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ROCK BAND: "I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation"

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  • BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Better not be making the RMA policy strict, I feel guitar #3 beginning to go. They pretty much break every 3 months of regular use as it is.

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  • vegeta_666vegeta_666 CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Better not be making the RMA policy strict, I feel guitar #3 beginning to go. They pretty much break every 3 months of regular use as it is.

    Just did an RMA on a pedal. (Needing a new one anyways.) and... nothing. Did it normally and all went through easily, no proof of purchase... so I dunno.

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  • BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pedal I'm not so worried about because you can always build one thats better, faster, stronger. The guitars on the other hand, I have to try my luck fiddling with the strum.

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  • King NadaKing Nada Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I have rock band hooked up to my Roland td-12 kit now. It's 3 different kinds of awesome, all equally awesome.

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Huzzah! I finally cleared 8 million for my career score. Honestly... I feel dumb, because it became quite easy once I figured out that the 13 bonus tracks COUNT!

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  • midgetspymidgetspy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Kor wrote: »
    Huzzah! I finally cleared 8 million for my career score. Honestly... I feel dumb, because it became quite easy once I figured out that the 13 bonus tracks COUNT!

    Congrats! Now try for 8.5 :0)

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  • mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Indeed. My love (and continued DLC-buying support) of this game depends on working hardware. If I have to keep buying replacement hardware to continue to enjoy the game, I will not be a happy camper.

    I had just been thinking about this business problem -- I love this game and really want this business venture to be profitable, so we get more games of this type -- and I know the retail boxed game will be a failure as a retail product if they have to keep replacing hardware every few months. Maybe they can stay afloat if their DLC sales are profitable enough to carry a retail product that loses money, in a sort of give-away-the-razors-but-sell-the-razorblades strategy. Otherwise I'd think they'll have to keep replacing hardware until they settle upon a hardware design with a much lower defect rate.

    So, we'll have to wait and see if replacement hardware sent in the past 60 days or so has had a lower defect rate than launch hardware. (I'm talking about failure rate in aggregate -- individual horror stories count as 1 each out of 100's of thousands and fill up the thread without providing useful statistical info.)

    (I'm on my original drum set, original mic, guitar #2, and pedal #3.)

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  • midgetspymidgetspy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I know it's still anecdotal, but I know 9 people (including myself) who own Rock Band. They vary from Medium to Expert players, from active gamers to casual owners, on 360 and PS3. To the best of my memory we have collectively RMA'd:

    7 guitars
    12 pedals
    7 drum sets
    1 mic

    This is inflated, though, because many of my friends who had horribly broken equipment would have just continued to use it had I not encouraged them to RMA. Still, though, 9 people is almost enough to start drawing conclusions and I think it strongly points to quality issues with the hardware. Averaging 3 RMAs per person when the game only comes with 3 instruments is pretty staggering. And it'd be even higher if 4 of us hadn't bought metal pedals and modded our guitars so the OD activation actually worked, heh.

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  • SpaceGhostSpaceGhost Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    If anyone wants to make their Rock Band experience a little better, Future Shop is selling rock band drum thrones for only 30 bucks, and theyre adjustable. If you havnt played the game on a real stool, youre missing out. (I bought a tama stool on day 1, but wish I woulda saved the cash and waited for this guy)

    Playing on a stool will easily stop ur leg from getting tired, and its more comfortable too. I even managed to pick up a drum stick bag that clips onto the aluminum tubing of the kit where i store my 4 or 5 sets of sticks. Good times.

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  • ZaylenzZaylenz Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Man, I just played the Disturbed songs on Expert drums. I think my foot is about to fall off from the constant rapid bass kicks. Songs like this really make me wish they had a double bass pedal, as annoying as I know it is to keep hearing people say that. I did manage to beat all 3 songs on the first try at least.

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  • vegeta_666vegeta_666 CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Holy crap Volcano is freaking weird on Expert Drums. I only 3-starred it threw me off so much.

    Also, curse you Disturbed songs! You're awesome but too hard for me to play on Expert. D:

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    glithert wrote: »
    Margaritaville is awesome.
    My buddy also bought Bang a Gong just for kicks. Fuck that song. It felt like playing Guitar Hero 3.

    Yeah it's totally a song I regret buying.

    EDIT: I am not a fan of Jimmy Buffett and my only knowledge of him was Margaritaville that gets played on the radio like...once a month. I also am not too hot on his voice. However, I went ahead and got the pack and I like all three tracks. The guitar tracks are a bit tricky but it's nothing fail-tastic, even on expert. The vocals are not hard at all and are forgiving in that the pie fills up pretty freaking quick.

    The Disturbed pack I will need to get another run through but I got over 95% on sightreads on all of this week's DLC.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I caved and bought the Jimmy Buffett pack............I feel weird about it.


    Guitar can be awkard at times and drums are quirkier than you would expect.

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  • Smug DucklingSmug Duckling Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Bought both packs. Enjoyed the Buffett one more than I thought I would (though it pisses my roommate off to no end). The guitar parts in it were trickier and more fun that expected. I especially liked the quick triple-chords in Margaritaville. Really felt like an awesome rhythm player doing those.

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  • John BradleyJohn Bradley Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Don't know about you guys, but I'm really hoping Harmonix patches the UI at some point. And soon. I've bought around 75% of the DLC, and song-selection is killing me.

    * in solo tour, there's the obvious "here's all the DLC songs, sorted by title, learn to like it" problem

    * in BWT, where at least you get some different sorting criteria, I really need a "sort by download date"-type thing. Every week it gets harder and harder to even find the new songs in the pile, particularly if they're a grab-bag pack (like the PUNK packs) with tracks from different bands. Sure, I can do a band alpha-sort and find the buffet/disturbed packs easily enough, but if I want to play the PUNK 01 pack I just bought, that's a pain in the ass...

    * When selecting tracks in a pick-your-setlist, I really wish it would (when picking the 2nd and subsequent tracks) place me in the list near the last song I picked, not at the top of the list each time. Particularly if I want to play all the ZZ Top tracks (in some sort of idealized future in which such things exist), I'd have to keep scrolling all the way through the list to pick each song.

    And this is with 154 songs. I shudder to think what'll be like in another 6 months, by which point I'd expect to have 250-300 tracks...

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  • JoahWJoahW Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Or even just making it like the RB Store, where you can hit start and another list pops up, where you can pick a specific letter/difficulty/decade/whatever.

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  • Smug DucklingSmug Duckling Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Yeah, no kidding. Why they don't have all the song sorting features in solo tour is beyond me.

    They should also let you scroll UP from the start to get to the end of the list. Some songs are both hard and have band and song titles that put them perpetually at the end of the list.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Yeah, no kidding. Why they don't have all the song sorting features in solo tour is beyond me.
    Because they didn't want to upset the band experience integrity. At least that's what their reply was about. When I mentioned that I was disappointed in the short shrift solo mode received in comparison to BWT, their basic response was that they wanted people to have a more full experience like playing in a band. Why that meant you could have only two people in a four man group instead of allowing a single player to have fun is beyond me.

    But, I'll agree. If they threw in some RB Store style shortcut I'd be happy. I'd also be happy if I could continue to browse the Store while downloading, but that's a different bitch...

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  • polaris314polaris314 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Just played the Disturbed tracks on both drums and guitar. I have to say, I'm surprised they left the double-bass in. Sure those particular parts can be played with one foot, but the stock pedal wasn't really designed for beats that fast. I'm going to need a destroyer pedal at least before I can get through those songs comfortably. :P My advice is to listen to the tracks on their own several times and get the drum parts down in your head first before attempting them, if you can.

    The guitar parts are awesome. And I also realized how rusty I am at the guitar in this game now. Too much drumming!

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  • midgetspymidgetspy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Don't know about you guys, but I'm really hoping Harmonix patches the UI at some point. And soon. I've bought around 75% of the DLC, and song-selection is killing me.

    * in solo tour, there's the obvious "here's all the DLC songs, sorted by title, learn to like it" problem

    * in BWT, where at least you get some different sorting criteria, I really need a "sort by download date"-type thing. Every week it gets harder and harder to even find the new songs in the pile, particularly if they're a grab-bag pack (like the PUNK packs) with tracks from different bands. Sure, I can do a band alpha-sort and find the buffet/disturbed packs easily enough, but if I want to play the PUNK 01 pack I just bought, that's a pain in the ass...

    * When selecting tracks in a pick-your-setlist, I really wish it would (when picking the 2nd and subsequent tracks) place me in the list near the last song I picked, not at the top of the list each time. Particularly if I want to play all the ZZ Top tracks (in some sort of idealized future in which such things exist), I'd have to keep scrolling all the way through the list to pick each song.

    And this is with 154 songs. I shudder to think what'll be like in another 6 months, by which point I'd expect to have 250-300 tracks...

    It could be worse... you could have a PS3 :-(

    (that's as fast as the solo career scrolling goes since the last patch)

    Luckily I only have 130 songs instead of 170... when it gets up to the 200-300 mark it will take multiple minutes for me to get to the bottom of my list. *sigh*

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    If they just make it so that it sorts DLC so it is selectable right off the bat, I'll be happy.

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  • JoahWJoahW Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Also, have a sort of open-ended create-a-setlist feature, beyond the limits of the BWT sets. I want to be able to play the whole album I just bought from start to finish.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    A continuous Random play mode would also be good. Just make it so everyone has to press something to 'ready up' before it jumps to the next song, and perhaps a button to veto the game's choice.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    A continuous Random play mode would also be good. Just make it so everyone has to press something to 'ready up' before it jumps to the next song, and perhaps a button to veto the game's choice.

    You've been playing far too much Halo.

    I'd like to be able to pause between songs, or have to press a button to move to the next one, in a set. When we tackle the endless setlist at some point I know it's going to be a pain to pause it just when the song starts as opposed to before the note track draws itself.

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  • AmaranthAmaranth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I was quite chuffed with my ability to 5* More Than a Feeling on expert vocals. I love that song.

    Now if only I could sing Highway Star. :[

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    Willeth wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    A continuous Random play mode would also be good. Just make it so everyone has to press something to 'ready up' before it jumps to the next song, and perhaps a button to veto the game's choice.

    You've been playing far too much Halo.

    I'd like to be able to pause between songs, or have to press a button to move to the next one, in a set. When we tackle the endless setlist at some point I know it's going to be a pain to pause it just when the song starts as opposed to before the note track draws itself.

    If you're on 360, you can just cheat and hit the guide button. it'll make the game pause immediately.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Well that's a brilliant solution!

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  • Left Wing jAyLeft Wing jAy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I was just really getting into the idea of 'upgrading' to Rock Band, then I discover the next Guitar Hero features additional instruments.

    Fucking hell, I just can't decide now. And I hate waiting. I'm guessing the probability of cross-compatibility with instruments is low.

    Edit: Sorry, didn't really want to mention the 'other' game in the thread, it's purely a factor to me because of wild indecision.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    I was just really getting into the idea of 'upgrading' to Rock Band, then I discover the next Guitar Hero features additional instruments.

    It's a question of taste really. Did you like the ridiculous note charts in GH3? Did you enjoy the sloppy timings and weird chord placements?

    Or did you like the slick, tight charts of GH2 and chords that made sense and fun?

    Buy Rock Band, it is awesome.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The real question is How much do you like Tony Hawk?

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  • killamajigkillamajig Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    polaris314 wrote: »
    Just played the Disturbed tracks on both drums and guitar. I have to say, I'm surprised they left the double-bass in. Sure those particular parts can be played with one foot, but the stock pedal wasn't really designed for beats that fast. I'm going to need a destroyer pedal at least before I can get through those songs comfortably.

    This has been bugging me for a bit now... someone should set up a site where you can log in and detail exactly how and how long after purchase it took you to break your kick pedal, or other instrument. I know my kick died 4 days in on Go with the Flow. I swear the lack of quality on the pedal was a conscious decision or something. I can't see a fair number of songs getting through Q&A without someone wrecking the pedal.

    I was taken in by the deal, but I wish I held off on buying the disturbed pack, because I wouldn't have bothered if I knew about the double bass parts.

    As for the UI/Menu thing, only addition I would like to see is a quickplay setlist, so we can just queue up like 6 songs and go.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I think I still prefer GH, mainly because it focuses on guitar rarrrgrghr. But seeing as GH4 doesn't do that I'm a little miffed.

    Rock Band is just not challenging, really. I still struggle with GH, which I like. But I can jump in on Expert in Rock Band and hit 98% or higher on nigh anything.
    killamajig wrote: »
    Q&A
    Sorry, but it's QA (Quality Assurance), not Q&A (Questions and Answers). People at work even get this wrong. It's infuriating. :P

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Hmmmm. It appears now that in order to RMA any broken piece of hardware for Rock Band, you will need to provide a receipt proving you bought it in the last 60 days. Looks like our free ride is over. :|:|:|

    Link

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Well, it has been about...7 months since Rock Band has been released. You could imagine how many RMAs they processed in that time. I don't feel any animosity towards their strict stance even if another peripheral breaks on me.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Arikado wrote: »
    Well, it has been about...7 months since Rock Band has been released. You could imagine how many RMAs they processed in that time. I don't feel any animosity towards their strict stance even if another peripheral breaks on me.

    Actually, it's been less than a month.

    UK JOKE

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Willeth wrote: »
    I think I still prefer GH, mainly because it focuses on guitar rarrrgrghr. But seeing as GH4 doesn't do that I'm a little miffed.

    Rock Band is just not challenging, really. I still struggle with GH, which I like. But I can jump in on Expert in Rock Band and hit 98% or higher on nigh anything.

    I did this exact same thing... sorta. I played and beat expert on GH2, then a year later, a friend got rock band and invited me over.

    Now, on expert, I was nailing somewhere around 95% and up, but that was because we were just happening to pick easy songs.

    A few weeks after that, said friend needed a "babysitter" for when he was getting his wisdom teeth cutout to make sure he didn't swallow too much blood. So I just played RB over at his house the whole time, since he was just passed out anyway. I went thru the solo career and made it all the way to the last set before I actually failed out of a song. Highway star to be precise.

    Now, I've gold star'd about 20-25 songs in the Career, but those 5 on the last set... man those are still pretty challenging. Hell, I still can't get a 5star on Run to the Hills.

    But what kept be playing is definitely the fun note charts. Man... the first time I played and got the hang of reptilia, it was awesome. Its for sure my favorite song.

    Of course, high score has to be an interest to you. Because it takes little to nothing to 5star a song, but to gold star it? Man... Learn to Fly still mocks me with my single mistake. :(

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  • midgetspymidgetspy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    killamajig wrote: »
    This has been bugging me for a bit now... someone should set up a site where you can log in and detail exactly how and how long after purchase it took you to break your kick pedal, or other instrument. I know my kick died 4 days in on Go with the Flow. I swear the lack of quality on the pedal was a conscious decision or something. I can't see a fair number of songs getting through Q&A without someone wrecking the pedal.

    I asked Moss about that before and he said that to his knowledge nobody broke a pedal at HMX while they were making the game. So either he wasn't aware (possible, he wasn't in QA) or they really just didn't do enough testing on the pedals (didn't have enough expert level players maybe).

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I've yet to have a single problem with my drums, since I've bought them in January.

    However, I'm also not super agressive when I'm playing with them. Its not something I have to conciously have to think about either, I just don't stomp my foot that bad while playing. That said, I do have a couple friends that when they come over, they beat the fuck out of my drums, and sometimes, especially during the drum overdrive portion, I cringe expecting them to break.

    I think some people are just a little overly rough with them.

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