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I wonder if we'll see any Warcry during this week, it has been a little while since there was anything on that front, I assumed the DoK warband was heralding the start of a 'season 2' with a focus on order rather than chaos, but so far they seem like a one-off.
That's really teasing more interesting monsters. Coatls are cool. And dragons are just an all-time classic.
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Kragnos lore mentions the Seraphon/Slaan messing with him, could be teasing ancient Seraphon creatures we haven't seen yet. Seraphon could use some feathered dinos.
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The head looks very similar to the Stardrake to me, along with the twin tails I assumed that was what was being references.
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Kragnos lore mentions the Seraphon/Slaan messing with him, could be teasing ancient Seraphon creatures we haven't seen yet. Seraphon could use some feathered dinos.
He literally means Lord Kroak and his other Slann buddies. You can see the silhouette of his death mask in that segment. Please remember that AoS is actually Warhammer Fantasy Battles 40,000, as in multiple tens of millennia after the destruction of the Old World so they have a lot of time to stuff random ancient battles into without overlapping too much.
Kragnos lore mentions the Seraphon/Slaan messing with him, could be teasing ancient Seraphon creatures we haven't seen yet. Seraphon could use some feathered dinos.
He literally means Lord Kroak and his other Slann buddies. You can see the silhouette of his death mask in that segment. Please remember that AoS is actually Warhammer Fantasy Battles 40,000, as in multiple tens of millennia after the destruction of the Old World so they have a lot of time to stuff random ancient battles into without overlapping too much.
As a side there is someone who posted a salty take on the Warhammer end times Khaine book sighting some of the glaring problems with it
As it is kind of a venn diagram from my brother's rants about his elves of old and what was said in the video about the book. I remember his rants about playing Warhammer online and seeing the dwarf quest giver and how he ranted for days the dwarf would have been drowned before he set one foot on Ulthuan because of the sea guard let alone the various other units patroling
I am rather curious when they reboot warhammer {as it is one of the three things they may talk about this Sat.} will they just leave it as it was before the end times?
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Honestly the end times stuff was so bad, it's no wonder they had a ton of bad blood going into Age of Sigmar. It made me so angry I never even looked at AoS because of it - only when I needed to learn how to play it because a customer wanted to buy AoS did I start getting into it.
Seriously, all you would have to do is write out the contrived "Chaos forces are getting their complete shit wrecked, but then THIS ONE THING HAPPENED AND SUDDENLY THEY WON!!!!111" bullshit out. Like Thanquol turning up in Nuln with one screaming bell and the defenders, who are ripping the entire Skaven army apart with cannons and handgunners just suddenly giving up for no reason at all. Or any of the other million incredibly contrived circumstances in which chaos forces prevail despite having absolutely no way of winning.
It's seriously some incredibly shitty writing.
Edit: At least the Skaven got to drop the moon on Lustria though. Possibly inspired by RL Salvatore dropping a moon on Chewbacca.
Khaine was the worst book in the End Times. Huge retcons for all the elves' history with a well, actually, Malekith was right and he isn't all that bad, and all the other phoenix kings were pretenders. Also really sloppily edited with a bunch of continuity errors to the earlier books as far as I remember.
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Khaine was the worst book in the End Times. Huge retcons for all the elves' history with a well, actually, Malekith was right and he isn't all that bad, and all the other phoenix kings were pretenders. Also really sloppily edited with a bunch of continuity errors to the earlier books as far as I remember.
Oh I'm not denying that at all, instead just accept that I'm trying not to think about that or I'll need to be in the angry dome for the rest of the evening.
One thing i kinda hate/love coming out of th End Times is what a huge fuckup Teclis is. Always setting his goals way to high, thinking he'S the best of the best, schemer extraordinaire and then ooops, that didn't work out.
We haven't seen much of Tyrion and Malerion yet, but I bet that Allarielle is the only one that didn't make a new race of "aelves" completely made up of assholes.
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I'm pretty sure that Teclis has done something awful and will have hugely unintended consequences. Allarielle seems convinced of that and I wonder if it ties into Kragnos.
I'm pretty sure that Teclis has done something awful and will have hugely unintended consequences. Allarielle seems convinced of that and I wonder if it ties into Kragnos.
I'm pretty sure that Teclis has done something awful and will have hugely unintended consequences. Allarielle seems convinced of that and I wonder if it ties into Kragnos.
That's Teclis alright
So he's the Cercei Lannister of Warhammer (with hopefully less incest)?
He's not selfish like Cersei. He's mostly well intentioned working toward the greater good (the greater good). It's more that he's the god of Hybris. And a lot of " I'll burn that bridge when I'll get to it".
(The incest stuff was probably more around Caledor II, who must've probably have married his mother)
Speaking of the Caledor Dragontamer bloodline: Whatever happened to Imrik? In the End Times he went to Athel Loren but then I think his plotline was just dropped? Him being possibly in a Lileath/Bretonnia faction would be another plus for getting those guys back into AoS.
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Yeah, his first elves are 90% soulless husks that raid the ‘civilised’ lands to steal replacement souls, his “perfect” elves have to huff rock dust to avoid the Eldar problem and they’re still genocidal dicks… I can’t wait to see what side effect stopping the necroquake has… maybe everyone will stop dying properly?
I am still curious what Malekith/Malerion or whatever he calls himself. What he did with his share of the elf souls they pumped from Slaanesh's stomach
As in the previous DoK book it was said he made monsters from them in the first realm lords book he uses shadow demons. What souls did he call dibs on?
Yeah, his first elves are 90% soulless husks that raid the ‘civilised’ lands to steal replacement souls, his “perfect” elves have to huff rock dust to avoid the Eldar problem and they’re still genocidal dicks… I can’t wait to see what side effect stopping the necroquake has… maybe everyone will stop dying properly?
Meanwhile Alarielle's revenants seem pretty fine outside the spite-revenants who mostly seem to be traumatised by the constant war defending the realm of life? The revenant range could use a few more entries though. It's only the tree revenants, spite revenants, arch revenant, and the new warsong revenant at the moment.
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Yeah, his first elves are 90% soulless husks that raid the ‘civilised’ lands to steal replacement souls, his “perfect” elves have to huff rock dust to avoid the Eldar problem and they’re still genocidal dicks… I can’t wait to see what side effect stopping the necroquake has… maybe everyone will stop dying properly?
Meanwhile Alarielle's revenants seem pretty fine outside the spite-revenants who mostly seem to be traumatised by the constant war defending the realm of life? The revenant range could use a few more entries though. It's only the tree revenants, spite revenants, arch revenant, and the new warsong revenant at the moment.
I’m not super surprised by that; Alarielle has all the power and knowledge of Lileath who was the elf goddess of prophecy so she could probably foresee when she was about to make a mistake with incarnating them, never mind being the godhead of the Realm of Life and therefore inherently suited to creating new life in her own right.
Malekith reuniting all the Elves was cool as hell imo
disclaimer i am very pro-dark elf and very anti-high elf
What about the wood elves? They weren't exactly happy, too, having the war criminal running around as their "king" in Athel Loren.
Wait. Are malektih and morathi warhammer's Zuko and Azula?
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I didn't watch Avatar, but I was under the impression Azula was Zuko's cruel little sister, and their abusive father was the series main villain? Morathi is Malekith's mom, and weren't they implied to have an incestuous relationship? Also, Malekith's dad was Aenarion, who's portrayed as a flawed but nevertheless great hero, IIRC. So, not seeing a whole lot of similarities.
i don't actually play these games but i love looking at GWs new models. The reaction to Kragnos made me realize how insanely good the Age of Sigmar range has gotten. Insane ultra magic age of myth fantasy in a completely undefined world has let the developers really let the creativity run wild, and everything since the Gloomspite Gitz or the Ossiarch (i don't remember which came first) has been absolutely amazing for me. Kragnos being 'pretty good' and not really exciting anyone shows me how hot a streak they've been on. I think making him not linked to the key destruction races was a mistake tho.
I'm also not really interested in the Warhammer 40k range anymore because there really hasn't been a lot of room for the designers to flex their creativity. The design of each of the races has become too constraining, and I'd much rather see what insane shit the designers can come up with for AoS.
They should lean into Kragnos being a unique stand-alone demigod and give him a couple single hero units from races/beings where Kragnos destroyed or defeated their founding God, so a couple swapped their allegiance to him.
Could add some really fun and unique units without needing to build an entire range around them.
Kragnos is more like destruction's Nagash for now, I guess. One god for the whole faction. Unlike order, where the different armies/races have their own god's or avatars.
The difference between Nagash and Kragnos is that the former's design really fits with his faction while the latter looks like a Beasts of Chaos model instead of having anything that ties him to destruction.
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To me it’s less that Kragnos looks more Beasts of Chaos than Destruction, but more that in the context of the Mortal Realms the Beastman line looks like it should be Destruction rather than Chaos. Set aside the Tzangor and they just look like natural inhabitants of Ghur rather than a corrupted race.
That would also be a way to solve that problem. Big retcon though. But kick out the Tzeentch stuff and the chaos spawn and explain stuff lige the gorgon and jabberslythe with the some sort of corruption of Ghur and it would work (like the spite revenants of the Sylvaneth or the destroyer cult of the necrons in 40k). Looking at the models I can't really see many or even any molded on chaos icons on them anyway.
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It could be a situation like the Fimir, where over time the Chaos Gods turned away from the Beasts to focus on other forces, and the Beasts subsequently turned to new gods.
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What's interesting is that it looks like there's a Coatl on it.
(Especially note the tail.)
He literally means Lord Kroak and his other Slann buddies. You can see the silhouette of his death mask in that segment. Please remember that AoS is actually Warhammer Fantasy Battles 40,000, as in multiple tens of millennia after the destruction of the Old World so they have a lot of time to stuff random ancient battles into without overlapping too much.
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I hadn't forgotten.
As it is kind of a venn diagram from my brother's rants about his elves of old and what was said in the video about the book. I remember his rants about playing Warhammer online and seeing the dwarf quest giver and how he ranted for days the dwarf would have been drowned before he set one foot on Ulthuan because of the sea guard let alone the various other units patroling
I am rather curious when they reboot warhammer {as it is one of the three things they may talk about this Sat.} will they just leave it as it was before the end times?
Seriously, all you would have to do is write out the contrived "Chaos forces are getting their complete shit wrecked, but then THIS ONE THING HAPPENED AND SUDDENLY THEY WON!!!!111" bullshit out. Like Thanquol turning up in Nuln with one screaming bell and the defenders, who are ripping the entire Skaven army apart with cannons and handgunners just suddenly giving up for no reason at all. Or any of the other million incredibly contrived circumstances in which chaos forces prevail despite having absolutely no way of winning.
It's seriously some incredibly shitty writing.
Edit: At least the Skaven got to drop the moon on Lustria though. Possibly inspired by RL Salvatore dropping a moon on Chewbacca.
Oh I'm not denying that at all, instead just accept that I'm trying not to think about that or I'll need to be in the angry dome for the rest of the evening.
The first book, Nagash, was pretty enjoyable, though. Even if my boy Eltharion got done dirty.
It's okay because (spoiler for Broken Realms: Teclis)
We haven't seen much of Tyrion and Malerion yet, but I bet that Allarielle is the only one that didn't make a new race of "aelves" completely made up of assholes.
That's Teclis alright
So he's the Cercei Lannister of Warhammer (with hopefully less incest)?
(The incest stuff was probably more around Caledor II, who must've probably have married his mother)
Speaking of the Caledor Dragontamer bloodline: Whatever happened to Imrik? In the End Times he went to Athel Loren but then I think his plotline was just dropped? Him being possibly in a Lileath/Bretonnia faction would be another plus for getting those guys back into AoS.
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As in the previous DoK book it was said he made monsters from them in the first realm lords book he uses shadow demons. What souls did he call dibs on?
Meanwhile Alarielle's revenants seem pretty fine outside the spite-revenants who mostly seem to be traumatised by the constant war defending the realm of life? The revenant range could use a few more entries though. It's only the tree revenants, spite revenants, arch revenant, and the new warsong revenant at the moment.
I’m not super surprised by that; Alarielle has all the power and knowledge of Lileath who was the elf goddess of prophecy so she could probably foresee when she was about to make a mistake with incarnating them, never mind being the godhead of the Realm of Life and therefore inherently suited to creating new life in her own right.
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What about the wood elves? They weren't exactly happy, too, having the war criminal running around as their "king" in Athel Loren.
Wait. Are malektih and morathi warhammer's Zuko and Azula?
I'm also not really interested in the Warhammer 40k range anymore because there really hasn't been a lot of room for the designers to flex their creativity. The design of each of the races has become too constraining, and I'd much rather see what insane shit the designers can come up with for AoS.
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Could add some really fun and unique units without needing to build an entire range around them.
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The difference between Nagash and Kragnos is that the former's design really fits with his faction while the latter looks like a Beasts of Chaos model instead of having anything that ties him to destruction.
They confirmed he can be taken in any Destruction keyworded force. But for me the aesthetic mismatch is too much to include him with my ogors.
And probably that crab/lobster claw and maybe that flute
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