We talked about healthcare and I went over the benefits of TRICARE with numbers prepped. ($30 premium, copays around $20-$50, catastrophic capped at $4k).
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The caucus process here has traditionally been awful so maybe a good thing.
Caucuses are an anti-democratic system that punishes people who do not have the ability to attend, and which violate the principle of the secret ballot.
*if you're from Washington, and a registered Democrat
which is fucked up, but w/e
What? You don't need to be registered to vote in that poll. That barely a thing here anyway since we have the stupid jungle primaries.
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fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
The caucuses are also a huge waste of resources since the state is required to send out primary ballots anyway, we should just use them.
Not to mention those ballots eating up the votes of people who think they were the real thing.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
My only caucus experience was in 2004 when I showed up to a church in the U District and got yelled at by a bunch of senior citizens for two hours about Howard Dean (I was there to argue for John Edwards :rotate: )
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
For me I just don't have the time nor the want to go down to a community center and argue with people for like what 2+ hours? I'd rather just vote in the mail and be done with it.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
For me I just don't have the time nor the want to go down to a community center and argue with people for like what 2+ hours? I'd rather just vote in the mail and be done with it.
Yeah even assuming everyone had equal opportunity to show up, not everyone has an equal voice there even for something as simple as different personality types, let alone everything else.
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
The primary is not restricted to democrats and Republicans have not been shy about pushing democratic primaries as a way to work for their interests given that the republicans have long shots at winning general elections anyway.
The caucus came into being when the primaries were opened up.
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
Basically memories of a nonexistent past. Caucuses "feel" democratic because of how we talk up things like Athenian direct democracy, but as shown above, they're anything but.
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
The primary is not restricted to democrats and Republicans have not been shy about pushing democratic primaries as a way to work for their interests given that the republicans have long shots at winning general elections anyway.
The caucus came into being when the primaries were opened up.
Does that actually help the problem though? If anything, given the demographics, I'd almost expect Republicans to be more able to go to caucuses :P
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
The primary is not restricted to democrats and Republicans have not been shy about pushing democratic primaries as a way to work for their interests given that the republicans have long shots at winning general elections anyway.
The caucus came into being when the primaries were opened up.
Does that actually help the problem though? If anything, given the demographics, I'd almost expect Republicans to be more able to go to caucuses :P
Well they are party specific, but yes that is another part of it that they could be fucked with.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
The primary is not restricted to democrats and Republicans have not been shy about pushing democratic primaries as a way to work for their interests given that the republicans have long shots at winning general elections anyway.
The caucus came into being when the primaries were opened up.
Does that actually help the problem though? If anything, given the demographics, I'd almost expect Republicans to be more able to go to caucuses :P
You can exclude candidates and people from caucuses. You cannot exclude a republican for running for the democratic nomination in the democratic primary in Washington State
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
For me I just don't have the time nor the want to go down to a community center and argue with people for like what 2+ hours? I'd rather just vote in the mail and be done with it.
Also, and I see the irony of me saying this, but people who vote absentee literally have no ability to participate.
The time for communities to come together and discuss how they wish to be governed is town halls and debates.
So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
For me I just don't have the time nor the want to go down to a community center and argue with people for like what 2+ hours? I'd rather just vote in the mail and be done with it.
Also, and I see the irony of me saying this, but people who vote absentee literally have no ability to participate.
The time for communities to come together and discuss how they wish to be governed is town halls and debates.
All great points....
TAX DODGER!
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
The 2016 caucus was the most miserable experience I have ever had participating within the political system.
I was a delegate to my district caucus (or whichever the second round was) and I actually walked out without voting it was such a clusterfuck.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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The caucus I attended in 2008 was fucking messy as hell. It was a good thing I was an unemployed student, otherwise I wouldn't have had the five hours necessary to attend that shit.
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So like, caucuses seem dumb in almost every way. What's the argument for a caucus, out of curiosity?
some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
For me I just don't have the time nor the want to go down to a community center and argue with people for like what 2+ hours? I'd rather just vote in the mail and be done with it.
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But you can't have an edmonds kind of day in seatac!
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That's not weird that's literally white flight. Same thing happened in a lot of major cities.
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They try to act like downtown is a great place to live if your single, but I am not buying it.
It's a prime display area that everyone passes by on their way into the store, and who steals an office chair, anyway?
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We talked about healthcare and I went over the benefits of TRICARE with numbers prepped. ($30 premium, copays around $20-$50, catastrophic capped at $4k).
Caucuses are an anti-democratic system that punishes people who do not have the ability to attend, and which violate the principle of the secret ballot.
which is fucked up, but w/e
What? You don't need to be registered to vote in that poll. That barely a thing here anyway since we have the stupid jungle primaries.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Not to mention those ballots eating up the votes of people who think they were the real thing.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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Pretty much amplifies the voices of those who show up.
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some people see value in the idea of a community coming together to discuss how they wish to be governed
I think that's probably the most charitable argument
personally I think that they'd probably be fine if we could also guarantee that everyone had equal opportunity to show up, which we can't and aren't ever likely to
not to mention it kind of is contingent on a healthy existing discourse, which isn't going to happen as long as Fox News exists
For me I just don't have the time nor the want to go down to a community center and argue with people for like what 2+ hours? I'd rather just vote in the mail and be done with it.
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Yeah even assuming everyone had equal opportunity to show up, not everyone has an equal voice there even for something as simple as different personality types, let alone everything else.
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The primary is not restricted to democrats and Republicans have not been shy about pushing democratic primaries as a way to work for their interests given that the republicans have long shots at winning general elections anyway.
The caucus came into being when the primaries were opened up.
The primary is still probably better
Basically memories of a nonexistent past. Caucuses "feel" democratic because of how we talk up things like Athenian direct democracy, but as shown above, they're anything but.
Does that actually help the problem though? If anything, given the demographics, I'd almost expect Republicans to be more able to go to caucuses :P
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Well they are party specific, but yes that is another part of it that they could be fucked with.
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You can exclude candidates and people from caucuses. You cannot exclude a republican for running for the democratic nomination in the democratic primary in Washington State
Also, and I see the irony of me saying this, but people who vote absentee literally have no ability to participate.
The time for communities to come together and discuss how they wish to be governed is town halls and debates.
All great points....
TAX DODGER!
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March 26: caucus
May 24: primary
Reading the FAQ, moving to a primary election would also result in the primary occurring in March, which is good. By May, the primary is all but over.
Yeah I think they've already agreed to move the primary to march, but until we rid ourselves of the caucus its a nothing part of the actual primary.
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I was a delegate to my district caucus (or whichever the second round was) and I actually walked out without voting it was such a clusterfuck.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
You are lucky if you get out in under four hours.