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[Social Media] The Thread

DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
edited July 26 in Debate and/or Discourse
Twitter Continues To Have A Twitter Problem: Opened October 2017, Closed July 2020

Social Media: The Intersection Of Money, Policy, And Hate: Opened July 2020, Closed February 2022

Social Media: Our Blasted Digital Hellscape: Opened February 2022, Closed November 6th, 2022

The Fall Of The House Of Social Media: Opened November 6th, 2022, Closed December 7th, 2022

It has been a Long year The Last Month in Social Media: Opened December 2022, Closed April 2023, devolved into talking about hops.

A thread plugged straight into [Social Media]'s Brain, It's filled with musk: Opened April 2023, Closed August 2023, Despite my slander, @Commander Zoom had nothing to do with its closing.

[Social Media]: THREAT OR MENACE? ¿Por que no los dos? Opened August 2023, Closed April 2024, has run its course, but is JK Rowlings evil? The answer won't suprise you.

And now we start a new Social Media Thread, because the social media's were a mistake, one we should talk about, hit me up on usenet: alt.talk.penny-arcade.the.wang (For those 3 people still on Usenet: My ISP doesn't support Usenet, and asking for it would only cause confusion for some poor helpdesk worker)

Active discussion seemed to have drifted a bit to J.K. Rowling, where the consensus was: "J.K. Rowling is pretty evil, but is buying the video game?" but on request of @Jacobkosh, that should probably be discussed further somewhere else.

Because here we talk about Them Twitters, Them Fediverses and the bluesky's. We would talk about Threads, but nothing seems to be happening in there.
Also, Instagrams, Tik-toks, China no longer owning Tik-Tok, All these and more... maybe.




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  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 16
    MorganV wrote: »
    I kinda want to check out the Nov22 thread that lasted a month.

    And yet, I'm hesitant to delve into a thread that spawned an estimated 4000 posts in just over 30 days.

    Yeah, the threads go wildly up and down, and can get very spicy at times.
    I've updated the last 2 with opening and closing dates too, now that I know at least one person appreciates it.

    Dibbit on
  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    I kinda want to check out the Nov22 thread that lasted a month.

    And yet, I'm hesitant to delve into a thread that spawned an estimated 4000 posts in just over 30 days.

    That was the, "Elon did what?" month where he had H1B visa workers held hostage inside the twitter offices and fired every employee who knew how twitter worked

  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited April 16
    This might've been discussed, or it might've been eclipsed by other news, but Twitter is going to charge a small fee the first 3 months to be able to post (by Forbes Article)

    This... seems the wrong way around, you want to make it easy to on board, and then once they're hooked, you start the monitizing.
    Elon has stated the official reason being that he wants to do this to stop the flood of bots. Something he, according to his alt accounts, already completely stopped at least thrice.

    I really hope it finally puts a death knell on the site. It's already an barely usable cess-pool, and if you aren't logged in, mostly unusable. But it still seems to be flopping along, being all Edgy.

    Dibbit on
  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    Elon, my brother in Christ, the bots are already inside your walled-in garden.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    1) Sign up bot
    2) Wait three months
    3) Profit

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Small update: There seem to be conflicting stories going around.
    On Twitter, it's reported "3 months" while the forbes article just states "Like in New Zealand, every user will just have to pay $1 yearly"
    So, since clear communication from his companies is not something "Elon does" we'll see what happens.
    If he forces everyone to pay a dollar, he'd lose a lot of people immediatly. I don't know what the bounce rate would be for that, but asking for a CC number is one of the highest barriers you can put up.

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  • ZibblsnrtZibblsnrt Registered User, Moderator mod
    1) Sign up bot
    2) Wait three months
    3) Profit

    Or just pay the fee. Spam and related things is big business, and for the larger actors paying posting fees for a few thousand bots is dig-between-the-couch-cushions money.

  • archivistkitsunearchivistkitsune Registered User regular
    Another thing worth touching on, even though it was very brief. Is that at one point, for a brief time, Twitter was truncated certain web addresses, in a way that could have been very easily taken advantage of by scammers. Basically, some idiot, probably Musk, had the brilliant idea that with the whole pivot to X, anytime a twitter.com address was mentioned, it would replace twitter.com with x.com.

    Sure it got patch really damn quickly before anyone could do much with it, that we know of. It's possible that some number of people did get fucked over. Of course, the dipshit musk fan boys are jumping into the comment sections of that site, accusing the blogger of not liking Musk because "durhurhur it are patched and are done fast!" Missing the whole point that this shit shouldn't have happened to begin with, proper evaluation of how shit works, should have gotten that shit shut down real quick because it doesn't take a brian surgeon to realize that some asshole would register netflitwitter.com really fucking quick, to try and successfully phish up a shit ton of credit card numbers and other user information that could be sold, since Twitter would have happily run with changing that to Netflix.com.

    I suspect as I dive deeper into boosting my cybersecurity knowledge, ideally to maybe land a job somewhere. I'll probably see a shit ton of Musk's bullshit showing up in various resources that track current events in cybersecurity. I'm making it a point to build up a library of sources to check and to check a few each day, just to try and stay current.

    As for the broader view, it bodes very poorly for how things are going to go if Twitter could make such a blunder and have it go live for any amount of time. Again, even before I started doing self study and making use of free resources, I understood that you don't fucking give scammers easy access to spoofing stuff so it looks legitimate; especially, when you're suppose to be a trusted website. This is fucking like pre-Cybersecurity 100 and Tiwtter failed it real fucking hard.

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    I'm just going to put it out there that I think the thread title is in poor taste given the arguments re: trans folks and their opinions on JKR that just happened in the previous iteration of this thread.

    I get the joke, but it also reads like kind of a jab.

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • JokermanJokerman Registered User regular
    I'm just going to put it out there that I think the thread title is in poor taste given the arguments re: trans folks and their opinions on JKR that just happened in the previous iteration of this thread.

    I get the joke, but it also reads like kind of a jab.

    Also since the OP says we're not discussing it here per mod decree.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Biden gets a genuinely nice burn in on the Truth Media stock freefall:
    If Trump's stock in his Truth Social company drops any lower, he might do better under my tax plan than his.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited April 16
    eh, the intersection of what Musk mismanages and what professionl Cyber security people do on daily basis is kinda small.

    Tesla built in something dumb to their new monstrosity, point and laugh because that's very effectively segmented from the PCI scoped servers and the company doesn't own any cars.

    X had a vulnerability that made links slightly more dangerous. Well, everything on social media is dangerous, and probably not as bad as Google's ad feed. Where someone clicks on a malicious link isn't that interesting, unless it targets your company.

    in both cases you mostly just point and laugh, and maybe see if you can get your CISO to okay blocking Twitter.

    Security stuff does get posted there, but you would be better served checking Bleeping Computer or whatever, unless their is someone you are specifically interested in. Big security stuff makes the news everywhere, and minor stuff you're better off checking for new CVEs.

    redx on
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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    I changed the thread subtitle to something anodyne. Feel free to give it a little more flavor if you'd like, but we're not going with what was there before.

  • ArchangleArchangle Registered User regular
    I vote for "[SOCIAL MEDIA] Something Anodyne"

  • DibbitDibbit Registered User, Transition Team regular
    I'm just going to put it out there that I think the thread title is in poor taste given the arguments re: trans folks and their opinions on JKR that just happened in the previous iteration of this thread.

    I get the joke, but it also reads like kind of a jab.

    Well, that was never the intention, let me know if there is a fun title I can change it into.

  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out, and now I keep seeing the word Anodyne EVERYWHERE.

  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    I saw anodyne a lot after Dan Olson used it to describe 1960's Disney output

  • ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out, and now I keep seeing the word Anodyne EVERYWHERE.

    It's almost if seeing something in a social context influences you to internalize and repeat what you've seen and... OH SHIT

  • Mc zanyMc zany Registered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out, and now I keep seeing the word Anodyne EVERYWHERE.

    See also: pacific rim and kaiju.

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    1) Sign up bot
    2) Wait three months
    3) Profit

    You mean what spammers have already been doing on web forums for some 25 years?

  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 17
    I used to have a bookmarks folder with shady-looking accounts that posted once in 2018 that I went through every now and then. Turns out that shit is tedious.

    And in other news, I'm seeing posts on Threads about Threads that Threads is apparently (on Threads) sending notifications to muted users when you mute them? And possibly also block them?

    Awesome.

    edit: that seems to be rage bait, until actually proven.

    Echo on
  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    I saw anodyne a lot after Dan Olson used it to describe 1960's Disney output

    Which is hilarious because I recently saw that video, and put it into the mental 'everyone is saying that word' file folder.

  • FANTOMASFANTOMAS Flan ArgentavisRegistered User regular
    Mc zany wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out, and now I keep seeing the word Anodyne EVERYWHERE.

    See also: pacific rim and kaiju.

    So true, I keep seeing the word Rim everywhere now.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    Pacific Rim is a blast but swear half that movie is "MAKO!!!!!"

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited April 17
    Mc zany wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out, and now I keep seeing the word Anodyne EVERYWHERE.

    See also: pacific rim and kaiju.

    It's not even accurate! Kaiju just means monster! Bigfoot and the chupacabra would count as a kaiju! Guys like Godzilla are daikaiju! (Big Monster).

    Undead Scottsman on
  • cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    i truly do not understand what the point of the bots even is. surely it doesn't make...any sort of money? like what possibly could the purpose of them be?

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  • DiscoPirateBunnyDiscoPirateBunny CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Clifford the Big Red Dog is also a kaiju. :P

    "Let's take a look at the scores! The girls are at the square root of Pi, while the boys are still at a crudely drawn picture of a duck. Clearly, it's anybody's game!"
  • mrondeaumrondeau Montréal, CanadaRegistered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    i truly do not understand what the point of the bots even is. surely it doesn't make...any sort of money? like what possibly could the purpose of them be?

    Propaganda, scams and scammy advertising. Some people will believe anything they see on social media, if it comes from someone of their tribe, or if they really, really want to.
    This can be used to extract money directly, or with a pump and dump, for example.

  • CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    Mc zany wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out, and now I keep seeing the word Anodyne EVERYWHERE.

    See also: pacific rim and kaiju.

    It's not even accurate! Kaiju just means monster! Bigfoot and the chupacabra would count as a kaiju! Guys like Godzilla are daikaiju! (Big Monster).

    Hey! If Japanese can have katakana English, then English gets to do the reverse!

  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited April 17
    Look, you just need to get into the crypto sphere and follow the right Finfluencers who will point you to when ElonDogeFuckCoin will moon and you'll hodl your way to heaven and lambos with $42069 apiece pricetag!

    Edit: sorry, I think I was having a stroke, or someone is burning toast in the lunchroom, either way I should probably check this out.

    Forar on
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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Forar wrote: »
    Look, you just need to get into the crypto sphere and follow the right Finfluencers who will point you to when ElonDogeFuckCoin will moon and you'll hodl your way to heaven and lambos with $42069 apiece pricetag!

    Edit: sorry, I think I was having a stroke, or someone is burning toast in the lunchroom, either way I should probably check this out.

    You need to sit down and drink your slurp juice so you can get back to having diamond hands.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    i truly do not understand what the point of the bots even is. surely it doesn't make...any sort of money? like what possibly could the purpose of them be?

    Propaganda and scams

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    lol this is not chat

    Are you sure?

  • rndmherorndmhero Registered User regular
    mrondeau wrote: »
    cursedking wrote: »
    i truly do not understand what the point of the bots even is. surely it doesn't make...any sort of money? like what possibly could the purpose of them be?

    Propaganda, scams and scammy advertising. Some people will believe anything they see on social media, if it comes from someone of their tribe, or if they really, really want to.
    This can be used to extract money directly, or with a pump and dump, for example.

    There was a good story in the NYT (?) back when Twitter was still Twitter about companies that would farm up hundreds of thousands of "normal" looking accounts and then sell to celebrities, politicians, etc to boost follower counts. So you could pay some amount of money to get an extra 50k, 100k, 500k etc followers to your account, because people thought that metric mattered. There were rumors (I don't know how well substantiated) that up to half of Trumps followers at one point were thought to be bots.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    cursedking wrote: »
    i truly do not understand what the point of the bots even is. surely it doesn't make...any sort of money? like what possibly could the purpose of them be?

    Within hours of the Bondi Junction knife attack, there were suspected China-linkes bot accounts on Twitter amplifying up disinformation about it on all sides - i.e. that it was a Jewish attack or that it was targeting Jews.

    The bots have been run as an "increase social disharmony" measure by hostile governments for a while now.

    Note "amplify" though: the goal isn't any one narrative, it's "weaken the west" and the method is to boost the loudest, organic content in this category.

    Americans come up with their own fringe conspiracies, the bots ensure they get all the attention they need.

    This is the same shit the Russians are up to. It's all part of a strategy of weakening their rivals and discrediting non-authoritarian governance.

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