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Dem Primary: Choose Your Fighter
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Streetwise HerculesRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
Streetwise HerculesRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
Don't bring up 2016, don't be a dick, don't make personal attacks on other posters and don't just shit memes into the thread.
9 more months of this I swear an early grave is looking tempting right now.
9 more months of this I swear an early grave is looking tempting right now.
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Feels quite biased of the mods to just outright ban Tulsi Gabbard from the thread.
Warren continues making all the right enemies.
Data journo at The Economist.
Publisher of the Argo Journal, AP member.
Not exactly "Let's draft Bob Iger"-territory.
ok but is that poll per state, or is it just noting that the massive populations of new york and california will be going for a democrat while all the usual red states will be for trump?
I stopped reading there. The article is clearly bullshit. It dropped Hillary Clinton in there for no good reason, trying to distract from any substantive discussion. Generally, if what someone says would get them banned from this forum, I consider them safe to disregard.
The numbers are national (how would you ever represent per-state polling as a percentage) but each of those leads would lead to easy victories if they held up.
The bigger issue is that since the general is so far away, such polls aren't extremely predictive of the actual outcome.
That's the greatest endorsement of Warren I've read so far.
Their disapproval fills me with pride.
I do have to agree that bacon can be a spice.
As for the Democratic candidate polls, Warren + Sanders are consistently equal to or above Biden, even in the most Biden-friendly polls (the CNN one last thread), and most of their supporters would likely switch to the other of the two instead of tossing to Biden. Also Warren had a lot more more #2's among the chaff candidates than Biden. So, as long as they don't do the worst possible thing and both stay in too long, one of them wins (at current trajectory).
Also, taking the Senate is more important than getting the best Democratic primary candidate on the national ticket, but this isn't the thread for that.
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Also, rando Philly guy with the most Philly response:
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I wonder if the best debate strategy isn't to show up as belligerent as possible, interrupt him with insults, and see if you can't provoke him into unilaterally canceling the remaining debates.
"When he passed away, Fred Trump had a property portfolio worth $1 Billion. His son Donald arranged its sale for $700 million. Is he that great a negotiator?"
Attacking his morals won't work, and he probably likes the belligerency of an insult, the wrestling with a pig thing. What he cares about is his image of a successful businessman, so you puncture that if you want to get under his skin.
I feel like the only way to "beat" Trump is to be aggressive and attack. We've never seen him stand up to anyone in person that wasn't carefully choreographed on his television appearances or with a crowd of supporters at his back.
Get up there and work the failure of Trump Steaks, Trump Air, ask why you can't root for the NY Trump Football team, or why he doesn't have an Emmy.
Oh an call him a coward, repeatedly, for any of the number of reasons he's a coward.
All of the perception of his business acumen came from his stupid TV show. I'm not sure how you change the minds of people foolish enough to actually believe The Apprentice is real.
b: the corollary of that argument is that we want a good, successful businessman as president, which fuck no
imagine supporting a big loser like that
If you’re gonna hit Trump on anything it should be that he’s a criminal and hasn’t done anything to help them
Yeah point out how much he's given away to corporate farms hurt by his tarriffs, but nothing to factory workers who have lost jobs due to them.
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i would much rather hear his voice on the debate stage than a lot of the other lower tier candidates who are polling ahead of him
he puts POC perspective out there that other people are not addressing in the same way at all
I can't say I've favoured him to win, but I have been generally happy with his presentation thus far.
I get that there's a sentiment of 'oh god, get some young blood in higher spots!' contrasted with the three frontrunners, but given that he's only 45 years old, there's time for him to build his reputation and take on further roles of responsibility.
Warren Castro would please me deeply.
Actually, Warren and any non old white guy from a supposed swing state would still please me.
I definitely agree, and a campaign that's about jobs and healthcare is probably the better tack. My reasoning was for when confronting Trump directly is unavoidable. My thesis is "he's doing bad things" will not resonate for a variety of reasons, so "he's failing at what he tries" is a better approach.
Wrong thread. Sorry.
Also Joe Biden on impeachment, less than 24 hours later:
"Well, Trump did it on purpouse". Come on man.
The Wisconsin gold standard poll (Marquette) has Biden up 7 on Warren in that state. He's up 3 points since the last poll, she's up 7. In the general, Biden +6, Sanders +2, Warren +1 on Trump. Warren's the only one to go up since last time.
Does feel like there's a little rally around Biden because Trump did illegal shit to attack him effect going on here. But I don't like Biden so I'm biased in explaining why he's had a bounce back this week.
My take is basically "yes Medicare for all. Don't we have companies that offer Medicare supplemental insurance?"
Obviously over time those will go away, and that's fine and good, but to say you can't have both seems at least a little silly.