Mel Brooks movies are so deeply connected to his personal brand that, more than almost any other movie, remaking or sequeling them is just utterly bankrupt. It's not Spaceballs if Mel isn't making it.
"But he's producing it!" The guy is 97. They can bolt his name onto it but you're not convincing me he's having a meaningful enough impact to say the film is "made by" him.
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MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
edited June 22
Yes for better or worse, he is the movies he makes.
Someone came up with a "comedy in space" script and stuck The Joker Spaceballs on it to farm those rememberries.
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The best way another Spaceballs movie could parody Star Wars at this point would be to simply make a good movie.
Parody rarely lends itself to sequels. I can't think of too many other than Naked Gun, Austin Powers, Hot Shots Part Deux, Airplane 2, and Scary Movie. And those were all done in the same time period so were parodying the same era of movies and with the same actors so they all have a similar look and tone to them. Making an unnecessary sequel to Spaceballs four decades later with different actors, a completely different era of source movies, and almost certainly a modern look to it, it's not going to look or feel like a sequel to the original.
Spaceballs was also primarily a parody of Star Wars, so that basically locks you in to needing to primarily parody Star Wars again. How do you parody Rise of Skywalker when it's already a joke? "Somehow Skroob returned." and dangle a 97 year old Mel Brooks in a bathrobe from the end of a crane?
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
Parody rarely lends itself to sequels. I can't think of too many other than Naked Gun, Austin Powers, Hot Shots Part Deux, Airplane 2, and Scary Movie. And those were all done in the same time period so were parodying the same era of movies and with the same actors so they all have a similar look and tone to them. Making an unnecessary sequel to Spaceballs four decades later with different actors, a completely different era of source movies, and almost certainly a modern look to it, it's not going to look or feel like a sequel to the original.
Spaceballs was also primarily a parody of Star Wars, so that basically locks you in to needing to primarily parody Star Wars again. How do you parody Rise of Skywalker when it's already a joke? "Somehow Skroob returned." and dangle a 97 year old Mel Brooks in a bathrobe from the end of a crane?
Someone more familiar with the greater universe could dig into the Filoni related stuff. Main protagonist could be Joan Wolf, nomad.
Every time a new character shows up, everyone else knows them because of that thing that happened outside of the movie.
Even still you could get more meta and have ships teleporting instead of hyperspace travel, a character with half a dozen fake outs, the protagonist able to do anything ten seconds after encountering it - force powers, alien languages, making a souffle.
It'd be unwatchable but you could do a lot.
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Parody rarely lends itself to sequels. I can't think of too many other than Naked Gun, Austin Powers, Hot Shots Part Deux, Airplane 2, and Scary Movie. And those were all done in the same time period so were parodying the same era of movies and with the same actors so they all have a similar look and tone to them. Making an unnecessary sequel to Spaceballs four decades later with different actors, a completely different era of source movies, and almost certainly a modern look to it, it's not going to look or feel like a sequel to the original.
Spaceballs was also primarily a parody of Star Wars, so that basically locks you in to needing to primarily parody Star Wars again. How do you parody Rise of Skywalker when it's already a joke? "Somehow Skroob returned." and dangle a 97 year old Mel Brooks in a bathrobe from the end of a crane?
A big reason that comedy in general, but parody specifically isn't great at sequels is because a) you presumably told all your jokes in the first film and b) parody is usually about something contemporary, so as time goes on, it gets stale.
This was discussed in the parody thread but a lot of great parodies don't derive all or even most of their humor from "this is a thing that happened in a movie, but silly". Some of the best jokes are just fun silliness that's not related to the thing they are parodying at all.
We also live in an age of collegehumor sketches and YouTube videos essays, meaning every single joke or observation you could make about any specific property has already been made, and a parody movie is going to be way late to that party.
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I need to rewatch this, I remember being confused about it as a kid but I did like the sets, it felt the right amount of believable but comical at the same time. And it seems the sets still exist because they built real houses!
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I think the best hope for a Spaceballs sequel is that it has basically nothing to do with Mel Brooks and is just a talented cast and crew doing some kind of parody of something with their own vibe.
The idea of "Star Wars themed parody" isn't inherently doomed to failure, but "a bunch of guys trying to ape the style of Mel Brooks, probably by doing a string of callbacks to the first movie" sure is.
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I think the best hope for a Spaceballs sequel is that it has basically nothing to do with Mel Brooks and is just a talented cast and crew doing some kind of parody of something with their own vibe.
The idea of "Star Wars themed parody" isn't inherently doomed to failure, but "a bunch of guys trying to ape the style of Mel Brooks, probably by doing a string of callbacks to the first movie" sure is.
If they had just announced a scifi parody movie called Space Movie, I'd be excited for it. But specifically a Spaceballs sequel, without Brooks writing or directing, I feel is just going to come across as try-hard and cringe as they try and fail to emulate Brooks.
Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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A classic Mel Brooks hook would be the finale breaking the fourth wall and everyone attacking the studio exec finance bros who keep ruining all these beloved franchises
A classic Mel Brooks hook would be the finale breaking the fourth wall and everyone attacking the studio exec finance bros who keep ruining all these beloved franchises
Keep funding, assholes!
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edited June 22
If you want any indication of how bad something recent with Mel Brooks' name on it is, look no further than the god awful History of the World Part II.
The best bet would be for a new creative team to do something brand new who understand the spirit of a Brooksfilm, a la Black Dynamite.
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
I dunno, Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money is already the joke. That anything gets made fulfills the punchline in a way I can appreciate.
I won't pay to see it, but I will appreciate it exists
MichaelLCIn what furnace was thy brain?ChicagoRegistered Userregular
edited June 24
Inside Out 2 was excellent DLC for Inside Out.
Added some new maps, updated the hub, and introduced a few new characters with upgraded graphics overall.
Contradicted a couple of things from the original, but overall just expanded the story with a new touching campaign.
Edit:
The final arena battle was a litte obvious, but did tie nicely into the the self-contained story.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Blankman (Netflix), I have memories of watching it as a kid on a weekend at my grandparents, having just bought a bunch of comics off the Walgreens spinner rack and reading them while watching it, but on its own this movie sucks fam. That Damon Wayans went from In Living Color, The Last Boyscout, and Mo' Money to this (and he wrote it) shows he was on some good booger sugar. A nerd inventor living with his brother and grandma turning into a crime fighter and neighborhood hero with his stupid inventions could have been a good kids movie, but trying to run as a low budget PG-13 movie is a bad move. Wayans doesn't know how to play the lead nerd role despite Steve Urkel being right there as the template. Even Urkel Bot! The editing is bad, the humor is nonexistant, the pacing is horrible, the forced love triangle between the Vicki Vale of Robyn Givens and David Alan Grier and Wayans is slow and horrible, the guy playing the mayor of the city looks like he's going to break character everytime he's on screen, he can't hold in his smirk going "this is shit." You're so bored you start looking at the background actors who can't even mumble the right words and can see their eyes following the director's assistants telling them where to go or how to chant or rabble rabble.
The only redeeming thing in the movie is George Costanza playing a sleazy wheelchair bound paparazzi editor of a Hard Copy knockoff. He's having fun knowing the movie is shit but if he just plays George meets Born on the Fourth of July he'll be the highlight and it's true. The only fault is despite McDonald's product placement here, Jason Alexander doesn't sing the iconic McD-L-T jingle.
It's a bad movie that wants to mimic the old Adam West Batman but isn't campy enough, clever enough, or committing to the bit enough. Meteor Man is so, so, so much better.
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Tex I got a degree in Criminology because of Blankman and to quote David Arquette in Ready to Rumble
I WILL BUST YOU!
(I haven't seen that move in 20 years but it did have an impact on me as an HBO having yout, I can fully believe it doesn't hold up, and fuck Meteor Man was the better kinda tone deaf superhero movie)
I was driving nowhere in particular not too long ago when I passed a broken down big rig in the middle of the street. Its flip over cab was open, exposing the engine, and there were a cluster of guys all around it scratching their heads.
As I passed, I noticed that oddly there was a large, intact watermelon lying on the ground at their feet.
Almost without thinking, I immediately asked myself "Why is there a watermelon there"
Spent the rest of the day laughing
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"But he's producing it!" The guy is 97. They can bolt his name onto it but you're not convincing me he's having a meaningful enough impact to say the film is "made by" him.
Someone came up with a "comedy in space" script and stuck The Joker Spaceballs on it to farm those rememberries.
Spaceballs was also primarily a parody of Star Wars, so that basically locks you in to needing to primarily parody Star Wars again. How do you parody Rise of Skywalker when it's already a joke? "Somehow Skroob returned." and dangle a 97 year old Mel Brooks in a bathrobe from the end of a crane?
Someone more familiar with the greater universe could dig into the Filoni related stuff. Main protagonist could be Joan Wolf, nomad.
Every time a new character shows up, everyone else knows them because of that thing that happened outside of the movie.
Even still you could get more meta and have ships teleporting instead of hyperspace travel, a character with half a dozen fake outs, the protagonist able to do anything ten seconds after encountering it - force powers, alien languages, making a souffle.
It'd be unwatchable but you could do a lot.
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A big reason that comedy in general, but parody specifically isn't great at sequels is because a) you presumably told all your jokes in the first film and b) parody is usually about something contemporary, so as time goes on, it gets stale.
We also live in an age of collegehumor sketches and YouTube videos essays, meaning every single joke or observation you could make about any specific property has already been made, and a parody movie is going to be way late to that party.
I need to rewatch this, I remember being confused about it as a kid but I did like the sets, it felt the right amount of believable but comical at the same time. And it seems the sets still exist because they built real houses!
The idea of "Star Wars themed parody" isn't inherently doomed to failure, but "a bunch of guys trying to ape the style of Mel Brooks, probably by doing a string of callbacks to the first movie" sure is.
If they had just announced a scifi parody movie called Space Movie, I'd be excited for it. But specifically a Spaceballs sequel, without Brooks writing or directing, I feel is just going to come across as try-hard and cringe as they try and fail to emulate Brooks.
It's obligatory to point out that the guy at the end of that clip is none other than Tim Russ aka Tuvok, who has had things to say about that scene
He's always found it funny that he's more known for 4 words in Spaceballs than his entire run on Star Trek.
Keep funding, assholes!
The best bet would be for a new creative team to do something brand new who understand the spirit of a Brooksfilm, a la Black Dynamite.
I won't pay to see it, but I will appreciate it exists
That's funny, most people would rather everyone forget they were on Voyager.
And then the character's name happened all over my keyboard.
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Added some new maps, updated the hub, and introduced a few new characters with upgraded graphics overall.
Contradicted a couple of things from the original, but overall just expanded the story with a new touching campaign.
Edit:
The only redeeming thing in the movie is George Costanza playing a sleazy wheelchair bound paparazzi editor of a Hard Copy knockoff. He's having fun knowing the movie is shit but if he just plays George meets Born on the Fourth of July he'll be the highlight and it's true. The only fault is despite McDonald's product placement here, Jason Alexander doesn't sing the iconic McD-L-T jingle.
It's a bad movie that wants to mimic the old Adam West Batman but isn't campy enough, clever enough, or committing to the bit enough. Meteor Man is so, so, so much better.
I WILL BUST YOU!
(I haven't seen that move in 20 years but it did have an impact on me as an HBO having yout, I can fully believe it doesn't hold up, and fuck Meteor Man was the better kinda tone deaf superhero movie)
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- Perfect Tommy
- Penny Priddy
- New Jersey
- Rawhide
What a ridiculously stacked cast for such a throughly silly movie
Oh yeah. Get blazed. That film’s weirdness level starts at about an 8 and goes to 11 real quick
As I passed, I noticed that oddly there was a large, intact watermelon lying on the ground at their feet.
Almost without thinking, I immediately asked myself "Why is there a watermelon there"
Spent the rest of the day laughing
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