Yeah, the photo was just a combination of first-light from the lander's instruments and a "see how dead I'm not" confirmation. It also has a dust cover on it which they're going to jettison in a bit.
Not much to see in the photo, but I assume everyone is excited because it shows the lander being upright?
Also, I didn't hear anyone call out if the landing jets fired, and I saw that gentlemans jaw quivering as it was coming in, with the lady calling out elevations, and I was terrified they hadn't fired and it was going to splat.
That's pretty much it. The photo shows InSight is intact, fully functioning and able to phone home to send her data. That's a dream scenario. That's 100% success. That's total win.
550,000 people viewing live on the main Youtube stream, another 190,000 on the other Youtube stream. Plus NASA TV and Times Square, and probably tons of different news sites and tv channels
It shows the lander is upright/talking and the landing field appears clear of major obstructions. The lander also appears to have communicated directly back to home base that it is nominal.
550,000 people viewing live on the main Youtube stream, another 190,000 on the other Youtube stream. Plus NASA TV and Times Square, and probably tons of different news sites and tv channels
I'm watching from Ireland on NASA TV, but I am also able to watch the coverage on RTE News Now or BBC News 24.
Pretty happy to be alive in a time where I can watch this stuff.
Well... "Watch" is kinda ambiguous. Makes you wonder why, since we have such powerful telescopes we cant literally focus and watch it in real time on mars.
You'd need a telescope at least 200 kilometers across to resolve a 1 meter object on mars. But while you could do that with an array of smaller telescopes (atmospheric blurring notwithstanding), the light gathering ability would be low and you may still require long exposure times to see anything, which means it can't be moving. Plus, the lightspeed delay means the thing still landed 8 minutes before you saw it do so in the telescope.
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Guys if you could indulge me for one moment, on behalf of the European Space Agency, I would like to ask you to raise your glasses to Beagle 2: an ambitious Mars lander that just didn't quite make it.
And let's toast the success of InSight while we're at it. Yay!
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Also, that looks like a color photo! Which excites me for maybe stupid reasons, but I hate seeing photos with "color added".
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
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So this landed like 20 minutes ago? Hooray! Kinda curious how a seismometer is going to help with the mission of learning the internal structure of Mars.
So this landed like 20 minutes ago? Hooray! Kinda curious how a seismometer is going to help with the mission of learning the internal structure of Mars.
Not just a seismometer it also is going to be drilling down to try to measure the temp of mars to see if it still has a live core or if its core has solidified.
I'd only heard of InSight yesterday, from the Oatmeal infograph comic on it. But I'm watching the livestream now and excited on the successful touchdown.
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So this landed like 20 minutes ago? Hooray! Kinda curious how a seismometer is going to help with the mission of learning the internal structure of Mars.
Not just a seismometer it also is going to be drilling down to try to measure the temp of mars to see if it still has a live core or if its core has solidified.
How far is it meant to drill to try and get this measurement?
So this landed like 20 minutes ago? Hooray! Kinda curious how a seismometer is going to help with the mission of learning the internal structure of Mars.
Not just a seismometer it also is going to be drilling down to try to measure the temp of mars to see if it still has a live core or if its core has solidified.
How far is it meant to drill to try and get this measurement?
Up to sixteen feet (5 meters) is the number I've heard.
So this landed like 20 minutes ago? Hooray! Kinda curious how a seismometer is going to help with the mission of learning the internal structure of Mars.
They've got kind of a compound seismometer, and they're going to wait for Marsquakes to happen, and then basically use the way the quake's waves are bouncing each of the little pieces around differentially to learn all kinds of things.
Also, that looks like a color photo! Which excites me for maybe stupid reasons, but I hate seeing photos with "color added".
I think you're talking about "false color" images where it has been done to highlight aspects in the image, but one reason they use black and white cameras with various swappable color filters over the lens and combine the single-color photos later for "full color" rather than use a color camera is because black and white cameras have higher resolution. I.e, the pixels per inch on a color sensor are 3 times less than a black and white sensor.
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How screwed would NASA have been today if that giant, planet wide dust storm was still enveloping Mars?
I'd only heard of InSight yesterday, from the Oatmeal infograph comic on it. But I'm watching the livestream now and excited on the successful touchdown.
That Oatmeal comic was brill. It's on the previous page if anyone missed it.
I'm so damn excited for how happy and emotional the NASA control room is. Also! I learned something! Those guys in the black shirts around all the red shirt guys are the MARCO tech team!
How screwed would NASA have been today if that giant, planet wide dust storm was still enveloping Mars?
Probably put it in sleep mode to conserve power and hope there's enough to deploy the solar panels after the storm.
So, bad enough needing to wait this long to know if it landed, but THEN to wait days, weeks, maybe months until you get to know if anything will work. With the probability ticking down the longer the wait drags on.
It really is a wonder the job isn't one of those ones with statistically alarming suicide rates. The interview process probably just involves the interviewer staring at you for twenty minutes to see how you hold up.
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BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
A couple of minutes after landing someone said that MARCO lost something or other. I'm guessing it moved out of LOS wrt InSight or Earth?
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Take that Mars, now the other planets know to stay in line.
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BeNarwhalThe Work Left UnfinishedRegistered Userregular
Had to miss the landing myself - rare real life responsibilities called to me! -, but I am immensely pleased to see and hear that InSight is firmly on the Martian surface!
Now it will spend some time checking itself out and making sure all its systems are A-OK, and then the slow and methodical claw game to deploy its scientific instruments :P
Had to miss the landing myself - rare real life responsibilities called to me! -, but I am immensely pleased to see and hear that InSight is firmly on the Martian surface!
Now it will spend some time checking itself out and making sure all its systems are A-OK, and then the slow and methodical claw game to deploy its scientific instruments :P
There is going to be SO much to report in this thread in the months ahead! I'm SO excited!
Had to miss the landing myself - rare real life responsibilities called to me! -, but I am immensely pleased to see and hear that InSight is firmly on the Martian surface!
Now it will spend some time checking itself out and making sure all its systems are A-OK, and then the slow and methodical claw game to deploy its scientific instruments :P
I love that it has a little hat to put on the seismometer.
So this landed like 20 minutes ago? Hooray! Kinda curious how a seismometer is going to help with the mission of learning the internal structure of Mars.
(Lay person understanding) When a quake happens or a meteor strikes you get a bunch of waves radiating away from the site of that and those will bend if they hit a different type of material. They also bounce and come back. So if there is no deflection of these waves the inside would be the same material in the same state.
They had a cool graphic of it in the live stream. I'm trying to find it too.
Edit: They talk about it at the veeery beginning of this video - you'll have to manually go back because it tries to play from a different point and it won't let me share with a time offset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL7sKEZo3_8
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BeNarwhalThe Work Left UnfinishedRegistered Userregular
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That barge on the previous page, by the way, is the OG - Just Read The Instructions, getting ready to catch a rocket booster flying out of Vandenberg soon!
The launch has been delayed to December 1st at this time, but still - soon!
So I will keep y'all posted on the new launch date and time once it is firmed up - we're mad at upper level winds for the delay this time :P
The AI crew member that was sent to the ISS in June has now been officially debuted.
Five minutes after being turned on, it threw a tantrum, refusing to turn off music and accusing astronauts of being mean to it before sinking to the deck and demanding lunch.
In related news, Curiosity saw a shiny thing. Possibly a metallic meteorite, the rovers have found a couple of them already.
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The AI crew member that was sent to the ISS in June has now been officially debuted.
Five minutes after being turned on, it threw a tantrum, refusing to turn off music and accusing astronauts of being mean to it before sinking to the deck and demanding lunch.
In related news, Curiosity saw a shiny thing. Possibly a metallic meteorite, the rovers have found a couple of them already.
be nice please
don't you like it here with me?
haha god damn cimon
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
The reaction the astronauts have when it starts acting upset is so good. CIMON is silly, I like it.
It's there to break monotony and boost morale. As long as they can turn it off and it can't interface with the pod bay doors it's antics are harmless and amusing enough.
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BTW the best part of the video is the end when they just show it with its smirking face drifting to the side. That's some heavy duty meme material. It has a very strong ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) vibe.
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That's pretty much it. The photo shows InSight is intact, fully functioning and able to phone home to send her data. That's a dream scenario. That's 100% success. That's total win.
550,000 people viewing live on the main Youtube stream, another 190,000 on the other Youtube stream. Plus NASA TV and Times Square, and probably tons of different news sites and tv channels
Snap of the image I grabbed. Mars!
Spots are debris on a dust screen according to the stream and nothing to be concerned about.
So quick to get a picture back!
I'm watching from Ireland on NASA TV, but I am also able to watch the coverage on RTE News Now or BBC News 24.
This is global. This is VERY awesome! :biggrin:
You'd need a telescope at least 200 kilometers across to resolve a 1 meter object on mars. But while you could do that with an array of smaller telescopes (atmospheric blurring notwithstanding), the light gathering ability would be low and you may still require long exposure times to see anything, which means it can't be moving. Plus, the lightspeed delay means the thing still landed 8 minutes before you saw it do so in the telescope.
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And let's toast the success of InSight while we're at it. Yay!
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Not just a seismometer it also is going to be drilling down to try to measure the temp of mars to see if it still has a live core or if its core has solidified.
Up to sixteen feet (5 meters) is the number I've heard.
They've got kind of a compound seismometer, and they're going to wait for Marsquakes to happen, and then basically use the way the quake's waves are bouncing each of the little pieces around differentially to learn all kinds of things.
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I think you're talking about "false color" images where it has been done to highlight aspects in the image, but one reason they use black and white cameras with various swappable color filters over the lens and combine the single-color photos later for "full color" rather than use a color camera is because black and white cameras have higher resolution. I.e, the pixels per inch on a color sensor are 3 times less than a black and white sensor.
BBB
BBB
BBB
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RGB
BRG
GBR
That Oatmeal comic was brill. It's on the previous page if anyone missed it.
I'm so damn excited for how happy and emotional the NASA control room is. Also! I learned something! Those guys in the black shirts around all the red shirt guys are the MARCO tech team!
Probably put it in sleep mode to conserve power and hope there's enough to deploy the solar panels after the storm.
So, bad enough needing to wait this long to know if it landed, but THEN to wait days, weeks, maybe months until you get to know if anything will work. With the probability ticking down the longer the wait drags on.
It really is a wonder the job isn't one of those ones with statistically alarming suicide rates. The interview process probably just involves the interviewer staring at you for twenty minutes to see how you hold up.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Now it will spend some time checking itself out and making sure all its systems are A-OK, and then the slow and methodical claw game to deploy its scientific instruments :P
There is going to be SO much to report in this thread in the months ahead! I'm SO excited!
I love that it has a little hat to put on the seismometer.
(Lay person understanding) When a quake happens or a meteor strikes you get a bunch of waves radiating away from the site of that and those will bend if they hit a different type of material. They also bounce and come back. So if there is no deflection of these waves the inside would be the same material in the same state.
They had a cool graphic of it in the live stream. I'm trying to find it too.
Edit: They talk about it at the veeery beginning of this video - you'll have to manually go back because it tries to play from a different point and it won't let me share with a time offset.
Surface photos of Mars fascinate me. I wonder what the sky looks like from the surface.
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So I will keep y'all posted on the new launch date and time once it is firmed up - we're mad at upper level winds for the delay this time :P
Came across this video which shows the payload adapter being put together.
One more delay, this time until the 2nd, just to keep everyone updated >_> 1831 UTC, which is 1:31pm Eastern, 10:31am Pacific!
The weather in California is being uncooperative, while launches out of Florida have been almost trouble-free all year.
That's not ... the usual way >_>
Thanks Obama.
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Five minutes after being turned on, it threw a tantrum, refusing to turn off music and accusing astronauts of being mean to it before sinking to the deck and demanding lunch.
In related news, Curiosity saw a shiny thing. Possibly a metallic meteorite, the rovers have found a couple of them already.
be nice please
don't you like it here with me?
haha god damn cimon