I'd guarantee it wasn't constructed with an intent to belittle his appearance, this is not an anti-men crusade let's not get dramatic about it. The optics were poor and people took it in (legitimate) ways that she probably wasn't aiming for
I don't think it's anti-men at all. It would be just as shitty if it was the reverse.
Yeah, I can understand the disappointment even if I didn't even read that much into the tweet. But I agree, even if you (or Abby in this case) didn't intend to offend, some people might interpret things differently. The least she anyone could do is at least attempt to understand why some people are upset.
I'd guarantee it wasn't constructed with an intent to belittle his appearance, this is not an anti-men crusade let's not get dramatic about it. The optics were poor and people took it in (legitimate) ways that she probably wasn't aiming for
Intent is not the end-all and be-all, you can hurt people without intent just as easily as you can on purpose.
Yes, and then how you respond to the comments that what your said was shitty is very important. Unfortunately Abby choose to double-down.
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The Beastcast is most of the reason I keep my subscription. The Bombcast has been rough for a while and without Jeff it was really rough sometimes. But I did appreciate a lot of the rotating guests.
Now that Jeff is back I more or less know what I’m getting on Tuesday. Also I was really excited to hear how he talked about Control. I’m in no hurry to play that game but I don’t think I’ve heard Jeff that effusive about any game this year.
Control is a very hard game to Google, but also just reminds me of that Camila Cabello bop, "She Loves Control", which is appropriate for the critical response that game is receiving.
As for its GOTY potential, sometimes Jeff gushes about a game and it's Titanfall 2 and he fights and claws for it on the main list, and sometimes Jeff gushes about a game and it's Horizon Zero Dawn and even he doesn't care about it by the time the GOTY talks happen
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I'm itching to play through Control but I'm partway through Quantum Break right now, which has a stranglehold on my hard disk space. (It's also what's pushed me towards installing Gears 5 on my PC this time around)
I'd guarantee it wasn't constructed with an intent to belittle his appearance, this is not an anti-men crusade let's not get dramatic about it. The optics were poor and people took it in (legitimate) ways that she probably wasn't aiming for
Intent is not the end-all and be-all, you can hurt people without intent just as easily as you can on purpose.
Which is why I explicitly said that people's grievances were legitimate. I'm not disagreeing with it being hurtful, I'm disagreeing with it being some kind of anti-men agenda like people perceive from feminists like Abby
The tweet is fine, funny even. He's a goofy looking dude married to freaking cate blanchette, everybody knows he's goofy looking, nobody is actually bothered by this. That tweet is super on brand for Abby, it's pro women, anti man in a playful way.
I'd guarantee it wasn't constructed with an intent to belittle his appearance, this is not an anti-men crusade let's not get dramatic about it. The optics were poor and people took it in (legitimate) ways that she probably wasn't aiming for
These are the only 3 times "anti-men/man" were used on the previous page. People weren't "disagreeing with it being some kind of anti-men agenda like people perceive from feminists like Abby", they universally didn't like it for the body/appearance shaming.
You put up a straw man. No one was getting dramatic about the anti-men angle.
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Okay.
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The tweets not great but Abby is what 22 or something? Not to be ageist but being a public person that young probably isn’t great considering the amount of foot in mouth you do. I’ll let a lot slide for that reason alone.
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Oh, well 26 is the new 22 like the saying goes.
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Some of my favorite internet peeps are about my age or a few years younger and every time I watch them I have to suppress mild self-loathing that I never had the drive to push myself to work as hard as they do
How old is Ben roughly, out of curiosity?
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Some of my favorite internet peeps are about my age or a few years younger and every time I watch them I have to suppress mild self-loathing that I never had the drive to push myself to work as hard as they do
Some of my favorite internet peeps are about my age or a few years younger and every time I watch them I have to suppress mild self-loathing that I never had the drive to push myself to work as hard as they do
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Funny thing is that Dan's presence in Vinnystainia is mostly responsible for propelling the playthrough forward and maintaining momentum whenever they start to meander, counter to nearly every other recent East feature to date
Granted basically anyone who had played the game as much as he did could do the same, but it is still amusing that as the only one of the group who 100%ed Bloodstained he is basically the authority on where they should be going and what they should be doing (despite probably still being incorrect about things here and there)
"Would you rather pee a marble or poop a softball" is really a soul-draining moment, though
I am okay with his questions and stuff, I really hate it when he's in frustration mode, another example i can think of is how he basically ruined the Yakuza 0 endurance run with his tantrums
Funny thing is that Dan's presence in Vinnystainia is mostly responsible for propelling the playthrough forward and maintaining momentum whenever they start to meander, counter to nearly every other recent East feature to date
Granted basically anyone who had played the game as much as he did could do the same, but it is still amusing that as the only one of the group who 100%ed Bloodstained he is basically the authority on where they should be going and what they should be doing (despite probably still being incorrect about things here and there)
"Would you rather pee a marble or poop a softball" is really a soul-draining moment, though
poop a softball. it's not even close
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Some of my favorite internet peeps are about my age or a few years younger and every time I watch them I have to suppress mild self-loathing that I never had the drive to push myself to work as hard as they do
a) it's not too late to motivate yourself to get to somewhere you want to be.
b) some of it is also just dumbass luck and that's out of your control.
Funny thing is that Dan's presence in Vinnystainia is mostly responsible for propelling the playthrough forward and maintaining momentum whenever they start to meander, counter to nearly every other recent East feature to date
Granted basically anyone who had played the game as much as he did could do the same, but it is still amusing that as the only one of the group who 100%ed Bloodstained he is basically the authority on where they should be going and what they should be doing (despite probably still being incorrect about things here and there)
"Would you rather pee a marble or poop a softball" is really a soul-draining moment, though
Some of my favorite internet peeps are about my age or a few years younger and every time I watch them I have to suppress mild self-loathing that I never had the drive to push myself to work as hard as they do
a) it's not too late to motivate yourself to get to somewhere you want to be.
b) some of it is also just dumbass luck and that's out of your control.
almost all of it is dumbass survivor bias luck.
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Funny thing is that Dan's presence in Vinnystainia is mostly responsible for propelling the playthrough forward and maintaining momentum whenever they start to meander, counter to nearly every other recent East feature to date
Granted basically anyone who had played the game as much as he did could do the same, but it is still amusing that as the only one of the group who 100%ed Bloodstained he is basically the authority on where they should be going and what they should be doing (despite probably still being incorrect about things here and there)
"Would you rather pee a marble or poop a softball" is really a soul-draining moment, though
poop a softball. it's not even close
You'd be surprised what you can fit up a butt.
You are assuming a whoooole lot about what I’ve seen out here on the internet.
I tried to watch the astral chain quicklook and it sure is obnoxious to have Dan just be rapidly button pressing through the dialogue while just complaining about it instead of explaining like "oh this isn't important" or something. It's a quest he hasn't done and he just dismisses it immediately without letting it play out for the viewer.
The dreamcast anniversary stream was cool, I never got to see a lot of those games and they look neat.
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Some of my favorite internet peeps are about my age or a few years younger and every time I watch them I have to suppress mild self-loathing that I never had the drive to push myself to work as hard as they do
a) it's not too late to motivate yourself to get to somewhere you want to be.
b) some of it is also just dumbass luck and that's out of your control.
almost all of it is dumbass survivor bias luck.
Yes but you can maximize your opportunities for a lucky break, such as with networking. Everyone hates doing it but I've had so many job interviews that basically come from one of my connections introducing me to someone or passing my resume along. I'm pretty sure my next job will come from someone I know, or someone I know who knows someone.
But I mean, I completely agree the odds are stacked against most of us. But there's only so much an individual can do about it. Edit: but that doesn't mean there's nothing you can do about it.
Funny thing is that Dan's presence in Vinnystainia is mostly responsible for propelling the playthrough forward and maintaining momentum whenever they start to meander, counter to nearly every other recent East feature to date
Granted basically anyone who had played the game as much as he did could do the same, but it is still amusing that as the only one of the group who 100%ed Bloodstained he is basically the authority on where they should be going and what they should be doing (despite probably still being incorrect about things here and there)
"Would you rather pee a marble or poop a softball" is really a soul-draining moment, though
poop a softball. it's not even close
You'd be surprised what you can fit up a butt.
Also physiologically the colon isn't typically as innervated as the urinary tract, so a softball is going to give someone a bad time at the final two sphincters whereas that marble is going to hurt for the entire journey
From the most recent Beastcast, Dan mentions Astral Chain locking him into a 10 minute dog related cutscene right as the Quick Look started that he had to mash through for the sake of the home audience. Is this the stuff people were mad Dan was skipping through?
edit: I know almost nothing about this game other than it's on the Switch and it's a Platinum joint. But it also kinda sounds like Remember Me with the combos you can change?
From the most recent Beastcast, Dan mentions Astral Chain locking him into a 10 minute dog related cutscene right as the Quick Look started that he had to mash through for the sake of the home audience. Is this the stuff stuff people were mad Dan was skipping through?
It's a side quest, not really a cutscene. He talked to a person and they roped him into a sidequest, then dan skipped all the dialogue and complained it was making him do the side quest.
It's basically the very start of the astral chain quicklook if you want to see.
From the most recent Beastcast, Dan mentions Astral Chain locking him into a 10 minute dog related cutscene right as the Quick Look started that he had to mash through for the sake of the home audience. Is this the stuff stuff people were mad Dan was skipping through?
Clicking through dialogue when it seems to be an integral component of the game to get to what Dan considers to be the good stuff is an editorial decision I personally have issues with.
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Also, if they don't think it would be fun for the viewers then cut that bit out, or play past it and restart the QL there. Personally I don't need an excuse to listen to Vinny and Dan waffle, but I also wouldn't consider it hot content that needs to be included either.
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I don't think it's anti-men at all. It would be just as shitty if it was the reverse.
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Yes, and then how you respond to the comments that what your said was shitty is very important. Unfortunately Abby choose to double-down.
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Now that Jeff is back I more or less know what I’m getting on Tuesday. Also I was really excited to hear how he talked about Control. I’m in no hurry to play that game but I don’t think I’ve heard Jeff that effusive about any game this year.
As for its GOTY potential, sometimes Jeff gushes about a game and it's Titanfall 2 and he fights and claws for it on the main list, and sometimes Jeff gushes about a game and it's Horizon Zero Dawn and even he doesn't care about it by the time the GOTY talks happen
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Which is why I explicitly said that people's grievances were legitimate. I'm not disagreeing with it being hurtful, I'm disagreeing with it being some kind of anti-men agenda like people perceive from feminists like Abby
Okay.
These are the only 3 times "anti-men/man" were used on the previous page. People weren't "disagreeing with it being some kind of anti-men agenda like people perceive from feminists like Abby", they universally didn't like it for the body/appearance shaming.
You put up a straw man. No one was getting dramatic about the anti-men angle.
How old is Ben roughly, out of curiosity?
He’s probably around 22 I’d say
Probably that or 26.
Although Alex could have climbed out while Vinny held onto his head.
He's insufferable in that Astral Chain quicklook
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Granted basically anyone who had played the game as much as he did could do the same, but it is still amusing that as the only one of the group who 100%ed Bloodstained he is basically the authority on where they should be going and what they should be doing (despite probably still being incorrect about things here and there)
I guess he works much better as a support
This will be here until I receive an apology or Weedlordvegeta get any consequences for being a bully
a) it's not too late to motivate yourself to get to somewhere you want to be.
b) some of it is also just dumbass luck and that's out of your control.
almost all of it is dumbass survivor bias luck.
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The dreamcast anniversary stream was cool, I never got to see a lot of those games and they look neat.
Yes but you can maximize your opportunities for a lucky break, such as with networking. Everyone hates doing it but I've had so many job interviews that basically come from one of my connections introducing me to someone or passing my resume along. I'm pretty sure my next job will come from someone I know, or someone I know who knows someone.
But I mean, I completely agree the odds are stacked against most of us. But there's only so much an individual can do about it. Edit: but that doesn't mean there's nothing you can do about it.
edit: I know almost nothing about this game other than it's on the Switch and it's a Platinum joint. But it also kinda sounds like Remember Me with the combos you can change?
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It's a side quest, not really a cutscene. He talked to a person and they roped him into a sidequest, then dan skipped all the dialogue and complained it was making him do the side quest.
It's basically the very start of the astral chain quicklook if you want to see.
Clicking through dialogue when it seems to be an integral component of the game to get to what Dan considers to be the good stuff is an editorial decision I personally have issues with.
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