Is Clem still a manic pixie dream girl when she repeatedly reminds Joel that she is her own fucked up person with insecurities and all the rest and she's not going to fix him so he shouldn't think she will?
I say no. If anything the film is a refutation of the MPDG "trope".
Doesn't the original MPDG, Holly Golightly, have an extremely similar rant at the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's?
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MPDGs don't want though? That's the appeal to the male lead. They're there to open a door and that's about it.
"A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
So, MoviePass just got even cheaper. You can now sub for a year at a time and save an extra couple bucks a month.
They just made a big cash and subscriber grab by dropping the price to $9.95 that is only sustainable if they manage to get big theater chains to partner up with them, or find a way to sell their customer data at some pretty ridiculous rates. And now they're going even lower if you lock in for a year, which seems to indicate that they either need a rapid infusion of cash and/or to increase membership even further to achieve one or more of their goals. It reeks a bit of desperation and would have me worried about their odds of actually existing for another year, especially in a form that would still be worthwhile.
As long as it's working well people should totally jump on the $10/month train and ride it until it doesn't. I'd be very wary of paying for a year in advance though.
It seems more like a normal "black friday" deal that will also allow them to boast x-million subscribers this year kind of stuff. Its a start up, so its going to be all bullshit and handwaving.
MoviePass has been around since late 2012 or early 2013, which is when I signed up with them for a while. That's a bit too long for me to handwave them as a start-up.
"As Slash Film points out, current users can switch over to the yearly plan, but new subscribers can only choose the yearly plan until the offer period is up. MoviePass also says it won’t be offering refunds if you cancel an annual subscription before the year is up."
Yeah, that's not just a Black Friday deal. That's a pretty good sign that they need cash and/or subscribers ASAP.
Them dropping the price coincided with a data analytics company buying a major share of the company. They've switched to a high growth, sell user info, strategy so they probably don't care if they're bleeding on the subscriptions they get over the next month because "2 million subscribers" sounds better as the prep for an IPO than actually making money.
Oh. They absolutely do. There is no way the data is worth the margin on viewing. The model only works if people do not see movies or if they get a discount from theaters.
Is Clem still a manic pixie dream girl when she repeatedly reminds Joel that she is her own fucked up person with insecurities and all the rest and she's not going to fix him so he shouldn't think she will?
I say no. If anything the film is a refutation of the MPDG "trope".
Doesn't the original MPDG, Holly Golightly, have an extremely similar rant at the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's?
I would call her an extrovert. Mr. Capote is a better writer than that
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It's Marty's 75th birthday. List your top five and then prepare to argue.
1. The Last Temptation of Christ
2. Taxi Driver
3. Goodfellas
4. Raging Bull
5. Mean Streets
It's lengthy (at least 4 acts with distinct pro and epilogues) and imperfect, but there's some really incredible stuff in it. Shinoda adapted the same novel in the 70's, and that version is really worth seeing too.
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1. Taxi Driver
2. Hugo
3. The Wolf of Wall Street
4. Goodfellas
5. Cape Fear
For a long time Taxi Driver was my favorite movie, period. It’s one of those works of art, like The Catcher in the Rye, that captures a mood and a character with such mysterious, enveloping force of effect that you feel swept along despite yourself. In Taxi Driver it’s the American loneliness of a little man with a little job and nothing else to anchor his instability. A haunted film, about a deeply unhappy man in an uncaring world.
Ebert wrote:
This utter aloneness is at the center of "Taxi Driver," one of the best and most powerful of all films, and perhaps it is why so many people connect with it even though Travis Bickle would seem to be the most alienating of movie heroes. We have all felt as alone as Travis. Most of us are better at dealing with it.
Martin Scorsese's 1976 film (...) is a film that does not grow dated, or over-familiar. I have seen it dozens of times. Every time I see it, it works; I am drawn into Travis' underworld of alienation, loneliness, haplessness and anger.
It's Marty's 75th birthday. List your top five and then prepare to argue.
1. The Last Temptation of Christ
2. Taxi Driver
3. Goodfellas
4. Raging Bull
5. Mean Streets
I found it hilarious that christians got pissed as hell over The Last Temptation Of Christ, yet jizzed in their pants over The Passion Of the Christ. Apparently it's worse to portray Jesus as an actual person than it is to show him getting brutally tortured for two hours. Granted, there was a lot of time between the two, but I think the reactions would be about the same today.
I find it odd sometimes how people and institutions respond to representations of their faith in film. The Vatican sorta showed that they're cool with storytelling that upsets the text, challenges the values of, or otherwise represents people struggling with their religion. They're pretty good sports to recommend stuff like Nazarin and The Gospel According to St. Matthew.
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Nicholson’s argument is really interesting, and I think it’s fair to say that Goodfellas is problematic from a few different perspectives. But it’s still stylistically and culturally innovative and influential, in a way that makes it hard to leave it off the top five Scorcese movies list.
Nicholson’s argument is really interesting, and I think it’s fair to say that Goodfellas is problematic from a few different perspectives. But it’s still stylistically and culturally innovative and influential, in a way that makes it hard to leave it off the top five Scorcese movies list.
I feel like Casino is pretty much him doing a do-over.
In my mind you're supposed to walk away from every Scorsese movie saying "that was cool, but fuck those guys, what a bunch of assholes"
Goodfellas gets to into the weeds on that. Does that make sense? You can also listen to the first episode of The Canon Podcast.
I found it hilarious that christians got pissed as hell over The Last Temptation Of Christ, yet jizzed in their pants over The Passion Of the Christ. Apparently it's worse to portray Jesus as an actual person than it is to show him getting brutally tortured for two hours. Granted, there was a lot of time between the two, but I think the reactions would be about the same today.
The time difference is pretty important, there was initially a feeling that it would be impossible or blasphemous to portray Jesus on screen in even a positive way. I don't think it was universal feeling (after all, there's a long history of Jesus being played by regular folks in Passion Plays), but it certainly was more controversial and has become less controversial over time.
Nicholson’s argument is really interesting, and I think it’s fair to say that Goodfellas is problematic from a few different perspectives. But it’s still stylistically and culturally innovative and influential, in a way that makes it hard to leave it off the top five Scorcese movies list.
I feel like Casino is pretty much him doing a do-over.
In my mind you're supposed to walk away from every Scorsese movie saying "that was cool, but fuck those guys, what a bunch of assholes"
Goodfellas gets to into the weeds on that. Does that make sense? You can also listen to the first episode of The Canon Podcast.
I feel like people who thought being a mobster was great somehow blacked out all the times one mobster betrays and murders another one. About all the parts where being killed by their "family" doesn't even come as a surprise to the victim. How many of the wiseguys were straight up insane serial killers. Oh and that pants shittingly-scary scene where his wife is almost certainly going to be killed if she goes down the alley.
If you ignore all that, it's great! You get tables at restaurants and stuff. *eye roll*
I found it hilarious that christians got pissed as hell over The Last Temptation Of Christ, yet jizzed in their pants over The Passion Of the Christ. Apparently it's worse to portray Jesus as an actual person than it is to show him getting brutally tortured for two hours. Granted, there was a lot of time between the two, but I think the reactions would be about the same today.
The time difference is pretty important, there was initially a feeling that it would be impossible or blasphemous to portray Jesus on screen in even a positive way. I don't think it was universal feeling (after all, there's a long history of Jesus being played by regular folks in Passion Plays), but it certainly was more controversial and has become less controversial over time.
Related question: Was it always as controversial to portray Mohammed as it is now, or did people just start losing their shit at one point and it just sort of kept feeding into itself?
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I think the only film of his I truly loved was The Departed.
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I've always thought it weird that Joe Pesci in Scorsese movies is maybe a top 10 GOAT actor. But Pesci in all other movies is a very bad actor.
I've always thought it weird that Joe Pesci in Scorsese movies is maybe a top 10 GOAT actor. But Pesci in all other movies is a very bad actor.
But My Cousin Vinny!
Ghost directed by Scorsese. After the flop of Clue and...Nuns on the Run, Jonathan Lynn couldn't be trusted with something so prestigious. In comes Martin, holding Lynn's hand the entire way. Your welcome for that Oscar, Tomei!
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I've always thought it weird that Joe Pesci in Scorsese movies is maybe a top 10 GOAT actor. But Pesci in all other movies is a very bad actor.
But My Cousin Vinny!
Ghost directed by Scorsese. After the flop of Clue and...Nuns on the Run, Jonathan Lynn couldn't be trusted with something so prestigious. In comes Martin, holding Lynn's hand the entire way. Your welcome for that Oscar, Tomei!
Wooah, Woooah, Woooah, Woooah.
Did I just hear someone badmouth Clue?
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At the time Clue did not do too hot at release. It only really gained a cult following later.
Where is that ghost scorsese thing coming from? Can't find it
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I found it hilarious that christians got pissed as hell over The Last Temptation Of Christ, yet jizzed in their pants over The Passion Of the Christ. Apparently it's worse to portray Jesus as an actual person than it is to show him getting brutally tortured for two hours. Granted, there was a lot of time between the two, but I think the reactions would be about the same today.
The time difference is pretty important, there was initially a feeling that it would be impossible or blasphemous to portray Jesus on screen in even a positive way. I don't think it was universal feeling (after all, there's a long history of Jesus being played by regular folks in Passion Plays), but it certainly was more controversial and has become less controversial over time.
Related question: Was it always as controversial to portray Mohammed as it is now, or did people just start losing their shit at one point and it just sort of kept feeding into itself?
I don't know the history of Muslim attitudes re:film*, but Islam has much stronger prohibitions on depicting humans (and especially depicting Mohammed) in any visual art. Whereas Christianity has a long history of depicting Jesus (although in the very very early days there was a fair bit of controversy over whether religious icons were idolatrous, with the iconoclasts losing that one).
*all I know is that even the 1976 film The Message had some controversy, and that film was very careful.
In accordance with Muslim beliefs regarding depictions of Muhammad, he was not depicted on-screen nor was his voice heard because Islamic tradition generally forbids any direct representation of religious figures. At the beginning of the film, the following disclaimer is displayed:
The makers of this film honour the Islamic tradition which holds that the impersonation of the Prophet offends against the spirituality of his message. Therefore, the person of Mohammad will not be shown (or heard).
The rule above was also extended to his wives, his daughters including Fatimah, his sons-in-law, and the first caliphs (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali ibn Talib his paternal cousin). This left Muhammad's uncle Hamza (Anthony Quinn) and his adopted son Zayd (Damien Thomas) as the central characters. During the battles of Badr and Uhud depicted in the movie, Hamza was in nominal command, even though the actual fighting was led by Muhammad.
Whenever Muhammad was present or very close by, his presence was indicated by light organ music. His words, as he spoke them, were repeated by someone else such as Hamza, Zayd or Bilal. When a scene called for him to be present, the action was filmed from his point of view. Others in the scene nodded to the unheard dialogue or moved with the camera as though moving with Muhammad.
The closest the film comes to a depiction of Muhammad or his immediate family are the view of Ali's famous two-pronged sword Zulfiqar during the battle scenes, a glimpse of a staff in the scenes at the Kaaba or in Medina, and Muhammad's camel, Qaswa.
So, rewatching Stranger Than Fiction today... Where did this Will Ferrell go? I remember waiting to see what interesting things he would do after this movie, but for some reason he just went back to being Will Ferrell, in Will Ferrell movies. In Stranger Than Fiction his performance is perfectly understated, fitting just right in a movie that is itself admirably understated, given it's way-out-there premise.
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So, rewatching Stranger Than Fiction today... Where did this Will Ferrell go? I remember waiting to see what interesting things he would do after this movie, but for some reason he just went back to being Will Ferrell, in Will Ferrell movies. In Stranger Than Fiction his performance is perfectly understated, fitting just right in a movie that is itself admirably understated, given it's way-out-there premise.
It felt the closest any modern actor got to Fred MacMurray. Specifically in the movie Murder, He Said
Where is that ghost scorsese thing coming from? Can't find it
I know tone is hard to read on the internet, but come on. I was clearly joking. Scorsese didn't ghost direct My Cousin Vinny, but you've made my day knowing that it's been googled.
I've always thought it weird that Joe Pesci in Scorsese movies is maybe a top 10 GOAT actor. But Pesci in all other movies is a very bad actor.
But My Cousin Vinny!
Ghost directed by Scorsese. After the flop of Clue and...Nuns on the Run, Jonathan Lynn couldn't be trusted with something so prestigious. In comes Martin, holding Lynn's hand the entire way. Your welcome for that Oscar, Tomei!
Wooah, Woooah, Woooah, Woooah.
Did I just hear someone badmouth Clue?
You know, some people use emoticons to denote sarcasm. Me, I denote sarcasm by referring to My Cousin Vinny as a prestige piece.
Some comedic actors do a one off mostly non comedic role and it works well. Like one of my favorite Ben Stiller roles is his not watson in Zero Effect. Or the writer of
not Alf in Permanent Midnight.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
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Doesn't the original MPDG, Holly Golightly, have an extremely similar rant at the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's?
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor
My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
Oh. They absolutely do. There is no way the data is worth the margin on viewing. The model only works if people do not see movies or if they get a discount from theaters.
I would call her an extrovert. Mr. Capote is a better writer than that
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
1. The Last Temptation of Christ
2. Taxi Driver
3. Goodfellas
4. Raging Bull
5. Mean Streets
2. The Wolf of Wall Street
3. The King of Comedy
4. Goodfellas
5. After Hours
Shout outs to Kundun and Silence, which probably aren't going to get many mentions.
2. Casino
3. Raging Bull
4. The King of Comedy
5. Wolf of Wall Street
I really want to see Silence
It's pretty long, right?
I hear it's a great movie you never want to see again, so maybe doing that then rewatching Last Temptation.
And then rewatch Paddington and Wayne's World.
2. Hugo
3. The Wolf of Wall Street
4. Goodfellas
5. Cape Fear
For a long time Taxi Driver was my favorite movie, period. It’s one of those works of art, like The Catcher in the Rye, that captures a mood and a character with such mysterious, enveloping force of effect that you feel swept along despite yourself. In Taxi Driver it’s the American loneliness of a little man with a little job and nothing else to anchor his instability. A haunted film, about a deeply unhappy man in an uncaring world.
Ebert wrote:
I found it hilarious that christians got pissed as hell over The Last Temptation Of Christ, yet jizzed in their pants over The Passion Of the Christ. Apparently it's worse to portray Jesus as an actual person than it is to show him getting brutally tortured for two hours. Granted, there was a lot of time between the two, but I think the reactions would be about the same today.
What does she say exactly?
I feel like Casino is pretty much him doing a do-over.
In my mind you're supposed to walk away from every Scorsese movie saying "that was cool, but fuck those guys, what a bunch of assholes"
Goodfellas gets to into the weeds on that. Does that make sense? You can also listen to the first episode of The Canon Podcast.
Choose Your Own Chat 1 Choose Your Own Chat 2 Choose Your Own Chat 3
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I feel like people who thought being a mobster was great somehow blacked out all the times one mobster betrays and murders another one. About all the parts where being killed by their "family" doesn't even come as a surprise to the victim. How many of the wiseguys were straight up insane serial killers. Oh and that pants shittingly-scary scene where his wife is almost certainly going to be killed if she goes down the alley.
If you ignore all that, it's great! You get tables at restaurants and stuff. *eye roll*
Related question: Was it always as controversial to portray Mohammed as it is now, or did people just start losing their shit at one point and it just sort of kept feeding into itself?
But My Cousin Vinny!
Ghost directed by Scorsese. After the flop of Clue and...Nuns on the Run, Jonathan Lynn couldn't be trusted with something so prestigious. In comes Martin, holding Lynn's hand the entire way. Your welcome for that Oscar, Tomei!
SIG's opening argument:
Wooah, Woooah, Woooah, Woooah.
Did I just hear someone badmouth Clue?
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
kind of like The King of Comedy
*all I know is that even the 1976 film The Message had some controversy, and that film was very careful.
It felt the closest any modern actor got to Fred MacMurray. Specifically in the movie Murder, He Said
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I know tone is hard to read on the internet, but come on. I was clearly joking. Scorsese didn't ghost direct My Cousin Vinny, but you've made my day knowing that it's been googled.
You know, some people use emoticons to denote sarcasm. Me, I denote sarcasm by referring to My Cousin Vinny as a prestige piece.
not Alf in Permanent Midnight.
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