Poe's arc is good. He's an insubordinate soldier who thinks he knows better and when he sends his friends on a wild goose chase for what he thinks is a better solution fucks everything up.
I mean his arc kind of sucks since RoS didn't have him as a responsible leader and its like TLJ never happened.
As written, it's an idiot plot and turns our Latino main character into a hotheaded chauvinist in service to a theme of 'obey your superiors, even if everything you're seeing looks really sketchy and everyone around you agrees that it looks bad enough to warrant mutiny'. Which obviously isn't the intent, but still.
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You know Tros was never going to be good, but it is still surprising how bad it was. They got back the guy who has never satisfactorily ended a story in his life, and whose response to "what does the future of star wars look like" is "the first movie" and who clearly did not care or understand about any character who was not named solo.
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the fuck did going to bespin accomplish all they did was get caught?
Poe's arc is good. He's an insubordinate soldier who thinks he knows better and when he sends his friends on a wild goose chase for what he thinks is a better solution fucks everything up.
I mean his arc kind of sucks since RoS didn't have him as a responsible leader and its like TLJ never happened.
As written, it's an idiot plot and turns our Latino main character into a hotheaded chauvinist in service to a theme of 'obey your superiors, even if everything you're seeing looks really sketchy and everyone around you agrees that it looks bad enough to warrant mutiny'. Which obviously isn't the intent, but still.
Would have been nice if Holdo also made some sort of appearance in the first movie if just to give her some sort of authority 'I know what I'm doing' cred. No, not all of us are reading the new novels which establish characters like her so please give us a reason to trust this lady who came out of nowhere. And maybe not coma Leia and kill Akbar just to put her in a position to butt heads with Poe.
I might like TROS more than TLJ, at least as a dumb movie to half watch...except where a few things in TLJ strike me as miswritten in a way that reads sketchy or is stupid, shit in TROS is just intentionally fucking racist or stupid or both, which is kind of hard to ignore!
One thing I hope Disney learned from their first few years with the license was to cool it on the release schedule (which they by all appearances had done until the dozen new Disney+ shows all got announced recently) and to let a single vision at least outline new projects going forward instead of the round-robin madlib that was the sequel trilogy.
im pretty sure they specifically said they were slowing down star wars movies. im fine with a bunch of tv shows though. they need some sort of D+ content.
Finn doesnt need to be a Jedi. He was already a capable badass
I think it was totally fine that he's not a jedi, there's plenty of cool non-jedi in star wars
But it's definitely some hot bullshit that the posters and stuff were outright teasing him with a lightsaber and shit, and then in the actual trilogy he's mostly just relegated to sidekick status
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Finn doesnt need to be a Jedi. He was already a capable badass
I think it was totally fine that he's not a jedi, there's plenty of cool non-jedi in star wars
But it's definitely some hot bullshit that the posters and stuff were outright teasing him with a lightsaber and shit, and then in the actual trilogy he's mostly just relegated to sidekick status
I would have loved it if she survived TLJ only to show up as the big obstacle to Finn and the other ex-Stormtroopers in TROS' climax, Finn escaping her grasp continually up to then turning him into her Moby Dick, enough so that it overrides her (abiet stated in non-movie material) usual "It's all about me still living" attitude.
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That would have required JJ and Terrio care about anything in TLJ.
Course they would have demonstrate the ability to care about anything at all.
God, Tros still makes me so angry. Everything related to it also sucks, the novelization, the Poe Dameron spice runner book. More context for the events just make it worse. I
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Star wars youtube announced that they are doing some High Republic character primer videos, so like a fool I search for Avar Kriss, only to be inundated with videos about how to redesign the "overly masculine" original look.
Launch every star wars youtuber (Except for Andi and Anthony and those related) into the goddamn sun and let their names be stricken from all records.
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Snyders star wars would at least be technically proficient and not edited like someone found the good meth.
He would have at least not butchered john William's music.
As far as the content it would have been the most dour and joyless thing imaginable
It'd have been black and white. Kylo Ren would have been jacked. Rey would barely participate. The trailer would have been set to "John William Presents: Hallelujah." A bunch of US Army tanks and helicopters would have taken down Palpatine. Lightsabers would have been revealed to run on children's souls.
Here is a vfx Artists React video of them going over a lot of stuff in the Mandalorian.
I'm not usually a fan of "X reacts to Y" videos but these guys are one of my favorite channels because they explain what's happening and why, and can break down vfx shots into cool layman's chunks.
The Luke in this was more than likely a deep fake as opposed to cg. Deep fakes are getting a lot better so look for Disney to bring back literally every dead or old actor they have the rights to, soon.
Also, surprised to find out some of the Razorcrest shots in this were filmed practically the same way they filmed the OT ships!
Basically, Mando has some like, way more cutting edge, big budget movie level effects work going on in it than I had first imagined.
I legit can’t wait for a big movie budget to have a crack at doing something similar with a bigger set so you can get bigger wides and more interactive stuff in the shot.
HAH! I forgot they were like "JJ needs help to make this good get the Batman vs. Superman guy no not that guy IDIOT the other one"
the honest to god real fucked up take I have in my head is "tros could've been decent if it were two normally paced movies instead of one edited like a child breathlessly telling you about the toys they were playing with"
HAH! I forgot they were like "JJ needs help to make this good get the Batman vs. Superman guy no not that guy IDIOT the other one"
the honest to god real fucked up take I have in my head is "tros could've been decent if it were two normally paced movies instead of one edited like a child breathlessly telling you about the toys they were playing with"
TROS could have been the whole sequel trilogy. That's how much shit they crammed in there.
And it could have been totally fine. Like, TFA levels. A nostalgic return to a universe beloved as a child.
But what happened was JJ went "See Star Wars can be fun!" And Johnson went "Yeah!" And then JJ went "No not like that."
Yeah, much like HYDRA being the actual bad guys instead of SHIELD in another movie, having the emperor be the actual bad guy instead of some other supervillain was dumb and bad and deflated the thing
The movies being a debate between Abrams and Johnson sucked too
I will die on the hill of "The newest trilogy should have been based on the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy".
Just...tone down the BDSM aspect.
But then again, I liked TLJ the most out of the new trilogy because it tries to do things differently. We've had 6 movies of Jedi vs Sith. That's enough.
I will die on the hill of "The newest trilogy should have been based on the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy".
Just...tone down the BDSM aspect.
But then again, I liked TLJ the most out of the new trilogy because it tries to do things differently. We've had 6 movies of Jedi vs Sith. That's enough.
However well you think it worked for novels, it would have super not worked for movies. Because NJO was not a sequel to Return of the Jedi, it was the culmination of like a decade+ of novels, comics, and games. Deleting all the build up to it would also delete all the emotional connection and drama of certain things being reintroduced or killed off. It's one thing to say in a movie "Leia and Han had three kids... oh no, the youngest one died!" Vs an entire book series starring that kid coming out first.
I will die on the hill of "The newest trilogy should have been based on the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy".
Just...tone down the BDSM aspect.
But then again, I liked TLJ the most out of the new trilogy because it tries to do things differently. We've had 6 movies of Jedi vs Sith. That's enough.
However well you think it worked for novels, it would have super not worked for movies. Because NJO was not a sequel to Return of the Jedi, it was the culmination of like a decade+ of novels, comics, and games. Deleting all the build up to it would also delete all the emotional connection and drama of certain things being reintroduced or killed off. It's one thing to say in a movie "Leia and Han had three kids... oh no, the youngest one died!" Vs an entire book series starring that kid coming out first.
So what you're saying is... Ssi-ruuk trilogy, followed by a Vong trilogy?
Brilliant! Ship it and print it, time to make some money!
I will die on the hill of "The newest trilogy should have been based on the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy".
Just...tone down the BDSM aspect.
But then again, I liked TLJ the most out of the new trilogy because it tries to do things differently. We've had 6 movies of Jedi vs Sith. That's enough.
However well you think it worked for novels, it would have super not worked for movies. Because NJO was not a sequel to Return of the Jedi, it was the culmination of like a decade+ of novels, comics, and games. Deleting all the build up to it would also delete all the emotional connection and drama of certain things being reintroduced or killed off. It's one thing to say in a movie "Leia and Han had three kids... oh no, the youngest one died!" Vs an entire book series starring that kid coming out first.
So what you're saying is... Ssi-ruuk trilogy, followed by a Vong trilogy?
Brilliant! Ship it and print it, time to make some money!
If terrible EU fans were in charge of Disney Star Wars, the fastest and least harmful route would be:
Part 1
-Thrawn movie trilogy
-A hopefully less rapey Courtship of Princess Leia movie or TV miniseries
-X-Wing TV series, possibly animated like Rebels, would go from the comics to the novels in order
Part 2
-A condensed Jedi Academy movie
-A condensed Dark Forces movie (you could cut this one for time, but people would love it)
-YA Young Jedi show with plotlines swapping between Jacen/Jaina and Anakin
Part 3
-A condensed movie about the Corellian trilogy
-A movie that covers Luke and Mara getting together
Then you would have the bare minimum for a movie version of NJO that wouldn't have lost every interesting element going into it.
if for some reason they really want to go with the spooky outside alien force as an antagonist, which i just have mixed feelings about conceptually (at best), you might as well throw Tim Zahn a bone and make it the Not-Vong he's been trying to push for like four books now
at the very least i don't think they're named in the "pick two exotic words from a menu" style
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How long could it take to write a script? Ten minutes?
As written, it's an idiot plot and turns our Latino main character into a hotheaded chauvinist in service to a theme of 'obey your superiors, even if everything you're seeing looks really sketchy and everyone around you agrees that it looks bad enough to warrant mutiny'. Which obviously isn't the intent, but still.
You know Tros was never going to be good, but it is still surprising how bad it was. They got back the guy who has never satisfactorily ended a story in his life, and whose response to "what does the future of star wars look like" is "the first movie" and who clearly did not care or understand about any character who was not named solo.
Would have been nice if Holdo also made some sort of appearance in the first movie if just to give her some sort of authority 'I know what I'm doing' cred. No, not all of us are reading the new novels which establish characters like her so please give us a reason to trust this lady who came out of nowhere. And maybe not coma Leia and kill Akbar just to put her in a position to butt heads with Poe.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
I mean Episodes 1-3 tried but...they were episodes 1-3.
Are you saying that "I don't like sand" doesn't fill in so many gaps? How dare you.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
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I think it was totally fine that he's not a jedi, there's plenty of cool non-jedi in star wars
But it's definitely some hot bullshit that the posters and stuff were outright teasing him with a lightsaber and shit, and then in the actual trilogy he's mostly just relegated to sidekick status
I would have loved it if she survived TLJ only to show up as the big obstacle to Finn and the other ex-Stormtroopers in TROS' climax, Finn escaping her grasp continually up to then turning him into her Moby Dick, enough so that it overrides her (abiet stated in non-movie material) usual "It's all about me still living" attitude.
Let's Play Final Fantasy 'II' (Ch10 - 5/17/10)
Course they would have demonstrate the ability to care about anything at all.
God, Tros still makes me so angry. Everything related to it also sucks, the novelization, the Poe Dameron spice runner book. More context for the events just make it worse. I
Launch every star wars youtuber (Except for Andi and Anthony and those related) into the goddamn sun and let their names be stricken from all records.
Why are they like this
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Breathtakingly dull and stupid to watch.
He would have at least not butchered john William's music.
As far as the content it would have been the most dour and joyless thing imaginable
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I'm not usually a fan of "X reacts to Y" videos but these guys are one of my favorite channels because they explain what's happening and why, and can break down vfx shots into cool layman's chunks.
Spoilered for Mando stuff.
The Luke in this was more than likely a deep fake as opposed to cg. Deep fakes are getting a lot better so look for Disney to bring back literally every dead or old actor they have the rights to, soon.
Also, surprised to find out some of the Razorcrest shots in this were filmed practically the same way they filmed the OT ships!
Basically, Mando has some like, way more cutting edge, big budget movie level effects work going on in it than I had first imagined.
Here are some videos I’ve been watching.
I legit can’t wait for a big movie budget to have a crack at doing something similar with a bigger set so you can get bigger wides and more interactive stuff in the shot.
Satans..... hints.....
the honest to god real fucked up take I have in my head is "tros could've been decent if it were two normally paced movies instead of one edited like a child breathlessly telling you about the toys they were playing with"
TROS could have been the whole sequel trilogy. That's how much shit they crammed in there.
And it could have been totally fine. Like, TFA levels. A nostalgic return to a universe beloved as a child.
But what happened was JJ went "See Star Wars can be fun!" And Johnson went "Yeah!" And then JJ went "No not like that."
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The movies being a debate between Abrams and Johnson sucked too
Just...tone down the BDSM aspect.
But then again, I liked TLJ the most out of the new trilogy because it tries to do things differently. We've had 6 movies of Jedi vs Sith. That's enough.
However well you think it worked for novels, it would have super not worked for movies. Because NJO was not a sequel to Return of the Jedi, it was the culmination of like a decade+ of novels, comics, and games. Deleting all the build up to it would also delete all the emotional connection and drama of certain things being reintroduced or killed off. It's one thing to say in a movie "Leia and Han had three kids... oh no, the youngest one died!" Vs an entire book series starring that kid coming out first.
So what you're saying is... Ssi-ruuk trilogy, followed by a Vong trilogy?
Brilliant! Ship it and print it, time to make some money!
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If terrible EU fans were in charge of Disney Star Wars, the fastest and least harmful route would be:
Part 1
-Thrawn movie trilogy
-A hopefully less rapey Courtship of Princess Leia movie or TV miniseries
-X-Wing TV series, possibly animated like Rebels, would go from the comics to the novels in order
Part 2
-A condensed Jedi Academy movie
-A condensed Dark Forces movie (you could cut this one for time, but people would love it)
-YA Young Jedi show with plotlines swapping between Jacen/Jaina and Anakin
Part 3
-A condensed movie about the Corellian trilogy
-A movie that covers Luke and Mara getting together
Then you would have the bare minimum for a movie version of NJO that wouldn't have lost every interesting element going into it.
Embrace the extragalactic aliens who don't care about the force.
at the very least i don't think they're named in the "pick two exotic words from a menu" style
-The Great Ewok Caper
-An Ewok Christmas Carol