I'm pretty sure he's stoned all the time. Cheadle definitely has that "they stuck me with the stoned guy" look
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There’s also Holland live streaming opening a package that had a prototype Infinity War poster and a letter from Marvel and on the back in BIG BOLD LETTERS was CONFIDENTIAL DO NOT SHARE that was pointed at his camera while he read the other side of the paper.
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I'd be scared too, I bet Cheadle is thinking about those robot dogs that Disney has that climb in your window while you're asleep and bite you with hypodermic needle teeth
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I really liked Ruffalo in Avengers and Age of Ultron, but yeah. I've definitely noticed a shift in his performance, starting with Ragnarok and continuing through Infinity War, where he's doing less "Bruce Banner as he appeared in the previous movies," and more "nervous Mark Ruffalo on a press tour."
Not that I thought he was bad in the later movies. Just shift in performance or characterization that I think is pretty noticeable.
Banner remembered a lot about Thanos despite being the Hulk at the time. Usually he doesn't remember much from his time as the Hulk. Plot hole, side effect of the Hulk retreating, or did Thanos just make that strong of a impact that it bled into Banner's mind?
I really liked Ruffalo in Avengers and Age of Ultron, but yeah. I've definitely noticed a shift in his performance, starting with Ragnarok and continuing through Infinity War, where he's doing less "Bruce Banner as he appeared in the previous movies," and more "nervous Mark Ruffalo on a press tour."
Y'know, I think something may have happened to Banner between Ultron and Ragnarok. Literally all of the time he's been Banner for the last 2+ years has been what we saw on screen during Ragnarok and now Infinity War. The rest of the time, Hulk was in the driver's seat and Banner was in the trunk.
And I think it was more than two years, because the difference of less than a minute from Loki falling to Sakar to Thor arriving translated to two weeks of time for Loki to climb the social ladder. I think two years is the bare minimum and it was more likely even longer than that. Banner has been locked inside of his own body for years and I don't think it's strange to think that, a few days after finally getting out, he's not feeling like himself. Not to mention during this time he's jumping from one apocalypse to another, dude's probably a little stressed.
Banner remembered a lot about Thanos despite being the Hulk at the time. Usually he doesn't remember much from his time as the Hulk. Plot hole, side effect of the Hulk retreating, or did Thanos just make that strong of a impact that it bled into Banner's mind?
They way they're talking back and forth, if
Hulk really has retreated in fear of Thanos, when Strange and Wong found Banner he was still greenish and shrinking. Hulk may have been freaking out and 'talking' to him about what was going on as they 'passed by' each other during the switch back.
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Banner remembered a lot about Thanos despite being the Hulk at the time. Usually he doesn't remember much from his time as the Hulk. Plot hole, side effect of the Hulk retreating, or did Thanos just make that strong of a impact that it bled into Banner's mind?
possibly Banner is more aware of what happened this time than the time he was "locked in the trunk". Maybe as a result of intentionally Hulking out back on the Bifrosf.
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i think bruce's manic space-case weirdness is pretty believable characterization considering what happened to him
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Yeah it feels like a long term hangover from being the Hulk for years.
i think bruce's manic space-case weirdness is pretty believable characterization considering what happened to him
I feel like the whole core crew has been kind of cracking under the pressure for the last few films.
Thor is grieving and on the edge, Banner is overwhelmed with his schizoid life and the sheer weirdness of his experiences, Stark is still struggling with PTSD and coping with his dread, etc. Cap is one of the few who hasn't cracked and that's probably because he's a war veteran from a WW2 that involved insane super-Nazis with magic laser guns.
As much as I find the Marvel films silly as hell, I do like that they're showing how being on a team of superheroes would be brain-fryingly stressful
There’s also Holland live streaming opening a package that had a prototype Infinity War poster and a letter from Marvel and on the back in BIG BOLD LETTERS was CONFIDENTIAL DO NOT SHARE that was pointed at his camera while he read the other side of the paper.
i think bruce's manic space-case weirdness is pretty believable characterization considering what happened to him
I feel like the whole core crew has been kind of cracking under the pressure for the last few films.
Thor is grieving and on the edge, Banner is overwhelmed with his schizoid life and the sheer weirdness of his experiences, Stark is still struggling with PTSD and coping with his dread, etc. Cap is one of the few who hasn't cracked and that's probably because he's a war veteran from a WW2 that involved insane super-Nazis with magic laser guns.
As much as I find the Marvel films silly as hell, I do like that they're showing how being on a team of superheroes would be brain-fryingly stressful
Cap is absolutely cracking along with everyone else. That's part of what Civil War is about
Banner remembered a lot about Thanos despite being the Hulk at the time. Usually he doesn't remember much from his time as the Hulk. Plot hole, side effect of the Hulk retreating, or did Thanos just make that strong of a impact that it bled into Banner's mind?
possibly Banner is more aware of what happened this time than the time he was "locked in the trunk". Maybe as a result of intentionally Hulking out back on the Bifrosf.
i imagine that the Hulk is usually aware of what's going on around him to an extent.
Otherwise how would he know if there's a threat he needs to hulk at? The balance of time had just previously been strongly in Banner's favor so he never needed to figure how perceive/remember much of anything.
That or they react strongly to each other's fear/anger and if Hulk ever feared anything enough for banner to notice, it would be Thanos.
Really got on my fucking nerves this film, especially how he was all 'oh no we can't sacrifice anyone, even if it means saving tons of other people!' even after Vision fucking destroyed his position by pointing out 'dude, you mean like exactly what you fucking did by intentionally crashing the plane you were on, and resigning yourself to death?
Like, I get it, Captain America is Captain America precisely because he displayed amazing self-sacrifice when other people around him wouldn't, so for him to shun the idea when it's someone elses turn is hypocritical and stupid. Of all the Avengers, he's probably the one most out of his depth, because he refuses to admit that there might not be some things you can gut it out
it would have made more sense if he just said that they should wait and see if it was necessary first and made killing a valuable hero a plan B instead of making a possibly unneeded sacrifice.
Really got on my fucking nerves this film, especially how he was all 'oh no we can't sacrifice anyone, even if it means saving tons of other people!' even after Vision fucking destroyed his position by pointing out 'dude, you mean like exactly what you fucking did by intentionally crashing the plane you were on, and resigning yourself to death?
Like, I get it, Captain America is Captain America precisely because he displayed amazing self-sacrifice when other people around him wouldn't, so for him to shun the idea when it's someone elses turn is hypocritical and stupid. Of all the Avengers, he's probably the one most out of his depth, because he refuses to admit that there might not be some things you can gut it out
Cap's Decision:
I can see the difference between choosing to kill yourself to save countless others, or even one other, and killing someone else to save others.
Only Wanda can destroy the Stone, killing Vision in the process. They don't understand just what Thanos wants to do, how he'll do it, or anything like that, but they can't bring themselves to force Wanda to murder.
Apparently black people don't count in the grand calculus of which lives matter. They're just a bunch of savages with spears who go charging in to stab people at the first sign of difficulties. Yeah, the whole way the Wakanda bit was handled and the reasoning around why they had to sacrifice so many people for Vision were not very well done and came off as rather in poor taste. If there was some sort of hope that Vision would be key to defeating Thanos, after the Mind Gem gets removed then I could see Captain America and the heroes deciding that the big defensive play was the right call. The way the battle was presented though would have to change to not come off as something with lots of echos of nasty stereotypes.
dr strange never cut the arm off or anything else because it wasn't part of his plan, the one out of 14 million way to win
A great screenwriting trick, that
while there were 14 million possible scripts for infinity war, the one that made it screen was in fact the only one that would have successfully resulted in the movie being made. its shortcomings were part and parcel with the film's existence, I'm afraid
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There’s also Holland live streaming opening a package that had a prototype Infinity War poster and a letter from Marvel and on the back in BIG BOLD LETTERS was CONFIDENTIAL DO NOT SHARE that was pointed at his camera while he read the other side of the paper.
That was a bit.
Ah, it was pretty good then.
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Really got on my fucking nerves this film, especially how he was all 'oh no we can't sacrifice anyone, even if it means saving tons of other people!' even after Vision fucking destroyed his position by pointing out 'dude, you mean like exactly what you fucking did by intentionally crashing the plane you were on, and resigning yourself to death?
Like, I get it, Captain America is Captain America precisely because he displayed amazing self-sacrifice when other people around him wouldn't, so for him to shun the idea when it's someone elses turn is hypocritical and stupid. Of all the Avengers, he's probably the one most out of his depth, because he refuses to admit that there might not be some things you can gut it out
Sacrificing yourself and sacrificing someone else by killing them are two very different things. I think the suggestion that it’s what the heroes should have done is pretty gross.
That said, it wasn’t Cap’s call to make and it wouldn’t have accomplished anything anyway.
What's the opposite of dramatic irony, where the tragedy of an event is diminished because of audience knowledge that it won't stick?
Also this film treats Gamora and the Wakandans very poorly.
That's still dramatic irony. It refers to the audience knowing things the characters do not, and seeing the characters making uninformed decisions.
Like when someone in a Star Wars prequel novel is relieved because he's able to get news about a terrible war-machine delivered to Ambassador Palpatine.
I was thinking along the lines of bathos, but sure.
I found the time spent lingering on the great dusting to be fairly mawkish and daft. Regardless, if the gravity of the scene is undercut by dramatic irony that they'll all be fine then that's hardly a mark against (some of) the criticism of the film.
I was referring to the third act, mostly, with my dramatic irony comment.
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Honestly the ending being what it is doesn't bug me all that much in a vacuum, if you have something like the Infinity Gauntlet in your story it's pretty inevitable that you do something like this
It's the execution and the path to it that leave me cold on the whole thing
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Cheadle looks genuinely annoyed with him.
Fixed that for you.
He live streamed the first 20 minutes of Ragnarok from his pocket because he forgot to shut off his Periscope from the red carpet
That is amazing.
Eventually a group of very panicked Disney reps ran over and let him know
How is he not just under house arrest for the press tour now? Incredible
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That would explain his last couple performances.
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Not that I thought he was bad in the later movies. Just shift in performance or characterization that I think is pretty noticeable.
I watched the original Hulk before Infinity War and it was pretty cool to see the arc go from
Also the like...3 days Bruce Banner has been back in control since mid-Ragnarok have just been two back-to-back universal threats.
Y'know, I think something may have happened to Banner between Ultron and Ragnarok. Literally all of the time he's been Banner for the last 2+ years has been what we saw on screen during Ragnarok and now Infinity War. The rest of the time, Hulk was in the driver's seat and Banner was in the trunk.
And I think it was more than two years, because the difference of less than a minute from Loki falling to Sakar to Thor arriving translated to two weeks of time for Loki to climb the social ladder. I think two years is the bare minimum and it was more likely even longer than that. Banner has been locked inside of his own body for years and I don't think it's strange to think that, a few days after finally getting out, he's not feeling like himself. Not to mention during this time he's jumping from one apocalypse to another, dude's probably a little stressed.
They way they're talking back and forth, if
I feel like the whole core crew has been kind of cracking under the pressure for the last few films.
As much as I find the Marvel films silly as hell, I do like that they're showing how being on a team of superheroes would be brain-fryingly stressful
That was a bit.
Otherwise how would he know if there's a threat he needs to hulk at? The balance of time had just previously been strongly in Banner's favor so he never needed to figure how perceive/remember much of anything.
That or they react strongly to each other's fear/anger and if Hulk ever feared anything enough for banner to notice, it would be Thanos.
Like, I get it, Captain America is Captain America precisely because he displayed amazing self-sacrifice when other people around him wouldn't, so for him to shun the idea when it's someone elses turn is hypocritical and stupid. Of all the Avengers, he's probably the one most out of his depth, because he refuses to admit that there might not be some things you can gut it out
Right now he's suffering a bit from only having relatively small roles and getting bounced between writers and directors
Cap's Decision:
Only Wanda can destroy the Stone, killing Vision in the process. They don't understand just what Thanos wants to do, how he'll do it, or anything like that, but they can't bring themselves to force Wanda to murder.
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Ah, it was pretty good then.
That said, it wasn’t Cap’s call to make and it wouldn’t have accomplished anything anyway.
Also this film treats Gamora and the Wakandans very poorly.
That's still dramatic irony. It refers to the audience knowing things the characters do not, and seeing the characters making uninformed decisions.
Like when someone in a Star Wars prequel novel is relieved because he's able to get news about a terrible war-machine delivered to Ambassador Palpatine.
It's the execution and the path to it that leave me cold on the whole thing