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Did you know [VTubers] are going to take over the world? Hololive, Nijisanji, VShojo, etc!
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You may have noticed a lot of anime avatars suddenly being animated and talking and blinking and waving their arms. These are vtubers, or virtual streamers, or whatever other terms exist for them.
Anyway this is the thread where we post about all this silly shit. In a positive light though; vtubers catch a ridiculous amount of harassment and doxxing attempts, so because of that, I'm gonna have to make that the one rule for this thread - DON'T DO THAT SHIT OR PERPETUATE IT. Not that the last iteration had a problem!
Wait there's a second rule that goes with the first; unconfirmed rumors don't have a place here.
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Did you know [VTubers] are going to take over the world? Hololive, Nijisanji, VShojo, etc! 50 votes
Kanata claims those are the sounds of excitedly petting and loving on the rabbit. Not like... eating it alive. Despite the entire audience's perception to the contrary. She's such a goofus.
Kanata claims those are the sounds of excitedly petting and loving on the rabbit. Not like... eating it alive. Despite the entire audience's perception to the contrary. She's such a goofus.
Sounds like something someone who had just eaten a rabbit would say.
Kanata claims those are the sounds of excitedly petting and loving on the rabbit. Not like... eating it alive. Despite the entire audience's perception to the contrary. She's such a goofus.
Sounds like something someone who had just eaten a rabbit would say.
The game Kiara is describing at about 8:20 minutes in, is I think a weird mahjong solitaire that was on a lot of windows computers back in the day.
Correction: it is now still a thing and I’m downloading it to my iphone
The game's called Shanghai. My dad plays it all the time.
I watched further in and the chat, Kiara and Ame corroborated my version.
yes, I'm sure Shanghai was the original name
It goes by multiple names. The Microsoft version was (and still is) named just "Mahjong" which is why so many Western people think of it when they hear the name.
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No matter who wins we all win!
Holostars is part of Hololive!
Also I'm sure the poll is lacking but I don't much about how many groups there are. I did neglect independent vtubers and that's my bad and I feel bad.
The game Kiara is describing at about 8:20 minutes in, is I think a weird mahjong solitaire that was on a lot of windows computers back in the day.
Correction: it is now still a thing and I’m downloading it to my iphone
The game's called Shanghai. My dad plays it all the time.
I watched further in and the chat, Kiara and Ame corroborated my version.
yes, I'm sure Shanghai was the original name
It goes by multiple names. The Microsoft version was (and still is) named just "Mahjong" which is why so many Western people think of it when they hear the name.
Like a decade ago when I wanted to play Mahjong on my phone finding the actual game in the app store was a pain in the ass cause it was nothing but clones of thr tile matching version.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Hoping the nature of vtubers kills some of the really shitty aspects of the idol industry. There's a decent chunk of media there that doesn't make it outside to the rest of the world because the various idol agencies expect to have a huge amount of control, that no one else wants to give them.
I'm kind of curious to see how much freedom vtubers ultimately get on collabing with vtubers outside their agency. I'm a bit fuzzy on how much they have right now, but seems like independent vtubers are fine. Just that it seems like if they belong to another agency, that it becomes a problem. Then again, I haven't dived too deep into the vtuber hole, so I might have missed something.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
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No matter who wins we all win!
There was that time Matsuri was asking Roberu to be her big brother.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
I know how fandom works, why do you think this works for another company with largely the same demographic
There's clearly not a firm ban or rule that Hololive and Holostars can't collab because it has happened many, many times. There MAY be internal company pressure (from either side of the company) that doing so a lot isn't in their best interests. There's no way we would really know what that would look like. The Holostar sub numbers are slowly climbing though, so they may very well reach some kind of positive milestone this year.
Or get cut loose suddenly, it's hard to say. I don't think anyone could have predicted how CN played out at the start of last year.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
I know how fandom works, why do you think this works for another company with largely the same demographic
The geographic distributions of the Hololive and Nijisanji demographic are different
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
I know how fandom works, why do you think this works for another company with largely the same demographic
The geographic distributions of the Hololive and Nijisanji demographic are different
Nijisanji definitely skews older and more feminine but has had to deal with the same issues that hololive talent are currently having, notably with suzuhara lulu in the past
This element no longer dominates the nijisanji fan culture largely cause ichikara has taken proactive measures to aggressively protect its talent, something cover has actively refused to do at all turns
It is the same policy that prevents free collaboration between hololive and holostars, whether a hard rule set by management or a soft rule set by complete refusal to take action for fear of endangering capital
Per the geographic distributions comment, Yozora Mel was stalked long before hololive had a western audience, matsuri and rushia were bullied last week by her Japanese fans last week, and so on
This is a longstanding policy of cowardice on cover's behalf for years making itself manifest in myriad ways now
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
I know how fandom works, why do you think this works for another company with largely the same demographic
The geographic distributions of the Hololive and Nijisanji demographic are different
Nijisanji definitely skews older and more feminine but has had to deal with the same issues that hololive talent are currently having, notably with suzuhara lulu in the past
This element no longer dominates the ninisanji fan culture largely cause ichikara has taken proactive measures to aggressively protect its talent, something cover has actively refused to do at all turns
It is the same policy that prevents free collaboration between hololive and holostars, whether a hard rule set by management or a soft rule set by complete refusal to take action for fear of endangering capital
Oh, I mean that Hololive is more popular overseas and Nijisanji is much more popular in Japan. Haven't verified that other stuff.
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
And is not for a lack of trying. Kiara set up a Minecraft stream with her character's illustrator, huke. It went down in flames caused by a stream of incel rage. So is difficult for them to host the collab, is easier to just be the guest, like Mori going to the Trash Taste podcast.
Holostars is really part of hololive in name only considering how much exposure they get/are allowed to get
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
I know how fandom works, why do you think this works for another company with largely the same demographic
The geographic distributions of the Hololive and Nijisanji demographic are different
Nijisanji definitely skews older and more feminine but has had to deal with the same issues that hololive talent are currently having, notably with suzuhara lulu in the past
This element no longer dominates the ninisanji fan culture largely cause ichikara has taken proactive measures to aggressively protect its talent, something cover has actively refused to do at all turns
It is the same policy that prevents free collaboration between hololive and holostars, whether a hard rule set by management or a soft rule set by complete refusal to take action for fear of endangering capital
Oh, I mean that Hololive is more popular overseas and Nijisanji is much more popular in Japan. Haven't verified that other stuff.
Yeah I corrected myself and added on, sorry I didn't catch that!
I do think there is something to be evaluated in Coco and other hololive talent actively beginning to court the reddit fanbase last year but I think that is a separate issue from cover's unwillingness to protect talent, or at least an ancillary piece of the puzzle
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The game's called Shanghai. My dad plays it all the time.
Steam: pazython
I watched further in and the chat, Kiara and Ame corroborated my version.
Sounds like something someone who had just eaten a rabbit would say.
Steam: pazython
Naw, that sounds like this
https://youtu.be/JnU00OYE3A4
https://youtu.be/9s4WItswNFY
It goes by multiple names. The Microsoft version was (and still is) named just "Mahjong" which is why so many Western people think of it when they hear the name.
Also I'm sure the poll is lacking but I don't much about how many groups there are. I did neglect independent vtubers and that's my bad and I feel bad.
Like a decade ago when I wanted to play Mahjong on my phone finding the actual game in the app store was a pain in the ass cause it was nothing but clones of thr tile matching version.
Blame Japan's shitty idol culture on their slow growth. Things are picking up for them with vtubers becoming popular outside of Japan though.
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https://youtu.be/eUdUv1Y4SqM
Hoping the nature of vtubers kills some of the really shitty aspects of the idol industry. There's a decent chunk of media there that doesn't make it outside to the rest of the world because the various idol agencies expect to have a huge amount of control, that no one else wants to give them.
I'm kind of curious to see how much freedom vtubers ultimately get on collabing with vtubers outside their agency. I'm a bit fuzzy on how much they have right now, but seems like independent vtubers are fine. Just that it seems like if they belong to another agency, that it becomes a problem. Then again, I haven't dived too deep into the vtuber hole, so I might have missed something.
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Nijisanji allows for collabs between genders freely, though admittedly it took some pressure from the talent leveraging its power as labor
This is one of many reasons why their male talent is among their most popular talent
'Blame Japan' is a very lazy way and racially coded to get around the specific failings of cover corp
https://youtu.be/5DiWnfAh9iw
https://youtu.be/PHtcwniDXHU
Cover doesn't block collabs between Hololive and Holostar. The problem is most of the girls got a fanbase that loses their shit if they interact with the opposite gender so they never collab outside of the safety bubble that is Hololive.
BOY WAS THAT A THING.
I know how fandom works, why do you think this works for another company with largely the same demographic
Or get cut loose suddenly, it's hard to say. I don't think anyone could have predicted how CN played out at the start of last year.
The geographic distributions of the Hololive and Nijisanji demographic are different
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Nijisanji definitely skews older and more feminine but has had to deal with the same issues that hololive talent are currently having, notably with suzuhara lulu in the past
This element no longer dominates the nijisanji fan culture largely cause ichikara has taken proactive measures to aggressively protect its talent, something cover has actively refused to do at all turns
It is the same policy that prevents free collaboration between hololive and holostars, whether a hard rule set by management or a soft rule set by complete refusal to take action for fear of endangering capital
Per the geographic distributions comment, Yozora Mel was stalked long before hololive had a western audience, matsuri and rushia were bullied last week by her Japanese fans last week, and so on
This is a longstanding policy of cowardice on cover's behalf for years making itself manifest in myriad ways now
Oh, I mean that Hololive is more popular overseas and Nijisanji is much more popular in Japan. Haven't verified that other stuff.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
And is not for a lack of trying. Kiara set up a Minecraft stream with her character's illustrator, huke. It went down in flames caused by a stream of incel rage. So is difficult for them to host the collab, is easier to just be the guest, like Mori going to the Trash Taste podcast.
Yeah I corrected myself and added on, sorry I didn't catch that!
I do think there is something to be evaluated in Coco and other hololive talent actively beginning to court the reddit fanbase last year but I think that is a separate issue from cover's unwillingness to protect talent, or at least an ancillary piece of the puzzle