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[US Foreign Policy] Peace For Sale
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A new thread to discuss US policy towards other nations in war and peace.
On January 3rd, 2020 the President of the United States ordered an airstrike against Iranian General Qassem Soleimani at the Baghdad International Airport in Iraq. The head of the IRGC Quds forces and somewhat equivalent to DNI, Joint Chief, and shadowy Secretary of State rolled together. The assassination of Soleimani occurred without informing Congressional Leadership, which is required by law [ 50 U.S.C. § 3091(a)(1) ] due to Congress having sole warmaking powers under the Constitution. (though having granted the Executive a wide berth for exigencies under the War Powers Act, this was not an extraordinary circumstance) As of now Iran has condemned the assassination by our government, and has made threats of unspecified reprisals in response.
At approximately 5:30 p.m. (EST) on January 7, Iran launched more than a dozen ballistic missiles against U.S. military and coalition forces in Iraq. It is clear that these missiles were launched from Iran and targeted at least two Iraqi military bases hosting U.S. military and coalition personnel at Al-Assad and Irbil.
The Electoral College has been hell on Iraq.
What will happen next? Events, dear boy, events.
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On January 3rd, 2020 the President of the United States ordered an airstrike against Iranian General Qassem Soleimani at the Baghdad International Airport in Iraq. The head of the IRGC Quds forces and somewhat equivalent to DNI, Joint Chief, and shadowy Secretary of State rolled together. The assassination of Soleimani occurred without informing Congressional Leadership, which is required by law [ 50 U.S.C. § 3091(a)(1) ] due to Congress having sole warmaking powers under the Constitution. (though having granted the Executive a wide berth for exigencies under the War Powers Act, this was not an extraordinary circumstance) As of now Iran has condemned the assassination by our government, and has made threats of unspecified reprisals in response.
At approximately 5:30 p.m. (EST) on January 7, Iran launched more than a dozen ballistic missiles against U.S. military and coalition forces in Iraq. It is clear that these missiles were launched from Iran and targeted at least two Iraqi military bases hosting U.S. military and coalition personnel at Al-Assad and Irbil.
The Electoral College has been hell on Iraq.
What will happen next? Events, dear boy, events.
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Official prevention of cross contamination post.
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The Russian investigation, and related issues: Mueller Russian Investigation Thread
Sundry other corrupt practices: The numerous other Trump investigation and Impeachment threads.
General Middle East goings on: The Middle East Thread
Canada specific things and poutine : Canada Thread
BREXIT: Hiberno-Brittania thread
Venezuela? : South America Thread
Trump immigration policy, Muslim ban and beyond: Immigration Policy Thread
Firings and Hirings of Senior Government positions: Trump Cabinet Thread
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You are a MADMAN.
I genuinely can't fucking handle that tweet. "All is well" followed fucking directly by "Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq". That's nowhere near all is fucking well.
That's a message from someone in a role that would have once unironically had him labelled the leader of the free world. It's absolute insanity.
Yes. That Oliver North.
But imagine Obama saying “all’s well!” by tweet, after refusing to go in front of cameras, after an Iranian attack on a joint us base.
I’m sure this is all Obama’s fault tho they’ll make that clear
Also is this actually a US base? Or some sort of joint base?
Also all’s well when it’s looking like there are Iraqi casualties
Just because the missiles were ineffective does not mean all is well you fucking sociopath
The right wing has gone off the deep end defending this
The fact it sounds like there's even a sliver of a chance I may have been right is fucking incredible.
And Democrats let that happen every time, because they don't give enough of a shit to risk looking bad with the stupid American public, or because opening that door catches Democrats too, etc. Fucking hell. I think I hate most Democrats too, right this moment.
I want to hear things like 'prosecuted for war crimes' and 'referred to the Hague' out of Democratic candidates and elected officials, and I want follow-through in 2021.
We'll be lucky to live through this.
*spits*
It would not, any more than it stopped Vietnam. Rich kids will have ways out and everyone else will keep voting their tribal identity.
Vietnam was a little over a decade after the end of the Korean war, which ended with a victory (in rar rar US terms)
We are STILL IN Afghanistan and Iraq with no real "rar rar US" victory in sight.
Reuters' Tehran Bureau Chief. But not seeing anything else confirming it yet.
so, no fatalities period if the US report is accurate
AP reporter confirms, citing Iranian state TV.
I guess we can hope this is just a really unfortunately-timed accident.
God I really hope that's what happens.
The Associated Press have it, quoting Iranian media.
Blurb says suspected mechanical issue.
Hopefully reality's writers are just drunk again and this is an absurd coincidence. Ukrainian Air, of all carriers!
Junior Senator from Minnesota. More of these statements, please.
Crashed shortly after taking off from the airport in Tehran, according to CNN.
According to a co worker who was stationed there at some point, it was a U.S. base, then we pulled most of our troops out, and now it's an Iraqi base with U.S. support personnel.
Also, I guess it has a big bunker for everyone to go hide in in case someone launches missiles or w/e at them, plus a good 15 minutes heads up as long as the missiles don't break the sound barrier.
(I'm not sure how accurate this information is)
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Which makes sense. If Iran wanted to kill people with no notice, they could. The fact that they (apparently) used missiles that gave the base plenty of lead time to secure people says to me that they're trying to thread a sticky needle, needing to balance an appropriately dramatic show of force while also doing what it can to minimize the risk of casualties.
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I'll fucking take it. Yes, the POTUS is a frat turd who learned about countries with hard names to pronounce and manliness from 80s action movies. I don't care. Whatever makes war not happen.
If it ends up that there were no deaths or even casualties, it’s not that hard to believe.
If this missile attack were even a month ago, it wouldn’t even register in the news. It’s only the current context that it’s a much bigger deal for the media to give a flying fuck on a base attack where no one dies.
Trump would be smart to let this end here. (Insert joke here on Trump’s intelligence, I’m too tired to give a shit about humor right now.)
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Also a Saudi prince was just at the Pentagon.
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