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Foreign Policy in the Age of Trump

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    The least bit of self-restraint is all it takes for people to start calling him presidential.

    Just waiting for him to start dropping bombs to distract from the domestic crisis.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    The least bit of self-restraint is all it takes for people to start calling him presidential.

    Just waiting for him to start dropping bombs to distract from the domestic crisis.

    Also, remember he is taking literally no questions until he gets home, and then has also canceled press briefings. As soon as the trip is done, he is going to be unhappy with coverage

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    What I am gathering from this thread is that Trump travelled to the heart of Wahabism, boldly looked King Salman in the eye, and blamed everything on the Shias?

    Was that rhetoric about Iran/Hezbollah from his Islam speech, or just something he rambled at someone?

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    Desktop HippieDesktop Hippie Registered User regular
    I can't find a reliable source, but there's a swirl of rumours that Priebus has been sent back to D.C?

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Phillip Rucker White House Bureau Chief of the Washington Post

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilipRucker/status/866334183886655490
    Sec State Tillerson is holding a news conference right now in Riyadh, per WH pool, but US reporters were not invited or told about it.

    Sigh.

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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Boring teleprompter Trump seems preferable to the alternative.

    Not at all. He'll probably gain approval rating and be able to get some positive news out of at least doing what a president is "supposed to do" for five fucking seconds.

    Not having an international incident again seems like a positive. The rest is mostly the media sucking.

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    OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    rhylith wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Boring teleprompter Trump seems preferable to the alternative.

    Not at all. He'll probably gain approval rating and be able to get some positive news out of at least doing what a president is "supposed to do" for five fucking seconds.

    I'm at least beginning to hope we're past that point. He's coming home to the Russian investigation, no matter what happens abroad. Hell, a distracting enough incident overseas might feel like a relief at this point.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    I keep seeing this picture show up on twitter of Trump, al Sisi and the Saudi king

    vnmhsbi5tfcy.jpg

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    A Palantír? That explains a lot.

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    NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Are they holding a seance?
    WTF?

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    dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Are they holding a seance?
    WTF?

    My impression is they're re-enacting an M. Bison moment. Just as a snapshot that looks like some supervillain shit.

    I'm sure it's innocuous, but I don't know how other nations can see this as a good thing. Let's go ahead and chalk it up to a bad idea on accident? How could wrapping the fingers of a grubby rich racist, a theocratic oil monarchy and a military ruler with a sketchy history around a globe not be Austin Powers shit?

    Edit: Also Trumps face, what the fuck kind of look is that?

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    NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Are they holding a seance?
    WTF?

    It's a globe. Trump's fondling the US, and you can see Australia down at the bottom.

    It just also looks like a prop from a sci-fi movie.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Why is Melania standing there?

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    MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    What the fuck is up with Alaska on that globe, and where is Russia/Asia?

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Why is Melania standing there?

    Because Melania is the Baroness to Trump's Cobra Commander.

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    dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    "Hey guys, let's just get a photo op standing by the glowing globe."
    (everyone gets in position behind the globe looking forward)

    Trump, "Don't just stand here... reach out and grab it. When you're famous they let you do that."

    (creepy face globe crotch grab)

    Suddenly everyone in the room is very uncomfortable. They're all looking at Trump like, "What the fuck is he doing, why are his eyes closed?"

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Look, old people get cold hands easily. He's just happy his hands are warming up, so he's closing his eyes and enjoying!

    Seriously, what is the caption here?

    "Meanwhile, at the legion of doom"?

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    Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Mai-Kero was warned for this.
    dojhel1n3v5i.jpg

    So It Goes on
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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    CNN WH correspondent


    Asked about line in speech today when Trump said Islamic instead of Islamist, a senior White House official said: “He’s an exhausted guy."

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    scherbchenscherbchen Asgard (it is dead)Registered User regular
    doesn't he look tired?

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Low energy.

    Sad.

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Are they holding a seance?
    WTF?

    My impression is they're re-enacting an M. Bison moment.

    For you, the day Trump won your election was the most important day of your life. But for him, it was Tuesday.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    LOL so predictable
    (official fox news account)



    (WaPo)

    They'very always been at war with what war?

    I see they've become way too wussy to "say it like it is".

    I thought you had to use the 3 magic words?

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    So I'm probably being a puerile idiot for fixating on this but seriously what in the flippin flyin fuck is going on in that orb gripping picture

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    So I'm probably being a puerile idiot for fixating on this but seriously what in the flippin flyin fuck is going on in that orb gripping picture

    It's the ceremonial opening of the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology. Considering the three men involve in opening it, irony is still dead.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Wow, "extremist ideology" is pretty open ended, maybe the Kingdom of Saud is going to send drones to the Midwest to blow up neo-nazis

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Are we (and when I say we I mean, like, establishment figures) all just going to gloss over the pretty much open secret that the Saudis back ISIS, Al-Quaeda and so on, and have done for years?

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    I should certainly think so yes

    Doing anything else would surely make the sword giftings and orb parties pretty fuckin awkward

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    So it's actually the Global Center for Promoting Extremist Ideology. Got it.

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    JazzJazz Registered User regular


    Brian Klaas is a Fellow of the Department of Government at the London School of Economics, and author of The Despot's Accomplice: How the West is Aiding & Abetting in the Decline of Democracy; he was also a pundit (for the Democrat side) in Channel 4 UK's election debate coverage.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I could write for days about just the look on the Kings face, what even is that, did his buried consciousness rise to the surface for a moment, he looks like he just suddenly realized who he is and where he is and who he's with

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    I could write for days about just the look on the Kings face, what even is that, did his buried consciousness rise to the surface for a moment, he looks like he just suddenly realized who he is and where he is and who he's with

    I think he just caught his reflection in the globe.

    Inner monologue: "Oh boy"

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Everywhere I am seeing the signs of media tipping the brims of their hats to the surprising non-fuckup of a speech that was the President's performance. But I am bitter.

    Instead, marvel at this bit from WaPo's coverage:
    Trump summons Muslim nations to confront ‘Islamic terror of all kinds’

    (ugh, this headline)
    ...

    The warm embrace of Trump that was on festive display on his first day in Riyadh continued during a trio of bilateral meetings the president held Sunday at the Ritz-Carlton hotel.

    Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi praised Trump and invited him to visit Egypt, which Trump said he intends to do. Through a translator, Sissi said, “You are a unique personality that is capable of doing the impossible.”

    “I agree!” Trump replied, as his advisers and others looking on laughed.

    Trump went on to compliment Sissi on his fashion, telling the Egyptian leader, “Love your shoes. Boy, those shoes. Man . . .”

    Ha ha ha i love those shoes you use to grind journalists in the face ha ha ha where did you get them do they come in a child's 9

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Everywhere I am seeing the signs of media tipping the brims of their hats to the surprising non-fuckup of a speech that was the President's performance. But I am bitter.

    Instead, marvel at this bit from WaPo's coverage:
    Trump summons Muslim nations to confront ‘Islamic terror of all kinds’

    (ugh, this headline)
    ...

    The warm embrace of Trump that was on festive display on his first day in Riyadh continued during a trio of bilateral meetings the president held Sunday at the Ritz-Carlton hotel.

    Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi praised Trump and invited him to visit Egypt, which Trump said he intends to do. Through a translator, Sissi said, “You are a unique personality that is capable of doing the impossible.”

    “I agree!” Trump replied, as his advisers and others looking on laughed.

    Trump went on to compliment Sissi on his fashion, telling the Egyptian leader, “Love your shoes. Boy, those shoes. Man . . .”

    Ha ha ha i love those shoes you use to grind journalists in the face ha ha ha where did you get them do they come in a child's 9

    This reads like a passive jab that Trump isn't self aware to grasp. :)

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Everywhere I am seeing the signs of media tipping the brims of their hats to the surprising non-fuckup of a speech that was the President's performance. But I am bitter.

    Instead, marvel at this bit from WaPo's coverage:
    Trump summons Muslim nations to confront ‘Islamic terror of all kinds’

    (ugh, this headline)
    ...

    The warm embrace of Trump that was on festive display on his first day in Riyadh continued during a trio of bilateral meetings the president held Sunday at the Ritz-Carlton hotel.

    Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi praised Trump and invited him to visit Egypt, which Trump said he intends to do. Through a translator, Sissi said, “You are a unique personality that is capable of doing the impossible.”

    “I agree!” Trump replied, as his advisers and others looking on laughed.

    Trump went on to compliment Sissi on his fashion, telling the Egyptian leader, “Love your shoes. Boy, those shoes. Man . . .”

    Ha ha ha i love those shoes you use to grind journalists in the face ha ha ha where did you get them do they come in a child's 9

    This reads like a passive jab that Trump isn't self aware to grasp. :)

    It almost certainly is

    And the idiot just blabs about his shoes

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Everywhere I am seeing the signs of media tipping the brims of their hats to the surprising non-fuckup of a speech that was the President's performance. But I am bitter.

    Instead, marvel at this bit from WaPo's coverage:
    Trump summons Muslim nations to confront ‘Islamic terror of all kinds’

    (ugh, this headline)
    ...

    The warm embrace of Trump that was on festive display on his first day in Riyadh continued during a trio of bilateral meetings the president held Sunday at the Ritz-Carlton hotel.

    Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi praised Trump and invited him to visit Egypt, which Trump said he intends to do. Through a translator, Sissi said, “You are a unique personality that is capable of doing the impossible.”

    “I agree!” Trump replied, as his advisers and others looking on laughed.

    Trump went on to compliment Sissi on his fashion, telling the Egyptian leader, “Love your shoes. Boy, those shoes. Man . . .”

    Ha ha ha i love those shoes you use to grind journalists in the face ha ha ha where did you get them do they come in a child's 9

    This reads like a passive jab that Trump isn't self aware to grasp. :)

    'Congratulations on the enormity of your success.'

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Everywhere I am seeing the signs of media tipping the brims of their hats to the surprising non-fuckup of a speech that was the President's performance. But I am bitter.

    The press would love a war with Iran for reasons that remain mystifying.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Everywhere I am seeing the signs of media tipping the brims of their hats to the surprising non-fuckup of a speech that was the President's performance. But I am bitter.

    The press would love a war.

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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    Bibi also wants that war so...

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