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edited August 2008
Yes music I play music.
During highschool I learned piano, voice, a lot of brass (trumpet, trombone, euphonium, piccolo, flugelhorn) and dabbled in woodwind, especially clarinet and oboe.
I studied Classical performance on Trumpet and music history, at the Queensland Conservatorium after high school but quit to perform full time in a touring funk band. Also I quit because it was a very political, elitist environment and I didn't care so much for it.
When playing in the band I learned Bass, cuban percussion (especially congas but a little timbale as well), and a little drumkit while touring up and down the east coast of Australia four or five times.
When I was done with that I went to design college and now I'm a graphic designer for a living and haven't played any music in about 2 years. Although I recently started learning the ukulele.
During highschool I learned piano, voice, a lot of brass (trumpet, trombone, euphonium, piccolo, flugelhorn) and dabbled in woodwind, especially clarinet and oboe.
I studied Classical performance on Trumpet and music history, at the Queensland Conservatorium after high school but quit to perform full time in a touring funk band. Also I quit because it was a very political, elitist environment and I didn't care so much for it.
Hey that's why I left Oberlin Con.
Though I did recently learn that the year after I left the whole damn comp department fucking exploded.
See, I was always fine with the elitism because I was a few years older than the people who usually start in the department. My voice was maturing and I had the ocd needed to really learn all the information.
And now look at me. Holding in a giant fart because I am at dinner with a bunch of people I don't know and we want to leave a good impression for once dammit
See, I was always fine with the elitism because I was a few years older than the people who usually start in the department. My voice was maturing and I had the ocd needed to really learn all the information.
And now look at me. Holding in a giant fart because I am at dinner with a bunch of people I don't know and we want to leave a good impression for once dammit
DAMMIT
I actually never really minded the elitism when doing performance stuff. My piano teacher was about the pickiest, crazy-elitist people I know when it came to piano, but I absolutely adored working with her. I got so fucking much better with it.
But as a comp major, when one professor is telling me that all that stupid postmodern shit isn't worth my time because it's just lazy writing, and then an hour later another professor is telling me that that dumbass high modernism isn't worth my time because they're stuck in an old model and will never progress it really started grating on me. Especially since there was this idea that there could never be anything tonal without it being ironically so. Like. You know what? Sometimes it's ok for people to be able to listen to your music without years of training.
I remember for the 20th century compositions people got away with the worst shit. One girl took those tubes that kids spin around to make the noise and handed them to each of us, then had us spin them at different speeds to try to make a song. It was impossible for us to do this on the spot so it was just five minutes of twirling
The one where a person gave each person a candy bar, put the wrappers under the piano strings, and then played a prepared piano song was awesome. Prepared piano is delicious
I took singing lessons for about a year, but haven't done any sort of voice training in about 2 years so all my old habits have snuck back in and I sound pretty shitty right now
I want to go back to singing lessons but I can't decide whether to try to find a teacher who knows about rock music, or just go back to my old teacher where I was singing musical theatre type stuff (which, though it didn't really relate to the band, was fun and got me to a pretty good place with my voice)
We had to get rid of our drummer due to dramas, so now we're using Fruity Loops to track the drums and trying to finish up the 8-10 tracks we're writing so we can record them
Once that's done we might try to get some gigs around the place
I remember for the 20th century compositions people got away with the worst shit. One girl took those tubes that kids spin around to make the noise and handed them to each of us, then had us spin them at different speeds to try to make a song. It was impossible for us to do this on the spot so it was just five minutes of twirling
The one where a person gave each person a candy bar, put the wrappers under the piano strings, and then played a prepared piano song was awesome. Prepared piano is delicious
One of my favorite pieces was "Marbles, Stuffed Animals, and Balloons".
I knew something was going down because the week before there were mass emails to the comp students about how there was a high demand for stuffed animals.
It was in three movements, performed by two people.
The first was the performers hurling marbles into a crate.
In the second, the wall used for chamber pieces was raised, and they threw stuffed animals over it.
In the third they brought literally hundreds of balloons out and popped them all.
Awesome piece overall.
Also I did a performance that was very well written, but it was for "Trained and Untrained vocalist", and it was all about really slow movements of quarter tones and half steps, so I had to be sitting there over eight beats sliding a quarter tone while a half step higher there was an untrained singer that the composer knew trying to hold their pitch against it and really just halfway going with what I was doing. Fucking impossible.
Can anybody tell me anything about home recording and how one could get into doing such things on a very small budget (as little money as possible)?
I want to major in audio engineering/sound recording/whatever the hell you want to call it, and when I talked to some people at my top choice of school, they recommended that you record stuff on your own, be it of yourself or other people, for both the experience and to sort of build up a portfolio. Unfortunately, the only experience I have is playing around with Audacity/Acid Music Studio, and even that's limited. I don't know much of anything about any equipment that I should have. If anyone here does know, do tell.
Can anybody tell me anything about home recording and how one could get into doing such things on a very small budget (as little money as possible)?
I want to major in audio engineering/sound recording/whatever the hell you want to call it, and when I talked to some people at my top choice of school, they recommended that you record stuff on your own, be it of yourself or other people, for both the experience and to sort of build up a portfolio. Unfortunately, the only experience I have is playing around with Audacity/Acid Music Studio, and even that's limited. I don't know much of anything about any equipment that I should have. If anyone here does know, do tell.
Protools Academic with an M-Audio MobilePre input, and a Perception 200 mic will run you about $500, it's what I use, along with Finale. It's not quite everything you'll need, but you will have a virtual synth rack, audio editing, a really impressive microphone, and a full suite of awesome audio programs.
I remember for the 20th century compositions people got away with the worst shit. One girl took those tubes that kids spin around to make the noise and handed them to each of us, then had us spin them at different speeds to try to make a song. It was impossible for us to do this on the spot so it was just five minutes of twirling
The one where a person gave each person a candy bar, put the wrappers under the piano strings, and then played a prepared piano song was awesome. Prepared piano is delicious
I walked out of a history lecture on John Cage then yelled at the professor!
I used to play chiptune, though I haven't made anything as of late. I lost interest in it out of lack of inspiration, and the fact that my computer is no longer in the same room equipment and I'm much too lazy to move it again.
Can anybody tell me anything about home recording and how one could get into doing such things on a very small budget (as little money as possible)?
I want to major in audio engineering/sound recording/whatever the hell you want to call it, and when I talked to some people at my top choice of school, they recommended that you record stuff on your own, be it of yourself or other people, for both the experience and to sort of build up a portfolio. Unfortunately, the only experience I have is playing around with Audacity/Acid Music Studio, and even that's limited. I don't know much of anything about any equipment that I should have. If anyone here does know, do tell.
Protools Academic with an M-Audio MobilePre input, and a Perception 200 mic will run you about $500, it's what I use, along with Finale. It's not quite everything you'll need, but you will have a virtual synth rack, audio editing, a really impressive microphone, and a full suite of awesome audio programs.
I have $350.
I'll at least replace the "really impressive" in "really impressive microphone" with "pretty okay."
Aside from that, looks good - though very intimidating, due to my complete ignorance of all things related to that which somehow happens to be an interest of mine.
When you're tapping, you are going to kind of pluck the string with the tapping finger instead of just pressing down and releasing. You press to sound that note and then kind of push your finger away from you to sound the note when you release. Similar thing with the left hand fingers. When you release you just pluck the string as you release.
That is what gave me the most trouble and that may not be a very good explanation.
But I do agree with Tube that tapping and sweep picking are generally lame.
Unless you are doing some really cool two hand tapping effects and not just shredding cause that can be very boring.
Also saxophone is great. Everyone thinks that the sax is just jazz. Really, the saxophone can produce a wider range of tones than pretty much any other wind instrument. It can range from a bright, gruff jazz snarl to a warm round classical tone that can sound halfway between an oboe and a clarinet. And it's not difficult to learn either. However, the advanced techniques seem to often be much more difficult than on other instruments. Altissimo register notes (very very high) take a long time to learn and master while many high school clarinetists regularly play in their altissimo register without even realizing it.
Sweep picking, when used in moderation and in the right time and place, is pretty nice sounding.
But most of those guys become robots.
What I'm trying to say is, nobody should go overboard with those techniques. It just sounds really awful.
It can also be used hilariously in the middle of jazz swing feels.
As for earlier comments on tapping, it is a viable option for playing passages that require very rapid wide intervals, if you wish to avoid moving across strings (and there are a variety of reasons why you may choose to do this, not the least of which is, it's fucking hard to do at really fast speeds).
Also, hey, shameless self promotion!
http://www.facemeltingprotocol.com http://www.myspace.com/facemeltingprotocol
Jazz fusion in the vein of Tribal Tech and The Code. We've been playing covers for the most part up until recently, but a few originals are starting to roll out. A demo is on pace to be finished and pressed by September. We're looking at moving beyond the club scene and into some jazz festivals starting next year.
Well I play guitar because I need something to do other than computers and video-games. It's a plus that it takes so much dedication to get anywhere with it without sounding like the next guy who covers Maiden songs and considers himself an artist.
And here's a cool bass video for interested parties.
Can anybody tell me anything about home recording and how one could get into doing such things on a very small budget (as little money as possible)?
I want to major in audio engineering/sound recording/whatever the hell you want to call it, and when I talked to some people at my top choice of school, they recommended that you record stuff on your own, be it of yourself or other people, for both the experience and to sort of build up a portfolio. Unfortunately, the only experience I have is playing around with Audacity/Acid Music Studio, and even that's limited. I don't know much of anything about any equipment that I should have. If anyone here does know, do tell.
Protools Academic with an M-Audio MobilePre input, and a Perception 200 mic will run you about $500, it's what I use, along with Finale. It's not quite everything you'll need, but you will have a virtual synth rack, audio editing, a really impressive microphone, and a full suite of awesome audio programs.
I have $350.
I'll at least replace the "really impressive" in "really impressive microphone" with "pretty okay."
Aside from that, looks good - though very intimidating, due to my complete ignorance of all things related to that which somehow happens to be an interest of mine.
Well the problem you run into there is that the Perception-200 is pretty much the cheapest quality mic you'll find. Basically I got mine by going to the sound guys in guitar center and saying "Hey, I need a condenser mic, I'm not looking for the expensive ones" and they cut me off there before saying anything else by telling me to get a Perception-200.
Also I just found out that the Pro tools academic pack doesn't exist anymore anyways M-powered is the one I'm upgrading to, but that's $300 on its own.
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JC of DII think we're fucked up.I know I am.Registered Userregular
edited August 2008
I play guitar and do some terrible singing if the occasion calls for it. I think I'd probably work decent as a backup vocalist since I have a fair amount of range and can certainly sing in tune, but my voice just doesn't seem to fit with what I would like as lead vocals.
Given that I don't have a band or anything though right now it's really kind of moot. Lately I've only played some charity event gigs for my hometown that have gone over less than stellar.
Kinda looking to get back into a band but my creativity's just been terrible for the past year or so, which keeps me from being too ambitious about looking. Might be moving soon if things work out so I'd have a whole new scene to consider too. Probably with genres other than just the stoner-folk that this town's got 24/7.
Also Cap: I'm really digging that Masters, Mates and Pilots band. Battleship is a killer track.
I am lead vocals for Stoned Death Gypsies, which is the band that me and my friends formed. I scream growl and all the usual shit you would hear in a hardcore/death metal/ black metal band.
Yeah we have three sousaphones in our marching band this year. Thank god, we haven't had anything resembling a low brass section in two years. Our band is only about 60 people including 19 color guard.
In addition, my section, saxes, is the best section. Hurray 8-)
Yeah we have three sousaphones in our marching band this year. Thank god, we haven't had anything resembling a low brass section in two years. Our band is only about 60 people including 19 color guard.
In addition, my section, saxes, is the best section. Hurray 8-)
We have eight tubas
Suck on that!
Though to put that in perspective, there's 200+ people in band. Most of them play flute, clarinet, or trumpet. Our percussion section is also quite large.
Yeah we have three sousaphones in our marching band this year. Thank god, we haven't had anything resembling a low brass section in two years. Our band is only about 60 people including 19 color guard.
In addition, my section, saxes, is the best section. Hurray 8-)
We have eight tubas
Suck on that!
Though to put that in perspective, there's 200+ people in band. Most of them play flute, clarinet, or trumpet. Our percussion section is also quite large.
My High School Marching band plays a piece I wrote for homecoming. This year is now the first year of no one in the band knowing who I am beyond the piece.
Yeah we have three sousaphones in our marching band this year. Thank god, we haven't had anything resembling a low brass section in two years. Our band is only about 60 people including 19 color guard.
In addition, my section, saxes, is the best section. Hurray 8-)
We have eight tubas
Suck on that!
Though to put that in perspective, there's 200+ people in band. Most of them play flute, clarinet, or trumpet. Our percussion section is also quite large.
I envy schools with administration that actually gives a damn about their music program. If they did we might actually have some decent tubas. In fact, we'd have 3-4 convertible tubas for use in concert band as well and they would always be in great condition because we would be able to afford repairing them. Heck, one school the next county over has a bass sax. I wish we had one of those.
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TonkkaSome one in the club tonightHas stolen my ideas.Registered Userregular
edited August 2008
I guess this is where I get to update ya'll about my band. We're constantly writing new (better) material and our last show was pretty awesome. We finally finished our EP and I'll hopefully have some copies available soon.
So here's some footage from our last show, we're the third band, about halfway through the video.
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During highschool I learned piano, voice, a lot of brass (trumpet, trombone, euphonium, piccolo, flugelhorn) and dabbled in woodwind, especially clarinet and oboe.
I studied Classical performance on Trumpet and music history, at the Queensland Conservatorium after high school but quit to perform full time in a touring funk band. Also I quit because it was a very political, elitist environment and I didn't care so much for it.
When playing in the band I learned Bass, cuban percussion (especially congas but a little timbale as well), and a little drumkit while touring up and down the east coast of Australia four or five times.
When I was done with that I went to design college and now I'm a graphic designer for a living and haven't played any music in about 2 years. Although I recently started learning the ukulele.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Hey that's why I left Oberlin Con.
Though I did recently learn that the year after I left the whole damn comp department fucking exploded.
The elitism.
Not the funk band.
And now look at me. Holding in a giant fart because I am at dinner with a bunch of people I don't know and we want to leave a good impression for once dammit
DAMMIT
I actually never really minded the elitism when doing performance stuff. My piano teacher was about the pickiest, crazy-elitist people I know when it came to piano, but I absolutely adored working with her. I got so fucking much better with it.
But as a comp major, when one professor is telling me that all that stupid postmodern shit isn't worth my time because it's just lazy writing, and then an hour later another professor is telling me that that dumbass high modernism isn't worth my time because they're stuck in an old model and will never progress it really started grating on me. Especially since there was this idea that there could never be anything tonal without it being ironically so. Like. You know what? Sometimes it's ok for people to be able to listen to your music without years of training.
The one where a person gave each person a candy bar, put the wrappers under the piano strings, and then played a prepared piano song was awesome. Prepared piano is delicious
We played one gig of 6 songs at our ex-drummer's brother's birthday party, which went OK: http://kurodust.net/music/live-at-the-starks-august-2007/
I took singing lessons for about a year, but haven't done any sort of voice training in about 2 years so all my old habits have snuck back in and I sound pretty shitty right now
I want to go back to singing lessons but I can't decide whether to try to find a teacher who knows about rock music, or just go back to my old teacher where I was singing musical theatre type stuff (which, though it didn't really relate to the band, was fun and got me to a pretty good place with my voice)
We had to get rid of our drummer due to dramas, so now we're using Fruity Loops to track the drums and trying to finish up the 8-10 tracks we're writing so we can record them
Once that's done we might try to get some gigs around the place
One of my favorite pieces was "Marbles, Stuffed Animals, and Balloons".
I knew something was going down because the week before there were mass emails to the comp students about how there was a high demand for stuffed animals.
It was in three movements, performed by two people.
The first was the performers hurling marbles into a crate.
In the second, the wall used for chamber pieces was raised, and they threw stuffed animals over it.
In the third they brought literally hundreds of balloons out and popped them all.
Awesome piece overall.
Also I did a performance that was very well written, but it was for "Trained and Untrained vocalist", and it was all about really slow movements of quarter tones and half steps, so I had to be sitting there over eight beats sliding a quarter tone while a half step higher there was an untrained singer that the composer knew trying to hold their pitch against it and really just halfway going with what I was doing. Fucking impossible.
tapping, for one thing
I want to major in audio engineering/sound recording/whatever the hell you want to call it, and when I talked to some people at my top choice of school, they recommended that you record stuff on your own, be it of yourself or other people, for both the experience and to sort of build up a portfolio. Unfortunately, the only experience I have is playing around with Audacity/Acid Music Studio, and even that's limited. I don't know much of anything about any equipment that I should have. If anyone here does know, do tell.
Protools Academic with an M-Audio MobilePre input, and a Perception 200 mic will run you about $500, it's what I use, along with Finale. It's not quite everything you'll need, but you will have a virtual synth rack, audio editing, a really impressive microphone, and a full suite of awesome audio programs.
Yeaaaaah
I walked out of a history lecture on John Cage then yelled at the professor!
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Do you also consider sweep-picking cheating
http://www.myspace.com/lordmachino
And if anyone has any questions regarding getting started with chiptune I'd be more than happy to help.
I consider it faggotry
Thats probably fair.
Im' more on the Gilmour and Gilbert end of things
I have $350.
I'll at least replace the "really impressive" in "really impressive microphone" with "pretty okay."
Aside from that, looks good - though very intimidating, due to my complete ignorance of all things related to that which somehow happens to be an interest of mine.
Also this. I get back to tuba playing on Monday.
That is what gave me the most trouble and that may not be a very good explanation.
But I do agree with Tube that tapping and sweep picking are generally lame.
Unless you are doing some really cool two hand tapping effects and not just shredding cause that can be very boring.
Also saxophone is great. Everyone thinks that the sax is just jazz. Really, the saxophone can produce a wider range of tones than pretty much any other wind instrument. It can range from a bright, gruff jazz snarl to a warm round classical tone that can sound halfway between an oboe and a clarinet. And it's not difficult to learn either. However, the advanced techniques seem to often be much more difficult than on other instruments. Altissimo register notes (very very high) take a long time to learn and master while many high school clarinetists regularly play in their altissimo register without even realizing it.
see look
we have like three songs but no lyrics to any of them so our band's myspace page is pretty boring
god shank is a little twat i've been trying to post this for like 10 minutes
But most of those guys become robots.
What I'm trying to say is, nobody should go overboard with those techniques. It just sounds really awful.
It can also be used hilariously in the middle of jazz swing feels.
As for earlier comments on tapping, it is a viable option for playing passages that require very rapid wide intervals, if you wish to avoid moving across strings (and there are a variety of reasons why you may choose to do this, not the least of which is, it's fucking hard to do at really fast speeds).
Also, hey, shameless self promotion!
http://www.facemeltingprotocol.com
http://www.myspace.com/facemeltingprotocol
Jazz fusion in the vein of Tribal Tech and The Code. We've been playing covers for the most part up until recently, but a few originals are starting to roll out. A demo is on pace to be finished and pressed by September. We're looking at moving beyond the club scene and into some jazz festivals starting next year.
And here's a cool bass video for interested parties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7BKCaQIA4A
Well the problem you run into there is that the Perception-200 is pretty much the cheapest quality mic you'll find. Basically I got mine by going to the sound guys in guitar center and saying "Hey, I need a condenser mic, I'm not looking for the expensive ones" and they cut me off there before saying anything else by telling me to get a Perception-200.
Also I just found out that the Pro tools academic pack doesn't exist anymore anyways
Given that I don't have a band or anything though right now it's really kind of moot. Lately I've only played some charity event gigs for my hometown that have gone over less than stellar.
Kinda looking to get back into a band but my creativity's just been terrible for the past year or so, which keeps me from being too ambitious about looking. Might be moving soon if things work out so I'd have a whole new scene to consider too. Probably with genres other than just the stoner-folk that this town's got 24/7.
Also Cap: I'm really digging that Masters, Mates and Pilots band. Battleship is a killer track.
In addition, my section, saxes, is the best section. Hurray 8-)
Fucking hell.
Still though, I'm pretty woefully not good enough to be performing yet.
Oh well, should be fun, and for the performances I'm going to drop by my parents house and steal my dads Gibson SG.
We have eight tubas
Suck on that!
Though to put that in perspective, there's 200+ people in band. Most of them play flute, clarinet, or trumpet. Our percussion section is also quite large.
My High School Marching band plays a piece I wrote for homecoming. This year is now the first year of no one in the band knowing who I am beyond the piece.
So here's some footage from our last show, we're the third band, about halfway through the video.
But all the bands were pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TduszPMvBz8