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  • GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    I vaguely remember that, back when some buddies tried to get me into MUDs which were text based MMORPGs that needed some special client that you had to crack or use a worse free one.

  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    That's a deep cut like Nation States, the Jennifer Government game.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    I meant to be apologising for my daft country effectively imposing legislation on the rest of the world.

  • GilgaronGilgaron Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    I meant to be apologising for my daft country effectively imposing legislation on the rest of the world.

    Don't worry, my daft country does it all the time!

  • Space PickleSpace Pickle Registered User regular
    hahaha I remember both Nation States and the epic Penny Arcade Urban Dead clan!

  • ArchangleArchangle Registered User regular
    Gilgaron wrote: »
    I vaguely remember that, back when some buddies tried to get me into MUDs which were text based MMORPGs that needed some special client that you had to crack or use a worse free one.
    As an unrepentant mudder, you didn't NEED a special client - older versions of Windows had Telnet built into them, and it was perfectly serviceable.

    If you wanted other features, such as triggers, macros, secondary windows, or - heaven forbid - automapping, then yes - you needed a specialised client like zmud, gmud, or tintin/wintin.

  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    Not a site I was familiar with.

    On behalf of the not-batshit-insane part of the UK population, I sincerely apologise to the world.

    Browser-based persistent zombie survival mmo. When you die you're a zombie until you get revived via... something.

    Fun for a week, but it was one of those "earn energy while logged off" kind of games that incentivizes you to forget about it. Mission Accomplished, I suppose, because I seem to have done that.

    All I really remember was that if you died holding a crowbar and wearing a helmet + flak vest: then you were going to be a real problem when you got back up, and that was the dream.

    Old enough to basically be a predecessor to the plague of Facebook/mobile games that charge you for turns. You could play for free and just let your turns/energy/whatever refresh on whatever time cycle (days, minimum)... or you could pay silly amounts of money to get basically infinite turns so you could utterly annihilate any of the non-paying players. Poor free players were basically playing a different game, one where the paying players could just cruise through and wreck your shit and you just had to kinda shrug and move on.

  • kaidkaid Registered User regular
    Archangle wrote: »
    Gilgaron wrote: »
    I vaguely remember that, back when some buddies tried to get me into MUDs which were text based MMORPGs that needed some special client that you had to crack or use a worse free one.
    As an unrepentant mudder, you didn't NEED a special client - older versions of Windows had Telnet built into them, and it was perfectly serviceable.

    If you wanted other features, such as triggers, macros, secondary windows, or - heaven forbid - automapping, then yes - you needed a specialised client like zmud, gmud, or tintin/wintin.

    Honestly if you did mud at all you were going to get something like zmud like I used. Trying to use it just plain was a total pain and once I figured out Zmud and the mapper stuff it became SOOOO much better. But yes any basic telnet client like Putty or the built in windows one could let you access it.

  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    Maybe mudders Should repent

  • scherbchenscherbchen Asgard (it is dead)Registered User regular
    You can’t do that to my people

  • kaidkaid Registered User regular
    Maybe mudders Should repent

    I tried but my map got messed up so I am trying to find the right room.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
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  • ArchangleArchangle Registered User regular
    Lotta people fastwalking into death traps around here.

  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    I have realized that the main thing I use Facebook for is that my family uses Messenger, and most of us put our family pictures up there. It's nice to be able to see each other's pictures and also just kind of convenient to have my own pictures in one easy to access place. Yes, privacy, I get it. But still.

    I might be able to convince my siblings to move somewhere new but it would need to have that kind of functionality. My impression is that Bluesky is more like Twitter than like Facebook. Is there somewhere else that puts a priority on easily-organized albums with a feed that gives you updates when people add to albums? Or does Bluesky have that?

    Dredging this back up as I've been thinking about it again. Mastodon/Pixelfed is looking more like a Facebook alternative than Bluesky/Flashes now that both have had a little time to breathe. I think I can import my photos en masse and maybe even keep the albums they were in. I'm not totally understanding the Servers concept but it seems like it doesn't really matter what server I join?

    Anyway if we do have any Mastodon users here, I'd welcome any advice on things I should know going in.

  • Space PickleSpace Pickle Registered User regular
    Yeah, I had no problem pressing delete on facebook 6 years ago but it was really hard to let go of messenger.

  • Bizarro EchoBizarro Echo ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    I'm not totally understanding the Servers concept but it seems like it doesn't really matter what server I join?

    tl;dr it's kinda-sorta like email if you squint at it. You can follow people from other servers than your own, not just "gmail.com".

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  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    I know this sounds horrible but Facebook is currently the only place where most of my family pictures live, and even if I saved them to a hard drive they wouldn't be doing anything there. That's the only thing keeping me on Facebook right now.

    Messenger is probably inescapable for me unless I can win my family over to wherever I go; even then I'll still probably keep an account to communicate with people for whom that's the only way I can do so.

    But even if I still have an account, if I can manage to move my usage somewhere else, I can delete the app and stop myself from scrolling.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    I know this sounds horrible but Facebook is currently the only place where most of my family pictures live, and even if I saved them to a hard drive they wouldn't be doing anything there. That's the only thing keeping me on Facebook right now.

    I confess I don't really get this, but I grew up when family photographs lived in albums - physical books - and they didn't really "do" anything there.

  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    Mainly just "be easily searchable by myself or others, and not easily lost or damaged"

  • SixSix Tech Sargent Chen Registered User regular
    Why do your pictures need to *do* anything?

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    Because I'd rather not send an email to my family members whenever we go to the zoo or the dog does something funny?

    Like, it's not a hill I need to die on but being able to arrange pictures and share them with people is fairly basic functionality that I am hoping I can find apart from the baggage of Facebook.

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    Because I'd rather not send an email to my family members whenever we go to the zoo or the dog does something funny?

    Like, it's not a hill I need to die on but being able to arrange pictures and share them with people is fairly basic functionality that I am hoping I can find apart from the baggage of Facebook.
    Maybe try out Pixelfed? Not like Facebook, but it's designed to be an analog to Instagram, which is somewhat better for photos anyway.

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  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    I send cool/funny stuff to friends for them to look at via Discord or, almost as often, dropping the link in IRC.
    Yes, IRC. in 2025.

  • SixSix Tech Sargent Chen Registered User regular
    Because I'd rather not send an email to my family members whenever we go to the zoo or the dog does something funny?

    Like, it's not a hill I need to die on but being able to arrange pictures and share them with people is fairly basic functionality that I am hoping I can find apart from the baggage of Facebook.

    There are plenty of ways to arrange and share photos that aren't facebook.

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    Six wrote: »
    Because I'd rather not send an email to my family members whenever we go to the zoo or the dog does something funny?

    Like, it's not a hill I need to die on but being able to arrange pictures and share them with people is fairly basic functionality that I am hoping I can find apart from the baggage of Facebook.

    There are plenty of ways to arrange and share photos that aren't facebook.

    I assumed so, which is why I have been asking for advice to that end, with the expressly stated intention of leaving Facebook.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    I didn't see an actual question there, just an assertion that you couldn't leave because ... and then a bunch of stuff that made no sense to me.
    Do you want suggestions for alternatives? Maybe be a little clearer there.

  • VontreVontre Registered User regular
    My family just shares photos over an SMS group message.

  • SixSix Tech Sargent Chen Registered User regular
    Six wrote: »
    Because I'd rather not send an email to my family members whenever we go to the zoo or the dog does something funny?

    Like, it's not a hill I need to die on but being able to arrange pictures and share them with people is fairly basic functionality that I am hoping I can find apart from the baggage of Facebook.

    There are plenty of ways to arrange and share photos that aren't facebook.

    I assumed so, which is why I have been asking for advice to that end, with the expressly stated intention of leaving Facebook.

    You didn't actually ask for alternatives, you just said you can't leave facebook.

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • kaidkaid Registered User regular
    Biggest inertia point for Facebook for me is the lack of desire to teach family in their 80s how to use something new. Could it be done maybe. Is it worth the days and days and days worth of on going reteaching them to do the thing you just taught them to do meh.

  • RatherDashingRatherDashing Registered User regular
    I have realized that the main thing I use Facebook for is that my family uses Messenger, and most of us put our family pictures up there. It's nice to be able to see each other's pictures and also just kind of convenient to have my own pictures in one easy to access place. Yes, privacy, I get it. But still.

    I might be able to convince my siblings to move somewhere new but it would need to have that kind of functionality. My impression is that Bluesky is more like Twitter than like Facebook. Is there somewhere else that puts a priority on easily-organized albums with a feed that gives you updates when people add to albums? Or does Bluesky have that?

    Dredging this back up as I've been thinking about it again. Mastodon/Pixelfed is looking more like a Facebook alternative than Bluesky/Flashes now that both have had a little time to breathe. I think I can import my photos en masse and maybe even keep the albums they were in. I'm not totally understanding the Servers concept but it seems like it doesn't really matter what server I join?

    Anyway if we do have any Mastodon users here, I'd welcome any advice on things I should know going in.
    I didn't see an actual question there, just an assertion that you couldn't leave because ... and then a bunch of stuff that made no sense to me.
    Do you want suggestions for alternatives? Maybe be a little clearer there.
    Six wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    Because I'd rather not send an email to my family members whenever we go to the zoo or the dog does something funny?

    Like, it's not a hill I need to die on but being able to arrange pictures and share them with people is fairly basic functionality that I am hoping I can find apart from the baggage of Facebook.

    There are plenty of ways to arrange and share photos that aren't facebook.

    I assumed so, which is why I have been asking for advice to that end, with the expressly stated intention of leaving Facebook.

    You didn't actually ask for alternatives, you just said you can't leave facebook.

    Did you guys miss my actual post? I did not say I can't leave Facebook and literally started the whole thing by asking for alternatives so I can leave Facebook.

  • SixSix Tech Sargent Chen Registered User regular
    I did miss that, yes. Next time make sure I see it, jerk.

    can you feel the struggle within?
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited March 24
    Hey, so, did I miss it or did this thread (that I forgot existed) never get around to talking about Careless People?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Careless_People

    It's the book by Sarah Wynn-Williams, former global policy director at Facebook that Facebook is going to absolutely crazy lengths to try and shutdown which is leading, of course, to a big old Streisand effect. Wynn-Williams can't promote the book because of the gag order a judge placed on her and Facebook is apparently like harassing individual reporters to not talk about it but the thing is flying off the shelves.

    And that's because it's full of stories about the bonkers immoral behaviour of all the people running the place and the things they've gotten up to. I tried to find a good non-paywalled article on it but they are pretty thin on the ground.

    Of the many things mentioned in the book, probably the biggest is the lengths Facebook was willing to go to break into China. They were offering the CCP full control of censorship on the platform in China and also the ability to suppress what the Chinese government decided was unacceptable viral content in Hong Kong and Taiwan. Along with full access to all user data. They even took down the page of a chinese dissident living in the US to try and curry favour with Xi. And on like that. The Chinese of course nodded their heads and said "very good" and then gave Zuckerberg nothing in return. Which is what all his people like Wynn-Williams were telling him would happen. They lied to Congress about all this when Zuckerberg et all were dragged in to talk about it.

    Other related things were a complete lack of caring by the people at the top about their role in the genocide in Myanmar even as it was happening. Their own people were telling them they needed to stop what was happening and they were like "eh".

    There's also a bunch in there about Facebook's coverup of the utter monstrosity that is their marketing program. Their marketing people openly tell the companies they are trying to sell ad-space to that they will target minors at emotionally vulnerable moments in order to better push your product. Is that 13 year old feeling bad about her self-image right now? We'll let you slam her feed with beauty product ads. When this leaked to the press, Facebook pretended it was a one-off rogue thing while internally saying they advertised this kind of service all the time but don't leave a papertrail letting people know that.

    There's a ton of other stuff in here ranging from the standardly monstrous to the just pathetic. Lots of sexual harassment stuff from both Kaplan and Sandberg (reporting this is what got Wynn-Williams fired). Zuckerberg being an amoral piece of shit who loves Andrew Jackson and also a guy who you have to let win at Settlers of Catan. And so on.

    Nothing we didn't already know or suspect but there's a lot more details then we had before revealing the full extent of this shit. There's a whistleblower complaint she's also filed about the outright illegal shit mentioned in the book. But the really big stuff is yet more confirmation of the extent of what these platforms can and will do with the information they have on us and their control of what people see.

    shryke on
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Couldn't she find a better podcast to go on then Steve Bannon?

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Couldn't she find a better podcast to go on then Steve Bannon?

    She appeared a few other places, including NPR I believe, before the injunction forced her to cancel all her other appearances.

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