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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    I think the epilogue is perfectly in tone with the rest of the story and in that regard I cannot critique it as its own entity

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    akajaybayakajaybay Registered User regular
    There's a real clarity of purpose in having their prison system not be one focused on rehabilitation, or even simple confinement. No, we're going to suck any joy or spark you have left in you with monsters, to make sure you're all suffering.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    akajaybay wrote: »
    There's a real clarity of purpose in having their prison system not be one focused on rehabilitation, or even simple confinement. No, we're going to suck any joy or spark you have left in you with monsters, to make sure you're all suffering.

    The biggest thematic flaw with Potter was that it was never able to do anything interesting with how the fun escapism of the wizard school grated against the mounting evidence that the society they were training to join was a dystopian nightmare.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    I think Harry Potter is bad and I have always thought it was bad.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    and a made-up tribe to boot!

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    Didn't the "Dark side" ending in that game have the lead character suddenly remember that he's native, go back to the tribe that hadn't been seen since the opening chapters of the game, and do a genocide?

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    I'm told he also got digitally yellow-faced for Far Cry 4

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    I don't remember any sucker punch videogames

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    and a made-up tribe to boot!

    ew, fucking really?

    People just really like to ignore that actual, real life native people exist, huh

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    It hadn't occured to me until now (likely due to Sony being a Japanese company) that Sucker Punch is a decidedly American studio making this deeply Japanese game.

    My eyebrow raised the second I heard english voices with perfect english lip syncing.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    and a made-up tribe to boot!

    I have previously complained about this myself, BUT I have in recent years learned that there can be legal liabilities to using real-life tribal nations, especially in anything that has characters from said nation undertaking criminal or otherwise "disparaging" actions.

    Billions got sued by a real-life tribe, for a recent example. In that specific case, the show was REALLY DUMB and put real-life PEOPLE in a story about a tribal casino doing shady, underhanded shit, and THAT was the bigger problem. But legal departments get reeeeeeal gunshy.

    Shit's complicated. I still prefer real tribes, but there are cases where the legal department ties your hands.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Edit: uh, butt post

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    When you have, say, the developers of the Killer Instinct reboot, a game with fuckin cyborg dinosaurs and battletoads and all manner of dumb shit, actually going to the effort to consult with the Nez Perce in an effort to build a more respectful representation of a native character, you do wonder what's SP's excuse especially with all that Sony money.

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    I'm told he also got digitally yellow-faced for Far Cry 4

    He also did a Scatman Crothers impersonation to play Jazz in a Transformers game!

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    edited June 2020
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Remember that Troy Baker did digital redface for the last sucker punch game

    I'm told he also got digitally yellow-faced for Far Cry 4

    He also did a Scatman Crothers impersonation to play Jazz in a Transformers game!

    I—

    Jesus lord

    There's layers to that one

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    WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    The sucker punch line for the reason they used a fake tribe was that they were scared of not doing justice to a real one

    So, cowardice

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Harry Potter becoming a cop is troublesome.

    But also, Harry Potter as a character is a shitty wizard who is only good at combating evil wizards, so it makes a sort of sense.

    The bigger issue is that the Harry Potter universe establishes that there are maybe ten jobs for an adult in the wizard world.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    the thing is there is documented evidence in the books that Harry is a really good teacher and he fuckin' loves Hogwarts

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    the thing is there is documented evidence in the books that Harry is a really good teacher and he fuckin' loves Hogwarts

    You have to remember that there are a comically low amount of schools for wizards in this universe. And only high school. There's not wizard college or wizard elementary school so uh... yeah she didn't think things through at all. Where do Pure Blood wizard kids learn to read and do basic math? Certainly not to Muggle elementary like Harry and Hermione went to.

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    did they ever explain why wizards need money when they can just make stuff with magic?

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    did they ever explain why wizards need money when they can just make stuff with magic?

    Cause they can’t make stuff with magic

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    pretty sure that if harry wanted the defense against the dark arts job that they would let him have the job

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    pretty sure that if harry wanted the defense against the dark arts job that they would let him have the job

    Curses are a real thing in Harry Potter, that job could legitimately be cursed. The history of the teachers there is certainly shocking. I don't think it'd be weird if Harry taught in his 40s, after spending two decades hunting Voldemort loyalists.

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    Crimson KingCrimson King Registered User regular
    nobody actually needs money and jobs, it's just something we have to play along with to benefit the ruling class. the idea that even omnipotent wizards would still feel obliged to get up and go to work every day is actually brilliant anti-capitalist satire

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    did they ever explain why wizards need money when they can just make stuff with magic?

    Cause they can’t make stuff with magic

    there's a scene in the movie where some cups in a vault turn into like a thousand cups

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ubik wrote: »
    Ubik wrote: »
    did they ever explain why wizards need money when they can just make stuff with magic?

    Cause they can’t make stuff with magic

    there's a scene in the movie where some cups in a vault turn into like a thousand cups

    Fake cups or some bullshit

    I dunno, wizards aren’t known for their moral compasses

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Whaddya mean fake cups do they fuckin hold liquid can I drink out of it if so thats a cup

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    the thing is there is documented evidence in the books that Harry is a really good teacher and he fuckin' loves Hogwarts

    i don't even like harry potter but harry growing up to be the defense against the dark arts teacher is so blindingly obvious that i'm baffled that it's not what happens

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    shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    In book 4, there's magic leprechaun gold that disappears a few hours after they spawn it. This is actually the source of the big Harry/ Ron fight in that book because Ron paid Harry back for something with that gold and Harry didn't notice or care when it disappeared. Money has no value to Harry since he inherited incredible wealth in the first book. Ron is struck by the horrible unfairness of capitalism and directs that anger towards Harry. Harry's feelings are hurt and he thinks about income disparity for literally zero seconds ever. Including for the rest of the series. He occasionally buys his friends nice stuff (including funding the Joke shop in the later books) but often doesn't because of their pride. Which is also horrible, Ron goes most of year 2 with a broken wand which almost gets them killed in the action parts (and does save their lives at one point, in fairness).

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    the thing is there is documented evidence in the books that Harry is a really good teacher and he fuckin' loves Hogwarts

    i don't even like harry potter but harry growing up to be the defense against the dark arts teacher is so blindingly obvious that i'm baffled that it's not what happens

    Potter was written in that awkward era when social media was kicking off and tons of creators would abandon years of setup because someone “guessed” the obvious direction of the plot in their blog.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Whaddya mean fake cups do they fuckin hold liquid can I drink out of it if so thats a cup

    if I recall the cups were also like, red-hot

    the million burning cups were a security precaution.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    DJ Eebs wrote: »
    the thing is there is documented evidence in the books that Harry is a really good teacher and he fuckin' loves Hogwarts

    i don't even like harry potter but harry growing up to be the defense against the dark arts teacher is so blindingly obvious that i'm baffled that it's not what happens

    Potter was written in that awkward era when social media was kicking off and tons of creators would abandon years of setup because someone “guessed” the obvious direction of the plot in their blog.

    I mean, they probably still do that

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    if I was a famous writer, writing a big ol' sprawling epic of a story, I definitely wouldn't change the plot. What I'd do is cite the person in a footnote on the page that their prediction happened on.

    "holy shit he killed his mom!"*

    *Scott Scottsman, tumblr 2019

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Whaddya mean fake cups do they fuckin hold liquid can I drink out of it if so thats a cup

    Fuckin try to drink outta the fake wizard cup

    Don’t blame me when your eyeballs turn into assholes

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    as a 30something-year-old man who just read the entire HP series for the first time last year

    the character of harry potter as written in those books is a complete shithead

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    The best version of Harry Potter is Little Witch Academia

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    H0b0man wrote: »
    I mean for me when I read Harry Potter as a kid the parts I liked the most were all the normal school stuff, except instead of doing algebra they're learning how to fly and cast crazy spells.

    It struck a good mix of regular school stuff that I could relate to, but also it's different cause magic.

    Then the later books started going way more into the overarching plot of saving the world and focused less on them just being school kids which made them way less interesting to me.

    Currently watching all the movies as background noise. The later movies are all dark and moody and by like movie 4 or 5 spells stop being fun or interesting entirely and everyone just uses their wands like guns. It could really be any movie about teens fighting big bad guy after like, goblet of fire.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    yeah even when I was a kid, I wasn't super fond of Harry himself.

    I developed, in what must have been convergent evolution with countless other nerd children, the "Neville was the real Chosen One" theory and then I was like, "woah a message board about Harry Potter, I can't wait to tell them my- oh they did it already."

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    PetesalzlPetesalzl vorpal blade in hand Registered User regular
    i remember watching something where they commented on that part of the HP series. that in the beginning when they were doing wizard duels they di the disarming spell that seemingly only knocked the wand out of the other persons hand. then as the series went on that same spell seemingly was a catch all for "im shooting magic out of my wand at you" which did varying amounts of damage randomly. like sometimes when the bad guys used it and if it missed chunks of wall would explode and stuff.

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