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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Harrison seems to be willing to star in a lot of things, many of questionable quality, except Star Wars.

    Has he ever mentioned why he loathes Star Wars enough that he request his character
    Get killed off?

    I believe it's mostly because of the fans.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 30
    Harrison seems to be willing to star in a lot of things, many of questionable quality, except Star Wars.

    Has he ever mentioned why he loathes Star Wars enough that he request his character
    Get killed off?
    He wanted Han Solo killed off in Return of the Jedi. He didn't feel there was anything interesting to explore with the character in the drafts for RotJ, and honestly I can't really argue with him. There is no arc or growth for him in the script, it's just him being Classic Han for the viewers.

    Which is not unenjoyable, as a viewer (especially as a kid), but you can understand from an actor's perspective as well.

    Rise of Skywalker spoilers
    He does a hell of a job in his surprise scene. Regardless of how you feel it fits into the film as a whole, it's a great scene in isolation.

    And you can be sure the only reason that scene exists, and he agreed to do it, is because of Carrie Fisher's untimely passing.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited September 30
    Harrison seems to be willing to star in a lot of things, many of questionable quality, except Star Wars.

    Has he ever mentioned why he loathes Star Wars enough that he request his character
    Get killed off?

    To be fair, he clearly doesn't have anything to do in Return of the Jed. Like his and Leia's character arcs are pretty much resolved after the rescue. No offense to Lando but he should have been in the space battle with their separation creating tension.

    *edit* DarkPrimus, that scene feels like it's from a completely different much better movie. So much better it makes the rest of the movie worse in comparison.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Harrison seems to be willing to star in a lot of things, many of questionable quality, except Star Wars.

    Has he ever mentioned why he loathes Star Wars enough that he request his character
    Get killed off?
    He wanted Han Solo killed off in Return of the Jedi. He didn't feel there was anything interesting to explore with the character in the drafts for RotJ, and honestly I can't really argue with him. There is no arc or growth for him in the script, it's just him being Classic Han for the viewers.

    Which is not unenjoyable, as a viewer (especially as a kid), but you can understand from an actor's perspective as well.

    Rise of Skywalker spoilers
    He does a hell of a job in his surprise scene. Regardless of how you feel it fits into the film as a whole, it's a great scene in isolation.

    And you can be sure the only reason that scene exists, and he agreed to do it, is because of Carrie Fisher's untimely passing.

    It does kinda suck that they didn't do more with his character in tFA. The trailers seemed to be conveying this idea that the events of the OT had become somewhat obscured to the general populous. That the part that Jedi and the force had played in ending the Empire had turned more into a legend then a historical event. Han seemed to have become a true believer in a world where seemingly everything else and everyone else and faded away. Like the last hesitant preacher of a dead religion.

    The movie and his character ended up being none of it but I was excited by that idea.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 30
    God, TFA sucked so much

    EDIT: I know that's not where the conversation was but the more I thought about the movie plot points and story beats and the lack of payoff or foresight for anything the more frustrated I got.

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited September 30
    I think the sequel series was shackled by the "they come out in sets of three" thing.

    in much the same way the Sith are shackled by the Rule of Two

    some stuff needs more! some needs less!

    edit: same thing happened to the Hobbit.

    "We [the executives] got three movies worth of shit out of the last one!"

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    The sequel series was shackled by putting a man who has never had an original idea in his life in charge of setting a new narrative.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    The sequel series was shackled by putting a man who has never had an original idea in his life in charge of setting a new narrative.

    Also, they are bad movies. That's the shackliest shackle of all.

  • ManOHokutoManOHokuto Knight of the Bloody Fist Registered User regular
    Except Last Jedi, which was in fact the best

  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    AtomicTofu wrote: »

    This looks great

    The only sad thing is, because this is a Nosferatu adaptation and not a Dracula adaptation, means we will not get Quincey Morris, Cowboy Dracula Hunter

  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    ManOHokuto wrote: »
    Except Last Jedi, which was in fact the best

    I did not stutter.

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    If only JJ had stayed in the world of television...

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Hell yeah, Star Wars sequel discourse. I've missed you so much. It's been weeks!

  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    I think A New Hope is the best Star Wars movie

    Revenge of the Sith is the best Prequel movie

    The Last Jedi is the best Sequel movie

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    We should go back to talking about Hellboy sequels

    Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    has Hellboy ever gone to the moon?

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I like Rian Johnson a lot but I bet he'd be a poor fit for Hellboy

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    my partner has decided the cure to depression is watching all of the star wars films in in-universe chronological order

    help me

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    has Hellboy ever gone to the moon?

    No, but he has met a space alien.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    my partner has decided the cure to depression is watching all of the star wars films in in-universe chronological order

    help me

    This just sounds like a way to get more depressed

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Depression isn't like a rolling integer you don't flip back around to minimum depression once you max it out

  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    The Arrival is on tubi and it is hilarious in the ways it is so old. Like when Charlie Sheen secretly records the alien man revealing his plans. But because this is the 90s it is stored on a literal tape on the camera. So he has to like run to this tree and yank the secret camera out of it and run away, all the while the alien in the skin suit is just. Standing there watching him.

    Also funny how apparently the earth's temp has risen 12 degrees in 7 years and nobody has noticed.


    There talk about absurd dumb silly sci fi.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    my partner has decided the cure to depression is watching all of the star wars films in in-universe chronological order

    help me

    This just sounds like a way to get more depressed

    The Machete order is the only proper way. 4-5-2-3-6.

  • JokermanJokerman Registered User regular
    Saw Joker 2: the return of the joker. And first impressions? It's way better then the first. While it's still desperate to imitate the new Hollywood of the 70s, Phoenix and gaga really bring their a game.

  • JokermanJokerman Registered User regular
    Was weird that there were a lot of children there though.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Magell wrote: »
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    Veldrin wrote: »
    Zach Levi has been a bit of a cringey shitheel since at least the mid-2010s, but I think his death spiral over Shazam 2 probably blipped his conservative arse fully into the light.

    Wasn't he like the guy that lost out to Chris Pratt for Starlord? It feels like I remember some whining about that as well at the time, but that could be me making something up in my head.

    You could be thinking of Glenn Howerton (Dennis from It's Always Sunny).

    man, they really should have had Glenn Howerton play Doom instead of whatever weird RDJ stuff they're doing

    The only positive I can see to RDJ as Doom is that if he does something interesting with the role Disney can't say no to him

    He's gonna be alternate universe Tony Stark and its going to suck.

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  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I still don’t understand how you make a sequel to the original Star Wars trilogy and don’t have a single scene with Han, Chewie, Leia, Luke, C3P0, and R2 in it.

    Not a single god damn scene. They had once chance to do it and fucking missed the window and we’ll never get it now.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    I still don’t understand how you make a sequel to the original Star Wars trilogy and don’t have a single scene with Han, Chewie, Leia, Luke, C3P0, and R2 in it.

    Not a single god damn scene. They had once chance to do it and fucking missed the window and we’ll never get it now.

    I liked how Star Wars Rogue showed more of the universe I have not seen Andor. Without using the main characters of Star Wars. I have not really seen a lot of the disney star wars streaming other than YT clips

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    JJ said that he didn't know what to do with Luke and R2. "They came in and took over the story."
    R2 was fucking robbed.

  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    JJ said that he didn't know what to do with Luke and R2. "They came in and took over the story."
    R2 was fucking robbed.

    Then JJ should have been fucking fired immediately.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I love Rian Johnson and the will also say TLJ is the best Star War but

    I don’t want Rian Johnson’s time taken up making movies from other’s IP.

    Just let him make his movies.

  • MagellMagell Detroit Machine Guns Fort MyersRegistered User regular
    I still don’t understand how you make a sequel to the original Star Wars trilogy and don’t have a single scene with Han, Chewie, Leia, Luke, C3P0, and R2 in it.

    Not a single god damn scene. They had once chance to do it and fucking missed the window and we’ll never get it now.

    That was a good call. It would be the same problem as the EU being too much about one group of people.

  • JokermanJokerman Registered User regular
    I love Rian Johnson and the will also say TLJ is the best Star War but

    I don’t want Rian Johnson’s time taken up making movies from other’s IP.

    Just let him make his movies.

    Rian Johnson is a real Tallent. Best thing he ever did for himself was getting from under the heel of the mouse.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hell yeah, Star Wars sequel discourse. I've missed you so much. It's been weeks!

    I mean this page seems to be of accord

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    I think this is where I repeat my feeling that the cleverest thing the sequel trilogy did, even if it was probably by accident, was to kill off one of the original trilogy's main trio in each movie, in reverse order of when we first saw them in A New Hope.

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Hell yeah, Star Wars sequel discourse. I've missed you so much. It's been weeks!

    This could have been the year of Star Trek discourse!

    You all had your chance!!

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  • Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    edited October 1
    We could be talking instead about how every Non-Coppola cinematic adaptation of Dracula/Nosferatu fucks up by leaving out the Inexplicable Cowboy

    He's the one who names them vampires!!!

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  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    Ketar wrote: »
    “ The Wild Robot is perhaps more for parents than kids. The messages of parenthood and family here are so strong, so potent, so raw. That said, kids will still find plenty to like about the film, too. It's funny and sweet and sad and—despite its futuristic, AI-and-talking-animal conceit—real.”

    I’m fucked…

    I read the book to my kids, a few chapters a night whenever possible. It was the first novel I read to them, after years of much shorter books. They both loved it and I loved reading it to them.

    We're going to see it Monday evening. This is gonna be rough.

    Ok, yeah, that went as expected. Pretty sure the music will be enough to make me tear up just a tad in the future.

    My 13 year old son only made a half dozen or so wisecracks over the length of the movie and actually enjoyed it, which is about as high praise as I can give to a movie that was obviously aimed at both younger and much older audiences than teens. It sounded like he might actually read the third book in the series which just came out about a year ago, much too late after the others for him to be interested until now.

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