmosphere, so they must deal with that situation routinely.

    Clearly
    All building blue-prints come built in the brain of all Bismuths and come from the time when the clearly artificial Gem Race still served their biological master.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Wyvern wrote: »
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!
    For that matter, why was the moonbase pressurized in the first place, since gems don't need to breathe? I thought that maybe they needed air to talk, but it's now apparent we're handwaving that. And, like...Lion doesn't have a human-breathable atmosphere, because Rose wouldn't have needed it . So why is the moonbase different? Would a radical difference in air pressure screw up the warp pad or something? That seems unlikely; fully-hollowed gem colony would lose most of its atmosphere, so they must deal with that situation routinely.
    My guess is the Gems didn't care about the atmosphere.
    I mean, In the early days of the colony, travel between the Earth and the moon via warp pad was most likely quite common.
    Warping a set volume of space from Earth to the moon would most likely involve warping a volume of air as well as the gems in that space. This air dissipates into the moon base with it's relatively lower pressure.
    Warping the same set volume from the moon to Earth would transmit much less gas since the gas would be at a lower pressure.

    Eventually, given enough transports, the atmospheres between Earth and the moon base would have largely equalized.

    And, of course the moon base was built well enough to maintain it's atmosphere for centuries upon centuries. The Gems build stuff to last, and tiny holes that atmosphere could escape through would inevitably become big holes given enough time. Time that, as a race that's functionally immortal, the Gems would have lived to see.

    Still no answer for how Stephen and Eyeball went so fast from just being blown out the door though. Maybe Stephen's bubble has super luminal capabilities that he's not aware of yet? Maybe he activated them while unconscious or something.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    ...You guys don't question Stephen's air staying in the area?
    The bubble is there to protect him, it wouldn't be surprising if it magically made air or something.

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    JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    ...You guys don't question Stephen's air staying in the area?

    Well that's just magic, duh...

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    When was that picture of Jasper?

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
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    Its an official thingy from the SDCC panel

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Wyvern wrote: »
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!
    For that matter, why was the moonbase pressurized in the first place, since gems don't need to breathe? I thought that maybe they needed air to talk, but it's now apparent we're handwaving that. And, like...Lion doesn't have a human-breathable atmosphere, because Rose wouldn't have needed it . So why is the moonbase different? Would a radical difference in air pressure screw up the warp pad or something? That seems unlikely; fully-hollowed gem colony would lose most of its atmosphere, so they must deal with that situation routinely.
    My guess is the Gems didn't care about the atmosphere.
    I mean, In the early days of the colony, travel between the Earth and the moon via warp pad was most likely quite common.
    Warping a set volume of space from Earth to the moon would most likely involve warping a volume of air as well as the gems in that space. This air dissipates into the moon base with it's relatively lower pressure.
    Warping the same set volume from the moon to Earth would transmit much less gas since the gas would be at a lower pressure.

    Eventually, given enough transports, the atmospheres between Earth and the moon base would have largely equalized.

    And, of course the moon base was built well enough to maintain it's atmosphere for centuries upon centuries. The Gems build stuff to last, and tiny holes that atmosphere could escape through would inevitably become big holes given enough time. Time that, as a race that's functionally immortal, the Gems would have lived to see.

    Still no answer for how Stephen and Eyeball went so fast from just being blown out the door though. Maybe Stephen's bubble has super luminal capabilities that he's not aware of yet? Maybe he activated them while unconscious or something.
    If the atmosphere isn't maintained intentionally, and is just caused by teleports

    then how did enough air remain after the Rubies flew the ship through that same airlock to get to the base in the first place?

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Why are the new episodes not up on Amazon yet, WHYYYYYYYY?

    Same. I'm overseas at the moment so catching up is kind of difficult.

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Enlong wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Wyvern wrote: »
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!
    For that matter, why was the moonbase pressurized in the first place, since gems don't need to breathe? I thought that maybe they needed air to talk, but it's now apparent we're handwaving that. And, like...Lion doesn't have a human-breathable atmosphere, because Rose wouldn't have needed it . So why is the moonbase different? Would a radical difference in air pressure screw up the warp pad or something? That seems unlikely; fully-hollowed gem colony would lose most of its atmosphere, so they must deal with that situation routinely.
    My guess is the Gems didn't care about the atmosphere.
    I mean, In the early days of the colony, travel between the Earth and the moon via warp pad was most likely quite common.
    Warping a set volume of space from Earth to the moon would most likely involve warping a volume of air as well as the gems in that space. This air dissipates into the moon base with it's relatively lower pressure.
    Warping the same set volume from the moon to Earth would transmit much less gas since the gas would be at a lower pressure.

    Eventually, given enough transports, the atmospheres between Earth and the moon base would have largely equalized.

    And, of course the moon base was built well enough to maintain it's atmosphere for centuries upon centuries. The Gems build stuff to last, and tiny holes that atmosphere could escape through would inevitably become big holes given enough time. Time that, as a race that's functionally immortal, the Gems would have lived to see.

    Still no answer for how Stephen and Eyeball went so fast from just being blown out the door though. Maybe Stephen's bubble has super luminal capabilities that he's not aware of yet? Maybe he activated them while unconscious or something.
    If the atmosphere isn't maintained intentionally, and is just caused by teleports

    then how did enough air remain after the Rubies flew the ship through that same airlock to get to the base in the first place?
    Not to mention, why's there air in the Ruby ship?

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Wyvern wrote: »
    Lapis is is my #2 gem.

    Also Bubbled:
    There's no way they got that far with that velocity, let alone skip escape Earths gravity well.

    God, why can't my show about magical beings respect simple physics!
    For that matter, why was the moonbase pressurized in the first place, since gems don't need to breathe? I thought that maybe they needed air to talk, but it's now apparent we're handwaving that. And, like...Lion doesn't have a human-breathable atmosphere, because Rose wouldn't have needed it . So why is the moonbase different? Would a radical difference in air pressure screw up the warp pad or something? That seems unlikely; fully-hollowed gem colony would lose most of its atmosphere, so they must deal with that situation routinely.
    My guess is the Gems didn't care about the atmosphere.
    I mean, In the early days of the colony, travel between the Earth and the moon via warp pad was most likely quite common.
    Warping a set volume of space from Earth to the moon would most likely involve warping a volume of air as well as the gems in that space. This air dissipates into the moon base with it's relatively lower pressure.
    Warping the same set volume from the moon to Earth would transmit much less gas since the gas would be at a lower pressure.

    Eventually, given enough transports, the atmospheres between Earth and the moon base would have largely equalized.

    And, of course the moon base was built well enough to maintain it's atmosphere for centuries upon centuries. The Gems build stuff to last, and tiny holes that atmosphere could escape through would inevitably become big holes given enough time. Time that, as a race that's functionally immortal, the Gems would have lived to see.

    Still no answer for how Stephen and Eyeball went so fast from just being blown out the door though. Maybe Stephen's bubble has super luminal capabilities that he's not aware of yet? Maybe he activated them while unconscious or something.
    If the atmosphere isn't maintained intentionally, and is just caused by teleports

    then how did enough air remain after the Rubies flew the ship through that same airlock to get to the base in the first place?
    Not to mention, why's there air in the Ruby ship?

    Magic, obviously.
    Have you not been paying attention?

    Alternate answer:
    Just go ahead and skip to a minute or so in.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcUkKltAidM

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    tzeentchlingtzeentchling Doctor of Rocks OaklandRegistered User regular
    Kindergarten Kid (got posted online early for me!)
    Wow, talk about a tonal shift! So much Road Runner homage. Peridot remains best gem. "You're tough to poof!" Damn right, Steven.

    "Where did it go?" "Home." *bubble appears in barn* -> HEART MELTS

    At the end, when Lapis notices the new bubble and is just all, huh, then goes back to reading. <3

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Earthling Spoilers
    I just watched Jaspers monologue at the end again and I gotta say I love it so much. Its such a stellar performance. Her stuttering when she has to tell Steven that her diamond was Pink Diamond like she just got punched in the stomach. You can tell there was this subtext in their every conversation they shared. "This is the person who murdered her diamond, my diamond." That idea was clearly at the forefront of her mind constantly. From her perspective that moment must of felt like a "to me it was a tuesday" moment. She hates Rose for this thing she did so much and Rose doesn't even seem to understand what a big deal it is.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Also about the Breaking Point
    I don't really agree with the argument that is being made that Rose must have killed Pink Diamond before her encounter with Bismuth. I doubt that Rose felt you should never shatter the enemy. The problem with the breaking point is that it makes killing inherent in the fight. It takes away your choice.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Kindergarten Kid (got posted online early for me!)
    Wow, talk about a tonal shift! So much Road Runner homage. Peridot remains best gem. "You're tough to poof!" Damn right, Steven.

    "Where did it go?" "Home." *bubble appears in barn* -> HEART MELTS

    At the end, when Lapis notices the new bubble and is just all, huh, then goes back to reading. <3

    You could say...
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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Bubbled
    Not exactly a huge revelation, but Eyeball mentioning Rose's sword definitely means Bismuth had been recruited before the fight with Pink Diamond. Thinking that Bismuth was bubbled before then, though.

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    BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    Bubbled ep
    That lewd face Eyeball makes when thinking about getting a pearl as a reward for turning in Steven.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Tomorrows episode is out, it is fantastic
    Peridot, Facet-2F5L, Cut-5XG

    Suuuuper Genius!

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    ...You guys don't question Stephen's air staying in the area?
    The bubble is there to protect him, it wouldn't be surprising if it magically made air or something.

    I kinda was thinking the bubble was a quantum entanglement with the bubble room in the base. when he generates the portal both the sphere of air in the bubble room and the sphere around him are occupying the same space, so hes not really generating air but transporting it.


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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Ms Dapper wrote: »

    Oof. This song will never feel the same again.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Ms Dapper wrote: »

    Oof. This song will never feel the same again.

    After recent episodes, getting strong vibes that
    This song is from Rose, to Steven. Or the crystal gems in general.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Or Greg?

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Love Like You
    I don't really see that as a specific person to another person

    I think its just kind of thematic for the whole series

    That could be nearly any character to any other character

    greg/rose
    ruby/sapphire
    pearl/rose
    steven/gems

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    GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Love Like You feels very much like it's just about relationships in general. From romantic to platonic and so forth, between partners, friends, comrades, enemies, etc. When you love someone, in any way, and they reciprocate, there's at some point going to be the question of "Why would you love me?" and I'm sure that same question is shared with the other person/people. I think that song beautifully captures that whole sense of wonder, insecurity, and admiration people go through when affection is in play, and it's really interesting having that song applied specifically to any of the characters because it works for all of them in some shape or form.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    Love Like You has always struck me primarily as a parent singing to a child

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    A dog owner to a dog

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Ms Dapper wrote: »

    Oof. This song will never feel the same again.

    After recent episodes, getting strong vibes that
    This song is from Rose, to Steven. Or the crystal gems in general.
    I've thought it was from Rose to Greg, from very early on.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Yeah, some of the lines feel very Rose-specific, to me.

    And it fits so well as the ending to Bubbled.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    More Bubbled/JoJo
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