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Tom Cruise is a member of an organization that has actively conspired against the current German Government. I think that gives them a bit of a leeway into denying a member of the organization onto its military bases to film a movie.
How big "the rest" actually is varies from case to case, of course.
Well I know a lot of Mexican (maybe Latin American) producers and directors really hate Antonio Banderas for his portrayal on Latin American historical heroes. Like this one awards show Antonio sang in spanish and Cuaron I am guessing went on stage later on and sang it claiming thats how you do it. Thats the only example I can think of.
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Okay, you're right. How about, "a Nazi in the 60's shouldn't be allowed in a museum because the Nazi's stole a lot of artwork in WWII. "
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I guess if you expand the definition of "charitable purposes" to spreading church influence and building new/expanding church facilities, okay.
What are you talking about Loren? How can you pray to Jesus without this?
So that's what that's for.
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The point is that an individual should not be blamed for the action of other individuals, even if they are in the same organization. Tom Cruise has committed no offense and there is no reasonable evidence that he is planning to.
Ah, I read you as being sincere. My apologies.
Why, was he arrested now?
What will you do?
Knock on wood? :P
Learn what an analogy is.
Again,
Yeah, I know what an analogy is. Something kinky, right?
Anyway, he may believe whatever crazy shit he wants, but that doesn't enable him to walz into some army barracks.
So, you're analogy was a crappy one.
They're well within their rights to deny anyone they like clearance to enter a military site. It's not like they're stopping him from entering the country, or some public area.
Get real. Tom Cruise's bacteria is more of a threat to the security of their military base than his Scientology.
Moreover, "allowing him access to sensitive military areas" is wildly different from "allowing him onto a movie set to film a movie which happens to be on a military base".
He'd still need to get clearance to get onto the base, and things like say, belonging to an organisation that has had, shall we say, poor previous relations with the German government, tend to affect whether you can get cleared. Plus the fact that he normally brings his "scientology tent" or whatever with him, will only set off more alarm bells.
Also, so as to contribute, any government should be allowed to deny anyone access to their facilities. If it was a public place, the argument would be different, but for their own military bases? I'm pretty sure that's allowed.
Would you seriously consider letting a high-ranking member of Hamas onto an American base?
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Indeed. They can do it for pretty much any reason they want to, considering he wasn't allowed access there in the first place.
No other church has such a dedicated program of harassment and organised character assasination as these turds.
I think if they were willing to allow the filming on the base, but the sticking point is Tom Cruise - this is a shitty reason.
A military has power over their bases for certain reasons, none of which involve furthering government vendettas against certain actors for their social affiliations.
I mean, what if they were going to deny the filming of a movie with Jon Stewart purely because the German government of the time was closely allied with the Bush administration and didn't like his critics?
Is that also just fine and cool?
Come on guys, I think they are pretty cool.
Why wouldn't everyone want them in their town?
I wouldn't go so far as to call them a cult, but I don't like how they are trying to set themselves up as a networking society for Hollywood/the movie industry.
Sea Org scares me a bit too.
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Wow, I'm sure every other mainstream religion is like scientology! Their wide popularity certainly doesn't tone down any unseemly social practices that might arise otherwise!
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Are you being serious here?
No one is suggesting that Scientologists should be allowed to go anywhere on earth they please, least of all BECAUSE they are scientologists. The debate here is if the German government is justified in denying Tom Cruise access to a movie set specifically because he is a scientologist. You are WAY off base.
This is the case:
That's, uhm, err....I wouldn't go that far.
I can't believe this hasn't been limed yet.
You are awesome Jay.
And yeah, Germany would've done better for themselves if they hadn't used the word cult here. They get in enough trouble for spying on and bullying the scientologists as it is.