Stealth in games not designed for stealth. Having to stealth as a group. On a time limit. That gets shorter each time. And they just have to make the screen go all super contrasted during the important part making it hard to just even see anything. It's bad.
Stealth in games not designed for stealth. Having to stealth as a group. On a time limit. That gets shorter each time. And they just have to make the screen go all super contrasted during the important part making it hard to just even see anything. It's bad.
It's not even really stealth; it's just not wandering in a dog's sight line while they're walking directly towards you. And the time limit before they go into the damage phase only gets shorter if you don't coordinate your kills, that's part of the design of the encounter.
I will say that the screen going all contrast heavy during the damage phase is maybe not entirely necessary, considering how you have to find a dog, shoot it, then get back to the safe room on a hard timer, and it's all hella disorienting enough to start.
Dogs were the absolute worst garbage factory garbage when not everyone was a high enough level, making the allowable margin of error microscopic. Extreme bugginess exacerbated this
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I don't think it's bad at all, but it was definitely hard at first. Now that we've become familiar with the layout of the room and the dogs' patterns, it's easy to move around without being seen, and it's easy to one-phase too so you don't have to worry about the time limit getting shorter
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So wait, is the raid easier if you’re 570-600 LL? It doesn’t scale up?
Ah, so I might be able to get through that one soonish. So long as it’s not me in the jumping puzzle. I super hated that, after trying it a few times
Which raid are you talking about? The original Leviathan, which was what was being discussed with the dogs, has enemies up to 290 PL I think
What Crippl3 mentioned going up to 580 PL would be the Last Wish raid
Having a higher Power Level than the enemies doesn't make you any more powerful against them
Oh I was talking about leviathan, the one being discussed up to just before my post.
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Gotcha, so yeah normal Leviathan maxes out at 290 PL since it's the original raid. I'm guessing the jumping puzzle you mean is the Gauntlet, jumping through the tick-tack-toe wall?
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Yep! I learned I’m not good at precision to that degree.
Hey hey, sometime this week my friends and I will be running Last Wish. Two of us have already cleared it and the other three we have have cleared every raid but this one, buuuuuuuut we're all pretty busy and half our group is barely at 550. So, we have room for one more with one of our regulars having a kid!
Anyone who's at least 550LL can come with us, I'll be explaining the whole thing, and we're a nice group. I'll shore up some dates later today.
EDIT: PS4, btw
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Which platform?
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I keep having disconnects when I try to go to the Farm. I've been able to do other stuff in other areas pretty well, but any time I travel back to the Farm... booted back to the lobby.
Headshots are crazy important, most guns do half damage or less on bodyshots. Crimson is relatively low damage per bullet since it's burst unless you nail 2 or 3 to the head.
Also, pulse rifles are really strong right now too, and so are shotguns.
yes, but i aim at the head and get half their shields at best. Crimson was an example, i have poor results with any weapon) is there some sort of weird trick that i'm missing?
i just want Ace of Spades but it makes me do 25 precision hand cannon kills in the crucible and i'm lucky to get 1 in a match i don't want to have to get my ass kicked in 25+ rounds
Most archetypes can be made to work, but there's usually one or two that have a good balance of competitive optimal times to kill and ease of use. I dunno what those archetypes are currently, but someone else probably can. Trying to get a good roll of one of those could help.
Though also, it just always feels like you die faster than your enemies in any PvP thing.
yes, but i aim at the head and get half their shields at best. Crimson was an example, i have poor results with any weapon) is there some sort of weird trick that i'm missing?
i just want Ace of Spades but it makes me do 25 precision hand cannon kills in the crucible and i'm lucky to get 1 in a match i don't want to have to get my ass kicked in 25+ rounds
What's your Resilience? That affects your overall HP, having a couple extra points can mean taking one extra bullet before dying.
Also, the main Crucible HCs I see are Truth, which is an energy HC that shoots really fast, and I see a fair amount of Waking Vigil as well, which you can get in the Dreaming City if you've gotten that far in the campaign.
A quick tip: Hand cannons have the best in-air accuracy of all kinetic/energy weapons (I know they used to be, I think they're still better than bows? Unsure) so jumping around a corner to start a fight or off a ledge when dueling is tricky but can keep your opponents from properly drawing a bead on you while you're relatively unpunished.
i dismantled my truth a while back. i've tried a number of hand cannons including waking vigil. duke, sunshot, midnight coup. i genuinely feel like my mind just can't grasp the aim needed or something.
Yeah HCs are one of the harder guns to use in Crucible I think, because missing a shot can be super punishing.Crimson is actually one of my favorites, especially if you can get the catalyst because that gives it MAX range which is pretty awesome.
i have crimson's catalyst, actually. but i mostly hate hand cannons, but they're everywhere so it gives me the impression that they're really good. either way the only reason i'm trying them is to finish the ace of spades quest. i guess if i do enough rounds i'll get it through sheer perseverance.
So I played this back when it came out on PS4 and drifted away pretty quick, but my friends and I grabbed it for free on PC and then Forsaken on sale and this holiday is weekend we went kind of ham and cleared the original story and Osiris. And man this game feels so much better to me on a mouse, it is much more my comfort zone.
What’s the optimal progression path these days? Is it still burn through all the story stuff, saving all the powerful item missions and resources you can until level cap? What’s next storyline wise for us?
The Warmind expansion came after Osiris, that's mostly set on Mars.
As for the Crucible, I didn't play it much between Osiris and Forsaken, but, for me, something seems off the matchmaking.
There seems to be a lot of one-sided matches these days, there's certainly more than before Forsaken.
i have crimson's catalyst, actually. but i mostly hate hand cannons, but they're everywhere so it gives me the impression that they're really good. either way the only reason i'm trying them is to finish the ace of spades quest. i guess if i do enough rounds i'll get it through sheer perseverance.
Hand cannons are pretty good, especially Trust because it's pretty fast and very stable. The issue with hand cannons is if you miss a shot, your TTK just went up a lot, relatively. Gotta land those headshots
You may explode faster than normal if you run up against: 1. someone with Ace of Spaces with the damage buff on, 2. something with Kill Clip on, 3. Luna's Howl with its perk on
Other than that, there's no real trick, just have to learn the flow of the match and common conflict zones on the map
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Warmind wants me to be 310 light level and I am only like 270, what's the recommend path for jacking that up?
Do anything, really. Up until 500, any blue or purple will probably be an upgrade. Do public events, grind lost sectors, or run some crucible or gambit.
Also don't be afraid to do any of the uh... what the fuck are they called now? Challenges? The stuff that gives powerful gear. The pre-level 50 ones are different than the level 50 ones. So you could do the flashpoint at 49, hit 50 and then do it again.
Also don't be afraid to do any of the uh... what the fuck are they called now? Challenges? The stuff that gives powerful gear. The pre-level 50 ones are different than the level 50 ones. So you could do the flashpoint at 49, hit 50 and then do it again.
I don't think they're powerful engrams below 50 though, just legendary engrams. Another thing to be aware of is your collection. Items pulled from the collection are 20 power below your character's, so you can boost your power a bit with a piece of blue gear if any slots are below that.
That comes in especially handy later on when leveling alts (both the leveling to 50, and the 500-600 power grind post-50). The Sorrow MG2 smg that you pick up in the beginning of the game doesn't have a level requirement when pulled from collections, for some reason. So you can pull one on your highest power character and sent it to your alts for leveling. Horror Story (can't get anymore unfortunately) and Thunderlord are similar, but I think they cap out at level 20 requirement instead of none.
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Oh, you're gonna love Spire of Stars.
What makes you consider it the worst ever? Do you not like sneaking missions? It's pretty easy once you learn the movement patterns
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It's not even really stealth; it's just not wandering in a dog's sight line while they're walking directly towards you. And the time limit before they go into the damage phase only gets shorter if you don't coordinate your kills, that's part of the design of the encounter.
I will say that the screen going all contrast heavy during the damage phase is maybe not entirely necessary, considering how you have to find a dog, shoot it, then get back to the safe room on a hard timer, and it's all hella disorienting enough to start.
Wasn't so bad when overleveled
So goes most raid encounters in Destiny
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The power level of the enemies gets higher in each encounter, ending at 580 I believe.
Which raid are you talking about? The original Leviathan, which was what was being discussed with the dogs, has enemies up to 290 PL I think
What Crippl3 mentioned going up to 580 PL would be the Last Wish raid
Having a higher Power Level than the enemies doesn't make you any more powerful against them
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Oh I was talking about leviathan, the one being discussed up to just before my post.
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Anyone who's at least 550LL can come with us, I'll be explaining the whole thing, and we're a nice group. I'll shore up some dates later today.
EDIT: PS4, btw
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Oops, PS4.
Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
quit after Curse of Osiris
is Warmind and Forsaken worth $30?
if the response is any form of 'get gud' i'll fuckin end you
Also, pulse rifles are really strong right now too, and so are shotguns.
i just want Ace of Spades but it makes me do 25 precision hand cannon kills in the crucible and i'm lucky to get 1 in a match i don't want to have to get my ass kicked in 25+ rounds
Though also, it just always feels like you die faster than your enemies in any PvP thing.
What's your Resilience? That affects your overall HP, having a couple extra points can mean taking one extra bullet before dying.
Also, the main Crucible HCs I see are Truth, which is an energy HC that shoots really fast, and I see a fair amount of Waking Vigil as well, which you can get in the Dreaming City if you've gotten that far in the campaign.
A quick tip: Hand cannons have the best in-air accuracy of all kinetic/energy weapons (I know they used to be, I think they're still better than bows? Unsure) so jumping around a corner to start a fight or off a ledge when dueling is tricky but can keep your opponents from properly drawing a bead on you while you're relatively unpunished.
The Crucible in a nutshell:
What’s the optimal progression path these days? Is it still burn through all the story stuff, saving all the powerful item missions and resources you can until level cap? What’s next storyline wise for us?
As for the Crucible, I didn't play it much between Osiris and Forsaken, but, for me, something seems off the matchmaking.
There seems to be a lot of one-sided matches these days, there's certainly more than before Forsaken.
Hand cannons are pretty good, especially Trust because it's pretty fast and very stable. The issue with hand cannons is if you miss a shot, your TTK just went up a lot, relatively. Gotta land those headshots
You may explode faster than normal if you run up against: 1. someone with Ace of Spaces with the damage buff on, 2. something with Kill Clip on, 3. Luna's Howl with its perk on
Other than that, there's no real trick, just have to learn the flow of the match and common conflict zones on the map
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Do anything, really. Up until 500, any blue or purple will probably be an upgrade. Do public events, grind lost sectors, or run some crucible or gambit.
Oh good to know!
That comes in especially handy later on when leveling alts (both the leveling to 50, and the 500-600 power grind post-50). The Sorrow MG2 smg that you pick up in the beginning of the game doesn't have a level requirement when pulled from collections, for some reason. So you can pull one on your highest power character and sent it to your alts for leveling. Horror Story (can't get anymore unfortunately) and Thunderlord are similar, but I think they cap out at level 20 requirement instead of none.
Also a bunch of info on the new season and what's coming up for the next year:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/47465