Did Ale Garza fall in a coma? He's one of my five favorite artists but his solicited Teen Titans arc has never happened (he got replaced with Eddy Barrows for some unknown reason) and his run on Supergirl was short. I loved how he drew her since he made her actually look 17 and her hair was like a scene girl which was uber-hot. Just wondering where he disappeared to...he talks about his band on his Myspace maybe he's focusing on that but if anyone knows something else could you let me know?
Did Ale Garza fall in a coma? He's one of my five favorite artists but his solicited Teen Titans arc has never happened (he got replaced with Eddy Barrows for some unknown reason) and his run on Supergirl was short. I loved how he drew her since he made her actually look 17 and her hair was like a scene girl which was uber-hot. Just wondering where he disappeared to...he talks about his band on his Myspace maybe he's focusing on that but if anyone knows something else could you let me know?
Whatever happened to Ale Garza was a godsend to Teen Titans. His one big issue was about as inconsistent looking as a current day Scott McDaniel book.
I was selling some comics on ebay lately...essentially anymore I try to sell runs as soon as I start to get stuff thats more than a year old piling up. So I was selling some One Year Later lots and started to make my head hurt by trying to figure out lost year timelines. Am I thinking of Nightwing's timeline right? One month spent recovering from Anti-Matter Blast, 3-4 months training with Bruce & Tim, comes back to Gotham for Christmas, rescues Black Lightning and fakes the Outsiders' deaths, then stops the Fire Pit explosions....Am I doing that right?
So I mainly just follow super-hero comics and due to how much I disliked Garth Ennis' Marvel Knights Punisher and Warren Ellis' work on UFF and smug attitude in general I've never read Preacher, Transmetropolitan, and lots of other 'classic' non-superhero comics. What would the board recommend I read first?
No I've never read any of it. I guess I tend to let personal biases against creators sort of control what I do and don't read. I just can't get around that statement that Vaughan made that all comic book writers should write super-hero comics for a couple of years to get all their 'bad stories out of their system' so that they can write good stuff like creator-owned comics. That statement REALLY BOTHERED ME and I get tired of hipster folks who claim they like comics but the only comic they seem to know the existence of is Y. However, I've liked the opinion of this board for the most part so I might try out some Y. Its ending in January isn't it?
Don't destroy me. Well he certainly didn't act like he liked them when he says things like that. I guess because when I was getting my English degree I had to read so many obscure unheard of authors that I'm almost naturally inclined to avoid indie and non-traditional comics. I did get Fables volume 1-3 for Christmas from my uncle. Maybe I'll read those soon. Ohhh and is it evil for me to HATE HATE HATE HATE The Boys with an undying passion?
Perhaps I did mix them up. I read the first trade of The Boys in a bookstore while waiting for a friend one day. It was even worse than I thought thankfully I never spent money on it. Its one of those things though that even though I hate it I still flip through it on the shelf every time it comes out. I think I'm just into torturing myself. So does anyone have any thoughts on DMZ? That series always looked kind of interesting to me.
It was a great opportunity, but at the end of the day I still would've been writing Cloak And Dagger adventures or finding a way to reinvent Iron Fist. I love those characters. I'm not a superhero snob. I love that stuff and I never begrudge a guy-I'm so grateful for Ultimate Spider-Man because I feel like if and when I have kids I have a Spider-Man that I can show them. So yeah, I think that's important work, but it's just not necessarily what I'm best at. You and I both revere Stan Lee and I just feel like I would rather honor Stan by creating new things like he did than by telling more stories with his characters.
His main beef with the industry, and this is touched on in the quote above, is that so many comic authors are content to just work with other writer's characters for their whole careers without creating anything new, or giving back. This is the dominant theme in his Escapists book. Which is ironic, since he was using another writer's character for that, albeit only in a tangential way. Still, he's hardly the only one with that sentiment. Erik Larsen wrote a terrific, extremely scathing open letter criticizing the comic industry for endlessly recycling characters and stories.
Yeah I read the Erik Larsen letter before. I understood his point perfectly I just thought that it was a sort of funny point to be made by a guy who's been working on the same character for the last 15 years and everytime he'd work on other concepts he'd draw them in an older style without ever giving them any uniqueness (i.e. his runs on Defenders and Nova). But at the end of the day I do think there are some genuinely snobbish unlikeable people working in the comic book industry which isn't surprising since it is the entertainment industry. But back to my questions on new things to read....opinions on DMZ?
It was a great opportunity, but at the end of the day I still would've been writing Cloak And Dagger adventures or finding a way to reinvent Iron Fist. I love those characters. I'm not a superhero snob. I love that stuff and I never begrudge a guy-I'm so grateful for Ultimate Spider-Man because I feel like if and when I have kids I have a Spider-Man that I can show them. So yeah, I think that's important work, but it's just not necessarily what I'm best at. You and I both revere Stan Lee and I just feel like I would rather honor Stan by creating new things like he did than by telling more stories with his characters.
His main beef with the industry, and this is touched on in the quote above, is that so many comic authors are content to just work with other writer's characters for their whole careers without creating anything new, or giving back. This is the dominant theme in his Escapists book. Which is ironic, since he was using another writer's character for that, albeit only in a tangential way. Still, he's hardly the only one with that sentiment. Erik Larsen wrote a terrific, extremely scathing open letter criticizing the comic industry for endlessly recycling characters and stories.
That was also a big driving force behind Runaways, he wanted to create original characters for the Marvel universe that would stick around and become part of the ongoing legacy there.
Guys. I am totally sick of this "I won't read this book because such and such a character is lame" or "I'm not touching that because I hate that writer"
It is all about the good stories, regardless of the characters or the writer. Just as characters can be used for exciting stories or boring ones, writers can do their best work or pay rent.
Basically, stop judging shit based on unreliable indicators: if people here tell you it is good, it is good.
On that note I feel compelled to mention that most of the people here who don't dig on Warren Ellis' recent shit feel this way because of how poorly it compares to his really good earlier stuff like Transmet. Likewise Frank Miller gets a lot of hate because it turned out that really good shit he made his name with was in fact all he's capable of, with everything since a reworking of the same stuff.
well I'd argue that wether or not you've like a writer's past stories is usually (not always) a good indicator of whether you will like other stuff by the same guy.
I've liked 100% of BKV stuff I've read
I've liked 90% of Bendis stuff I've read
I've liked very little of the Ellis stuff I've read
I've liked nothing of Ennis that I have read.
Thus I'm much more likely to read something by the first 2 than the later 2.
Also everyone in this thread needs to go to the nominations thread and make some fucking nominations
Guys. I am totally sick of this "I won't read this book because such and such a character is lame" or "I'm not touching that because I hate that writer"
It is all about the good stories, regardless of the characters or the writer. Just as characters can be used for exciting stories or boring ones, writers can do their best work or pay rent.
Basically, stop judging shit based on unreliable indicators: if people here tell you it is good, it is good.
Some writers are hit and miss, but Judd Winick has been consistently shitty with his mainstream super-hero material (his kid-related stuff like Barry Ween and Juniper Lee have actually been quite awesome), and I've been burnt by him so many times, that I have a perma-ban on buying anything super-related with his name on it.
Also everyone in this thread needs to go to the nominations thread and make some fucking nominations
Eh. It's essentially going to be the big DC events vs. the big Marvel events. I mean, I could go nominate Guy Davis for Best Artist but like three people here read BPRD.
Reading New X-Men, the Grant Morrison run, I actually found myself agreeing with his assessment of the Magneto character. I haven't read too many Magneto stories, though, so I'm wondering if there are any books that will redeem the character in my eyes by portraying something more than a man with silly ambitions bearing ideas of genetic superiority which, ironically, bear a close resemblance to the ideas which fueled the Nazi movement he so loathes.
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Plus the whole thing was
Magneto was fucking high and being manipulated by Sublime the whole time. But Claremont went out of his way to make Magneto more of a Malcom X instead of Hilter. So you know... using him that way is a matter of taste. I don't think he had much use to Morrison in that regard, though. He needed someone to define the X-Men against. The one thing that weirded me out was: Morrison claims up and down that there never was a real Xorn: which is fine, but he never does anything with the whole Magneto hearing Xorn in his head and everyone just not getting that he wasn't real. It's like good having more intrinsic reality than evil. And it went nowhere. As a writer, I would have had a field day with the concept after Morriosn was gone, but they pretty much wasted it.
do we really have to spoiler stories that are like 6 years old and have been for the most part retconned away?
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I do, apparently.
If only because someone might read it because they're a Morrison fan and not an X-Men fan. So you know. They probably wouldn't want to know everything that happens.
I still think Morrison's run is a little overrated. There are a lot of ideas in it I liked, but a lot of stuff that didn't work for me. It's a shame there was that short period of time where Austen had complete control over the X-books because they could have transitioned out the stuff they didnt want to keep a little smoother rather than him just shitting all over it.
I mean its impossible to tell if Austen even read Here Comes Tomorrow. If he did he clearly didnt fucking understand it.
Black Summer, Doktor Sleepless, Thunderbolts, Crecy and Fell are, IMO, on par with any of Ellis' other works. Blackgas was an entertaining read, but of lesser quality. Haven't read Wolfskin yet. Desolation Jones is up there as well, but it's not exactly recent. I did recently read somewhere that Ellis should be going monthly with Desolation Jones in 08 but we'll see if that happens.
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I like Thunderbolts....I'm wondering where the Heck Ellis is pulling some of those obscure characters from...since this is a question thread? Does anyone know who any of those psychics are in the current arc? Also, did it bug anyone else that Bullseye got his ass kicked by a guy I've never heard of called American Eagle?
Black Summer, Doktor Sleepless, Thunderbolts, Crecy and Fell are, IMO, on par with any of Ellis' other works. Blackgas was an entertaining read, but of lesser quality. Haven't read Wolfskin yet.
I agree fully, except Black Summer is not quite as good. It's good, but not the best.
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Whatever happened to Ale Garza was a godsend to Teen Titans. His one big issue was about as inconsistent looking as a current day Scott McDaniel book.
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"One percent."
you should read Y: The Last Man
and Vaughn loves superheros and writes great superhero stuff.
so you shouldnt hate him
or I will destroy you
And no thats a natural reaction because The Boys is awful
I know Ellis said a statement similar to the "Bad Stories" one.
But I wasn't sure.
Yeah, Vaughan's not really anti-superhero.
His main beef with the industry, and this is touched on in the quote above, is that so many comic authors are content to just work with other writer's characters for their whole careers without creating anything new, or giving back. This is the dominant theme in his Escapists book. Which is ironic, since he was using another writer's character for that, albeit only in a tangential way. Still, he's hardly the only one with that sentiment. Erik Larsen wrote a terrific, extremely scathing open letter criticizing the comic industry for endlessly recycling characters and stories.
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That was also a big driving force behind Runaways, he wanted to create original characters for the Marvel universe that would stick around and become part of the ongoing legacy there.
It is all about the good stories, regardless of the characters or the writer. Just as characters can be used for exciting stories or boring ones, writers can do their best work or pay rent.
Basically, stop judging shit based on unreliable indicators: if people here tell you it is good, it is good.
On that note I feel compelled to mention that most of the people here who don't dig on Warren Ellis' recent shit feel this way because of how poorly it compares to his really good earlier stuff like Transmet. Likewise Frank Miller gets a lot of hate because it turned out that really good shit he made his name with was in fact all he's capable of, with everything since a reworking of the same stuff.
Anally.
I've liked 100% of BKV stuff I've read
I've liked 90% of Bendis stuff I've read
I've liked very little of the Ellis stuff I've read
I've liked nothing of Ennis that I have read.
Thus I'm much more likely to read something by the first 2 than the later 2.
Also everyone in this thread needs to go to the nominations thread and make some fucking nominations
Some writers are hit and miss, but Judd Winick has been consistently shitty with his mainstream super-hero material (his kid-related stuff like Barry Ween and Juniper Lee have actually been quite awesome), and I've been burnt by him so many times, that I have a perma-ban on buying anything super-related with his name on it.
Ultimate Extinction was a bit of a let-down, I guess. And those weird-ass Apparat things were kinda hit-and-miss.
Eh. It's essentially going to be the big DC events vs. the big Marvel events. I mean, I could go nominate Guy Davis for Best Artist but like three people here read BPRD.
If only because someone might read it because they're a Morrison fan and not an X-Men fan. So you know. They probably wouldn't want to know everything that happens.
I mean its impossible to tell if Austen even read Here Comes Tomorrow. If he did he clearly didnt fucking understand it.
I havent read any of the others you mentioned though.
I agree fully, except Black Summer is not quite as good. It's good, but not the best.
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