If someone started BFA on release day and did all the quests and dungeons just once with no additional farming, is the progression set up to allow them to do all the content through 8.3 including LFR? Or is some level of repeatable farming required to meet LFR requirements?
Commodities (stackable items) will no longer be sold in individual stacks allowing you to select the number of items you want to buy, and the Auction House will automatically locate the lowest priced auctions to sell to you. You’ll be able to see the unit price and total price before you make your purchase. With the lowest-priced items always sorted to the top, you’ll never have to dig for the best deal again.
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It was about goddamn time, needing an incredibly onerous addon to be able to do simple shit was infuriating.
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If someone started BFA on release day and did all the quests and dungeons just once with no additional farming, is the progression set up to allow them to do all the content through 8.3 including LFR? Or is some level of repeatable farming required to meet LFR requirements?
I mean, you can basically skip LFR pretty much.
Especially with the way rewards come from the 1 weekly and 2 bi weekly world events, plus eventually solid performance in the horrific visions, you will be getting normal raid ilvl or better stuff fairly consistently. Also, unlike LFR, the drops are guaranteed.
As for just meeting the requirements, I don't think just going through the quests for the 8.3 content without doing any dungeons, world quests, and new events / visions would hit you to LFR. Closest thing to that was Benthic gear, which you could work up some manapearls and get a full set of LFR ready gear super quick. With a few weeks of minimal grinding you could even get all that same gear to LFR ilvl. Nothing like that is available in 8.3. But the stuff you get from the new content is better, just slightly slower.
I don't think any of the release day stuff would help with current content at all though, other than any progress toward flying.
why did they never introduce platinum as 100 (or even 10) gold = 1 plat?
Now I'm having Everquest flashbacks. Money actually had weight, and you could literally be unable to move if you were overweight. A big incentive to always carry the higher denominations.
If someone started BFA on release day and did all the quests and dungeons just once with no additional farming, is the progression set up to allow them to do all the content through 8.3 including LFR? Or is some level of repeatable farming required to meet LFR requirements?
I mean, you can basically skip LFR pretty much.
Especially with the way rewards come from the 1 weekly and 2 bi weekly world events, plus eventually solid performance in the horrific visions, you will be getting normal raid ilvl or better stuff fairly consistently. Also, unlike LFR, the drops are guaranteed.
As for just meeting the requirements, I don't think just going through the quests for the 8.3 content without doing any dungeons, world quests, and new events / visions would hit you to LFR. Closest thing to that was Benthic gear, which you could work up some manapearls and get a full set of LFR ready gear super quick. With a few weeks of minimal grinding you could even get all that same gear to LFR ilvl. Nothing like that is available in 8.3. But the stuff you get from the new content is better, just slightly slower.
I don't think any of the release day stuff would help with current content at all though, other than any progress toward flying.
LFR basically is for transmogs only so far in BFA. The ilevel of gear in it is lower than warfronts and and emmisary quests so generally if you just do the normal emmisary stuff and things like that your gear will be much better than what LFR gives. Basically do it for transmogs and thats about it.
why did they never introduce platinum as 100 (or even 10) gold = 1 plat?
Now I'm having Everquest flashbacks. Money actually had weight, and you could literally be unable to move if you were overweight. A big incentive to always carry the higher denominations.
HAHA I always had fun with beggers in everquest giving them like 20 plat all in copper. Its all yours if you can manage to still walk to the bank. Always hilarious then seeing them begging for strength buffs so they could get their haul to the bank.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
If someone started BFA on release day and did all the quests and dungeons just once with no additional farming, is the progression set up to allow them to do all the content through 8.3 including LFR? Or is some level of repeatable farming required to meet LFR requirements?
I mean, you can basically skip LFR pretty much.
Especially with the way rewards come from the 1 weekly and 2 bi weekly world events, plus eventually solid performance in the horrific visions, you will be getting normal raid ilvl or better stuff fairly consistently. Also, unlike LFR, the drops are guaranteed.
As for just meeting the requirements, I don't think just going through the quests for the 8.3 content without doing any dungeons, world quests, and new events / visions would hit you to LFR. Closest thing to that was Benthic gear, which you could work up some manapearls and get a full set of LFR ready gear super quick. With a few weeks of minimal grinding you could even get all that same gear to LFR ilvl. Nothing like that is available in 8.3. But the stuff you get from the new content is better, just slightly slower.
I don't think any of the release day stuff would help with current content at all though, other than any progress toward flying.
LFR basically is for transmogs only so far in BFA. The ilevel of gear in it is lower than warfronts and and emmisary quests so generally if you just do the normal emmisary stuff and things like that your gear will be much better than what LFR gives. Basically do it for transmogs and thats about it.
While this was already normally true, benthic just put the nail in the coffin for it even more. Equal ilvl to lfr with like a weeks of effort for 9 slots. 3 of which are azerite. You can get one of two trinkets on the ah for a decent price and for casters that’s often going to last you at least till heroic raid trinkets.
Which is why when korraks was up, the free 400 weapon kind of finished you off. At least in 8.3 lfr might be good for a weapon. But if you don’t mind at least a little pvp, you can get a weapon near normal raid ilvl on the first cp bar.
The whole point of LFR is to simply be able to experience the content with minimal commitment, right?
Basically yes although you could in 8.2 get the raid essence at least up to rank 2 in LFR reasonably but rank 3 requires so much and you get so little from LFR that its pretty pointless bothering. The lack of set pieces really killed any utility of LFR gearing wise this go round. Between benthic and emmisary and other stuff there just was not anything of good enough ilevel to bother with coming out of LFR. Before the set piece bonuses usually more than offset slightly lower ilevels and they had an interesting themed look. This go around so far most of the gear has looked boring and you can find the azerite stuff from other sources that has mostly the same options without that much issue. In 8.3 there is basically catchup gear that I believe is basically the same or close to the same ilevel as LFR and is account bound.
Back in MoP/WoD I was able to complete the entire Legendary cloak/ring obtaining and upgrading quest line just through LFR, and it felt reasonably rewarding for the time and effort involved. I slogged through 9 wings of Eternal Palace to find that the reward was one spec's Rank 1 sidegrade essence and decided that's enough LFR for me this tier!
Back in MoP/WoD I was able to complete the entire Legendary cloak/ring obtaining and upgrading quest line just through LFR, and it felt reasonably rewarding for the time and effort involved. I slogged through 9 wings of Eternal Palace to find that the reward was one spec's Rank 1 sidegrade essence and decided that's enough LFR for me this tier!
I originally did LFR thinking you could just make the rank 3 essence straight up if you had 36 reliqueries. Turns out it takes 21 weeks of full LFR clears to get the rank 3 essence. Whee...
The whole point of LFR is to simply be able to experience the content with minimal commitment, right?
Basically yes although you could in 8.2 get the raid essence at least up to rank 2 in LFR reasonably but rank 3 requires so much and you get so little from LFR that its pretty pointless bothering. The lack of set pieces really killed any utility of LFR gearing wise this go round. Between benthic and emmisary and other stuff there just was not anything of good enough ilevel to bother with coming out of LFR. Before the set piece bonuses usually more than offset slightly lower ilevels and they had an interesting themed look. This go around so far most of the gear has looked boring and you can find the azerite stuff from other sources that has mostly the same options without that much issue. In 8.3 there is basically catchup gear that I believe is basically the same or close to the same ilevel as LFR and is account bound.
I just wish the LFR would do the fight and not the easy one of it.
To show you fight and how it works but reduce it's damage so having 20 people do the 10 man content kind of a fight
Back in MoP/WoD I was able to complete the entire Legendary cloak/ring obtaining and upgrading quest line just through LFR, and it felt reasonably rewarding for the time and effort involved. I slogged through 9 wings of Eternal Palace to find that the reward was one spec's Rank 1 sidegrade essence and decided that's enough LFR for me this tier!
I originally did LFR thinking you could just make the rank 3 essence straight up if you had 36 reliqueries. Turns out it takes 21 weeks of full LFR clears to get the rank 3 essence. Whee...
I did it every week for 4 months and came short for the cloak. I got stuck in the pvp part for longer than I wanted
The ring on the other hand was like a rollercoaster of items one week nothing the next double most weeks 1 or 2 essence for it
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Back in MoP/WoD I was able to complete the entire Legendary cloak/ring obtaining and upgrading quest line just through LFR, and it felt reasonably rewarding for the time and effort involved. I slogged through 9 wings of Eternal Palace to find that the reward was one spec's Rank 1 sidegrade essence and decided that's enough LFR for me this tier!
I originally did LFR thinking you could just make the rank 3 essence straight up if you had 36 reliqueries. Turns out it takes 21 weeks of full LFR clears to get the rank 3 essence. Whee...
LFR definitely is way too far off the spectrum of rewards for the essence. I think doing Mythic I got rank 3 halfway through the first mythic week - so two heroic clears & half a mythic clear.
I don't think anyone would dispute that LFR should gain the essence slower than the higher difficulties, but literally ten times slower is too much of a gap.
Yeah, it's fucking absurd. Especially since LFR isn't even giving usable gear. I have a profession quest that requires 20 of a thing that drops off the final boss of an LFR wing, and I've given up at 10. I doubt the reward can be worth the pain.
Back in MoP/WoD I was able to complete the entire Legendary cloak/ring obtaining and upgrading quest line just through LFR, and it felt reasonably rewarding for the time and effort involved. I slogged through 9 wings of Eternal Palace to find that the reward was one spec's Rank 1 sidegrade essence and decided that's enough LFR for me this tier!
I originally did LFR thinking you could just make the rank 3 essence straight up if you had 36 reliqueries. Turns out it takes 21 weeks of full LFR clears to get the rank 3 essence. Whee...
LFR definitely is way too far off the spectrum of rewards for the essence. I think doing Mythic I got rank 3 halfway through the first mythic week - so two heroic clears & half a mythic clear.
I don't think anyone would dispute that LFR should gain the essence slower than the higher difficulties, but literally ten times slower is too much of a gap.
rank 1 and rank 2 were not that bad time investment wise but rank 3 is stupid. They should go in and halve or less the amount needed now that the new patch is out. Still they nerfed the shit out of that essence anyway so it probably does not matter.
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They didn’t need it that hard though. Still a huge burst damage option. Just not far and away the best thing for most specs anymore. Also the healing essence is kind of good at r3, especially for pvp.
The fact they didn’t reduce the requirements for those is kind of stupid. I hope they do sometime soon because multiple weeks of an old raid for those essences is horrible. Maybe they are waiting till after the new raid has fully opened.
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They're also nerfing Condensed Life Force, so it might not be BiS for literally every DPS spec in 8.3.
Yeah, it's fucking absurd. Especially since LFR isn't even giving usable gear. I have a profession quest that requires 20 of a thing that drops off the final boss of an LFR wing, and I've given up at 10. I doubt the reward can be worth the pain.
It gets better, once you finish that one you get another quest to collect 200 of them. Lets you craft gear at mythic level I think, after a little under a year of full clears if you only gather them in LFR.
I'm gonna be making a Vulpera shaman tonight. Looking for opinions on good flying mounts that fit thematically with Vulpera.
There's a vulture mount that you can get at exalted with one of the 8.3 reps. There's another that's a rare drop off a rare, but I think the former's easier to get.
Yeah, it's fucking absurd. Especially since LFR isn't even giving usable gear. I have a profession quest that requires 20 of a thing that drops off the final boss of an LFR wing, and I've given up at 10. I doubt the reward can be worth the pain.
It gets better, once you finish that one you get another quest to collect 200 of them. Lets you craft gear at mythic level I think, after a little under a year of full clears if you only gather them in LFR.
Fuck BFA!
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The Mythic level crafted gear is very very specifically meant to be something you get as a reward for raiding on Heroic. The Heroic level crafted gear is readily available even to folks doing LFR only, it only needs 20 macguffins.
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Of the myriad things to hate about BfA, that's one of the few that I think makes some amount of sense.
The Mythic level crafted gear is very very specifically meant to be something you get as a reward for raiding on Heroic. The Heroic level crafted gear is readily available even to folks doing LFR only, it only needs 20 macguffins.
What materials does the gear take?
"7 weeks of full LFR clears" isn't really what I would classify as "readily available".
The Mythic level crafted gear is very very specifically meant to be something you get as a reward for raiding on Heroic. The Heroic level crafted gear is readily available even to folks doing LFR only, it only needs 20 macguffins.
What materials does the gear take?
"7 weeks of full LFR clears" isn't really what I would classify as "readily available".
You would only do it in LFR if all you do is LFR anyway. Going in any other difficulty completes it faster.
Unless you expect to do each wing once in LFR and be "fully geared" in which case prepare for perpetual disappointment.
I did the whole Uldum bit last night, got the quest to go to Pandaria, but did not go there. Instead, I did the quest to unlock Vulpera. Then I made my brand new Vulpera shaman and used my free 120 boost from the Shadowlands preorder to make him 120.
His name is Scottenbury and he's a proper British gentleman fox man.
Had to go through a bit of old content to unlock the things I needed unlocked. Had to do the Nazjatar intro quest chain. Had to do the Essence intro quest chain. Had to unlock the chamber of heart. But I think he's up and running now. Should be able to start making progress on him tonight after work.
I did the whole Uldum bit last night, got the quest to go to Pandaria, but did not go there. Instead, I did the quest to unlock Vulpera. Then I made my brand new Vulpera shaman and used my free 120 boost from the Shadowlands preorder to make him 120.
His name is Scottenbury and he's a proper British gentleman fox man.
Had to go through a bit of old content to unlock the things I needed unlocked. Had to do the Nazjatar intro quest chain. Had to do the Essence intro quest chain. Had to unlock the chamber of heart. But I think he's up and running now. Should be able to start making progress on him tonight after work.
went to uldum last night, how do you get the quest to go to pandaland? do you have to finish the assault? How do you even do that? I did a couple of the quests in the hub but not all of them yet. (i should probably go to wowhead or something huh?)
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It was about goddamn time, needing an incredibly onerous addon to be able to do simple shit was infuriating.
I mean, you can basically skip LFR pretty much.
Especially with the way rewards come from the 1 weekly and 2 bi weekly world events, plus eventually solid performance in the horrific visions, you will be getting normal raid ilvl or better stuff fairly consistently. Also, unlike LFR, the drops are guaranteed.
As for just meeting the requirements, I don't think just going through the quests for the 8.3 content without doing any dungeons, world quests, and new events / visions would hit you to LFR. Closest thing to that was Benthic gear, which you could work up some manapearls and get a full set of LFR ready gear super quick. With a few weeks of minimal grinding you could even get all that same gear to LFR ilvl. Nothing like that is available in 8.3. But the stuff you get from the new content is better, just slightly slower.
I don't think any of the release day stuff would help with current content at all though, other than any progress toward flying.
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Now I'm having Everquest flashbacks. Money actually had weight, and you could literally be unable to move if you were overweight. A big incentive to always carry the higher denominations.
LFR basically is for transmogs only so far in BFA. The ilevel of gear in it is lower than warfronts and and emmisary quests so generally if you just do the normal emmisary stuff and things like that your gear will be much better than what LFR gives. Basically do it for transmogs and thats about it.
HAHA I always had fun with beggers in everquest giving them like 20 plat all in copper. Its all yours if you can manage to still walk to the bank. Always hilarious then seeing them begging for strength buffs so they could get their haul to the bank.
While this was already normally true, benthic just put the nail in the coffin for it even more. Equal ilvl to lfr with like a weeks of effort for 9 slots. 3 of which are azerite. You can get one of two trinkets on the ah for a decent price and for casters that’s often going to last you at least till heroic raid trinkets.
Which is why when korraks was up, the free 400 weapon kind of finished you off. At least in 8.3 lfr might be good for a weapon. But if you don’t mind at least a little pvp, you can get a weapon near normal raid ilvl on the first cp bar.
Basically yes although you could in 8.2 get the raid essence at least up to rank 2 in LFR reasonably but rank 3 requires so much and you get so little from LFR that its pretty pointless bothering. The lack of set pieces really killed any utility of LFR gearing wise this go round. Between benthic and emmisary and other stuff there just was not anything of good enough ilevel to bother with coming out of LFR. Before the set piece bonuses usually more than offset slightly lower ilevels and they had an interesting themed look. This go around so far most of the gear has looked boring and you can find the azerite stuff from other sources that has mostly the same options without that much issue. In 8.3 there is basically catchup gear that I believe is basically the same or close to the same ilevel as LFR and is account bound.
I originally did LFR thinking you could just make the rank 3 essence straight up if you had 36 reliqueries. Turns out it takes 21 weeks of full LFR clears to get the rank 3 essence. Whee...
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I just wish the LFR would do the fight and not the easy one of it.
To show you fight and how it works but reduce it's damage so having 20 people do the 10 man content kind of a fight
I did it every week for 4 months and came short for the cloak. I got stuck in the pvp part for longer than I wanted
The ring on the other hand was like a rollercoaster of items one week nothing the next double most weeks 1 or 2 essence for it
LFR definitely is way too far off the spectrum of rewards for the essence. I think doing Mythic I got rank 3 halfway through the first mythic week - so two heroic clears & half a mythic clear.
I don't think anyone would dispute that LFR should gain the essence slower than the higher difficulties, but literally ten times slower is too much of a gap.
rank 1 and rank 2 were not that bad time investment wise but rank 3 is stupid. They should go in and halve or less the amount needed now that the new patch is out. Still they nerfed the shit out of that essence anyway so it probably does not matter.
The fact they didn’t reduce the requirements for those is kind of stupid. I hope they do sometime soon because multiple weeks of an old raid for those essences is horrible. Maybe they are waiting till after the new raid has fully opened.
There's a vulture mount that you can get at exalted with one of the 8.3 reps. There's another that's a rare drop off a rare, but I think the former's easier to get.
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Well the flying fox store mount is pretty foxy appropriate.
(Goddamn Vulpera are going to tank the Alliance pop harder than Arcane Torrent).
There a bunch of things I hate about BFA far to many to list
"7 weeks of full LFR clears" isn't really what I would classify as "readily available".
You would only do it in LFR if all you do is LFR anyway. Going in any other difficulty completes it faster.
Unless you expect to do each wing once in LFR and be "fully geared" in which case prepare for perpetual disappointment.
LFR players get "fully geared" from Emissaries and Nazjatar, by the way.
How am I supposed to start getting this AP if I can’t send out missions from work
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
while the rest of the weapons are just like, strewn about on the floor
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
champion! fetch me hammer!
my immediate thought;
Valyrra just gets us up to speed and we see the cinematic.
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His name is Scottenbury and he's a proper British gentleman fox man.
Had to go through a bit of old content to unlock the things I needed unlocked. Had to do the Nazjatar intro quest chain. Had to do the Essence intro quest chain. Had to unlock the chamber of heart. But I think he's up and running now. Should be able to start making progress on him tonight after work.
went to uldum last night, how do you get the quest to go to pandaland? do you have to finish the assault? How do you even do that? I did a couple of the quests in the hub but not all of them yet. (i should probably go to wowhead or something huh?)
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