College would probably run kids out there in the fall in spite of new daily cases.
The NFLPA might have just enough power to unify against playing. Meaning the president calls them all sonsofbitches, he-man fans complain about how soft players are these days, and the NFL itself learns just how precarious their position in general is and probably just gets scabs to play for a fraction of the cost.
College would probably run kids out there in the fall in spite of new daily cases.
The NFLPA might have just enough power to unify against playing. Meaning the president calls them all sonsofbitches, he-man fans complain about how soft players are these days, and the NFL itself learns just how precarious their position in general is and probably just gets scabs to play for a fraction of the cost.
I have to imagine a lot more players are maga guys than just Tom Brady add to that "I'm tough I'm physically young covid won't kill me" type stupidity and I dunno if the players would push to not play.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Regarding scabs, I do know after having watched enough college, AAF and one XFL game, if that's the quality they're going to broadcast, I'm just gonna tune out for the season. It's bad enough watching some teams IN this league play against each other (like Jags/Titans, at least a couple years ago), that I've got zero interest in watching substandard games.
Also in solidarity for those players that put their health above the profit motives of ownership. But I'm not going to kid myself that's the primary reason.
Would be interesting to see how they handle players coming down with it. You thought the "Darnold has mono" narrative from last year was tedious? Teams having to forfeit because of an outbreak, would be disruptive.
I super want the season to get cancelled cause that would lead to next years CHAOS DRAFT.
Put all the GM’s in an arena to fight for the right to draft Trevor Lawrence.
How would they even determine draft order, or first pick odds?
If the NFL season is canceled, and the NCAA season is canceled, would they need to have a draft at all? Presumably the players that didn't get to play in college would get another year of eligibility, though I admittedly don't know what would happen with NFL contracts (or scholarships for the college players and the recruiting of the next year of players). Would they just get put on pause? Would teams still have to pay the players even if there is no season? Would players accept not getting paid for a year because there was no football? There are so very many questions it would raise. The simplest answer would be to put a pause on everything and just come back the next year as if the year off didn't happen, but there are going to be a ton of complications from such an approach. I think it is highly likely neither the NCAA nor the NFL have a season this year, but what impact that will have is completely unknown. About the only thing I can be reasonably sure of is that the NCAA will not make decisions with the well being of the players in mind.
Wow belecheck has a normal ass house. His dining room is normal, and you can see a picket fence outside the window. Making me think it's not very big. Dude makes money too.
His biggest strength was pass blocking, somehow, so besides helping Jackson get more comfortable in the pocket, if that translates to helping Jackson get even more space to get to the open field, look out
- Who the fuck is Mel
- What the fuck is an EDGE
- Why the fuck does Mel think every team needs an EDGE?
... I'm assuming it's edge rusher, but I've never seen it listed like that before. It's weird. It's like being listed as a DB.
It’s cause OLB and DE often merges
Basically what position did Lawrence Taylor play? He played the “fuck the QB sideways into the turf” position, which is based more on player ability vs position
Are they doing round 3 tonight too? Can't believe how espn is milking this. Well I can. There's nothing on tv. They are taking the teams entire time on the clock for analysis even when the pick is in. Normally when the pick is in live they go straight to it even if they're doing analysis.
Wow belecheck has a normal ass house. His dining room is normal, and you can see a picket fence outside the window. Making me think it's not very big. Dude makes money too.
Cape Cod style houses can be sizable. But that room was so very New England.
I mean, there are more draft picks coming...so it's not like they won't pick a WR or two up still.
Gute apparently said they didn't like any other options in the first round. Arguably they should have picked up Mims or traded up for another WR but who knows.
My initial reaction was certain not a positive one, but I'm waiting to see what the next couple days bring before I freak out too much.
I mean, there are more draft picks coming...so it's not like they won't pick a WR or two up still.
Gute apparently said they didn't like any other options in the first round. Arguably they should have picked up Mims or traded up for another WR but who knows.
My initial reaction was certain not a positive one, but I'm waiting to see what the next couple days bring before I freak out too much.
WELP!
I mean, they could always pick up a wideout in the fourth. There's likely to still be some value there...
Oh. Yeah. Shit.
That they don't essentially get a pick until the sixth (compensatories means they're picking at 175), and it's "Yeah, Rodgers can put the entire team on his shoulders again.".
Mel Kiper is the sort of sport turd who, if he had been around 30+ years ago, would have been parodied on the Simpsons episode where Lisa helps Homer gamble on football.
I mean, there's having a backup plan, and then there's drafting a QB in the second round after signing your franchise QB to a mega deal. Not sure that was the best move, my Eagles?
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Mel Kiper is the sort of sport turd who, if he had been around 30+ years ago, would have been parodied on the Simpsons episode where Lisa helps Homer gamble on football.
Mel has been around that long. He’s been doing this exact job for ESPN since 1984.
Being wrong about everything.
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I honestly think he still has the job because up until maybe 15 years ago he was the only one who gave a shit about the draft. And honestly, good for him. He found his niche and stuck with it.
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Mel Kiper is the sort of sport turd who, if he had been around 30+ years ago, would have been parodied on the Simpsons episode where Lisa helps Homer gamble on football.
Mel has been around that long. He’s been doing this exact job for ESPN since 1984.
Being wrong about everything.
Then I suppose it was just a matter of attrition until he rose to the top level of dipshit sports turds.
I mean, there are more draft picks coming...so it's not like they won't pick a WR or two up still.
Gute apparently said they didn't like any other options in the first round. Arguably they should have picked up Mims or traded up for another WR but who knows.
My initial reaction was certain not a positive one, but I'm waiting to see what the next couple days bring before I freak out too much.
WELP!
I mean, they could always pick up a wideout in the fourth. There's likely to still be some value there...
Oh. Yeah. Shit.
That they don't essentially get a pick until the sixth (compensatories means they're picking at 175), and it's "Yeah, Rodgers can put the entire team on his shoulders again.".
They picked up a couple FAs before draft day, one being from the CFL who was pretty good. They also signed an undrafted free agent yesterday. But yeah...feels like a strange set of picks for the Packers this year.
Successful organizations draft for future needs. Unsuccessful ones draft to fill immediate needs. Spectacularly unsuccessful ones draft to fill immediate needs that they purposely created for themselves, endlessly spinning their wheels in the mud.
Who was that written about? I'll give you two guesses.
This is so tiring to watch. 2014, could have taken Aaron Donald to learn behind Suh for a year, then come in to replace him when he leaves (which everyone knew he was going to). Instead draft Ebron for "win now" and fail. How frick'n hard is it to just keep Slay for 1 more year? If he takes off after, so be it. You are in win now mode for your jobs and you don't think a year of Slay/Okudah would be worth while? But then you have Okudah playing next to him for a year to learn before taking over. Say nothing of the fact there will probably be a shortened off season this year. Say nothing of trying to trade down, if we still had Slay teams might have actually thought about moving up for Tua or Herbert.
It's just mind boggling to see 2 different regimes make the same mistakes over and over.
I mean, I get it. They don't want to get into a Pats situation where they're going into a season with noone. And having someone sit a season or two, isn't a bad thing, especially if they need seasoning, which this guy does. And @Atlas in Chains covers the 5th year option thing, which makes sense and wasn't something I thought about.
But it means that they're telling Rodgers, "Yeah, you've got enough to work with. It's on you". And they just don't.
Meaning we'll see more of the same. Rodgers putting the team on his back, probably making it to the playoffs, then eating it, because the team just isn't good enough. And the final years of the best QB I've ever seen, will go out, not with a bang, but a whimper.
I agree and disagree. While we need more help for rodgers as we saw a couple seasons ago we have no really viable backup qb. We really need to start bringing somebody along so we have a good backup and get some years of seasoning before they would likely be asked to do anything. Rodgers is no young buck any more and throwing a season into the trash can again if he gets injured is not a great plan.
Maybe. But given the wide disparity at the position, does it really matter? I can't think of position that has as great an impact between the best and the worst active in the league.
Even if Love is remotely decent (high 10's, low 20's ranked QB), he's unlikely to do anything with the mediocrity that the Packers have on roster. He'd need to be exceptional to have any real chance of having the Packers do better than limp into a winning season, maybe a WildCard loss.
The way I see it, it's better to give Rodgers the best chance to succeed, and gamble that he won't get injured for any real length of time, than invest significantly in a backup situation. With the exception of Foles/Eagles (and that was due to the loaded talent already on the team, which the Packers do not have), I can't think of a circumstance where a backup to a good QB was able to garner any real success.
Given the choice between the Packers giving Rodgers the weapons to go deep in the playoffs with a chance at a ring, but at the risk of completely flaming out if he gets hurt, or getting a QB who can keep the team "in the hunt", but can't bring it home, I'll take the former, because at least then you might get a meaningful draft pick.
I mean, if Love turns out to be Farve>Rodgers Mk II, then I'll eat my words. But opportunities for a ring are limited, and I think this pick means the team is running it twice on 2nd down from the 1*, on the best chance for one before Rodgers has to hang it up.
* Perpetually, fuck that game, and fuck Mike McCarthy. People thought Garrett was too risk averse. Yeah, good fucking luck with the Beav.
Have to agree, the Packers were 1 game away from the Super Bowl. How in the world you go from there to "let's start the rebuilding process" is kind of insane. If Rodgers only had 1 more year like Alex Smith, I could see it. But from what I'm reading Rodger's has 3 years of dead cap money, so he's likely to be starting till 2022/2023. So you're basically wasting the low cost contract years if Love is good.
Also doing the same thing and expecting the same results seems pretty foolish in a sport with so many variables like football. From what I heard the reason they drafted Rodger's wasn't so he could sit for years behind Farve; but was because Farve kept toying with retirement. Rodger's has said he wants to play till 40. Draft a WR, OL, and run stuffing DL and go for it again.
With the Packer's drafting Love and no WR's, the Bear's drafting their 10th TE, and the Lions being the Lions. Feels like most of the NFC North face planted this year.
Successful organizations draft for future needs. Unsuccessful ones draft to fill immediate needs. Spectacularly unsuccessful ones draft to fill immediate needs that they purposely created for themselves, endlessly spinning their wheels in the mud.
Who was that written about? I'll give you two guesses.
This is so tiring to watch. 2014, could have taken Aaron Donald to learn behind Suh for a year, then come in to replace him when he leaves (which everyone knew he was going to). Instead draft Ebron for "win now" and fail. How frick'n hard is it to just keep Slay for 1 more year? If he takes off after, so be it. You are in win now mode for your jobs and you don't think a year of Slay/Okudah would be worth while? But then you have Okudah playing next to him for a year to learn before taking over. Say nothing of the fact there will probably be a shortened off season this year. Say nothing of trying to trade down, if we still had Slay teams might have actually thought about moving up for Tua or Herbert.
It's just mind boggling to see 2 different regimes make the same mistakes over and over.
I'm not sure I follow? There were plenty of reports that Detroit was looking to trade down, but just didn't get an offer they liked.
Successful organizations draft for future needs. Unsuccessful ones draft to fill immediate needs. Spectacularly unsuccessful ones draft to fill immediate needs that they purposely created for themselves, endlessly spinning their wheels in the mud.
Who was that written about? I'll give you two guesses.
This is so tiring to watch. 2014, could have taken Aaron Donald to learn behind Suh for a year, then come in to replace him when he leaves (which everyone knew he was going to). Instead draft Ebron for "win now" and fail. How frick'n hard is it to just keep Slay for 1 more year? If he takes off after, so be it. You are in win now mode for your jobs and you don't think a year of Slay/Okudah would be worth while? But then you have Okudah playing next to him for a year to learn before taking over. Say nothing of the fact there will probably be a shortened off season this year. Say nothing of trying to trade down, if we still had Slay teams might have actually thought about moving up for Tua or Herbert.
It's just mind boggling to see 2 different regimes make the same mistakes over and over.
I'm not sure I follow? There were plenty of reports that Detroit was looking to trade down, but just didn't get an offer they liked.
Without Slay we had a huge hole at CB. With Slay, yeah we could have used another CB but it wasn't a massive need. It may not have influenced anything but if I'm negotiating for a trade down/up, I'd rather not have to come up with some reason as to how not having a starting CB in place isn't a reason for why we might not draft Tua.
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Gotta have a huge secondary when playing against ::checks:: Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, and ... ::checks again:: ... uh Brian HOYER?
The NFLPA might have just enough power to unify against playing. Meaning the president calls them all sonsofbitches, he-man fans complain about how soft players are these days, and the NFL itself learns just how precarious their position in general is and probably just gets scabs to play for a fraction of the cost.
I have to imagine a lot more players are maga guys than just Tom Brady add to that "I'm tough I'm physically young covid won't kill me" type stupidity and I dunno if the players would push to not play.
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Put all the GM’s in an arena to fight for the right to draft Trevor Lawrence.
How would they even determine draft order, or first pick odds?
I could see 3 ways, and they're all unfair to someone.
Keep the same order. Good for the shitty teams last year, bad for good teams who got bad.
Ping pong balls. Totally random, do it NBA style. Up and down? The rich can get richer.
Something I may be like is tiered ping pong balls. Still sucks for most teams but brackets would be like
1-10
11-21
22-32
Each of those brackets get pingpong balls in their bracket. So if you had a top 10 pick you still have it. But you can go from 1 to 10.
After each pick the name is replaced in the sack.
Also in solidarity for those players that put their health above the profit motives of ownership. But I'm not going to kid myself that's the primary reason.
Would be interesting to see how they handle players coming down with it. You thought the "Darnold has mono" narrative from last year was tedious? Teams having to forfeit because of an outbreak, would be disruptive.
So, we just give the Pats seven of the top fifteen picks, each of which they'll trade away, and end up with 85 mid-late picks?
If the NFL season is canceled, and the NCAA season is canceled, would they need to have a draft at all? Presumably the players that didn't get to play in college would get another year of eligibility, though I admittedly don't know what would happen with NFL contracts (or scholarships for the college players and the recruiting of the next year of players). Would they just get put on pause? Would teams still have to pay the players even if there is no season? Would players accept not getting paid for a year because there was no football? There are so very many questions it would raise. The simplest answer would be to put a pause on everything and just come back the next year as if the year off didn't happen, but there are going to be a ton of complications from such an approach. I think it is highly likely neither the NCAA nor the NFL have a season this year, but what impact that will have is completely unknown. About the only thing I can be reasonably sure of is that the NCAA will not make decisions with the well being of the players in mind.
- Who the fuck is Mel
- What the fuck is an EDGE
- Why the fuck does Mel think every team needs an EDGE?
... I'm assuming it's edge rusher, but I've never seen it listed like that before. It's weird. It's like being listed as a DB.
His biggest strength was pass blocking, somehow, so besides helping Jackson get more comfortable in the pocket, if that translates to helping Jackson get even more space to get to the open field, look out
It’s cause OLB and DE often merges
Basically what position did Lawrence Taylor play? He played the “fuck the QB sideways into the turf” position, which is based more on player ability vs position
Mel has been around forever as an espn draft analyst. He famously got into an argument with the Colts gm one year after calling their pick trash.
Edge is edge rusher. Passing down specialist edge rusher. Like Cameron wake who we lost.
Edge rushers help your secondary
Cape Cod style houses can be sizable. But that room was so very New England.
WELP!
I mean, they could always pick up a wideout in the fourth. There's likely to still be some value there...
Oh. Yeah. Shit.
That they don't essentially get a pick until the sixth (compensatories means they're picking at 175), and it's "Yeah, Rodgers can put the entire team on his shoulders again.".
Mel has been around that long. He’s been doing this exact job for ESPN since 1984.
Being wrong about everything.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Then I suppose it was just a matter of attrition until he rose to the top level of dipshit sports turds.
So, they have an accurate proven veteran that makes few mistakes but has a limited deep ball.
And they hire someone who is literally none of those things.
The only saving grace might be that he’s not accurate enough to throw the beads to his intended target
This just makes me wish Tampa had gone after Cam instead of Brady.
Leave it to the South to go for this incestuous shit
On a more serious note, I'm guessing they think Brees and Payton can fix him. Or they think they'll get him dirt cheap.
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They picked up a couple FAs before draft day, one being from the CFL who was pretty good. They also signed an undrafted free agent yesterday. But yeah...feels like a strange set of picks for the Packers this year.
This is so tiring to watch. 2014, could have taken Aaron Donald to learn behind Suh for a year, then come in to replace him when he leaves (which everyone knew he was going to). Instead draft Ebron for "win now" and fail. How frick'n hard is it to just keep Slay for 1 more year? If he takes off after, so be it. You are in win now mode for your jobs and you don't think a year of Slay/Okudah would be worth while? But then you have Okudah playing next to him for a year to learn before taking over. Say nothing of the fact there will probably be a shortened off season this year. Say nothing of trying to trade down, if we still had Slay teams might have actually thought about moving up for Tua or Herbert.
It's just mind boggling to see 2 different regimes make the same mistakes over and over.
Have to agree, the Packers were 1 game away from the Super Bowl. How in the world you go from there to "let's start the rebuilding process" is kind of insane. If Rodgers only had 1 more year like Alex Smith, I could see it. But from what I'm reading Rodger's has 3 years of dead cap money, so he's likely to be starting till 2022/2023. So you're basically wasting the low cost contract years if Love is good.
Also doing the same thing and expecting the same results seems pretty foolish in a sport with so many variables like football. From what I heard the reason they drafted Rodger's wasn't so he could sit for years behind Farve; but was because Farve kept toying with retirement. Rodger's has said he wants to play till 40. Draft a WR, OL, and run stuffing DL and go for it again.
With the Packer's drafting Love and no WR's, the Bear's drafting their 10th TE, and the Lions being the Lions. Feels like most of the NFC North face planted this year.
I'm not sure I follow? There were plenty of reports that Detroit was looking to trade down, but just didn't get an offer they liked.
Without Slay we had a huge hole at CB. With Slay, yeah we could have used another CB but it wasn't a massive need. It may not have influenced anything but if I'm negotiating for a trade down/up, I'd rather not have to come up with some reason as to how not having a starting CB in place isn't a reason for why we might not draft Tua.