I think Rankenphile is the embodiment of everything I hate.
"We lost the forums for a week and have worse errors."
"MAN SHUT THE FUCK UP. GOD. YOU'RE SO RETARDED. IT'S FREE, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. GO DIE. JESUS CHRIST I HATE YOU."
Looks like the Catholic Church would have fired the Virgin Mary if they had been in business back then.
Hey, if God had sent an angel down to the principal's office that said, "Don't fire the bitch, the big man knocked her up." I am sure he would have given it due consideration.
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I think Rankenphile is the embodiment of everything I hate.
"We lost the forums for a week and have worse errors."
"MAN SHUT THE FUCK UP. GOD. YOU'RE SO RETARDED. IT'S FREE, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. GO DIE. JESUS CHRIST I HATE YOU."
Man, I got threatened with a banning because I dared ask Alpha what the latest delay was. People in the Monkey Den are fucking tense.
I updated some things. Let me know if you guys see any Error 500's over night. I still have two tricks up my sleeve, but they get significantly messier than the current setup.
Looks like the Catholic Church would have fired the Virgin Mary if they had been in business back then.
Hey, if God had sent an angel down to the principal's office that said, "Don't fire the bitch, the big man knocked her up." I am sure he would have given it due consideration.
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I'm getting these all over the place -- more today, I think. I get them both from home (where I steal wireless and use an iBook with Safari) and on campus, using a PC and Internet Explorer. I counted that it took me 20 "refresh" clicks to get this page to load, and the "topic review" part of the message post screen is 500-erroring right now. The top-horizontal advertisement on the PA homepage failed to load just now as well.
I'm getting them pretty bad here. They seem to only show up (west coast) in the morning, and disappear by late afternoon and evening, when load has been reduced.
I haven't been keeping as much up on the situation as I could have, but I was wondering about something:
The reason we were having trouble with the 500 club in the beginning was because of a bad bit of RAM in a server. No biggie, except it couldn't be replaced because it was at a server place thousands of miles away from Alpha.
(I'm going to assume a lot during the rest of my post, so if I say something retarded just delete and forgive, please.)
So, PA is renting server action from someplace, and server action get's fucked up. Not because of Alpha being some highschool nerd who doesn't know what he's doing or from leet hackxoroz pwning the forums, no, it's a physical problem with a physical piece of hardware owned by the server renters.
This leads us on a wild madcap chase for a stable forum with Alpha probably doing a lot more work than he should have to to get us back up and running again, and even now we're still half-borked.
Anyway, PA's forum is a big forum. Big enough to probably devour some metric shitloads of bandwith, which probably isn't too terribly cheap. So, what I'm trying to say through the alcohol haze is
Why couldn't the dudes who were renting the server action to PA's forums just put some new fucking ram in and save Alpha all that trouble and us forumers the inconvenience. It seems to me that if PA itself was paying a lot of money to rent hardware, that hardware had better goddamn work.
Okay, that didn't work. FastCGI on Lighttpd is just plain broken at high levels of concurrency. This saddens me, I'm stuck either writing a SCGI handler or doing a bizzare system involving having apache handle ~half the connections.
The correct way to do this is the SCGI way, the fast + easy way to do this is to introduce Apache. The apache way brings with it the possibility of lots of haneous errors and possibilities for new and exciting error 500's (yes, they are as descriptive to me in log files as they are to you on the screen). The SCGI way means I get to develop a SCGI PHP Handler in Python. If there are any python guru's out there, please let me know
The last way to deal with this is to (ugh) poll. Twice a second, connect up to the forums. If error 500 is displayed, restart the webserver process. This should be noted this is not a fix, this just minimizes the visibility of the problem.
Ow, that post made my head hurt. I don't envy you in any way Alpha, you must be a sadist to deal with this crap and not get mad bags of cash for it. It don't mean much but thanks for what you do and drinks on me if you visit Tokyo.
Pretty much what he is trying to say is that it connects to the webserver(as you do), and if it gets a 500 error it restarts it(because something has gone wrong).
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Not to butt in too much, but I strongly approve of this limed option here.
I would rather you poll during the interim while you work on the SCGI solution instead of tossing over to apache. The apache thing will almost assuredly lead to more chaos.
But nonetheless, thanks for the update.
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"We lost the forums for a week and have worse errors."
"MAN SHUT THE FUCK UP. GOD. YOU'RE SO RETARDED. IT'S FREE, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. GO DIE. JESUS CHRIST I HATE YOU."
Wow, on replying to this, I got a 500 - Internal Server Error in the Topic Review window.
One really just doesnt know what is gonna happen anymore.
I have a feeling one of these days I'm gonna click on a thread and end up staring at a freaking gateway to Narnia.
Man, I got threatened with a banning because I dared ask Alpha what the latest delay was. People in the Monkey Den are fucking tense.
Bans for the ban god!
I'll start with the next person dicking around in this thread.
It is almost 1am though so I'm thinking it could be because there is such a small load on the servers.
Either way thanks for all the hard work Alpha!
edit: also, is it possible if you could set my join date to march 13th, 2004? My join date was reset thanks to shennagins awhile ago.
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Ok it is fucking crap now.
EDIT: Now it's about every fifth click, and I have to refresh thirty times.
There may be a humor to it, but I don't think it is irony.
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When I hit submit I get a DNS error...
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I haven't been keeping as much up on the situation as I could have, but I was wondering about something:
The reason we were having trouble with the 500 club in the beginning was because of a bad bit of RAM in a server. No biggie, except it couldn't be replaced because it was at a server place thousands of miles away from Alpha.
(I'm going to assume a lot during the rest of my post, so if I say something retarded just delete and forgive, please.)
So, PA is renting server action from someplace, and server action get's fucked up. Not because of Alpha being some highschool nerd who doesn't know what he's doing or from leet hackxoroz pwning the forums, no, it's a physical problem with a physical piece of hardware owned by the server renters.
This leads us on a wild madcap chase for a stable forum with Alpha probably doing a lot more work than he should have to to get us back up and running again, and even now we're still half-borked.
Anyway, PA's forum is a big forum. Big enough to probably devour some metric shitloads of bandwith, which probably isn't too terribly cheap. So, what I'm trying to say through the alcohol haze is
Why couldn't the dudes who were renting the server action to PA's forums just put some new fucking ram in and save Alpha all that trouble and us forumers the inconvenience. It seems to me that if PA itself was paying a lot of money to rent hardware, that hardware had better goddamn work.
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by go down i mean it gives you a 500 error, and you can refresh it for 5 minutes, and never get to the page.
The correct way to do this is the SCGI way, the fast + easy way to do this is to introduce Apache. The apache way brings with it the possibility of lots of haneous errors and possibilities for new and exciting error 500's (yes, they are as descriptive to me in log files as they are to you on the screen). The SCGI way means I get to develop a SCGI PHP Handler in Python. If there are any python guru's out there, please let me know
The last way to deal with this is to (ugh) poll. Twice a second, connect up to the forums. If error 500 is displayed, restart the webserver process. This should be noted this is not a fix, this just minimizes the visibility of the problem.
Ow, that post made my head hurt. I don't envy you in any way Alpha, you must be a sadist to deal with this crap and not get mad bags of cash for it. It don't mean much but thanks for what you do and drinks on me if you visit Tokyo.
I would rather you poll during the interim while you work on the SCGI solution instead of tossing over to apache. The apache thing will almost assuredly lead to more chaos.
But nonetheless, thanks for the update.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Ditto
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
It's like old times.
That happened to me last night for a while.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.