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UAP/UFO Phenomenon: It's not aliens, until it is.
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There is an ever-growing interest in finally figuring out what is behind the recent wave of incredibly well documented Unknown Aerial Phenomena (UAP) seen over the last decade. With ever more increasingly sensitive eyes in the sky, we're seeing objects in the sky apparently behave in ways that are beyond our current known level of technology. We've seen videos of tic-tac shaped objects that emit no reaction heat on thermal sensors, yet are capable of moving at incredible speeds and vectors. There are supposedly even remains of such craft in government custody. The scientific community has spent decades begging for the opportunity to examine and analyze everything we have. The enduring campaign of misdirection and misinformation from the US Government has made any such attempts impossible. That might all be changing.
Not since Project Blue Book has so much public interest been expressed, across the political spectrum, in finally figuring out what is behind this. All the cold war era "government spooks" are no longer in the system. The culture has changed and a new generation is interested in finally getting to the bottom of it.
To this end, the US government has created a bipartisan investigation with the aim to inform the public.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-government-expands-ufo-investigations-new-group-forms-pilots-spot-rcna87127
While projects like Breakthrough Listen are leveraging the sheer vast quantity of data collection points available these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Listen.
Not since Project Blue Book has so much public interest been expressed, across the political spectrum, in finally figuring out what is behind this. All the cold war era "government spooks" are no longer in the system. The culture has changed and a new generation is interested in finally getting to the bottom of it.
To this end, the US government has created a bipartisan investigation with the aim to inform the public.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-government-expands-ufo-investigations-new-group-forms-pilots-spot-rcna87127
While projects like Breakthrough Listen are leveraging the sheer vast quantity of data collection points available these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Listen.
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There are current theoretical frameworks for apparently reactionless gravidic engines. I was very careful in my phrasing here. Being apparently reactionless doesn't mean there is no reaction mass/energy moving around. It just means that the thermal camera on a jet can't see it. Creating such a drive would require negative mass and magnetic monopoles, both of which are exotic beyond definition, and may be impossible to fully realize. However there is a basic theory for their creation. If a bose-einstein condensate has an external magnetic field applied to it in just the right way, it can begin to resemble a monopole. Similarly, we've observed a negative mass effect between 2 semiconductors in a lab. I'm not saying you can go straight from a strange effect observed in a lab to a spaceship with the snap of one's fingers. It's more like going from a theoretical framework for nuclear criticality to the Chicago Pile-1 test.
We're running out of mundane explanations for these sightings. There's too much documented evidence for malfunctioning observation equipment and unreliable witnesses to explain it all away. I'm not ready to accept that aliens are visiting us. If it's not aliens than it has to be something made here on earth. The natural explanations strain credibility even more than the man-made ones do.
It's just like, ugh, no. If you were able to build something once, someone else is going to be able to figure it out. There is no can't be replicated only I know how breakthrough, because everyone is working from the same principles and framework.
What are you talking about, American democracy is right there to disprove this
(This is sarcasm)
That's a really good point. The tic tac has to be something that apparently reflects radar, visible light, and emits blackbody radiation. But we're probably a lot closer to creating a hologram that can emit light in ways that resemble reflected light than a reactionless drive. The debris are a little harder to explain with this, though.
Also radar ghosts :P
Many of these objects were observed by ground and sea forces. The USS Nimitz encounters can not be explained away by moving too fast because the picked up whatever it was on ship's radar before dispatching fighters to investigate. In fact, multiple ships picked up the object on radar and optical. It stayed in the air longer than any of our fighters could manage, too. Radar ghosts also can't explain the object shot down by the Alaskan coast. So far all we've been told on that one is that it was the size of a sadan, had no visible means of propulsion and bore no resemblance to a balloon. The navy claims it was unable to recover the debris but who knows what they aren't telling us. The whole thing's been classified so FOIA request are being denied.
This doesn't necessarily mean anything other than "the system that the info is gathered on is classified and giving up the goods would give away too much info on how that system works" or something equally innocuous. This goes back to a conversation that ALMOST happened but no one really disagreed with in the other thread of the idea that too much stuff is by default classified.
Beyond that, the lack of a known explanation doesn't mean "we are running out" of explanations or the like, it just means we haven't got one that fits the data. That's not how science works.
I couldn't find another thread when I did a search. I would have posted there if I didn't miss it. Could you link that thread? I'm happy to request this thread be closed.
Though to be fair it got shitty at the end and I actually assumed it had been closed
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NOW you tell me? Would have been nice to know when I was younger. So are we talking a Superman situation (just without the super powers) or a Scully from X-Files situation?
On a serious note, I'll just flag the thread and let the mods decide its fate.
You fool. You've fallen for their trap. The foil hat actually AMPLIFIES the mind control signal.
Aluminum, ALUMINUM foil amplifies our signal...errr...
Obviously the more exciting possibility would be actual no-shit probes from another civilization.
That's so fucking cool holy shit
I think you could be forgiven for thinking aliens. I can only imagine what this might look like to a pilot flying near it. Totally bizarre, impossibly fast movements.
But it's ice crystals caught in a rapidly changing electromagnetic field above a thunderstorm.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/06/20/jupiter-lightning-nasa-juno-green-light/70336757007/