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Who's the best character in [Justice League]?
QuetziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderatormod
Little here was actively bad, but (outside of one or two jokes that landed for me) nothing was really exciting or interesting either. The movie just shifts back and forth between pleasant and almost-boring. Would probably be a good movie to fall asleep to.
I guess Flash and Wonder Woman were handled well, and Cyborg was a lot better than I was expecting. Batman a bit too jokey, and Superman... I guess none of the characters really had anything to do? Which hurts what you can say about them. Aquaman was a good presence (and I'm still very much looking forward to the Aquaman movie) but his scene with Mera was one of the few things that was bad.
Also poor was the way they re-introduce Superman. It's just extremely ham-fisted and terribly devoid of drama. The movie seems to think we'll be engrossed by the question of if Flash will be able to run fast and touch the thing when... was it ever in doubt? Is there going to be a single person who'll watch this and not assume it a foregone conclusion? And Flash joking about how weird and creepy the whole plan is doesn't make it not weird and creepy.
A whole bunch of "it's fine" in service of an uninteresting story. A shame too, because if you gave all these people something to actually do I think they could step up.
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
Aquaman and Flash were fun while also nothing like their comics selves.
Wonder Woman was disappointingly uninteresting. Batman was actively boring and by far the worst part of the movie that isn't named Steppenwolf.
Superman was really good but isn't in it much.
Looked garish as hell, had some real bad pacing and most of the jokes were C+ at best but the action was fun and I didn't absolutely hate it.
Oh, Cyborg was surprisingly good. Like his CG was terrible but Ray Fisher put in a good performance and the character was probably the most fully formed of the team.
Steppenwolf is the most bland, forgettable generic world conquering villain I've seen in a comic flick and that's before you factor in that he's 100% CG and not well done CG either
I was hopeful when Steppenwolf didn't dance around calling them Motherboxes* that we'd get some crazy Jack Kirby-Fourth World language being thrown around. Sadly, he mostly talks in generic bad-guyisms. No "I am the Tiger-Force at the core of all things" or such.
*Like, the way Cyborg's dad had a different name for one, in a way that I'd expect to be carried throughout the movie. But once a character hears them called a Motherbox they just revert to that being the right thing to say.
I didn't hate him, but I think they were trying way too hard with him
Like his dialogue was roughly 90% jokes and quips
This was me with Aquaman
Edit: I also think Jason Momoa is a bad actor, which may factor into this
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Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
Cyborg
affleck shoulda got pasted halfway through and just replaced by jeremy irons
Yeah, this was okay. I certainly didn't hate it.
I also didn't roll my eyes once, which the same can't be said of Batman vs Superman.
So overall, I'm calling it a win.
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SnicketysnickThe Greatest Hype Man inWesterosRegistered Userregular
edited November 2017
Aquaman
Count me into the "fine" camp. Some really actually good bits in there though which is nice. Very surprised by how much I enjoyed Cyborg, though
the fact that he's basically a plot machine is a shame, but I suppose unavoidable with the origin and story.
As mentioned earlier, Superman is actually Superman, (he even uses freeze breath what the hell??) that block of a whole AR magazine by Wonder Woman was fantastic and Flash is pretty decent.
Big plus points for not just killing all the Amazons
Bad points for Batman still being Gunman.
Aquaman had a decent intro I think, will be checking out his solo outing for sure as I think there's a solid foundation to go somewhere.
As for the credits scenes
can't believe that Barry didn't stipulate a foot race.
Deathstroke eh? Bar has been set quite well by Arrowverse so that's going to be tough
Count me into the "fine" camp. Some really actually good bits in there though which is nice. Very surprised by how much I enjoyed Cyborg, though
the fact that he's basically a plot machine is a shame, but I suppose unavoidable with the origin and story.
As mentioned earlier, Superman is actually Superman, (he even uses freeze breath what the hell??) that block of a whole AR magazine by Wonder Woman was fantastic and Flash is pretty decent.
Big plus points for not just killing all the Amazons
Bad points for Batman still being Gunman.
Aquaman had a decent intro I think, will be checking out his solo outing for sure as I think there's a solid foundation to go somewhere.
As for the credits scenes
can't believe that Barry didn't stipulate a foot race.
Deathstroke eh? Bar has been set quite well by Arrowverse so that's going to be tough
Credits scene
Crap, that means he's got to die on Arrow, right? Can't have two different Deathstrokes wandering around being all confusing to the viewers.
During the flashback to the first time Steppenwolf tried to invade...
... does anyone know who the one woman with the bow and the lava arm was supposed to be? The guy chucking thunderbolts was obviously Zeus, but for her I was thinking maybe more like a Polynesian goddess like Pele?
(In the Simone run on Wonder Woman, when the Olympians had left Diana turned to Kāne for help. But I don't know if the rest of the Hawaiian pantheon has been used before and that character had a pretty distinct look.)
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SnicketysnickThe Greatest Hype Man inWesterosRegistered Userregular
Aquaman
I assumed
Athena, keeping it greek
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Sweeney Tomtry The Substanceit changed my lifeRegistered Userregular
Aquaman
Add me to the "fine" camp, better than BvS and SS which is all I could have hoped for.
Has anybody heard the soundtrack yet? Was interested in it since I heard Junkie XL would be involved, I loved his Fury Road work
Flash running to join in the fight against Superman and going bug-eyed when he saw Superman turning to him, tracking his movement.
Close second was Wonder Woman blocking all those bullets. I didn't think she can normally do something like that, but eh.
Question:
Can bullets actually hurt WW?
depends
if the writer keeps her sometimes weakness of "piercing weapons" and if the writer thinks bullets count for that
i mean we all have that weakness
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Theodore Flooseveltproud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelodorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered Userregular
Add me to the "fine" camp, better than BvS and SS which is all I could have hoped for.
Has anybody heard the soundtrack yet? Was interested in it since I heard Junkie XL would be involved, I loved his Fury Road work
during the movie I was pretty underwhelmed, it was very "Danny elfman being Danny elfman"
I don't know the actual division of labor/credit but i wouldn't be surprised if the entirety of junkie's stuff was like, the inclusion of the Wonder Woman theme, etc
Yeah it's just random orchestral noodling for most of it
Just looking at the Spotify tracks, Junkie XL is only credited on that cover of Come Together that was used in the trailers
Did he like, co-compose the Wonder Woman theme? I thought it was a Hans Zimmer jam
I liked the movie, even if you could really tell they wanted the humour to be completely amped up. I think it'd be a much better movie if you cut Batman out of it entirely.
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Wonder Woman, Superman, The Flash, and Cyborg were all pretty great.
Aquaman sucked.
Steppenwolf was essentially a non-entity, but a better non-entity than most superhero movies can manage.
Batman was the absolute fucking worst thing in the world.
I'm sorry! But I agree that Batman was just the worst part of the movie
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It was so undynamic and out of character
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Isn't Batman supposed to be stealthy
I also don't know why they dedicated so much screen time to a sequence in which Affleck moves so little, in the middle of this huge action set piece
I guess Flash and Wonder Woman were handled well, and Cyborg was a lot better than I was expecting. Batman a bit too jokey, and Superman... I guess none of the characters really had anything to do? Which hurts what you can say about them. Aquaman was a good presence (and I'm still very much looking forward to the Aquaman movie) but his scene with Mera was one of the few things that was bad.
Also poor was the way they re-introduce Superman. It's just extremely ham-fisted and terribly devoid of drama. The movie seems to think we'll be engrossed by the question of if Flash will be able to run fast and touch the thing when... was it ever in doubt? Is there going to be a single person who'll watch this and not assume it a foregone conclusion? And Flash joking about how weird and creepy the whole plan is doesn't make it not weird and creepy.
A whole bunch of "it's fine" in service of an uninteresting story. A shame too, because if you gave all these people something to actually do I think they could step up.
Aquaman and Flash were fun while also nothing like their comics selves.
Wonder Woman was disappointingly uninteresting. Batman was actively boring and by far the worst part of the movie that isn't named Steppenwolf.
Superman was really good but isn't in it much.
Looked garish as hell, had some real bad pacing and most of the jokes were C+ at best but the action was fun and I didn't absolutely hate it.
Oh, Cyborg was surprisingly good. Like his CG was terrible but Ray Fisher put in a good performance and the character was probably the most fully formed of the team.
(I haven't seen the movie)
*Like, the way Cyborg's dad had a different name for one, in a way that I'd expect to be carried throughout the movie. But once a character hears them called a Motherbox they just revert to that being the right thing to say.
Like his dialogue was roughly 90% jokes and quips
Like I get they're going for him not being experienced and a goober but holy crap he might as well have been doing the Naruto run
The actual super speed effects looked good though
Close second was Wonder Woman blocking all those bullets. I didn't think she can normally do something like that, but eh.
This was me with Aquaman
Edit: I also think Jason Momoa is a bad actor, which may factor into this
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My wife made this exact same comparison immediately after they showed it.
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I'm not sure what to think. I've never had a movie with that ratio before
this Superman is good! what the hell!
depends
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I also didn't roll my eyes once, which the same can't be said of Batman vs Superman.
So overall, I'm calling it a win.
As mentioned earlier, Superman is actually Superman, (he even uses freeze breath what the hell??) that block of a whole AR magazine by Wonder Woman was fantastic and Flash is pretty decent.
Big plus points for not just killing all the Amazons
Bad points for Batman still being Gunman.
Aquaman had a decent intro I think, will be checking out his solo outing for sure as I think there's a solid foundation to go somewhere.
As for the credits scenes
Deathstroke eh? Bar has been set quite well by Arrowverse so that's going to be tough
Credits scene
(In the Simone run on Wonder Woman, when the Olympians had left Diana turned to Kāne for help. But I don't know if the rest of the Hawaiian pantheon has been used before and that character had a pretty distinct look.)
Has anybody heard the soundtrack yet? Was interested in it since I heard Junkie XL would be involved, I loved his Fury Road work
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i mean we all have that weakness
during the movie I was pretty underwhelmed, it was very "Danny elfman being Danny elfman"
I don't know the actual division of labor/credit but i wouldn't be surprised if the entirety of junkie's stuff was like, the inclusion of the Wonder Woman theme, etc
Just looking at the Spotify tracks, Junkie XL is only credited on that cover of Come Together that was used in the trailers
Did he like, co-compose the Wonder Woman theme? I thought it was a Hans Zimmer jam
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