Or we should all stop drinking pop like sensible people so we can be healthier and keep our teeth past our mid-20's.
You know what, you're right. We should also stop playing video games, since they tend to lead to bad exercise habits and procrastination. Guess I won't be seeing you guys at PAX. :P
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This is all very interesting! Until I went to Nicaragua, I'd never really stopped to think about how we use corn syrup in so many places where a rational person would use sugar... but I never realized there was so much political history behind it!
It all seems insane to me. I think I'd rather pay more for soda if I could have it with real sugar... it certainly tasted better, at the least. I'm going to start looking for some real sugar sodas in my area.
at costco you can get Mexican coke that is made with cane sugar Its yummeh.
Well, I'm all game for quitting soda... it's just more difficult to DO than to SAY. This is a subject upon which I have little willpower. I'm in that camp of people who can't stand coffee (both because it's a warm liquid as opposed to a refreshing cold one, and because of the taste), and I can't stand the taste of diet sodas... but I have a difficult time quitting caffeine. Painfully difficult.
So I'm stuck at an impasse, until I get the gusto needed to deal with the three weeks of headaches and caffeine-deprived stupor I'd have to live in to get over the addiction. But with constant projects at work and needs at home, I just don't have time for three weeks of being walking around like a zombie.
In retrospect, I should've quit when life was easier... back in College, or in high school. But back then, I thought that it'd be easier to quit when I moved on to the "real world". For some reason, my young and naive self thought that College was harder/more demanding than real life would be. Heh.
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I used to drink a LOT of soda. Then I became a diabetic. I found that Iced Tea is a great substitute for it.
Or we should all stop drinking pop like sensible people so we can be healthier and keep our teeth past our mid-20's.
You know what, you're right. We should also stop playing video games, since they tend to lead to bad exercise habits and procrastination. Guess I won't be seeing you guys at PAX. :P
Well there's a lot of things we should do, but games at least have arguable value which pop has zero. It's all empty calories and crap pretty much. Of course I said SHOULD and had two cans of pop tonight.
Well, I'm all game for quitting soda... it's just more difficult to DO than to SAY. This is a subject upon which I have little willpower. I'm in that camp of people who can't stand coffee (both because it's a warm liquid as opposed to a refreshing cold one, and because of the taste), and I can't stand the taste of diet sodas... but I have a difficult time quitting caffeine. Painfully difficult.
Yea occasionally I'll stop for a month or so until I want something in specific or get fast food or something. Caffeine is addictive after all. Actually in all reality that's way worse for you then the sugar since it just kills your metabolism. Oh well.
Well there's a lot of things we should do, but games at least have arguable value which pop has zero. It's all empty calories and crap pretty much. Of course I said SHOULD and had two cans of pop tonight.
Actually soda is useful for at least a couple different things.
1. A quick energy boost.
2. To quickly recharge sugar levels.
This brings up a good question I've had on my mind for a while though. Why the hell are soft drinks in America made with high fructose corn syrup instead of sugar? Is there a reason? I remember being taken aback in Nicaragua when I read the ingredients on a 7-Up and it had actual cane sugar. I was psyched, and then confused. Who decided we shouldn't get the real stuff in our drinks?
Up until the mid-1980's, American soft drinks (and other products) were made with cane sugar instead of HFCS. What happened? The American corn lobby (i.e., the people who buy all that corn that's grown in the Midwest) convinced Congress to raise the import tariffs on sugar (which the US mostly imports). As a result, sugar in the US costs about twice as much as it does in the result of the world. As a result, all major soft drink producers in the US (as well as makers of other products) were forced to switch to the cheaper high fructose corn syrup.
In the past couple years people have started to become more aware that things taste different here than they do in the result of the world, and some premium brands (like Jones) are starting to switch back to cane sugar, Costco is importing Mexican coke, etc.
TL; DR: It has nothing to do with the FDA and everything to do with the very powerful corn lobby.
Whoa... that sucks hardcore. Shouldn't the WTO file a complaint for that? I mean, it's effectively subsidizing the corn industry in America over foreign sugar markets. Not that they can do much, I suppose. =(
Its quite prevalent with other types of farms also. Has to do partially with keeping the nostalgia of the "farming family" alive. Some people even refer to it as another form of welfare - only for farmers.
Also, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) has been linked to obesity and diabetes, partially because of how it is broken down by the body and how various systems react to it. Obesity because for some reason, HFCS doesn't tell the body it's "full" the way sugar does - so you eat more. (I think it has to do with insulin production somehow) What's crazy is that that HFCS is in *most* processed foods now, including bread products.
I bought the Mexican Coke at a chocolate shop during PAX last year and tried it out. Couldn't get a good feel for it possibly due to fatigue, but my local Costco started carrying it and after trying it again i've decided to switch. Glass bottles + sugar = more expensive. I think it was 24 bottles for $18, while a 36 can case is $9. But I don't drink a ton of Coke so it's worth it.
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My wife is a health nut which has forced me to become more conscious of what I eat (or rather an unwilling partner in her diabolical scheme to takeover my masticatory schedule...but i digress) I used to drink about a 6 pack of regular coke a day, then I switched to coke zero and tea. Now I'm down to maybe 2 .5 liter bottles a day, changing form regular coke to coke zero, while not a huge nutritional upgrade I did loose a few pounds in the process.
I would stop drinking soda, but I don't know how to quit you! And it's one of my last vices as I move farther and farther away from those college days.
Hmm... I'm going to have to try Coke Zero. I hate the taste of diet sodas, so I figured Zero was just a happy name for it. I suppose, as a couple of you said, iced tea should be good too.
Aye, I'd rather not get diabetes... it's one of those things that I occasionally think about and then try to quickly put away in my mind. I need to wake up and make some better choices before it's too late. I'll see if I can give Coke Zero a try, maybe as a "down-step" from the full-on stuff. If it tastes alright, it could be a healthier switch.
Also, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) has been linked to obesity and diabetes, partially because of how it is broken down by the body and how various systems react to it. Obesity because for some reason, HFCS doesn't tell the body it's "full" the way sugar does - so you eat more. (I think it has to do with insulin production somehow) What's crazy is that that HFCS is in *most* processed foods now, including bread products.
It's sad when our society values profit more than the health of its constituency. It's kind of scary to think that they've put it in bread... what the hell is it doing there? I'll look in some of my foods as I go through today. That seems insane to me.
It does seem like, since that switch to HFCS that was mentioned above, we've been getting higher rates of obesity and diabetes in society. Whether that's the cause of HFCS or just the "consume, consume, consume" culture we have I'm not sure, but it's definitely a source of concern. And I'd rather not get diabetes, and it's about time I start trying to do something to actually stop it from happening.
Type 2 diabetes so far seems to be multi-factorial with two of the more prevalent being Hereditary and Obesity.
Not sure HFCS can be blamed for type 2 diabetes as there are many sources for obesity. Nor is the long term effects of high HFCS intake known. (I volunteer my body for scientific study when I die as my current Mt dew intake is over a liter a day.) But I am not sure substituting ones die for artificial sweeteners is the correct answer. There have been several in the past that have been taken off the market because of adverse effects upon the general population, even if over exaggerate. I am not trying to say that only natural items as they are naturally found is the only way to go as even water taken in large enough quantities can be deadly. (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-242-302--8785-0,00.html) But we seem to have shifted away from moderation and self reliance which continues to plague all of society…
Of course this is so far OT that I shall try to redeem myself by saying their better be bawls at PAX 08 or else…
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The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
I think the moral of the story is that lots of crap is bad for you but tasty like many things. So instead of over indulging maybe we should just have a little now and then and all activate our super powers of moderation and sensibility! The end.
Well this I guess is a good time to point out that I'm trying to give up Coke. And I should point out that it's really tough. I'm just so used to that sweet nectar being my morning pick-me up and late-night snack.
What I decided was that if it wasn't during a meal during the first 2 months, I wouldn't drink it. And starting in March, I'm going to try and cut myself off completely.... we'll see how well that works.
I expect the caffeine to be flushed out of my system just in time for the CCST... where I will promptly hook up the Coke IV into my arm.
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edited February 2008
When you only drink caffeine once a year, it's a lot stronger.
Ya know, I'm down to a can a day at most now which is probably still too much but anywho I ramble and digress into a run on sentence... but ever since that high school period where I would drink a ton of Mountain Dew constantly caffiene just doesn't seem to have any affect of how alert I'm feeling.
Part of why I just stopped drinking coffee for the most part. Most of it's just such pig swill in taste it's not worth it if it doesn't do anything for you.
Ya know, I'm down to a can a day at most now which is probably still too much but anywho I ramble and digress into a run on sentence... but ever since that high school period where I would drink a ton of Mountain Dew constantly caffiene just doesn't seem to have any affect of how alert I'm feeling.
Part of why I just stopped drinking coffee for the most part. Most of it's just such pig swill in taste it's not worth it if it doesn't do anything for you.
Are you kidding? Coffee is like the nectar of the Gods when it's made right. One of my favorite things about going to Seattle every year (and no, not talking about Starbucks).
I said that wrong let me expound. I like the taste of good coffee, empashis on good, and I drink it black. But without giving up your left arm for it most of it is pig swill.
Are you kidding? Coffee is like the nectar of the Gods when it's made right. One of my favorite things about going to Seattle every year (and no, not talking about Starbucks).
I hope you don't say Seattle's Best, either. Where are you getting your awesome java?
And Cherry Bawls is tasty. There is a local LAN center 'round here that sells it (only place in town, in fact). It is just not as good a regular Bawls though.
I don't know if you can call it product placement. Maybe pre-product placement? Since the movie came before the Brawndo. At least, I THINK it did.
It did...
the drink was made afterward. Got its inspiration from the same drink in the movie...
I can't wait until they start pouring it on our crops.
A while back I sent an email to them asking about their video and it's relation to Powerthirst. They actually hired the guys who did Powerthirst. I also asked if they were gonna have any real stores carry Brawndo. They said "soon". They also said I would get a free can in the mail... I'm still waiting on that.
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You know what, you're right. We should also stop playing video games, since they tend to lead to bad exercise habits and procrastination. Guess I won't be seeing you guys at PAX. :P
Know what's interesting? HFCS is many times more damaging to teeth than cane sugar. The tasting better is just an added bonus.
Also: how else am I supposed to get my daily caffeine fix? Coffee is not an option, for it tastes bitter and horrid.
at costco you can get Mexican coke that is made with cane sugar
So I'm stuck at an impasse, until I get the gusto needed to deal with the three weeks of headaches and caffeine-deprived stupor I'd have to live in to get over the addiction. But with constant projects at work and needs at home, I just don't have time for three weeks of being walking around like a zombie.
In retrospect, I should've quit when life was easier... back in College, or in high school. But back then, I thought that it'd be easier to quit when I moved on to the "real world". For some reason, my young and naive self thought that College was harder/more demanding than real life would be. Heh.
Seriously. Soda is part of my quality of life.
Yea occasionally I'll stop for a month or so until I want something in specific or get fast food or something. Caffeine is addictive after all. Actually in all reality that's way worse for you then the sugar since it just kills your metabolism. Oh well.
Actually soda is useful for at least a couple different things.
1. A quick energy boost.
2. To quickly recharge sugar levels.
That's all I can think of right now.
Nintendo, as it happens. I'm a bit strapped for cash this week, but come Friday moneys will be had. And come MONDAY, Bawls will be had!
$2.49 isn't that bad if I'm just getting one in the morning.
This really just makes my day/week, though. I only have to go like 40 feet out of my way to get myself some Bawls, awesome!
Its quite prevalent with other types of farms also. Has to do partially with keeping the nostalgia of the "farming family" alive. Some people even refer to it as another form of welfare - only for farmers.
Also, high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) has been linked to obesity and diabetes, partially because of how it is broken down by the body and how various systems react to it. Obesity because for some reason, HFCS doesn't tell the body it's "full" the way sugar does - so you eat more. (I think it has to do with insulin production somehow) What's crazy is that that HFCS is in *most* processed foods now, including bread products.
I bought the Mexican Coke at a chocolate shop during PAX last year and tried it out. Couldn't get a good feel for it possibly due to fatigue, but my local Costco started carrying it and after trying it again i've decided to switch. Glass bottles + sugar = more expensive. I think it was 24 bottles for $18, while a 36 can case is $9. But I don't drink a ton of Coke so it's worth it.
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I would stop drinking soda, but I don't know how to quit you! And it's one of my last vices as I move farther and farther away from those college days.
Aye, I'd rather not get diabetes... it's one of those things that I occasionally think about and then try to quickly put away in my mind. I need to wake up and make some better choices before it's too late. I'll see if I can give Coke Zero a try, maybe as a "down-step" from the full-on stuff. If it tastes alright, it could be a healthier switch.
It's sad when our society values profit more than the health of its constituency. It's kind of scary to think that they've put it in bread... what the hell is it doing there? I'll look in some of my foods as I go through today. That seems insane to me.
It does seem like, since that switch to HFCS that was mentioned above, we've been getting higher rates of obesity and diabetes in society. Whether that's the cause of HFCS or just the "consume, consume, consume" culture we have I'm not sure, but it's definitely a source of concern. And I'd rather not get diabetes, and it's about time I start trying to do something to actually stop it from happening.
Wish me luck.
Not sure HFCS can be blamed for type 2 diabetes as there are many sources for obesity. Nor is the long term effects of high HFCS intake known. (I volunteer my body for scientific study when I die as my current Mt dew intake is over a liter a day.) But I am not sure substituting ones die for artificial sweeteners is the correct answer. There have been several in the past that have been taken off the market because of adverse effects upon the general population, even if over exaggerate. I am not trying to say that only natural items as they are naturally found is the only way to go as even water taken in large enough quantities can be deadly. (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-242-302--8785-0,00.html) But we seem to have shifted away from moderation and self reliance which continues to plague all of society…
Of course this is so far OT that I shall try to redeem myself by saying their better be bawls at PAX 08 or else…
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What I decided was that if it wasn't during a meal during the first 2 months, I wouldn't drink it. And starting in March, I'm going to try and cut myself off completely.... we'll see how well that works.
I expect the caffeine to be flushed out of my system just in time for the CCST... where I will promptly hook up the Coke IV into my arm.
Really? AWESOME!!!
Part of why I just stopped drinking coffee for the most part. Most of it's just such pig swill in taste it's not worth it if it doesn't do anything for you.
Are you kidding? Coffee is like the nectar of the Gods when it's made right. One of my favorite things about going to Seattle every year (and no, not talking about Starbucks).
Ok, then we are friends. :P
I hope you don't say Seattle's Best, either.
Yes, yes they do.
And Cherry Bawls is tasty. There is a local LAN center 'round here that sells it (only place in town, in fact). It is just not as good a regular Bawls though.
And it's what gamers crave!
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The same guy from powerthirst did the ads for brawndo.
I assure you its very real. I ordered a case on their site. The drinks is... intresting.
Not really offensive but different.
ITS LIKE POURING A MONSTERTRUCK INTO YOUR FACE!
So does Gatorade and that doesn't threaten injury to me.
So does my urine... And that tastes like warm piss.
Yay product placement. I don't care for it in other movies, why should I like it any better in that one?
It did...
the drink was made afterward. Got its inspiration from the same drink in the movie...
I can't wait until they start pouring it on our crops.
A while back I sent an email to them asking about their video and it's relation to Powerthirst. They actually hired the guys who did Powerthirst. I also asked if they were gonna have any real stores carry Brawndo. They said "soon". They also said I would get a free can in the mail... I'm still waiting on that.