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[Chat] Ethics

RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
edited March 2020 in Debate and/or Discourse
Europa Universalis 4 has an achievement where the tiny nation of Kale has to conquer all grassland in Asia before the midway point of the game. That means you need to conquer land in Burma, India, Indonesia, China, Japan, Persia and Siberia in 165 years.

However the midway point is only triggered when the Institution of Global Trade spawns.

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Is it ethical to manipulate the trade nodes so Global Trade never spawns and you can keep playing the game until the actual end of the game another 210 years later, or am I just cheating myself?

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    Option C: you are the Illuminati, secretly controlling global trade flows behind the scenes to implement a world order of your own design

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    The real pain about this is because I can never get absolutism I've got a big coalition everywhere but not the force limit to intimidate it into disbanding.

  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    If you aren't interacting with other players, there is no such thing as unethical behavior in videogames. If you weren't supposed to do it, the devs shouldn't have let you.

    It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    NEO|Phyte wrote: »
    If you aren't interacting with other players, there is no such thing as unethical behavior in videogames. If you weren't supposed to do it, the devs shouldn't have let you.

    Well part of the reason I'm doing it now is the Devs are gonna change how Global Trade spawns in the next patch so you can only delay it for 30 years.

  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    Can you rephrase this as a trolley problem?

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
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    World's a bit mad at me

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    keep everyone in desperate poverty so the tiny, bloodthirsty nation of Kale may triumph over the uninhabited lands where starved corpses litter the field like spring flowers

    sounds completely ethical to me, go for it

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    We're seriously getting Dungeons & Dragons spam now?

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    We're seriously getting Dungeons & Dragons spam now?

    Roll Reflex Save DC 23

  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    We're seriously getting Dungeons & Dragons spam now?

    Look, sometimes a guy needs a bigger bonus on their rolls.

    It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    I can't say I've ever contemplated closure of an ER

    Like maybe you get there and there is an interminable wait or a lack of supplies

    But an actual closure is something I did not imagine

    I’ve been working in ERs since 2003 and I’ve never seen it happen. Weird times indeed.

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Dead Cells with a boss cell is a lot fuckin harder. Also I guess I dunno how the damage multiplier on yourself works. I died to the Hand and it says I had *4 damage and nope don’t know how that shit happened.

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    keep everyone in desperate poverty so the tiny, bloodthirsty nation of Kale may triumph over the uninhabited lands where starved corpses litter the field like spring flowers

    sounds completely ethical to me, go for it

    This is your answer for everything

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Dead Cells with a boss cell is a lot fuckin harder. Also I guess I dunno how the damage multiplier on yourself works. I died to the Hand and it says I had *4 damage and nope don’t know how that shit happened.

    I am unable to make any progress at all with a boss cell. I've made it to the first boss maybe there times and when he goes into his low health second stage I get smushed.

    I think I might turn it off and go back to trying to just clear all the stages to unlock runes and whatnot

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Deffo get the spider rune on normal. It’s a big help in unlocking some cool blueprints.

    My current loadout of choice is the whip, frost blast and two traps, preferably a slicer and a double crossbow. Killing things at a distance is the only way I’ve found I can progress at all on a boss cell run.

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    I can beat Dead Cell on 0BC pretty easily.

    I get wrecked on 1BC

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    I think I should probably unlock more mutations too. Not many seem very useful

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    Dead Cells with a boss cell is a lot fuckin harder. Also I guess I dunno how the damage multiplier on yourself works. I died to the Hand and it says I had *4 damage and nope don’t know how that shit happened.

    I am unable to make any progress at all with a boss cell. I've made it to the first boss maybe there times and when he goes into his low health second stage I get smushed.

    I think I might turn it off and go back to trying to just clear all the stages to unlock runes and whatnot

    You should definitely get all the runes first. They greatly increase quality of life and also let you reach places with extra stuff.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    I think I should probably unlock more mutations too. Not many seem very useful

    What color do you usually run with?

  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Elizabeth the First was such a badass woman.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Elizabeth the First was such a badass woman.

    She's a 6/6/5 in EU4. That's pretty great.

  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    I think I should probably unlock more mutations too. Not many seem very useful

    What color do you usually run with?

    I've yet to find a preference really. Until you mentioned it was better to focus I always selected my upgrades based on which gave the most health.

    Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    my parents are doing a mass a couple of towns over to stream. I could have sang but tbh I don't wanna! don't want to go to work, didn't want to interact with even just the priest. 4 masses every weekend is good money for little time, one mass once is not much and I'd have had to wear real pants instead of sweats because it's not my church and it's being streamed.

    anyway I'll probably link it because I take pride in their singing and would love anyone to dip in and hear them.

    (ever present note: I work in a church doing music, I'm not at all religious. my parents are, my dad is basically an evangelical by way of devout catholic and my mom is a more classic "social justice catholic" is how she'd say it. much of my family does music in various churches in NJ)

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    I think the people in those areas will find the rule of Kale hard to swallow.

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    because kale the food tastes bad, you see

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  • TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Elizabeth the First was such a badass woman.

    She's a 6/6/5 in EU4. That's pretty great.

    I love playing England in EU4. Those first years are always harrowing.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    Elizabeth the First was such a badass woman.

    She's a 6/6/5 in EU4. That's pretty great.

    I love playing England in EU4. Those first years are always harrowing.

    I used the Arumba strat to attack Scotland on December 1444 and be ready to PU France at my Leisure

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    I think I should probably unlock more mutations too. Not many seem very useful

    What color do you usually run with?

    I've yet to find a preference really. Until you mentioned it was better to focus I always selected my upgrades based on which gave the most health.

    In terms of runes, green has the best with Necromancy. If you can get good at parrying What Doesn't Kill.

    Purple provides insane damage with Support and Tranquility. Hunter's instinct is a good addition too.

    I don't do red often but most people I've watched like Frenzy and Open wounds.

  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Beasr and I just finished watching Tiger King and I am aghast

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Echo wrote: »

    AMD Drivers over there, playing with Tinkertoys and a card at 90 centigrade

  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Beasr and I just finished watching Tiger King and I am aghast

    Don’t you feel good about yourself that you devoted 8 hours of your life to watching that?

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    I hate teammates who run ahead, get into firefights, die, and then D/C immediately

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck Registered User regular
    emerson gave up a brownie so that a couple of neighbor kids could have one

    (v altruist)

    now she is writing one of those neighbor kids a 'you're welcome' note

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck Registered User regular
    Six wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Beasr and I just finished watching Tiger King and I am aghast

    Don’t you feel good about yourself that you devoted 8 hours of your life to watching that?

    it's very compelling tv

  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    I hate teammates who run ahead, get into firefights, die, and then D/C immediately

    I mean, would you rather they stay in the game being bad?

    It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
    Warframe/Steam: NFyt
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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    You guys I'd been seeing people talk about Tiger King for days and it wasn't until my brother started gushing about it that it came together in my mind that it was a documentary.

    Like my brain erased that man from my memory. Everything I've heard since says it was right to do so.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2020
    Six wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Beasr and I just finished watching Tiger King and I am aghast

    Don’t you feel good about yourself that you devoted 8 hours of your life to watching that?

    it's very compelling tv

    All the key informants were separately motivated by personal gain, vengeance, and the guarantee of government immunity to turn state's witness, and the jury should weigh the testimony against my client in that light!! The government's case is weak and the evidence never should have been admitted!!! Justice demands nothing less!!!!

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