I've seen a fair bit of Anderson and have mixed reaction to his movies but Grand Budapest Hotel is legitimately fantastic and definitely the one I would recommend to people
So I just looked up Wes Anderson’s filmography and now realize I have literally never seen even one Wes Anderson film.
He's a hard one to recommend to people because even if you broadly like his films, nobody likes the same ones. I don't think I've ever met anybody who genuinely liked every single movie, but I've also never met anyone who agreed with me on what the 'watchable' Anderson's are.
If you wanted to try him out I'd recommend Grand Budapest Hotel, and then if you didn't like that I probably wouldn't bother with any others. But hell maybe there are people out there who hate GBH but fucking love Rushmore.
Are there other directors where people love everything they have produced?
I think that could be relatively uncommon?
I probably worded that badly. It's more that usually there's some consensus on what films [director] pulled off and which they didn't, but with Wes Anderson there is almost no general agreement at all.
I’m a fan of all of his movies, but there’s definitely some I think are weaker. I dig him the most when he’s gunning for deeper emotional core. I find his artifice is a great stage for pathos. GBH, Darjeeling Limited and Life Aquatic hit those notes the best for me.
So I just looked up Wes Anderson’s filmography and now realize I have literally never seen even one Wes Anderson film.
He's a hard one to recommend to people because even if you broadly like his films, nobody likes the same ones. I don't think I've ever met anybody who genuinely liked every single movie, but I've also never met anyone who agreed with me on what the 'watchable' Anderson's are.
If you wanted to try him out I'd recommend Grand Budapest Hotel, and then if you didn't like that I probably wouldn't bother with any others. But hell maybe there are people out there who hate GBH but fucking love Rushmore.
Are there other directors where people love everything they have produced?
I think that could be relatively uncommon?
I do really love Lukas Moodysson, even if Tilsammans (“Together” in the US) was thematically boring to me. I have yet to watch A Hole in my Heart but his first three films - Fucking Amal (“Show Me Love”), Tilsammans, and Lilja 4-Ever are three of the best films I have literally ever seen.
I’m a fan of all of his movies, but there’s definitely some I think are weaker. I dig him the most when he’s gunning for deeper emotional core. I find his artifice is a great stage for pathos. GBH, Darjeeling Limited and Life Aquatic hit those notes the best for me.
Case in point - I totally agree with you about what makes some of his movies better than others, but I would put Royal Tennenbaums well above Darjeeling Limited, and found Life Aquatic fairly boring.
since i've mostly seen twee used as a negative description, i've come to associate it with insincerity, in the same way that the word "cutesy" has more of a negative implication than "cute".
but you've been giving some better definitions that are making me rethink my position.
I’m a fan of all of his movies, but there’s definitely some I think are weaker. I dig him the most when he’s gunning for deeper emotional core. I find his artifice is a great stage for pathos. GBH, Darjeeling Limited and Life Aquatic hit those notes the best for me.
Case in point - I totally agree with you about what makes some of his movies better than others, but I would put Royal Tennenbaums well above Darjeeling Limited, and found Life Aquatic fairly boring.
Royal Tennenbaums totally works on that level too! I just didn’t want to list literally half of his movies.
I’m a fan of all of his movies, but there’s definitely some I think are weaker. I dig him the most when he’s gunning for deeper emotional core. I find his artifice is a great stage for pathos. GBH, Darjeeling Limited and Life Aquatic hit those notes the best for me.
Case in point - I totally agree with you about what makes some of his movies better than others, but I would put Royal Tennenbaums well above Darjeeling Limited, and found Life Aquatic fairly boring.
Aaand I'd rate Royal Tennenbaums well above Darjeeling Limited, but also I loved Life Aquatic!
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So I just looked up Wes Anderson’s filmography and now realize I have literally never seen even one Wes Anderson film.
He's a hard one to recommend to people because even if you broadly like his films, nobody likes the same ones. I don't think I've ever met anybody who genuinely liked every single movie, but I've also never met anyone who agreed with me on what the 'watchable' Anderson's are.
If you wanted to try him out I'd recommend Grand Budapest Hotel, and then if you didn't like that I probably wouldn't bother with any others. But hell maybe there are people out there who hate GBH but fucking love Rushmore.
I know multiple people who love Rushmore and hate everything else he's done, oddly.
For me, I'd say GBH, The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic, and The Darjeeling Limited are the highlights. I loved Rushmore, but I didn't think it held up as well.
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But yeah, I am definitely in the camp of broadly enjoying his movies
Grand Budapest Hotel is easily the top of his career however
Like, not only is it maybe the most Wes Anderson movie with all of his directorial choices and humor mixed with emotion and pathos, but it also handles all of that stuff the absolute best of any of his works
since i've mostly seen twee used as a negative description, i've come to associate it with insincerity, in the same way that the word "cutesy" has more of a negative implication than "cute".
but you've been giving some better definitions that are making me rethink my position.
We had a family friend when I was growing up whose aesthetic and lifestyle definitely fell firmly into twee, but she also was sincere and thoughtful. My father once described her as "deeply fluffy". So that's kind of who/ what I think of when I think of twee.
Pretty sure Tarantino is a guy where when people are in, they’re in for all of it
I was thinking of Tarantino but... I’ve seen Jackie Brown once and I didn’t much care for it. But that was a long time ago so I need to see it again. I’ve lived every other film though. I even loved Four Rooms! Which only has a little bit of Tarantino’s writing and directing touch, but still loved. Tim Roth had a lot to do with that, though.
So I just looked up Wes Anderson’s filmography and now realize I have literally never seen even one Wes Anderson film.
He's a hard one to recommend to people because even if you broadly like his films, nobody likes the same ones. I don't think I've ever met anybody who genuinely liked every single movie, but I've also never met anyone who agreed with me on what the 'watchable' Anderson's are.
If you wanted to try him out I'd recommend Grand Budapest Hotel, and then if you didn't like that I probably wouldn't bother with any others. But hell maybe there are people out there who hate GBH but fucking love Rushmore.
Are there other directors where people love everything they have produced?
I think that could be relatively uncommon?
Ozu - at least, the 20 or so I can get ahold of.
Tarkovsky
Paul Thomas Anderson
Kelly Reichardt
Probably some others. But there are so many who are just one dud away from perfect.
Pretty sure Tarantino is a guy where when people are in, they’re in for all of it
Nah, I love Django and Basterds but can't stand the Kill Bill flicks and think Pulp Fiction is super overrated
I like both Kill Bill's (second more than first), and think Pulp Fiction holds up super well, but thought Django was problematic and Jamie Foxx was kinda wasted, and Hateful Eight was beautiful trash.
I think Pulp Fiction might be one of those things where it was mind blowing when it came out but I saw it much, much later (after seeing tons of things it influenced) and it just felt pretty stale and pointlessly edgy to me when I saw it like 6 or 7 years ago.
So I just looked up Wes Anderson’s filmography and now realize I have literally never seen even one Wes Anderson film.
He's a hard one to recommend to people because even if you broadly like his films, nobody likes the same ones. I don't think I've ever met anybody who genuinely liked every single movie, but I've also never met anyone who agreed with me on what the 'watchable' Anderson's are.
If you wanted to try him out I'd recommend Grand Budapest Hotel, and then if you didn't like that I probably wouldn't bother with any others. But hell maybe there are people out there who hate GBH but fucking love Rushmore.
Are there other directors where people love everything they have produced?
I think that could be relatively uncommon?
For me: Rian Johnson and Satoshi Kon
I was going to say Wong Kar-wai but I haven't seen My Blueberry Nights and I don't particularly want to
hateful 8 is peak tarintino of unpleasant people having long conversaions with a constant underlying hreat of violence and escalation and mistrust
but it doesn't have much in the way of principles or morality other than that.
I literally had a moment where I went "Oh, okay. It's going to be that film" the moment I heard the first racial slur. Once I had kind of relinquished any hopes that it was going to be anything more than "Quentin Tarantino fucks around for almost three hours" I had a pretty good time. That movie is unpleasant and too long and generally mean-spirited, but if you're looking for that kind of a film, it's pretty good.
But, yeah, Hateful 8 is 100% a movie that I like and completely understand why people hate it.
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I feel like Nolan is kind of one of those all-in directors, or at least he was until The Dark Knight Rises, which was pretty divisive even among big fans of Nolan AND Batman.
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hey does Blood Simple actually hold up as its own movie or is it one of those debuts that's like "this is good to see as a blueprint for what the Coens would go on to do"
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I probably worded that badly. It's more that usually there's some consensus on what films [director] pulled off and which they didn't, but with Wes Anderson there is almost no general agreement at all.
I do really love Lukas Moodysson, even if Tilsammans (“Together” in the US) was thematically boring to me. I have yet to watch A Hole in my Heart but his first three films - Fucking Amal (“Show Me Love”), Tilsammans, and Lilja 4-Ever are three of the best films I have literally ever seen.
Thanks, thread.
Case in point - I totally agree with you about what makes some of his movies better than others, but I would put Royal Tennenbaums well above Darjeeling Limited, and found Life Aquatic fairly boring.
but you've been giving some better definitions that are making me rethink my position.
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Royal Tennenbaums totally works on that level too! I just didn’t want to list literally half of his movies.
Aaand I'd rate Royal Tennenbaums well above Darjeeling Limited, but also I loved Life Aquatic!
I know multiple people who love Rushmore and hate everything else he's done, oddly.
For me, I'd say GBH, The Royal Tenenbaums, Life Aquatic, and The Darjeeling Limited are the highlights. I loved Rushmore, but I didn't think it held up as well.
Grand Budapest Hotel is easily the top of his career however
Like, not only is it maybe the most Wes Anderson movie with all of his directorial choices and humor mixed with emotion and pathos, but it also handles all of that stuff the absolute best of any of his works
We had a family friend when I was growing up whose aesthetic and lifestyle definitely fell firmly into twee, but she also was sincere and thoughtful. My father once described her as "deeply fluffy". So that's kind of who/ what I think of when I think of twee.
And if you like that, then hey, go check out Isle of Dogs.
it feels like there were a lot of people who were turned off by hateful 8
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As a fan of Tarantino there are definitely films of his that I have no energy to watch again.
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I was thinking of Tarantino but... I’ve seen Jackie Brown once and I didn’t much care for it. But that was a long time ago so I need to see it again. I’ve lived every other film though. I even loved Four Rooms! Which only has a little bit of Tarantino’s writing and directing touch, but still loved. Tim Roth had a lot to do with that, though.
hateful eight is exhausting. it was tense and beautifully shot, and I enjoyed watching in 70mm, but I don't particularly want to watch it again.
but it doesn't have much in the way of principles or morality other than that.
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Ozu - at least, the 20 or so I can get ahold of.
Tarkovsky
Paul Thomas Anderson
Kelly Reichardt
Probably some others. But there are so many who are just one dud away from perfect.
I like both Kill Bill's (second more than first), and think Pulp Fiction holds up super well, but thought Django was problematic and Jamie Foxx was kinda wasted, and Hateful Eight was beautiful trash.
I don’t think I’m exaggerating to say that Tim Roth is one of my favorite actors.
here's kind of a crash course
For me: Rian Johnson and Satoshi Kon
I was going to say Wong Kar-wai but I haven't seen My Blueberry Nights and I don't particularly want to
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But, yeah, Hateful 8 is 100% a movie that I like and completely understand why people hate it.
Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction, though? . . .
he seems really be in his element when trying to present his vision of the past
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Blood Simple actually got better.