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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I want that card for my Niv Mizzet Parun deck even though I run no slivers

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    SCG will no longer hold Legacy events on their tour series, outside of special events at SCGCons.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    That seems like a huge hit to the legacy format. Wern't those the biggest spotlight that legacy still gets?

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Oh wow, a creature that turns the stack into a queue. Too insane to live in this world.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    That seems like a huge hit to the legacy format. Wern't those the biggest spotlight that legacy still gets?

    If even SCG doesn't think paper Legacy is viable anymore that's uh, that's a bad sign for paper Legacy.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    That seems like a huge hit to the legacy format. Wern't those the biggest spotlight that legacy still gets?

    If even SCG doesn't think paper Legacy is viable anymore that's uh, that's a bad sign for paper Legacy.

    This suucccckckkkkkkksss. Legacy SCG's both to play in and to watch were unbeatable.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    maybe the reserve list is bad??? and other such classics in my comedy routine 'capitalism is shit, fuck you wizards'

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    I'm pretty sure everyone thinks the RL is bad. But WotC made it clear the last time outside speculators riding a bitcoin boom exploded the prices of the market that they have no intention of ever even mentioning that list again.

    It's unfortunate. It really is the most fun "most of the time."

    SCG has been looking to remove Legacy for like 3 years though. I just didn't ever expect they'd just hard drop it because it's been very successful very consistently.

    for me this means I'll have to go to more local legacy events I guess, but I'm pretty lucky with access to weekly events, plus one of the stores in the suburbs here does a monthly competitive series feeding into year end championships and they've recognized that Legacy is a huge draw for them and i think like 1/3 of their events next year are still legacy. they just replaced most of the standards with pioneer.

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    EnigmedicEnigmedic Registered User regular
    Can't really be sad for a format that's barrier to entry is "kept cards you had when you were 7"

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    something that is also a low-key hit to legacy, i think, is that it's a format with a very specific power level. and the more you introduce players to formats with different power levels, the more likely it is that players are like "oh this is roughly about the power level i like playing with"

    for me, for example, i was introduced to the game through standard play, and standard play became the level of game power i generally liked. limited, too weak. legacy? eeeh too strong.

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    Enigmedic wrote: »
    Can't really be sad for a format that's barrier to entry is "kept cards you had when you were 7"

    There are several fun and playable legacy decks that cost less than a tier 1 standard deck. If you can afford to play magic in general, you can get into legacy. And if you want to Really Get Serious About Legacy, you could play a budget tier deck while investing in a good deck over time. That's one of the nice things about the format, values don't shift a ton. Put a couple hundred dollars into dual lands and you can get a couple hundred back out of them if you need to. It's a cool format, and also really fun to watch even if you don't want to participate.

    I'm super sad to see SCG legacy coverage go.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I assume pioneer had something to do with this. I’m sure this was only a matter of time but I bet a new format that people are very excited for pushed it up.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    So it seems like there's a vocal minority of people that think the Mystery Boosters are trash because they're not like some stacked reprint set, but looking around Twitter I've seen reprints of (spoilered for people that want to try and draft/open the packs blind):
    Mana Crypt ($200)
    Bloom Tender ($50)
    Kolaghan's Command ($25)
    Tireless Tracker ($13)
    Path to Exile ($7 uncommon)
    Baleful Strix ($5 uncommon)
    Fatal Push ($5 uncommon)
    Inquisition of Kozilek ($5 uncommon)
    Skullclamp ($5 uncommon)

    And that's just from my very limited sightings on Twitter. The full list comes out on Monday.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    So it seems like there's a vocal minority of people that think the Mystery Boosters are trash because they're not like some stacked reprint set, but looking around Twitter I've seen reprints of (spoilered for people that want to try and draft/open the packs blind):
    Mana Crypt ($200)
    Bloom Tender ($50)
    Kolaghan's Command ($25)
    Tireless Tracker ($13)
    Path to Exile ($7 uncommon)
    Baleful Strix ($5 uncommon)
    Fatal Push ($5 uncommon)
    Inquisition of Kozilek ($5 uncommon)
    Skullclamp ($5 uncommon)

    And that's just from my very limited sightings on Twitter. The full list comes out on Monday.

    Yeah... the full list.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    that is many cardboard pieces

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    So it seems like there's a vocal minority of people that think the Mystery Boosters are trash because they're not like some stacked reprint set, but looking around Twitter I've seen reprints of (spoilered for people that want to try and draft/open the packs blind):
    Mana Crypt ($200)
    Bloom Tender ($50)
    Kolaghan's Command ($25)
    Tireless Tracker ($13)
    Path to Exile ($7 uncommon)
    Baleful Strix ($5 uncommon)
    Fatal Push ($5 uncommon)
    Inquisition of Kozilek ($5 uncommon)
    Skullclamp ($5 uncommon)

    And that's just from my very limited sightings on Twitter. The full list comes out on Monday.

    Yeah... the full list.



    I... I hadn't seen that. Goddamn.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    On the upside just played my local shops first weekly pioneer event and it was a ton of fun and the crowd turned out for it and was super hype.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    That "Not for constructed play" on the test cards is so getting ignored for our kitchen table games. Hopefully they're not too broken!

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2019
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That "Not for constructed play" on the test cards is so getting ignored for our kitchen table games. Hopefully they're not too broken!
    They are very broken

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    KelorKelor Registered User regular
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    Yes.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Is there a rampage card too?!

    Also since I'm here:

    "Each pack has 2 C/U of each color, 1 Multi C/U, 1 artifact/land C/U, 1 playtest card, 1 M15 forward R/M and one pre-M15 card in its original frame."

    What's C/U mean?

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    WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    oh god, banding

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    ZeroCowZeroCow Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Oh god, banding!

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Common / Uncommon?

    Oh right! I was overthinking it, thanks.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2019
    Banding Sliver: a crime against God and man

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    NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That "Not for constructed play" on the test cards is so getting ignored for our kitchen table games. Hopefully they're not too broken!

    Some of them are fine, they just do weird stuff that they probably couldn't get through design for whatever reason. On one end there's a 3BG 4/4 Flying Vigilance that's one big Great Designer Search joke, on the other you have an enchantment that creates Forest tokens every turn.

    Some other stuff is kind of bad - One With Death is B for "You lose the game.", and completely unplayeable without combo setups (e.g. Hive Mind).

    The main problem cards are the ones that are really overpowered and mostly exist as jokes, e.g. the Eldrazi Sliver that makes your Eldrazi Slivers and gives your Slivers Annihilator 1.

    There's also a handful of cards that are just there to test the waters, like a variety of dual lands. (One enters untapped if you have creatures from the other three colors, one taps before your combat step, one enters untapped and gives a poison counter when you tap it...)

    There's also a few classics, like Throat Wolf and Barry's Land.

    It's a varied bunch. Here's a visual spoiler of the known ones so far.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    MaRo confirmed that the Mystery Boosters hitting stores WILL NOT contain the playtest cards:

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    ChaosHatChaosHat Hop, hop, hop, HA! Trick of the lightRegistered User regular
    There's a version of this going to stores? I thought it was just cons. Who is going to buy packs from a set that has over 1000 cards and at what price? Without a super unique thing like the playtest cards or the assurance that you'll get a mythic or something in every pack it just seems like you're unlikely to get anything worth the price.

    But that's true of all boosters. It just seems even higher variance.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    MaRo confirmed that the Mystery Boosters hitting stores WILL NOT contain the playtest cards:


    Then who fuckin cares, frankly.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Neveron wrote: »
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That "Not for constructed play" on the test cards is so getting ignored for our kitchen table games. Hopefully they're not too broken!

    Some of them are fine, they just do weird stuff that they probably couldn't get through design for whatever reason. On one end there's a 3BG 4/4 Flying Vigilance that's one big Great Designer Search joke, on the other you have an enchantment that creates Forest tokens every turn.

    Some other stuff is kind of bad - One With Death is B for "You lose the game.", and completely unplayeable without combo setups (e.g. Hive Mind).

    One With Death is also a reference to what might be the worst Magic card ever printed

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    turtleant wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    MaRo confirmed that the Mystery Boosters hitting stores WILL NOT contain the playtest cards:


    Then who fuckin cares, frankly.

    I think they're still kinda neat as like a variant of chaos draft, but yeah, not having the playtest cards is a big fuckin' downer.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Neveron wrote: »
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That "Not for constructed play" on the test cards is so getting ignored for our kitchen table games. Hopefully they're not too broken!

    Some of them are fine, they just do weird stuff that they probably couldn't get through design for whatever reason. On one end there's a 3BG 4/4 Flying Vigilance that's one big Great Designer Search joke, on the other you have an enchantment that creates Forest tokens every turn.

    Some other stuff is kind of bad - One With Death is B for "You lose the game.", and completely unplayeable without combo setups (e.g. Hive Mind).

    One With Death is also a reference to what might be the worst Magic card ever printed

    Or the best card ever printed? Eh?

    No but actually One With Nothing is terrible BUT it's the best kind of terrible because it's a fun puzzle to try and make work.

    I put it in a madness deck and it worked one time but that one time was amazing.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    Like my shop always does chaos draft in the thursday between a prerelease and the actual release the next friday and it tends to get 20-30 people each set. They'd definitely get turn out for "hey it's chaos draft the set here's release weekends drafts." I don't know if there's much individual demand unless also people like drafting with their friends but like, I'm ok with a product in that niche and I don't feel like I have to drop money on a big holiday release like a master's thing

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    nwrabenwrabe Insidious Squid Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    turtleant wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    MaRo confirmed that the Mystery Boosters hitting stores WILL NOT contain the playtest cards:


    Then who fuckin cares, frankly.

    I think they're still kinda neat as like a variant of chaos draft, but yeah, not having the playtest cards is a big fuckin' downer.

    As someone who likes collecting the more unusual Magic stuff (Un-sets, Planechase, Vanguard, etc.) I was super excited to get all these test cards. But if they are convention-only, that probably means there are only a few copies of each one in the world, which likely puts them out of my price range, even if they aren’t legal in any format.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Those cheeky fuckers have a new MTG arena event that is Momir's Madness.

    Except with Oko.

    All the creatures you make are 3/3 elks in addition to their other types.

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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited November 2019
    After decades of rumors on email lists and usenet forums, it's finally here.

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    Throat Wolf

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    maybe the reserve list is bad??? and other such classics in my comedy routine 'capitalism is shit, fuck you wizards'

    Ben Beliweiss says what we already knew.

    Though Cyrus Corman-Gill made a good point about the format:

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